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New Zealand cricket team batted in the first innings in the 2nd ODI match. The New Zealand cricket team has been a batting disaster since the beginning of the game. New Zealand cricket team is very weak after losing five wickets in the beginning of the game. The game of 14 overs is already over. New Zealand cricket team's run rate score (2.41) is in low position. On the other hand, the bowling of the Indian cricket team's bowlers is spectacular. India is performing well in bowling
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After the loss in the first match, I thought New Zealand would make a comeback in the second ODI. But my assumption was wrong. India won the toss and decided to bowl. And their decision was completely correct. New Zealand suffered a nasty batting disaster. Their collection was only 15 runs in 10.3 overs. And they lost 5 wickets. I don't imagine they will face such a bad batting disaster. They lost the first 5 batsmen of the top order. They collected only 33 runs in 15 overs. It looks like they will lose all the wickets within 100 runs.
Indian batsmen are in very good form now. A win against India now seems impossible given the low run target. India will win today's match very easily and win the series.
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Third ODI is going on in Sydney between women team of Pakistan and Australia. Australians have scored 336/9 in 50 overs. There is 160 runs partnership between Beth and Meg otherwise there is no noticeable performance from any Australia bats women. It will be very tough to chase such a huge target and that too against Australia.
Below are the results of multiple ODI series between Pakistan Women and Australia Women which on analysis shows that out of 16 matches Australia won 16 and Pakistan failed to win any match.  From this it is easy to understand that it will be very difficult for Pakistan to win against Australia no matter where the game is played at the Australian venue or any other venue.  In the last match, Australia women defeated Pakistan women by a huge margin of 101 runs.



Ss from: https://stats.espncricinfo.com/ci/engine/records/team/match_results.html?class=9&id=289&id=3022&type=headtohead
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Just 2 hours and 45 minutes, the second ODI match between India and New Zealand will begin. In the first match, India cricket team defeated New Zealand by 12 runs. India's young cricketer Shubman Gill was selected as Man of the Match in that match. He opened with Rohit Sharma and managed to score 208 runs off 139 balls.


Today India and Newzealand ODI match is going to start shortly.  Newzealand have lost by a few runs in the past but will enter the field with some experience in the current position.  Meanwhile, India's player is strong enough to attack a team like Newzealand.  Last match was lost by just runs but Newzealand can win today's match if they are careful about the wicket.  Newzealand team could not stand in front of India in the past.  But in today's match, Newzealand will have to be careful of the wicket side and if they survive till the last, they will definitely have a chance to win today.
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In the first ODI, India were able to give a good target of 349 runs because Gill got his first double century otherwise the target could have been different for the Kiwis. Both team have unreliable middle order. In today's match this middle order would be tested. If Bracewell hadn't played well in the first ODI then the Kiwis would have lost by a huge margin. It is the first ever ODI being played in Raipur so not many information about the pitch can be found. That means the team that wins the toss would have an upper edge. 
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Just 2 hours and 45 minutes, the second ODI match between India and New Zealand will begin. In the first match, India cricket team defeated New Zealand by 12 runs. India's young cricketer Shubman Gill was selected as Man of the Match in that match. He opened with Rohit Sharma and managed to score 208 runs off 139 balls. His innings of 208 runs included a total of nine sixes and 19 boundaries. All cricket lovers will be expecting him to pick up where he left off that day. Both the teams may go into the field with unchanged squads today. Of course the New Zealand team will want to win this match today to level the series at 1-1 Hopefully today's match will be a very fighting match
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If you see scoreboard of Indian team in 2st ODI just Shubman Gill scored double century rest of the players were not good rohit and Suryakumar scored in 30's that's it .
So should we say Indian batting was not good .
It is true that India were over-dependent on Gill in that match, but you are forgetting the fact that he is a top order batsman due to which the pressure on other batsmen was low which is why they didn't really need to contribute much.

Same could be said about India's innings tho. For India, the second and third highest scores were 34 and 31 respectively. Kiwis saw 57 and 40 scorelines for the same.

Both teams had a fair chance of winning the match because the pitch was easy to bat on but a majority of batters from both teams didn't apply themselves properly and lost the wickets.  
It isn't a fair comparison. New Zealand lost 6 wickets for 130 something before Bracewell almost saved them while the Indian team were comfortable with low scores thanks to Gill who was hammering the bowlers on the other end.

New Zealand need to improve in all areas asap if they wish to win at least one match in this series.
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Third ODI is going on in Sydney between women team of Pakistan and Australia. Australians have scored 336/9 in 50 overs. There is 160 runs partnership between Beth and Meg otherwise there is no noticeable performance from any Australia bats women. It will be very tough to chase such a huge target and that too against Australia.
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Same could be said about India's innings tho. For India, the second and third highest scores were 34 and 31 respectively. Kiwis saw 57 and 40 scorelines for the same.

Both teams had a fair chance of winning the match because the pitch was easy to bat on but a majority of batters from both teams didn't apply themselves properly and lost the wickets. 

New Zealand did the same mistake that India do all the time. They are playing in unfamiliar conditions and it would have been better if they had prepared well by playing a few warmup matches against some of the domestic teams in India. But nowadays we hardly ever see the national teams doing this, because the calendar is jam packed. The New Zealand team arrived in Hyderabad on 15th January and directly had their first ODI match against India on 18th January. They hardly got two full days to acclimatize with the local conditions.
The majority of New Zealand players are quite familiar with the Indian conditions, thanks to IPL.

Warmup matches are not a thing before any White ball cricket, unless its a WC so it's not a valid excuse. IMO players adjust in white ball very quickly despite playing in alien conditions because it's a batter's format.
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Same could be said about India's innings tho. For India, the second and third highest scores were 34 and 31 respectively. Kiwis saw 57 and 40 scorelines for the same.

Both teams had a fair chance of winning the match because the pitch was easy to bat on but a majority of batters from both teams didn't apply themselves properly and lost the wickets. 

New Zealand did the same mistake that India do all the time. They are playing in unfamiliar conditions and it would have been better if they had prepared well by playing a few warmup matches against some of the domestic teams in India. But nowadays we hardly ever see the national teams doing this, because the calendar is jam packed. The New Zealand team arrived in Hyderabad on 15th January and directly had their first ODI match against India on 18th January. They hardly got two full days to acclimatize with the local conditions.
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I think Newzealand will win tomorrow as they have played phenomenal innings in last ODI,  their batting was soo good and on point just bowling side needs to be focused on . Newzealand needs to restrict runs on Indian side to win the match .
Batting on point? Lol. If it wasn't for Bracewell and Santner, they would have gotten defeated by 100+ runs. Their batting and bowling departments need serious improvements if they want to defeat India.
Same could be said about India's innings tho. For India, the second and third highest scores were 34 and 31 respectively. Kiwis saw 57 and 40 scorelines for the same.

Both teams had a fair chance of winning the match because the pitch was easy to bat on but a majority of batters from both teams didn't apply themselves properly and lost the wickets. 
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The second ODI will take place tomorrow, at the Shaheed Veer Narayan Singh International Stadium in Raipur. I don't know much about this venue, but I guess it is just another India track which provides zero support for the bowlers. Morale will be high for both the teams - India after their win in the first ODI, and New Zealand after their incredible fightback with Michael Bracewell and Mitchell Santner. And toss will once agai have a big impact, with the team winning the toss very likely to electing to bat first under batsmen friendly conditions.
In this series of 3 ODI matches India is leading by 1-0. Both teams are strong and will play the second match tomorrow. New Zealand will try to its best to win that match because they will try to make the series by 1-1 and the third match will be the final. If India wins than the series will go in favor or India team.
India 1 and New Zealand 0, New Zealand's chances of winning is slightly higher in this aspect. The next game could be more difficult for both of the team. Whatever the number of winnings in the series. The competition between such good teams always at the highest level. India has performed brilliantly so far. In the previous series Sri Lanka was defeated by far distacne. In this series New Zealand have no chance but to win the next match to save the series. Will they be able to snatch victory from India?
Yes it is quite clear that New Zealand cricket team, to win this series New Zealand cricket team against Indian cricket team, need to win two matches in a row. On the other hand, one more match is enough for the Indian cricket team to win the series. Because India has won the first match against New Zealand and is ahead. But all in all, it is assumed that the upcoming matches are going to be tougher and tougher
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As the two strong teams face each other in the second match it will be very difficult to assumed that who will win. According to the condition of the ranking, India definitely have the possibility to win the match.  I personally belief that If the top order batsmen of any team perform well then the number of runs can be very high. If one wins the toss and goes to bat then they have to give a big target to their opponent otherwise they probably lose the match. As we recognize pitch condition will favor of batting. But over all condition I think there will be more chances to win by chasing tomorrow.
I am not considering New Zealand as strong team because they are missing their few top players and having mostly youngsters those are doing good job against strong team like India in India which is surely big achievement for them specially as they fight into first ODI no one was expecting fight like this from them after having target of 350 and their batting struggling badly, but lower order provide them good chance for the win now we can't expect same performance from these lower order batsmen in every match, but one thing is surely if we have another batting track which is possibility then we can expect another big scoring match like first one and during this series we can expect one or two more double centuries from Indian batting order because few are desperate for having a chance against bowling line up like this on batting track.
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Hats off to Michael Bracewell.

At one point it was a dead chase where they were at 131/6 and from there he took a charge and gave his team big hope of winning the match and doing so gave a good scare to the Indian team but Lord Thakur was playing for India lol

Gill is proving his worth in ODI and it seems it's his fav format.
Really man what a match it would have been if Bracewell would have taken it away. All the happiness of Gill's double hundred would have turned into sadness. But these kind of comebacks prove why New zealand is number 1 team in ODIs right now. Doing such things that also in away matches. But hats off to Gill. I believe Gill and Kishan is now the future opening pair India can look upto. And too early to say I know but Gill can prove to be the next run machine for India after Sunil Gavaskar, Sachin and Virat. But Gill has to improve himself to adapt in other formats as well. He won't get a lot of opportunities, being in the team is too competitive right now.
Gill is an excellent batter but the problem with him is that he takes time to get set and aslo doesn't take any risk. That is the reason why he is not suitable for T20 format. Ishan Kishan suits more as a T20 batter as he is quick and is also not afraid to take risk. Too much competition between these two players but only one would get an opportunity to be part of playing 11 in the upcoming world cup.
You are right but I think so was the problem with Kohli until some time back. He also used to play in the same way until a few years back and yet was pretty successful in that format. I think if you open the innings you have the freedom to take your time and settle and we saw the sixes he hit once he was settled. So I think as long as he is scoring runs, he can be the part of the team. Ishan Kishan obviously is much suitable he has a batting style more like that of Rohit Sharma. Which is why I think he would play that role in the team moving forward.
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The second ODI will take place tomorrow, at the Shaheed Veer Narayan Singh International Stadium in Raipur. I don't know much about this venue, but I guess it is just another India track which provides zero support for the bowlers. Morale will be high for both the teams - India after their win in the first ODI, and New Zealand after their incredible fightback with Michael Bracewell and Mitchell Santner. And toss will once agai have a big impact, with the team winning the toss very likely to electing to bat first under batsmen friendly conditions.

Team winning the toss will definitely bat first in the tomorrow one day match between New Zealand and India. However, batting team needs to score over 300 runs in order to be comfortable otherwise anything under 300 can be easily chased.

If you are looking to bet on this match, i will suggest to bet on India as the condition will favor Indian team more than the New Zealand team.

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I am suprised that you are saying that Indian pitches provide zero support to bowlers. Please check the stats from the previous bilateral series between Srilanka and Newzealand. If Indian batters are batting extremely well then the pitches are not good for bowlers but if Indian batters are failing to score good then the pitch is good for bowlers. Hypocrisy at its best.
I don't call this hypocrisy because if you are able to check then go ahead in limited overs format mostly Indian pitches never been helpful for the bowlers; both spin and pace bowlers concedes too many runs as mostly bowlers having hard time to do things unlike they can in SENA countries because mostly they have supporting pitches which helps both batsmen and bowlers which give fair competition but here in subcontinent we have never supporting things like that.

If few pacers are able to have wickets it's not just because of pitches it's just because while you are hitting badly any poor shot going directly into hands of fielder which is bowlers' luck and having the good number of wickets at bottom is also never been ideal because at the top all damage is already done and things in batting control.
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The second ODI will take place tomorrow, at the Shaheed Veer Narayan Singh International Stadium in Raipur. I don't know much about this venue, but I guess it is just another India track which provides zero support for the bowlers. Morale will be high for both the teams - India after their win in the first ODI, and New Zealand after their incredible fightback with Michael Bracewell and Mitchell Santner. And toss will once agai have a big impact, with the team winning the toss very likely to electing to bat first under batsmen friendly conditions.
I am suprised that you are saying that Indian pitches provide zero support to bowlers. Please check the stats from the previous bilateral series between Srilanka and Newzealand. If Indian batters are batting extremely well then the pitches are not good for bowlers but if Indian batters are failing to score good then the pitch is good for bowlers. Hypocrisy at its best.

In the past, we have seen the Indian tracks being very helpful for spin bowlers. But in recent times we have seen the tracks get better for fast bowlers as well. And honestly, I do not think there is anything about hypocrisy. The condition of pitches changes even during a match. It is very easy for the players to bowl well and bat well in the same game.

So, I think it is not right to say that we do not find bowling pitches in India. And at the same time, it is also not right that the tracks that we find in India are always balanced.

Hypocrisy in this context meant being idiotic & stupid, when you know the game and still post irrelevant info in order to  get your signature campaign quota. Already their is neutral trust relevant to her/his posting.

The first bilateral series of this year with Srilanka, the Indian bowlers played a big role. In the current series against the Kiwis the pitch did help the bowlers but since the a single batter namely Gill & Bracewell batted excellently the match became entertaining.

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The second ODI will take place tomorrow, at the Shaheed Veer Narayan Singh International Stadium in Raipur. I don't know much about this venue, but I guess it is just another India track which provides zero support for the bowlers. Morale will be high for both the teams - India after their win in the first ODI, and New Zealand after their incredible fightback with Michael Bracewell and Mitchell Santner. And toss will once agai have a big impact, with the team winning the toss very likely to electing to bat first under batsmen friendly conditions.
I am suprised that you are saying that Indian pitches provide zero support to bowlers. Please check the stats from the previous bilateral series between Srilanka and Newzealand. If Indian batters are batting extremely well then the pitches are not good for bowlers but if Indian batters are failing to score good then the pitch is good for bowlers. Hypocrisy at its best.

However, the toss can be crucial. That part is unavoidable. There was a massive total put on the board by Indian batters in the first ODI. There will always be pressure when you try to reach that total. Thus, winning the toss and putting a heavy total would work in your favor. It will be more fun to watch the second ODI since many people believe Kiwi will turn things around. Michael Bracewell came close to giving the Kiwis a victory despite having 138/6 halfway through the second innings. As for Kiwi's chances in the second ODI, I am confident they won't miss out.
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The second ODI will take place tomorrow, at the Shaheed Veer Narayan Singh International Stadium in Raipur. I don't know much about this venue, but I guess it is just another India track which provides zero support for the bowlers. Morale will be high for both the teams - India after their win in the first ODI, and New Zealand after their incredible fightback with Michael Bracewell and Mitchell Santner. And toss will once agai have a big impact, with the team winning the toss very likely to electing to bat first under batsmen friendly conditions.
I am suprised that you are saying that Indian pitches provide zero support to bowlers. Please check the stats from the previous bilateral series between Srilanka and Newzealand. If Indian batters are batting extremely well then the pitches are not good for bowlers but if Indian batters are failing to score good then the pitch is good for bowlers. Hypocrisy at its best.

In the past, we have seen the Indian tracks being very helpful for spin bowlers. But in recent times we have seen the tracks get better for fast bowlers as well. And honestly, I do not think there is anything about hypocrisy. The condition of pitches changes even during a match. It is very easy for the players to bowl well and bat well in the same game.

So, I think it is not right to say that we do not find bowling pitches in India. And at the same time, it is also not right that the tracks that we find in India are always balanced.
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The second ODI will take place tomorrow, at the Shaheed Veer Narayan Singh International Stadium in Raipur. I don't know much about this venue, but I guess it is just another India track which provides zero support for the bowlers. Morale will be high for both the teams - India after their win in the first ODI, and New Zealand after their incredible fightback with Michael Bracewell and Mitchell Santner. And toss will once agai have a big impact, with the team winning the toss very likely to electing to bat first under batsmen friendly conditions.
I am suprised that you are saying that Indian pitches provide zero support to bowlers. Please check the stats from the previous bilateral series between Srilanka and Newzealand. If Indian batters are batting extremely well then the pitches are not good for bowlers but if Indian batters are failing to score good then the pitch is good for bowlers. Hypocrisy at its best.
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