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I have a list myself but I will not make it public unless everyone that had given me information explicitly stated they were ok with me doing so.

Not sure if Cryptoin would be available to help out
Cryptoin
Last Active:   September 07, 2013, 08:14:28 PM

Also I'm sure that most of the people that received their refund are probably away from this board as well sadly.

So far I've only heard of Credit Card and PayPal payments getting refunded from others. Most followed the repetition advice until someone escalated their claim.

Agreed.  Please keep thoughts on religion and dogma to yourself or in the off-topic forum.  There's no place for that here.

What about taking the order spreadsheet (database) and using that as a base to obtain further information on who's obtained refunds, and who is still owed money.

https://bitcointalksearch.org/topic/terrahash-order-database-find-out-when-you-will-get-your-order-248143

It would be good to get an order of magnitude on how many people are owed refunds.  Their method of payment (including transaction information if possible).

I wonder if Cryptoin would be willing to assist with that, or hand the spreadsheet off to someone who can add a few more columns to it.

More information on PayPal refunds:

Here is the closing statement I received from the rep that helped me with my case.  There's also an email address below that you can use to send your issue.   The issue is "Non-receipt of Goods".  You went beyond the 45 day window because it was a preorder of computer equipment.  The seller did ensure us that we would receive the equipment but there were delays.  Now you're over 90 days out and wish to obtain a refund before contacting your credit card company (assuming you funded your purchase by credit card).

Her name was "Mary" - number is "four zero two - nine five two - eight seven seven one"

As I say, she re-filed my claim.  I had to wait 10 days for the buyer to provide tracking information (which they can't, because they never shipped).

Hope this helps someone.  Be persistent and courteous to these folks.  They can help, but don't give them a reason not to help you.

I agree with you, I used Karma as an example but not based on my own beliefs. It has been fun watching Atomic use it for his trolling. I also have no interest in any religion of any kind.

While I'm sure it might feel nice to have some sort of conversation regarding this or any other off topic for this thread issue, this thread is for gathering information about Terrahash.

If anyone not providing additional information about Terrahash can refrain from posting that would be great.

Information Gathered so far about Terrahash:



Their Registered Agent:
CORPNET, INCORPORATED
340 N. Westlake Blvd. Ste. 210
Westlake Village, CA 91362

Office Address:
1800 Wyatt Drive, Suite 15
Santa Clara, CA 95054

Known Residential Addresses:
366 S MARY AVE
SUNNYVALE CA 94086

853 AMES AV
PALO ALTO CA 94303

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PROPERTY ADDRESS    366 S Mary Ave
Sunnyvale, CA 94086
OWNER NAME    Rhyu JungWon,  Rhyu Jermsoon
OWNER MAILING ADDRESS    853 Ames Ave
Palo Alto, CA 94303

JERMSOON RHYU (60 years old)    (408) 738-8494

Jungwon W Rhyu
http://www.linkedin.com/in/jungwon
AGE: 60 years old

RELATIVES:
Cara Rhyu
Jermsoon Rhyu
Christine Rhyu
Diane Rhyu
Aejie Rhyu
Jeimsoon Rhyu

Address 1:
366 S Mary AVE
Sunnyvale, CA 94086
(650) 813-0332


Address 2:
853 Ames AVE
Sunnyvale, CA 94086


Address 3:
853 Ames AVE
Palo Alto, CA 94303
(650) 493-7160

Previous Locations:
Sunnyvale, CA
Palo Alto, CA
Los Altos, CA
Mountain View, CA


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Not Confirmed

Court Schedules
http://dockets.justia.com/search?query=Amir+Khan&state=california

Portston, Inc. v. Amir Khan, et al Has Decisions
Filed: July 8, 2009 as 3:2009cv03086
Plaintiff: Portston, Inc.
Defendants: Amir Khan and Naytab, Solutions, Inc.



Sou Kousonsanong
Amir A Khan Sr
87 Burnham Pl
Fremont, CA


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CloudHashing

http://www.coindesk.com/terrahash-opens-asic-mining-preorders-loses-business/

Well take a blood pressure pill.... your good faith seeing them log into a account with these orders could be considered worth looking into.  All I am saying is if it might be worth bringing to a lawyer (if you are having to sue for losses) seeing very few if any others got to see them actually log in and see chip orders.  Did any other member see or verify them log into a account with orders?

Again could be nothing.  I don't know you, I know i sure was not there at their offices.  As i stated was a opinion and meant for thought for those having to seek legal action.  

I am not a lawyer or wanting to be one.  I just mentioned if they have a lawyer might be worth looking at, in no way did i say to send their lawyers after you.   If you think after lawyers look into you verifying their order there is liable or them coming for you in suit.... that is a assumption you are making.  I did not say that, just put ideas good or bad out there.  

Oh, sorry!

For real!

No offence taken and no offence meant!

I was only reflecting on the asinity of "relgions" and superstitions as a whole and nothing personal.

Thank you for your kind rely and I'll try to do better in future.



My $.02.

I haven't wasted anything.

I am not out one thin dime because I know a bad deal when I see one and was smart enough to not buy in.

I have been to two County Fairs and a Goat Ropin'.

To those of you who do not understand the expression, it means that I have been around........ a lot; much of my being around before many of you were born.

I saw this one coming and now all the poor folks who invested in Cloudhashing are equally as fucked because Cloudhashing was dependent on Terrahash to supply them with ASIC equipment.

All that money supposed to go to mining equipment; which mining equipment ain't there...............

Around a hundred grand or so, so Cloushashing says................

Customer's money paid for mining ain't mining, is it?

No "dividends" there, eh?

Over my head........................................................................... ............



My $.02

You apparently missed Bargraphic's post about Karma, which was what I was referring to.   Nonetheless, a welcome change in direction.

You just wasted $.02

How much are you out on this misadventure, Dutchman?

"Karma"?

It amazes me how otherwise perfectly intelligent and rational people ascribe to this superstition.

This matter aside, here is a case in point:

Christianity:

The belief that a cosmic Jewish Zombie who was his own father can make you live forever if you symbolically eat his flesh and telepathically tell him you accept him as your master, so he can remove an evil force from your soul that is present in humanity because a rib-woman was convinced by a talking snake to eat from a magical tree.

My $.02.

I also believe Knight acted in good faith, and have stated it a few times recently. Bar, just has a personality disorder and feels he should be the guy that protects what he believes in at all costs. His pocket paid.

I also wish Knight the best, and hope he can use some of his contacts to help reclaim some money.

If Bar loses? That's the one person I wouldn't mind losing.. Karma?

P.S. - Hopefully nobody was in Labcoin, that "scam" broke on Reddit, should be interesting watching that unfold.

Thanks MMNC! You're a class act my friend. Much appreciated. 

Hey KL,,, hows it going,,,I have pretty much backed out of this thread other than to read in here and there, but don't sweat it, I for one believe and know you were acting in good faith in this thread,,,,plain and simple. I wish you lots of luck in your efforts to retrieve your investments.....I held on in hopes of seeing TH come through, even hoped for a miracle when it started to look bad,,,,but got my chargebacks before shit really hit the fan. Take care if I dont see you in the forums, but some how I feel I will again,,,,,,,early on I know i had my doubts about you, but you changed that opinion long ago,,,take care!
MMNC

Notlist.... You really should lay off of the porn. What an idiot. Number one: TERRAHASH PURCHASED 40K CHIPS! THE ADDITIONAL 20K THEY CLAIMED TO HAVE BOUGHT, BUT DID NOT, WAS IN ADDITION TO THE 40K!

I verified it and documented it. Everything I did was in good faith. I am not liable for anything in this debacle you idiot.
In addition, I changed my feelings about Terrahash when it became apparent that they were not following through with their promises in early September. In the past month, you have quoted me from July and August, which is foolish. Isn't anyone entitled to change their opinion? Oh, not when you are a dealing with a child living in their parent's basement. Things have changed with Terrahash, that is clear. I made it clear that I was not happy with them. I even advised the board against trusting in any "Gen2" avalon crap. I'm not liable for anything. I didn't tell you to make your purchase back in June. I asked everyone to think clearly and not refund back in late July/Early August. During that time frame, I thought TH was legitimate, and I think they were working in good faith during that time. I changed my mind when TH did not show any logical business sense when Bitsyncom failed to deliver. I still don't think that TH was a scam. They have made bad business decisions and are becoming a scam by default. They could have handled this differently and possibly come out ahead, but they did not. So here we are..
If TH refunds 50% of our purchases, that will verify that they got their 40K chips orders refunded from Bitsyncom. They are claiming to refund all of us with BTC, which would indicate that they are planning on getting a lot of BTC. 3128 BTC is worth $437,900 at the moment. That would certainly get close to refunding 50% of the orders.

I have dozens of close friends that are judges, and more contacts in law than you can fathom. It's my background. Advising people here to send their lawyers after me would be an exercise in futility and would waste their money. I clearly was acting in good faith when I reported what I found out by visiting TH. I did not gain anything from my trips. In regards to my "SPECIAL DEAL TO PICK UP MY BOARDS AT THEIR OFFICE WHEN READY", that was a delivery option when we bought our boards! I live 3 hours away and figured I could save money by picking them up. It was an option you could select when making a purchase. Not some special arrangement I made with them behind the scenes. You are now the first person I am placing on Ignore. What a waste of oxygen...

Bar has things well in hand in this thread. He and I are in discussions outside the board. I am working to recoup my losses. Staying away from this thread helps my blood pressure.

Good god btceic.  Quit before the troll label really sticks.

You were right.  Now STFU.  Move on... capisce?

Please stop pestering me btceic.

Unless you want to meetup in Deerfield for some lunch I'm done with your crazy tin-foil hat conspiracy theories on here.

We can bring the kids and make it a play date.

Congrats!


For all of the others out there continue to call your bank, your credit card companies, paypal to get your money back. It can and has been done, don't wait for a lawsuit by anybody else. Take your destiny in your own hands and make this happen!

A "Real Man" doesn't consider people that disagree with them their enemy or resort to ad hominem attacks, no one here is begging and or pleading about anything, what we are attempting to do is drive off the scamsters, the hucksters from what could be the biggest thing since the internet or email or the internal combustion engine....

For me, it makes me feel like I am doing the right thing for the community, but have I ever once asked for a "Badge", or self nominated myself or chest beat like a low land gorilla?

What I will do however is continue to ask questions, questions that you refuse to acknowledge refute what you are saying and just continue on as if the evidence was not shown to you.

These questions are what I bring to this community, to this grand experiment that we have chosen to be a part of... therefore it is my duty, my obligation to ask these questions to those that decide to pray upon the weak, the naive, the blinded by greed and root out those that may try and lead others astray.

I choose not to skype with you not because I am hiding or ashamed of anything but rather the simple fact that nothing good could come of it, either way no matter what is said by us "trolls" you will continue to twist and squirm your way into whatever you want to believe.... you sir have taken the "red pill" as it were.


Unfortunately we cannot look back and review what you have said because you deleted, every single one of your posts related to TerraHash (and not just in this thread). (makes me wonder just how many other posts you have deleted...)


None of us wants to see anything related to bitcoin go bankrupt or dissolve, it is a true shame that this is what has come of it, if terrahash was real all they had to do was open up to us and we would have been right behind them doing what we can to make things work.


A couple of us had a pretty good idea way back in June that this might happen, have you not been paying attention?


You have never said that terrahash is incompetent, please show proof.

Only took the regular 10 day "wait for response from seller" window from PayPal, but I got my refund today and I started process well outside of 45 day window.  While all these bullshit ASIC manufacturing companies come off looking like scam artists, I'm gonna give props to PayPal for refunding my TH and BFL orders.

Best of luck to those that paid via BTC or wire, hope you get yours back too eventually.

That's good! I was also able to reverse my PayPal payment... through other avenues.  It wasn't easy, but it's possible.

I would keep trying folks... I know some of you are out some pretty significant amounts of cash.  The larger the number in red for PayPal, the more likely Amir will be held accountable.  He'll be washed up... finished... kaput.  PayPal's lawyers won't care about articles of Incorporation or any business format.  This is now a scam and PayPal, I'm sure, has more legal power in-house than any of us combined.