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I am not agreed with you here about Covid is matter of concern for PCB or any other country as West Indies reach in Pakistan, and they have few players already have positive test, so they sent them in quarantine and after this during the twenty/20 series few more players and coaching staff have their test positive due to their breach of rules about this Covid-19.

We already have some very good number of cases happening in many countries and now in England many soccer matches are called off due to this, so it's not concern of one country or authority is already universal issue with some different ways. Hopefully now we will not have any shut down like we already have in the last few years.

Covid came as a blessing for WI as they were whitewashed on T20 series and same was expected in ODI series. PCB will be satisfied since they were able to conduct international matches in Pakistan. WI players catching covid in Pakistan will be a set back for PCB as other team will show concern before touring Pakistan next time.

Here I agree with your all statement about Kohli because he has done some countless mistakes and these done some big loses now BCCI done a good decision about this all but media creating hype about this all which is not good for both parties now it's time for looking ahead and having some better way with Rohit Captaincy hopefully now they will perform some better in both formats.

Right now biggest challenge is winning a series in South Africa which is possible with current team and performance but this need some good coordination between team and management.
Kohli is never been bigger than BCCI now it's matter of understanding for him because he is serving for his country and he can do some good in new role I love his batting and his passion about cricket.

That was supposed to happen because of the number of WI players getting infected due to this virus. I hope they are able to conclude the series as the situation is getting worse again because of the new variant. In any case I think the Pakistan team will win the ODI series too after seeing the worst performance by WI team in the T20 series.

Well, the most awaited ODI series between Pakistan and West Indies has been postponed due to the outbreak of covid in the West Indies players.

Pakistan vs West Indies ODIs postponed to June 2022

Both teams will resume the series in June 2022 when it will be summer and hopefully, things will be much better at that time of the year.

Of course kohli will accept decision just like anyother player will accept the board decision. Virat kohli is not above bcci. Its responsibility of bcci and every board to remove any player from captaincy with full honour.  In Asian teams such behaviour with outgoing captain is normal.

If i'm being honest then both parties acted weirdly. Be it BCCI leaking confidential news about Virat, sometimes ridiculous news or Virat considering himself bigger than the BCCI or anyone else. He literally thought that BCCI would let him choose whatever he wants as far as captaincy is concern. I don't blame him for going on that road, considering BCCI did ignored his countless mistakes in the last 4-5 years.

Team should be fine i suppose but i want to see batsman Kohli to fire up with the bat and compete like a champion in SA tour. Last time we were there, he fucked up with the team selection and we lost the series despite being a better team.

I feel that he would have accepted the decision gracefully if BCCI informed him about it properly at a proper time and place instead of suddenly blindsiding him in this manner.

Feels like someone in the BCCI who is on bad terms with him planned this out if you ask me. Worst part is that this kind of crap could hurt the team on the whole since some of them were probably pissed to see their ex-captain treated in this manner.

T20 and ODI goes hand in hand, majority of teams have same captain for ODI and T20. As both formats are about fast cricket. If Rohit is named captain for T20 then its obvious he will lead ODI squad also. As far as Kohli is concerned, he is not treated well by BCCI. He must be taken into confidence before making such a decision.

We have no doubt about Dravid's approach and his control in cricket, but now he is entering in new way which is most difficult specially when you are in India because here every time few Senior players have some good influence on team which many times create problems for few coaches, and they have to leave this job.

But, this is surely completely new entry because now Ganguly and Dravid due have some good knowledge about this all, and they play very long time together which is also good, so we can hope now they will do some better and positive things for this team which will work very positively for them in future which is very important for team and management.

Sachin made right decision by quitting the captaincy and playing as a normal player. This released pressure of captaincy from him and he as a batsman break record one after another. Kohli must realize that its not the end of cricket for him, he can still play as a batsman in the Team. Now he has no more pressure of captaincy on his shoulders.

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Every team follow mainly 2 setup

-1 captain for limited overs _White ball and 1 captain for Red ball
-1 captain across all format.

In such case BCCI has a every right to ask Kohli to step down from the ODI captaincy as Kohli voluntary decided to step down from the T-20 captaincy, in their point of view having 2 different captain for white ball cricket doesn't make sense. You can make case that Virat has done so much for the Indian cricket and BCCI should treat their legend with respect, which is 100% true. I think this is where BCCI fails royally as the organization on countless occasion.

Virat is strong figure in Indian sports but he's nothing when comparing to BCCI, actually no player comes close. Just look at old cases of Kapil, Sachin (not good example but still valid), Gangully etc when they were playing for the India. You can't arm twist powerful board for long, also we shouldn't forget the recent Kumble(Kohli) controversy over his coaching gig. Kumble had to resign because Kohli wanted him out. Kumble also made contribution to Indian cricket and he's also legendary figure in the Indian cricket.

BCCI clearly didn't handle this situation nicely but Virat is professional cricketer, he should be mature enough to see the writing on the wall and accept it grace fully similar to Sachin. Sachin also failed to delivered as a captain so he gave up the captaincy and played under 4 different captain after that. If Virat had one ICC trophy under his belt then his case could have been very strong but unfortunately he has none despite performing well in Bilateral series. As far as Test captaincy goes, he's good for another 2-3 years and its not going to change because no one comes close to him but power structure in white ball cricket has changed, for good or bad, well time will tell.

I remember Dravid was called as a WALL when he used to play for India, he is no doubt a top class middle order batsman. Its also positive thing that he has coached India U19 before coming to coach the national side. Can someone share his performance as India U19 coach? He played with Gangualy, lets hope his appointment is purely on merit. 

Am surprised to see no one here discussing Kohli's revelations earlier today. Was stunned to find out that the new captain of the Indian ODI team is Rohit and was even more surprised that Kohli found out about it hours before the announcement.

In my opinion, Rohit should be allowed to captain the T-20 team while Kohli should be allowed to captain the ODI and test teams. This is the optimal solution.

Treating Kohli who has achieved so much for his country in this manner is seriously messed up. Won't be surprised if he gets replaced by Rohit as the test captain sometime in the near future.

Surely rahul dravid was the best possible coach for India at this moment and BCCI took to right call. He is a very experienced player and players respect him already. Also he has coached India U19 team as well as India A team so he knows the young players coming in the team.
Surely his presence with bring positive results for India.

@galambo I feel the approach of Dravid is already in place, because if you see he’s already changed the Indian captain from Kohli to Rohit in ODI format (indirectly as I’m sure his input was taken, but can’t find a article to confirm it). Furthermore he has solid experience under his belt, and in coming matches we’ll see how well he shapes this Indian team.

There are very few names of coaches that have outstanding international cricket record. I never saw Ravi Shastari taking portfolio of Coach at any level, don't know what makes BCCI to give him this job. BCCI normally appoints foreigner coach and same holds true for PCB. Lets see how far Rahual Dravi goes. 


Also there are few international cricketers in umpiring as well Kumar Dharmasena an SL all-rounder and Paul Reiffel an Aus fast bowler.

^^ Greg Chappell's era was indeed very controversial, not much during Duncan Fletcher's tenure, although our national team performances went down the gutter that time, if my memory serves me well.

But you can't add Gary Kirsten name in this list, he did hit a few road bumps at start but slowly he became sacred cow for the Indian team and everyone supported the dashing proteas cricketer.

Australia has produced some excellent coaches. Apart from John Buchanan, there are others like Dav Whatmore, Greg Chappell, Geoff Marsh and Darren Lehmann. They are very professional and hard working, and not always afraid to voice their opinions. But the issue is that the sub-continent players doesn't always get going with them. Greg Chappell had some issues while working with the senior Indian players. Same happened with Gary Kirsten and Duncan Fletcher as well. Chappell had a stormy relationship with Ganguly, and also with some of the other seniors such as Sehwag, Harbhajan and Zaheer.

Agree here with you in this case because not even we have in cricket, we have many examples in other sports as well because I was reading in few blogs there are few coaches those never play these games but now doing great skills and having outstanding results as it need some good and different level mind and here in subcontinent have nothing like this in coaches mostly are just copying western points and giving their duties.

Recently few cricketers are now starting coaching which is good for this game as they have very bright ideas and skills with this all surely cricket is going to be better as we require some innovative things for having some different results and interesting games for fans as well.