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Anyone watching the 2nd ODI between New Zealand and the Netherlands right now? I am watching the match live on Amazon PrimeVideo, and New Zealand are in a lot of trouble at 38/5. Logan van Beek and Fred Klaassen just destroyed the Kiwi top order (supplemented by some poor shot selection from the NZ batsmen). Tom Latham is at the crease along with Colin de Grandhomme, and if these two are not able to build a big partnership, then New Zealand will lose 10 valuable points in the ICC ODI league.
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What do you think of the women's world cup Sunday final, who will win the final?  Although Australia looks strong usually a team like England who struggled initially in the tournament has more chances of lifting the cup.

Even though i agree that England started this tournament badly as they had to win their last few matches consecutively to reach the semi finals, which they did and also win the semi finals but now they have to face the most important final match with the best team of the tournament. You can argue that the unbeaten Australian women's team will have one bad day in the tournament and that day could be the final but this is not necessary. They can beat England, lift the cup and remain unbeaten in the tournament.

Don't think England is going to be able to beat Australia in the finals because Australia is still unbeaten in this tournament and I really don't think that they have shown any weakness but only, on the other hand, England has shown plenty of their weakness and Australia is surely going to capitalize on that. I really don't think Australia is going to have 'one bad day' in the final.
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Just look at the Dominance of Australia and England's women teams in the world cricket (New Zealand is outlier tho).

This won't be understatement that both teams has strong claim on WC trophy. Although Aussie on particular are ruthless, don't know how many record their women's team hold in cricket. On many account they even surpassed their Men's team.

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Even though i agree that England started this tournament badly as they had to win their last few matches consecutively to reach the semi finals, which they did and also win the semi finals but now they have to face the most important final match with the best team of the tournament. You can argue that the unbeaten Australian women's team will have one bad day in the tournament and that day could be the final but this is not necessary. They can beat England, lift the cup and remain unbeaten in the tournament.

Most of the time the underdogs wins the tournament and in this final England are the underdogs. England surely have less pressure as compared to Australia. Australia are unbeaten so far in this tournament and odds are in favour of them but I still bet on this match since I believe that England might win the game.
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What do you think of the women's world cup Sunday final, who will win the final?  Although Australia looks strong usually a team like England who struggled initially in the tournament has more chances of lifting the cup.

Even though i agree that England started this tournament badly as they had to win their last few matches consecutively to reach the semi finals, which they did and also win the semi finals but now they have to face the most important final match with the best team of the tournament. You can argue that the unbeaten Australian women's team will have one bad day in the tournament and that day could be the final but this is not necessary. They can beat England, lift the cup and remain unbeaten in the tournament.
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Pakistan vs Australia Second ODI.

Australia has made another positive start, Travis Head and Ben McDermott  both not out on 59 while Australia total score is 130/1 in 20 overs. Pakistan did same mistake as they did in first ODI of bowling second after winning the toss. Australia will definitely score 300+ runs which won't be easy to chase under lights.

Never understand why they need to bat second after winning the toss especially when they have faced the music in the 1st ODI  Angry

In this 2nd ODI, Pakistan already lost this match as I don't think we have the batting strength to chase down the 350 target. So far both the openers are looking solid but I doubt they can continue with the same pace through the 50 overs.

Nothing is predictable when someone is playing against Pakistan. On same ground with same squad Pakistan wasn't able to chase 313 and very next day they chased 348. Imam has scored two consecutive centuries so far. Even now you can't say Pakistan can repeat same performance in 3rd ODI. Series is still alive, let's see wts ahead.
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Yes, seriously this was a miracle. After the end of the first innings, I could not believe even 1% that my team be able to chase this huge total, but they did it  Smiley

Well, the series has again become alive with 1-1 score line. A decider of the series will be played on Saturday. I cannot comment now as to who will be the winner.  We have to watch the match to see the winner.  Wink

You are not alone there were many who were affirm that Pakistan will lose 2nd ODI. Pakistan are never a good chasers, they are very uncertain even chasing a target of 250. Every batsmen contributed his part, while imam and babar scored centuries it's good to see good hitting from khushdil lower down the order.
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Well.. I am getting mixed signals for the second ODI. The Pakistani bowlers looked pathetic and they allowed the Australians to build a total of around 350 in the first place. But at the same time, their batsmen exceeded the expectation and managed to chase down the total. It was mostly a calculating mistake from the Australians, who thought that 350 would be enough on a flat track. Batsmen like Ben McDermott took some time to settle in, and that proved to be too costly in the end. Also, they scored at less than a run per ball during overs 40-45.

Not again. On same track we have a test match and ODI which Australia won and nobody complained about the pitch, everyone said Australia is good team that's why they won. Now this time it's Pakistan who chased down a mighty total of 348 rather then saying its a good effort from batting credit goes to flat track.

Haha, those giving credit to the flat track should know that both teams played on the same pitch. So the team who chased the sore is the batter of the two on the given day as chasing a bog total even on flat track is not easy at all.



What do you think of the women's world cup Sunday final, who will win the final?  Although Australia looks strong usually a team like England who struggled initially in the tournament has more chances of lifting the cup.
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Well.. I am getting mixed signals for the second ODI. The Pakistani bowlers looked pathetic and they allowed the Australians to build a total of around 350 in the first place. But at the same time, their batsmen exceeded the expectation and managed to chase down the total. It was mostly a calculating mistake from the Australians, who thought that 350 would be enough on a flat track. Batsmen like Ben McDermott took some time to settle in, and that proved to be too costly in the end. Also, they scored at less than a run per ball during overs 40-45.

Not again. On same track we have a test match and ODI which Australia won and nobody complained about the pitch, everyone said Australia is good team that's why they won. Now this time it's Pakistan who chased down a mighty total of 348 rather then saying its a good effort from batting credit goes to flat track.
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Pakistan isn't a weak team at this moment. They had the capability to win the first match too, but they lost it for the irresponsibility of their batsman. Pitch condition was batting friendly for both of the games. Pakistan lost the first ODI by 88 runs, still the betting odds was in favour of Pakistan before the start of the second ODI match. I think Pakistan will win the 3rd ODI match too.

Well.. I am getting mixed signals for the second ODI. The Pakistani bowlers looked pathetic and they allowed the Australians to build a total of around 350 in the first place. But at the same time, their batsmen exceeded the expectation and managed to chase down the total. It was mostly a calculating mistake from the Australians, who thought that 350 would be enough on a flat track. Batsmen like Ben McDermott took some time to settle in, and that proved to be too costly in the end. Also, they scored at less than a run per ball during overs 40-45.
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Yes, seriously this was a miracle. After the end of the first innings, I could not believe even 1% that my team be able to chase this huge total, but they did it  Smiley
Well, the series has again become alive with 1-1 score line. A decider of the series will be played on Saturday. I cannot comment now as to who will be the winner.  We have to watch the match to see the winner.  Wink
Pakistan isn't a weak team at this moment. They had the capability to win the first match too, but they lost it for the irresponsibility of their batsman. Pitch condition was batting friendly for both of the games. Pakistan lost the first ODI by 88 runs, still the betting odds was in favour of Pakistan before the start of the second ODI match. I think Pakistan will win the 3rd ODI match too.
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Never understand why they need to bat second after winning the toss especially when they have faced the music in the 1st ODI  Angry

In this 2nd ODI, Pakistan already lost this match as I don't think we have the batting strength to chase down the 350 target. So far both the openers are looking solid but I doubt they can continue with the same pace through the 50 overs.

So now you must have idea of why they batted second. Its highest successful run chase by Pakistan in ODI. Pakistan have lost 10 consecutive ODI to Australia. Last time they won ODI against Australia was in 2017. Pakistan proved once again that they are unpredictable.

Yes, seriously this was a miracle. After the end of the first innings, I could not believe even 1% that my team be able to chase this huge total, but they did it  Smiley

Well, the series has again become alive with 1-1 score line. A decider of the series will be played on Saturday. I cannot comment now as to who will be the winner.  We have to watch the match to see the winner.  Wink
Once after the first match loss, it looks like Pakistan have built themselves strong enough to compete against Australia. If one have watched the match then he/she won't say it a miracle, because every ball faced is being played with cent percent confidence by the players. In the first match also, they played with such a level of confidence and they weren't able to do it. This time they planned well and executed it. Credits to Babar Azam and Imam Ul Haq who managed to develop partnership without leaving the run rate down.
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Never understand why they need to bat second after winning the toss especially when they have faced the music in the 1st ODI  Angry

In this 2nd ODI, Pakistan already lost this match as I don't think we have the batting strength to chase down the 350 target. So far both the openers are looking solid but I doubt they can continue with the same pace through the 50 overs.

So now you must have idea of why they batted second. Its highest successful run chase by Pakistan in ODI. Pakistan have lost 10 consecutive ODI to Australia. Last time they won ODI against Australia was in 2017. Pakistan proved once again that they are unpredictable.

Yes, seriously this was a miracle. After the end of the first innings, I could not believe even 1% that my team be able to chase this huge total, but they did it  Smiley

Well, the series has again become alive with 1-1 score line. A decider of the series will be played on Saturday. I cannot comment now as to who will be the winner.  We have to watch the match to see the winner.  Wink
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Never understand why they need to bat second after winning the toss especially when they have faced the music in the 1st ODI  Angry

In this 2nd ODI, Pakistan already lost this match as I don't think we have the batting strength to chase down the 350 target. So far both the openers are looking solid but I doubt they can continue with the same pace through the 50 overs.

So now you must have idea of why they batted second. Its highest successful run chase by Pakistan in ODI. Pakistan have lost 10 consecutive ODI to Australia. Last time they won ODI against Australia was in 2017. Pakistan proved once again that they are unpredictable.
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Pakistan vs Australia Second ODI.

Australia has made another positive start, Travis Head and Ben McDermott  both not out on 59 while Australia total score is 130/1 in 20 overs. Pakistan did same mistake as they did in first ODI of bowling second after winning the toss. Australia will definitely score 300+ runs which won't be easy to chase under lights.

Never understand why they need to bat second after winning the toss especially when they have faced the music in the 1st ODI  Angry

In this 2nd ODI, Pakistan already lost this match as I don't think we have the batting strength to chase down the 350 target. So far both the openers are looking solid but I doubt they can continue with the same pace through the 50 overs.

I suppose you are miscalculating the strength of the Pakistan team. How is the score of 214/1 in 31 overs a bad start for the team?
Right now Pakistan teams looking favorite to win this match unless there is any batting collapse by them.
Imam ulhaq made a century and proved wrong to everyone who was pointing fingers on his performance. Babar Azam would like to win this match in order to keep the series alive.
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ICC Women's World Cup Final
AustraliaWomen vs England Women


Australia women's team and England women's team have qualified for the Women's World Cup final. The Australian women's team is very strong. And they have not lost a single match of the tournament yet. However, the England women's team is not weak either. Despite losing the first three matches of the group stage, they have dominated and won the next five matches. And so the match in the final will be very competitive. Although the Australian team is the favorite,  But, think both teams have equal chances to win the title.
Choosing the right team is definitely a challenge. After losing three in a row, the England women's team began to receive criticism, but what an amazing turnaround. It looks like they may win the title this year. They need to keep this winning streak going to be a champion or the Australians will win the cup.  ICC Women's ODI World Cup champions England women are defending champions. However, if they are going back to back, they better put full effort into it because the Australians are untouchable so far.
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Pakistan vs Australia Second ODI.

Australia has made another positive start, Travis Head and Ben McDermott  both not out on 59 while Australia total score is 130/1 in 20 overs. Pakistan did same mistake as they did in first ODI of bowling second after winning the toss. Australia will definitely score 300+ runs which won't be easy to chase under lights.

Never understand why they need to bat second after winning the toss especially when they have faced the music in the 1st ODI  Angry

In this 2nd ODI, Pakistan already lost this match as I don't think we have the batting strength to chase down the 350 target. So far both the openers are looking solid but I doubt they can continue with the same pace through the 50 overs.
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Pakistan vs Australia Second ODI.

Australia has made another positive start, Travis Head and Ben McDermott  both not out on 59 while Australia total score is 130/1 in 20 overs. Pakistan did same mistake as they did in first ODI of bowling second after winning the toss. Australia will definitely score 300+ runs which won't be easy to chase under lights.
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ICC Women's World Cup Final
AustraliaWomen vs England Women


Australia women's team and England women's team have qualified for the Women's World Cup final. The Australian women's team is very strong. And they have not lost a single match of the tournament yet. However, the England women's team is not weak either. Despite losing the first three matches of the group stage, they have dominated and won the next five matches. And so the match in the final will be very competitive. Although the Australian team is the favorite,  But, think both teams have equal chances to win the title.
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England women team got a huge victory in the second semi final. The final will be played between Australia and England women team. Australia women team has played very well during the whole world cup. They have won all of the matches. While England women team started with 3 consecutive lose. But they didn't play badly at all. And it is true that the comeback of England women team is really surprising. I believe that the final match will be competitive between them. However, Australia women team will remain favourite in the match.
England women won by 137 runs today, SA has only lost one match in group stage but now they are out. Credit for this victory goes to Danni Wyatt and Sophia Dunkley whose knock help England giving target of 293. Meanwhile in England bowling Sophie Ecclestone took 6 wickets. SA who were favourite for today's match failed to come up to expectations.

England's performance in the first matches on the group stage was also very poor. And it was very challenging for them to be in the first 4 teams of the table. They lost the first 3 matches. They have corrected their mistakes. And won the next 4 matches. They have been able to maintain this continuity. England completely dominated the match against South Africa. The bowlers have been able to perform their duties well. And that's why they got a huge 137 run win against South Africa.
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