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Quote from: fasmax on August 09, 2013, 10:48:58 PM

Oh boy I hope your wrong! It seems like TH would not have been able to deliver had the ASIC's arrived on schedule.

No, they are still waiting on parts. They did say that had placed more batch order to fill the pre-orders to date but then they just admitted that this isn't true. Neither TH, nor Yifu, nor any other ASIC supplier ever gives a straight answer to any of these questions - they always give some half-truth and then correct it later but with another half-truth. Either they are scammers or they fear that if they told the truth they would be out.

Then I think there are a few on these boards whose job it is to keep everyone looking forward to that eventual day when they arrive.

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I just posted this in another thread...found it interesting.

If you haven't watched this video, then you should. Actually I found this very impressive. Yifu obviously knows his shit" this is one of the best question and answer sessions I have seen in recent memory. I wouldn't under estimate this guy in terms of his abilty. This was just a little over 9 weeks ago. So pull up a chair, grab a beer or coffee or both and listen to how he addresses things. Pretty darn smart for a young guy. He has accomplished more than I first gave him credit for. Until now in my mind he was just the guy with the asic chips etc. Found this 25 minute video very interesting in many ways, in contrast to what has been being said in here. Guess if we dont like how he operates then we can always start our own asic machine building company enjoy..meet mr. yifu lol

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LY1xgGiejIc

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Oh boy I hope your wrong! It seems like TH would not have been able to deliver had the ASIC's arrived on schedule.

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Quote from: notlist3d on August 09, 2013, 09:18:43 PM

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Ok guys, here's the deal. Given the current conditions (rising difficulty, Avalon uncertainty, etc.), a lot of people who ordered chips from Avalon are willing to resell their chips at cost price. This was not true a month ago or so, when we made a deal to acquire two additional orders for a premium (We never bought those orders, but only made a deal to pay a premium once they had chips in hand). We have decided to scrap those deals and instead buy chip orders from people who want to get out by selling their order for the price they paid. We have got 3 offers so far. We will re-open pre-orders after buying these.

We will keep you posted on this development.

Also, all these 3 offers are for May orders.

Just saw this. Funny i thought claimed to have proof for all chip orders, now they say they never bought them on the extra early orders that were almost impossible to find when they claimed they did. This only in hand clause was never told to anyone when company showed off orders and vouched they had them all.

Ohhhh TH i don't miss the days of being a customer of yours. And they are willing to re-open pre-orders! Want to take bets on if this batch of pre-orders does not include paypal option?

Exactly.

These guys are scammers.

Look, let me just point out some minor details that are major red flags-- terrahash doesnt even have PSUs or cases ready to this day!
It is pretty clear cut what their intentions were.

And here we were worried about Avalon chips arriving...
Once we started asking for proof we start finding out the reason why he couldn't produce any evidence...

NOTHING is in place to fulfill our orders from what I have seen.

IMHO

1. Root cause of reopening pre-orders: not enough cash to buy a new life and retire
2. Terrahash game plan: It is clear for terrahash. Its now or never. Passports in place. Fund transfers to offshore complete.

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Quote from: notlist3d on August 09, 2013, 09:18:43 PM

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Ok guys, here's the deal. Given the current conditions (rising difficulty, Avalon uncertainty, etc.), a lot of people who ordered chips from Avalon are willing to resell their chips at cost price. This was not true a month ago or so, when we made a deal to acquire two additional orders for a premium (We never bought those orders, but only made a deal to pay a premium once they had chips in hand). We have decided to scrap those deals and instead buy chip orders from people who want to get out by selling their order for the price they paid. We have got 3 offers so far. We will re-open pre-orders after buying these.

We will keep you posted on this development.

Also, all these 3 offers are for May orders.

Just saw this. Funny i thought claimed to have proof for all chip orders, now they say they never bought them on the extra early orders that were almost impossible to find when they claimed they did. This only in hand clause was never told to anyone when company showed off orders and vouched they had them all.

Ohhhh TH i don't miss the days of being a customer of yours. And they are willing to re-open pre-orders! Want to take bets on if this batch of pre-orders does not include paypal option?

Hey, maybe a little misperception on the events for the already placed chip orders with TH vs. the additonal chips they were/are attmepting to aquire outside of those initial orders. The TH quote above is refering back to an even earlier post about a deal on I think, of 20k chips at a premium price, but they never persued it, as those chips had to be in hand for them to pay that premium price. ok, just wanted to share that much with ya buddy

Im by no means defending Th's customer service and information qualities" lol or lack there of

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Ok guys, here's the deal. Given the current conditions (rising difficulty, Avalon uncertainty, etc.), a lot of people who ordered chips from Avalon are willing to resell their chips at cost price. This was not true a month ago or so, when we made a deal to acquire two additional orders for a premium (We never bought those orders, but only made a deal to pay a premium once they had chips in hand). We have decided to scrap those deals and instead buy chip orders from people who want to get out by selling their order for the price they paid. We have got 3 offers so far. We will re-open pre-orders after buying these.

We will keep you posted on this development.

Also, all these 3 offers are for May orders.

Just saw this. Funny i thought claimed to have proof for all chip orders, now they say they never bought them on the extra early orders that were almost impossible to find when they claimed they did. This only in hand clause was never told to anyone when company showed off orders and vouched they had them all.

Ohhhh TH i don't miss the days of being a customer of yours. And they are willing to re-open pre-orders! Want to take bets on if this batch of pre-orders does not include paypal option?

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Quote from: notlist3d on August 09, 2013, 08:23:04 PM

Quote from: Vigil on August 09, 2013, 11:46:32 AM

Bargraphics knew from the beginning that these miners would not arrive on time which is why he always intended on selling.

There were many signs even from a little after beginning. I personally feel really good with getting my paypal refund long ago, was when they didn't meet deadlines on showing videos and lots more. Change of refund policy without notifying anyone before they took funds for orders.

Their communication was always horrible. Not to mention they did threaten me to close my PayPal dispute.

I will give them credit the chip delay isn't their fault on this. So cant blame that on them. I just wish more people would have listened to us telling to go for refund long ago from TH.

Perhaps that may have been the wise thing to do? time will tell, the jury is still out...but who else can offer a asic rig any faster or without any risk of time delays??? no one that I know of.... so take your pick,,,lol if ya want an asic built,,,guess ya got to get in line and wait and hope for the best Wink

Personally I really like the concept of individual klondike boards with the ability to chain,,,One board dies you pull it out of the chain and keep on gettn on mining! where as with an avalon asic miner, many have had issues and the whole rig is down,,,a pile of metal... So my interest is with the klondike concept and all the possibilities with custom case design,,or simple open air cooling...lots of plus's for me. And even KNcMiner,,will have the same threat of failure, if a connecting board/circuit etc fails..I may be wrong on that...but I know with asic, some have had internet issues etc,,rendering the unit worthless for mining,,,ok you get the point

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Quote from: Vigil on August 09, 2013, 11:46:32 AM

Bargraphics knew from the beginning that these miners would not arrive on time which is why he always intended on selling.

There were many signs even from a little after beginning. I personally feel really good with getting my paypal refund long ago, was when they didn't meet deadlines on showing videos and lots more. Change of refund policy without notifying anyone before they took funds for orders.

Their communication was always horrible. Not to mention they did threaten me to close my PayPal dispute.

I will give them credit the chip delay isn't their fault on this. So cant blame that on them. I just wish more people would have listened to us telling to go for refund long ago from TH.

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Quote from: crashzilla on August 09, 2013, 01:31:58 PM

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So, I tried to file a claim with paypal for a refund and they auto-rejected the claim because it is more than 45 days. Any advise on how to advance this further? Should I call paypal?

Keep in mind this is to everyone's advantage who is after order 45*. I never received any communication from Terrahash when I contacted them weeks ago. So, I assume I am on my own to try to get a refund through paypal. As I remember it, the refund policy was changed after I placed the order.

I am in the same boat. Not much help from PayPal. Now going through my Credit Card

Im not pursuing that route "yet" I still need more info on the delay in chips first. I would rather have the klondikes if possible in a reasonable time. I am not overly worried in forcasting the difficulty or the value of BTC at this time. Still will be money in it, in the short term anyways. It all depends on BTC value, People keep looking over the fact the BTC should rise as well as difficulty. What if BTC fell to 40 bux today? then the whole BTC world is kinda screwed for a while..lol...so...lets see wha pans out.

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Quote from: syncer on August 09, 2013, 06:36:01 PM

Quote from: Xian01 on August 09, 2013, 02:01:47 PM

Hah ! Did not know that. My family is from the Ternopil area.

Small world... Go Bitfury ! Щe нe вмepлa Укpaїнa !

Too small actually Grin

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Odessa here, lol

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Quote from: Xian01 on August 09, 2013, 02:01:47 PM

Hah ! Did not know that. My family is from the Ternopil area.

Small world... Go Bitfury ! Щe нe вмepлa Укpaїнa !
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Too small actually Grin

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Quote from: syncer on August 09, 2013, 01:53:33 PM

So fun to hear that, because it's so fuckin' true

Bitfury from UA by the way.
Me too

So lovely country Ukraine.

Hah ! Did not know that. My family is from the Ternopil area.

Small world... Go Bitfury ! Щe нe вмepлa Укpaїнa !

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Quote from: zurg on August 09, 2013, 07:38:38 AM

Although it could be somewhat true about organized crime...
My dad once "tried" to do some business in Ukraine.. by possibly opening a factory...
Ohh boy.., while he was even considering we were already getting some Mafia extortion calls on our unlisted US number. lol
Go figure.
That venture was quickly filed under do not touch ever again. lol

So fun to hear that, because it's so fuckin' true

Bitfury from UA by the way.
Me too

So lovely country Ukraine.

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So, I tried to file a claim with paypal for a refund and they auto-rejected the claim because it is more than 45 days. Any advise on how to advance this further? Should I call paypal?

Keep in mind this is to everyone's advantage who is after order 45*. I never received any communication from Terrahash when I contacted them weeks ago. So, I assume I am on my own to try to get a refund through paypal. As I remember it, the refund policy was changed after I placed the order.

I am in the same boat. Not much help from PayPal. Now going through my Credit Card

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So, I tried to file a claim with paypal for a refund and they auto-rejected the claim because it is more than 45 days. Any advise on how to advance this further? Should I call paypal?

Keep in mind this is to everyone's advantage who is after order 45*. I never received any communication from Terrahash when I contacted them weeks ago. So, I assume I am on my own to try to get a refund through paypal. As I remember it, the refund policy was changed after I placed the order.

Your only recourse is if you paid via a credit card through Paypal. Many credit cards will offer 90 day protection and will file a claim on your behalf to try and get a refund.

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Damn, I wish you two would shut up already. I am following this thread for information. If you two want to complain about the sand in your respective vaginas, please do it in PMs.

Vigil

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Quote from: Vigil on August 09, 2013, 12:57:33 PM

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Quote from: Vigil on August 09, 2013, 11:46:32 AM

Bargraphics knew from the beginning that these miners would not arrive on time which is why he always intended on selling.

Yes, you caught me. I'm actually the customs agent that stopped the shipment.

My diabolical plan is still in motion and there is nothing you can do to stop me! *Maniacal laugh* *Maniacal laugh* *Maniacal laugh*

In all seriousness, thank you for discrediting any and everything you say from now on with this post. Much appreciated.

You don't need to be a customs agent, the chips aren't at customs.

Everyone knows you are a trashbag and quite frankly, I don't give two dicks what people think of me on here.

I've never heard the expression "Trashbag" before, that's new.

I can tell you don't care what people think of you since you spew out illogical nonsense like it is fact.

Where are the chips then oh great wise one? I've hid them so well from everyone that I even forgot where they were.

I never claimed you had the chips. Some of the group buy organizers have the chips or at least enough of the chips to run some miners. they will eventually ship them out around September or October at the point the new chips will come out for those who can afford them because they profited off the 1st gen and delayed mass chip shipment. That is also when the guys who bought your miners under the assumption they would get them in mid-late july and mid august by the latest will receive theirs. Were more chips sold through Avalon Rigs or through group purchases? I would say group purchases - that hashing power had to be held off until a superior chip was ready to benefit Avalon's initial customers.

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Quote from: Vigil on August 09, 2013, 11:46:32 AM

Bargraphics knew from the beginning that these miners would not arrive on time which is why he always intended on selling.

Yes, you caught me. I'm actually the customs agent that stopped the shipment.

My diabolical plan is still in motion and there is nothing you can do to stop me! *Maniacal laugh* *Maniacal laugh* *Maniacal laugh*

In all seriousness, thank you for discrediting any and everything you say from now on with this post. Much appreciated.

You don't need to be a customs agent, the chips aren't at customs.

Everyone knows you are a trashbag and quite frankly, I don't give two dicks what people think of me on here.

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Bargraphics knew from the beginning that these miners would not arrive on time which is why he always intended on selling.

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No power in the 'verse can stop me.

Quote from: Vigil on August 09, 2013, 10:06:46 AM

Quote from: bkpduke on August 09, 2013, 10:05:18 AM

Fortunately, we can speak with our BTC Wallets next time. I personally won't be purchasing anymore Avalon products. Not when there are guys like Bitfury which are on-track with their delivery, and have far better ability to communicate with their customers.

But not making the ROI has prevented me from increasing my BTC wallet to the point of making a 2nd or 3rd gen purchase.

THIS!!!

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