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A good review from your side this all is happening by just few peoples and groups because this is geopolitics, and we all know who is doing this all and who is taking benefit with this all situation but right now every one is going with his own benefit so with this all most chances in near future we are not going to have any improvement just in cricketing relationships others are going well and most chances soon we will have trade as well which was stopped by Imran Khan regime, but recently I have few reports many things are going to be on talk with back door talks are also in progress but keep one thing in mind cricket will be never on talk and having any positive development between these two countries.

https://www.google.com/amp/s/www.bbc.com/news/world-asia-64451936.amp

https://www.google.com/amp/s/www.businesstoday.in/amp/latest/trends/story/babar-azam-shahid-afridi-safely-moved-after-blast-near-stadium-before-psl-2023-exhibition-match-369061-2023-02-05

2nd link states that Azam and Afridi escaped successfully which implies that Pakistan's players themselves aren't safe. How on earth do you fools expect anyone to believe that Indian players will be 100% safe?

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I don't find it credible that the Indian team will tour Pakistan. Firstly, the political conflict between these two countries is very old. And there is no good relationship between the governments of the two countries. So the Indian government will not want the Indian cricket team to visit Pakistan. Also the overall condition of Pakistan is not good now. Their economic condition is very bad now. Moreover, there are still various militant groups in the country. A few days ago there was a suicide bomb attack on a mosque. It is natural that no country would want to visit Pakistan in such a situation.

Even if peaceful scenario prevails in the country, this is going to be a hard decision for India to think of a match in Pakistan. Right now few teams have toured Pakistan and are safe. Once something happens it is unable to revert and the same could turn to be a reason for the fight to continue. The people are friendly and safe, but there are groups that wants Pakistan and India to be enemies.

Who say bombing happens in Pakistan on regular basis?
And England, Australia,  Newzealand toured Pakistan last year and they went back safe and alive from Pakistan. 
All of you are mixing up two different things topics , cricketing Asia Cup rights is a different topic and India rejecting to come should be main focus.

Even I have feeling here talk is completely waste of time, and we have nothing positive about this all because final decisions are coming from the relative authorities and boards but still I have feeling PCB is saying they will not go for the World Cup is not right decision because with these things can go worst for them, and they can lose funds and many more things even I have feeling India is trying hard for destroy Pakistani cricket with their power which is not possible but still right now if they have some sense they have to visit India for the world cup and also try to move Asia Cup in any other country which could be beneficial for them on and off the field but still last decision is coming from PCB and Government of Pakistan in March so lets wait and watch how things will be ended for this all.

You might be living among terrorists or I guess you are now least bothered with what is happening near you. We Indians are living in peace and yes we do fear for our lives. After Modi became the PM of our country we have not seen any terrorist activities like what used to happen when Congress was in power. Our country is more focused on the growth & upliftment of every citizen economically and to an extent, our PM has been able to do it.

Indian cricket has thrived without a single bilateral series with Pakistan but unfortunately, Pakistan has not, and nor has the country.  BCCI does not need revenue from a single match, ODIWC, and Asia Cup. BCCI has IPL and now it has WIPL.

Except for the Punjab province of Pakistan, all other provinces are struggling and people are dying for food. When Pakistan cannot provide food security to its own citizens how can it provide life security to Indian players? Think about it! Rather thinking about India or BCCI.

Lame fears? How dumb are you shill? Would you be willing to travel to Pakistan where bombings happen on a regular basis putting your life at risk? I don't think you would which is why you need to improve your brainpower.

Cricketers are humans at the end of the day which is why their safety matters the most to them just like any other human being.

This is really tough for any country to leave rights of hosting any event,  just because of their lame fears how can ICC change the venue of Asia Cup. 
If all of a sudden something happened in Pakistan right before this meeting this is not their fault . These things can happen  in any country .

PCB's all argument is based on bilateral (MOU), not Asia Cup, hence no one counts it even within the PCB (in fact BCCI wanted to add this to strengthen their case but PCB rejected it). You can check the official MOU reports which were sent by PCB to BCCI after Mumbai terrorist attack, it got rejected by the latter (during Congress rule), then PCB challenged this in ICC’s Dispute Resolution Committee in 2015 (during BJP rule), in context of 2012-13 series and they lost the case and ended up paying million dollars to BCCI because BCCI never signed the MOU. The Mumbai attack and this rejected MOU draft created this cycle and like it or not but it'll go on for another decade or so, doesn't matter who is sitting in New Delhi, be it Congress or BJP.

PS : I should've mentioned this MOU case in my previous post so my mistake. I thought it was a well known incident.

Covered 2008 part with MOU related stuff. Also covered the security/gov topic in my previous post.

I am counting on PCB to boycott the WC. I am all in for Drama and meltdown, more powers to PCB and their cheerleaders.

Bhai saab India was in Pakistan in 2008 for Asia Cup and its Asia cup once again for which India is not coming not a bilateral series.
I have stats of that here https://www.espncricinfo.com/series/asia-cup-2008-298014/india-vs-sri-lanka-final-335358/full-scorecard



I remind you again that India is not touring Pakistan since 2008. They refused to play in Pakistan well before this latest blast in Peshawar and the excuse is same that they don't wanna go to Pakistan due to government orders.
I saw in news today that PCB has also announced not to participate in ODI world cup, which in my opinion is a good decision. Since no financial gain is superior to National Pride and dignify.

If they want participate in ODI cricket, they will probably also participate in the Asia Cup. Money is not the main point in this issue, they have to do this for their reputation. Moreover, although UAE is not their own venue, they have been conducting cricket matches at that venue for a long time. They can accept that venue. However, there is still no news about the final decision. I think it will be a big disaster for them financially if they don't participate in World Cup cricket.

BCCl always show that they are independent cricket board but it's totally wrong , they took every decision on BJP leader order, and that the reason of BCCI declineing indian visit to Pakistan. But Anyway if India took venue from Pakistan and shit it to UAE, then Pakistan will also demand ICC to shit world cup venue from India to UAE otherwise Pakistan will not participate in world cup as a result India will lose all handsome revenue which will generate from Pakistan and India match.

Even world championship team england, most world cup winner team Australia, the horror dream of India newZealand can visit Pakistan then why not india, why just indian player are in danger in Pakistan, I think Pakistan should solve Thier security problem just like they solve the newZealand security concerns lol 😂😂

Ultimately it will be hosted in UAE. Most probably Pakistan would boycott the Asia cup. I do not think they can afford to boycott ODIWC otherwise they will lose the ICC money. PCB cannot afford to lose that amount considering the present economic condition of Pakistan.
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In the history of the world, the terrorist activities that happened in Pakistan cricket did not happen in any other country. Moreover ‍terrorist attacks are often happen in Pakistan. Law enforcement in the country is not very good. Moreover, international cricket was banned in their country for a long time and no country agreed to play there even if they got permission. However, in recent times, a few countries have started playing there again. If a country is still not willing to play in Pakistan due to security reason there is nothing to do. But I have no idea what are the negative impacts of playing in Pakistan or why India want to change the venue of the Asia Cup.

IMO It's pretty unproductive to reply without any facts. I know in general fair amount of pakbros are a bit ignorant when it comes to history but they can at least try to be accurate or honest when it comes to cricket.

The last time Indian team toured there was back in 2005-06, not 2008. This brings us to the second part, yeah I agree BJP invented the time machine and they went back to the timeline when Congress was in power and stopped Indian team to visit Pakistan, evil BJP. #MudiSuldRezine

Sethi and PCB's officials should have some self-respect. They again repeated the same question in ACC meeting which was scheduled in Bahrain and BCCI said No again. I would say Props to Pakistan if they opt to boycott the upcoming WC.

Terrorists popping up here n there and blowing the majids and innocent police officers but sure security of players is not an issue at all. Security is the biggest issue for Indian team, that's why everyone from the PCB keeps offering Presidential security to every visiting team. Think about repercussions if something goes wrong, even if there is a 1% chance. Pakistan is in mess on the Western front already and it takes one security lapse to make matter worse and our Borders will become red hot.

Indians are focused on the economy and other stuff. Virtually can't afford to have another useless distraction on the border just because some privileged people want to watch cricket between India and Pakistan.

First of all, I do not understand why India is refusing to go to Pakistan for Asia Cup. I suppose we are talking about Asia Cup. It was decided a long time ago. And just because India is showing so much problems does not mean that Asia Cup will have to be taken place in another nation.

But at the same time, I also understand the concerns of India. They are also in the right to not let the players go somewhere where it can become a big issue of life and death. After all, I am going to say that the politics and political situation in Pakistan is not stable at all.

Even your statement is partially correct but still this is not all about best and having the best players and team right now BCCI and Indian authorities are having strong power in cricket, and they are using this all for their own sack by right way without having any soft corner for the arch rival Pakistan which is surely going down or already defaulted, but things are going not in their favour just because of bad management so with this all now if Pakistan wants to survive in cricket then surely they need to work on few basics and not doing any wrong decision which give them more headache for the future specially now better just change the venue for the Asia Cricket Cup and allow their players for visiting India to play world cup which is also good and important for them.

Agree right now, PCB is having no luxury to stand against BCCI so better they need to understand this all situation and just go ahead with this Asia Cup in the UAE or any other neutral place with secondly they also need to travel to India for the ODI world cup 2023 which is beneficial for them and their finances.

Now or in near future I have feeling no one can stand against pig-4 because they have strong combination and better control, but things can change even takes time but right now best is gone ahead with this all and try to settle their inner issues which are also complicated and standing against these are never been profitable for them with no other board is going to give them any support.

You are just a piece of shit and try to ruin this thread in negative way, so please stay in limits and try to grow up because it's a forum for having some positive talk not shit hopefully you will understand and try to post things related to cricket otherwise may be many others also follow like you, and we have big mess up which is never been ideal for you and others chill.