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newbie
Activity: 44
Merit: 0
September 30, 2013, 10:06:22 AM
well i am going to do a gamble.

I will double anyones money who gets a 50% refund so in effect you will get 100%.

if you don't get the 50% you only need to give me 10%. of your order.

I think its fair

its a super offer for all of you out there who still trust terrrorhash.  you keep on asking for dates of  a refund  .  as if when he tells you a date it will be then and there.

anyone interested pm me john k   escrow. Grin

I'm not interested but others might be, a few questions regarding your offer.

Is there a cut-off date? If not then when would anyone be liable to pay the 10%.

What is the Cap of an order? Could you cover someone that ordered a Full DX-Large?

What happens if that individual gets a refund by other means. Bank/PayPal/Credit Card. Do they owe you 10% or is the deal just nullified?

I assume you would have to put up the 50% in escrow once the "Deal" has been made correct? As the other individual would have to put up the 10%.




well ok you are not interested as you already sold a dx large for 150btc as per your thread (see my earlier post)  equivalent to $20000

1 cut off date 2020
2 the only cap is as much as terrorhash was prepared to take into their coffers
3 bank / paypal / credit card then obviously the credit card would pay the 50% as they are doing the refund cmmon  Huh
4 no one has to put anything anywhere if you feel that you need john k that that is fine

 Grin Grin Grin Grin Grin Grin

hero member
Activity: 518
Merit: 500
Every man is guilty of all the good he did not do.
September 30, 2013, 09:40:14 AM
well i am going to do a gamble.

I will double anyones money who gets a 50% refund so in effect you will get 100%.

if you don't get the 50% you only need to give me 10%. of your order.

I think its fair

its a super offer for all of you out there who still trust terrrorhash.  you keep on asking for dates of  a refund  .  as if when he tells you a date it will be then and there.

anyone interested pm me john k   escrow. Grin

I'm not interested but others might be, a few questions regarding your offer.

Is there a cut-off date? If not then when would anyone be liable to pay the 10%.

What is the Cap of an order? Could you cover someone that ordered a Full DX-Large?

What happens if that individual gets a refund by other means. Bank/PayPal/Credit Card. Do they owe you 10% or is the deal just nullified?

I assume you would have to put up the 50% in escrow once the "Deal" has been made correct? As the other individual would have to put up the 10%.

sr. member
Activity: 479
Merit: 250
https://streamies.io/
September 30, 2013, 09:38:42 AM
well i am going to do a gamble.

I will double anyones money who gets a 50% refund so in effect you will get 100%.

if you don't get the 50% you only need to give me 10%. of your order.

I think its fair

its a super offer for all of you out there who still trust terrrorhash.  you keep on asking for dates of  a refund  .  as if when he tells you a date it will be then and there.

anyone interested pm me john k   escrow. Grin

Sure I'll trust an alt any day of the week.    Roll Eyes   
sr. member
Activity: 479
Merit: 250
https://streamies.io/
September 30, 2013, 09:37:47 AM
Some points to consider before accusing us of scam:

2. We spent hundreds of thousands of dollars on components, heat sinks, cases, boards, cables. For people saying that its "only a few resistors", look at the BOM provided by BkkCoins. It says components cost around $23 for a K16. And this does not include the heat sinks (~$14), boards etc. For each K16, the components including the heat sink, board, power cables, etc. cost us around $45. And we were prepared to assemble around 5,000 K16s (for 80,000 chips). There goes $250,000.


This is the only point that matters, and it's bullshit.  If you did spent all that money on components, then show us the photos of those 5000 K16s.  You cant, because you never bought a fucking thing except a few test boards.



Dude there are pictures of cases of components, they didn't build the K16's because some of the components needed to be altered on the board to make them work.  Why would you fully build 5,000 boards and just hope it all pans out?  It doesn't take that long to assemble the boards thats why they gave a 2 week window from when the chips came in they were going to have the boards assembled when all the parts came in which is a good decision so you are not out on your ass if something like this happens.

I'm curious on when we are getting the refunds.  I just want to put this behind me and take my loss and move on.
newbie
Activity: 44
Merit: 0
September 30, 2013, 09:35:27 AM
well i am going to do a gamble.

I will double anyones money who gets a 50% refund so in effect you will get 100%.

if you don't get the 50% you only need to give me 10%. of your order.

I think its fair

its a super offer for all of you out there who still trust terrrorhash.  you keep on asking for dates of  a refund  .  as if when he tells you a date it will be then and there.

anyone interested pm me john k   escrow. Grin
sr. member
Activity: 392
Merit: 250
♫ A wave came crashing like a fist to the jaw ♫
September 30, 2013, 08:55:23 AM
If you are not a scam, you would have sent me back the 360 chips that you have flat out stole from me.
End of story.

Or did you already made the boards and mining yourself? Not a scammer eh?


Your chips are on the way to you already.

hchc, please confirm that they sent you a tracking number for your chips.

I'm asking. No response.

Thanks, please keep us informed.
hero member
Activity: 504
Merit: 500
September 30, 2013, 08:54:12 AM
If you are not a scam, you would have sent me back the 360 chips that you have flat out stole from me.
End of story.

Or did you already made the boards and mining yourself? Not a scammer eh?


Your chips are on the way to you already.

hchc, please confirm that they sent you a tracking number for your chips.

I'm asking. No response.
sr. member
Activity: 392
Merit: 250
♫ A wave came crashing like a fist to the jaw ♫
September 30, 2013, 05:18:14 AM
If you are not a scam, you would have sent me back the 360 chips that you have flat out stole from me.
End of story.

Or did you already made the boards and mining yourself? Not a scammer eh?


Your chips are on the way to you already.

hchc, please confirm that they sent you a tracking number for your chips.
full member
Activity: 232
Merit: 100
September 30, 2013, 01:39:55 AM
Since when did TH ever have 4 orders themselves?  They claimed to have ONE order and 3 other "pending" orders from third parties which never took place..
legendary
Activity: 3878
Merit: 1193
September 30, 2013, 01:31:01 AM
I am sorry, but I am not running a charity.

Yet you demand your customers donate to you by not giving 100% refunds.
sr. member
Activity: 389
Merit: 250
September 30, 2013, 01:14:25 AM
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Why only a 50% refund?
With people who paid with PayPal taking a 100% refund, it leaves a lesser share for everyone else. I am sorry, but that's how it is. We do not want to be owing hundreds of thousands to PayPal. Also, with some customers contacting our bank with fraud accusations, Chase has shut down our bank accounts. In my opinion they were just looking for an excuse. They have already contacted us in the past, asking for more information about our business, just because we were a "Bitcoin related business."

Good news. Chase Bank froze their account. They won't be able to touch the money and it may be used to pay back some of customers refunds.   
legendary
Activity: 1582
Merit: 1001
September 30, 2013, 12:23:26 AM
Justin / Amir - I believe the best thing you can do at this point is simply answer the questions, and keep in communications with everyone. While those related with Terrahash are clearly going through a very bad time right now, those who purchased from you are as well, and you owe those that believed in you and lost because of it an open line of communications.

It's been stated many times that communications and customer service was probably you main downfall. Do the following:

  • Provide Bargraphics or whoever else is seeking to contact you, your info, with the agreement that they will only communicate with you on legal proceedings
  • Provide everyone a timeline of communications that you agree to stick to in order to provide updates, so people aren't left hanging for your next message
  • Provide as much transparency into your expenses as possible - Noone here was really an investor, but everyone took on that role when you used our funds to fund your venture, and you owe people that you stated will only get 50% back, an answer to where the money was spent
  • Explain the Cloudhashing situation, so this doesn't muddy the waters with your promise of 50% refunds
  • Provide exact details and timeframes on your refund promise
  • Update your webpage to spell out that you are no longer in business, and possibly use that to communicate out to customers if you would prefer not to do it here
Thats right, provide a date when refunds will commence......even if small ones, to start. And stick to it!

+1 glad i took you off my ignore list
that was a great list
legendary
Activity: 2198
Merit: 1000
September 29, 2013, 11:56:18 PM
Justin / Amir - I believe the best thing you can do at this point is simply answer the questions, and keep in communications with everyone. While those related with Terrahash are clearly going through a very bad time right now, those who purchased from you are as well, and you owe those that believed in you and lost because of it an open line of communications.

It's been stated many times that communications and customer service was probably you main downfall. Do the following:

  • Provide Bargraphics or whoever else is seeking to contact you, your info, with the agreement that they will only communicate with you on legal proceedings
  • Provide everyone a timeline of communications that you agree to stick to in order to provide updates, so people aren't left hanging for your next message
  • Provide as much transparency into your expenses as possible - Noone here was really an investor, but everyone took on that role when you used our funds to fund your venture, and you owe people that you stated will only get 50% back, an answer to where the money was spent
  • Explain the Cloudhashing situation, so this doesn't muddy the waters with your promise of 50% refunds
  • Provide exact details and timeframes on your refund promise
  • Update your webpage to spell out that you are no longer in business, and possibly use that to communicate out to customers if you would prefer not to do it here
Thats right, provide a date when refunds will commence......even if small ones, to start. And stick to it!
hero member
Activity: 630
Merit: 500
September 29, 2013, 11:36:42 PM
Justin / Amir - I believe the best thing you can do at this point is simply answer the questions, and keep in communications with everyone. While those related with Terrahash are clearly going through a very bad time right now, those who purchased from you are as well, and you owe those that believed in you and lost because of it an open line of communications.

It's been stated many times that communications and customer service was probably your main downfall. Do the following:

  • Provide Bargraphics or whoever else is seeking to contact you, your info, with the agreement that they will only communicate with you on legal proceedings
  • Provide everyone a timeline of communications that you agree to stick to in order to provide updates, so people aren't left hanging for your next message
  • Provide as much transparency into your expenses as possible - Noone here was really an investor, but everyone took on that role when you used our funds to fund your venture, and you owe people that you stated will only get 50% back, an answer to where the money was spent
  • Explain the Cloudhashing situation, so this doesn't muddy the waters with your promise of 50% refunds
  • Provide exact details and timeframes on your refund promise
  • Update your webpage to spell out that you are no longer in business, and possibly use that to communicate out to customers if you would prefer not to do it here
newbie
Activity: 53
Merit: 0
September 29, 2013, 11:22:14 PM
When are you going to start the refunds?
legendary
Activity: 2198
Merit: 1000
September 29, 2013, 10:06:24 PM
SO TERRAHASH,,,, there is no way any of the parts and gear you have on hand can be adapted to the gen 2 chips that our good friend YIFU insist are forth coming in november? or whenever....... there is no chance of picking up any of the pieces to help cushion the blow to those that you owe money to?.... short of knowing your true financial situation?....other than building your own miners from them to make BTC for you own wallet.........which if you did, i would hope that that BTC would go back to those you owe BTC to in here.....Just felt it had to be ask,,,, its ashame as the klondikes design had so much potential,,,,,and yifu says they can be adapted, but,,,,who can trust yifu right??? and many that wanted to trust you have gone away,,,,unless you owe them still,,,,, Just wish you could come clean with all,,, make it right.
member
Activity: 98
Merit: 10
September 29, 2013, 09:02:41 PM
OMFG this guy is COMEDY GOLD!

I think we should get a gang of guys and get some weapons make a visit to his location in the night and seriously force that amir to refund every penny he has - now that we know his address...

It would look about like this: http://youtu.be/bxoC5Oyf_ss?t=2m50s
Seriously, this kind of talk is really childish.  

what is crazy is that terrahash is looking to scam the community of half a million. And they are trying to do it with your blessing. Now that is definitely not child's play.

legendary
Activity: 2198
Merit: 1000
September 29, 2013, 08:47:53 PM
oops..... i think i made a political statement and it got deleted,,,,lol,,,,,, was sent to my email,,,as deleted,,,didnt realize at the time were not supposed to do that,,, Smiley anyone had that happen?.guess i got off topic,,,
hero member
Activity: 518
Merit: 500
Manateeeeeeees
September 29, 2013, 08:44:39 PM
OMFG this guy is COMEDY GOLD!

I think we should get a gang of guys and get some weapons make a visit to his location in the night and seriously force that amir to refund every penny he has - now that we know his address...

It would look about like this: http://youtu.be/bxoC5Oyf_ss?t=2m50s
Seriously, this kind of talk is really childish.  
member
Activity: 98
Merit: 10
September 29, 2013, 08:43:48 PM

Do you think it would have been helpful to communicate a bit more sooner than this?


^this. Scammer or not, this is the main reason of your (TH) downfall (and everybody else with it).
I sent your numerous contacts and you force ppl to bring it all out on the public thread. It's your choice.



Even with the Avalon chips you supplied. TH didn't bother to complete your order. So the way I see it. TH never intended to complete any of the orders in the time they estimated, if ever.

Exactly.
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