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If you paid via PayPal and want a refund...  LISTEN UP.

If you did not open a dispute within the 45 day window and you call PayPal... They will (9/10 times) deny you any kind of refund and say it's impossible as after 45 days their terms of service says they are not able to provide a refund.  That statement is sort of true.   If there are exceptional circumstances, PayPal WILL give you a full refund.

I got a refund from PayPal, today, for every order I placed  (If you ordered any TerraHash boards through me - you have been refunded too).

Here's how:

Call PayPal.  Get the fraud/dispute department.  Tell them you understand you are outside the 45 day window.  Tell them about TerraHash.  Tell them you and a lot of people online have been scammed by TerraHash.  Explain what TerraHash is doing and how they ave taken hundreds of thousands from PayPal users. shipped nothing, and will not reply to any contact attempts.  Ask to open a claim even if it's outside the 45 day window.   They may close your claim automatically, siding with TerraHash.  Call them back!

Especially mention the high dollar value.  Every time I dropped the amount of dollars that TerraHash took via PayPal they go get a supervisor.

If they refuse your refund, call again.  Talk to someone else.  Ask to talk to a supervisor.

If they refuse your refund, call again.  Talk to someone else.  Ask to talk to a supervisor.

I talked to a guy in the fraud department named Aaron, employee ID 45731.   He and his supervisor got my money back from TerraHash and he told me today, that he will do his best to help anyone else who can't get their money back from TerraHash.

So, PayPal tells you no?  Call again, get Aaron on the phone, tell him your story.  



If you are still within the 45 day dispute window.  Filing a dispute now will get you an extra 20 days of guaranteed refundability if TH doesn't ship, if not even more.  With no downside.   So on your 44th day, file a dispute.



TerraHash/Amir: You tried to fuck me.  The tables have now turned.

ya apparently they scalped cloudhashing as well....... we all thought they did the preorder to pay them off way back then,,,,,,hmmm?

I guess it's safe to assume that Terrahash never refunded Cloudhashing.

I agreed with this,

So you guys can keep you nonsense up, I'll be here giving out every bit of information I can about Terrahash and the lawsuit that I am able to for the benefit of the customers.

Note: Cloudhashing said they are also taking a legal stance against Terrahash in the CoinDesk article. Maybe they will also help provide any information that might be useful.

I agreed with this,

So you guys can keep you nonsense up, I'll be here giving out every bit of information I can about Terrahash and the lawsuit that I am able to for the benefit of the customers.

Note: Cloudhashing said they are also taking a legal stance against Terrahash in the CoinDesk article. Maybe they will also help provide any information that might be useful.

Terrahash opened for pre-orders despite promising not to take a cent up until they have units in stock. Their hand was forced because 10,000, of their 20,000 chip order (paid for) was for an order agreed by Cloud Hashing!

Cloud Hashing jump ship after KnC are proved more legitimate than assumed, and demand their $80,000 back from Terrahash. The order was $105,000 in value, but $80k was needed up front to secure the chips from Avalon that Terrahash went and did.

This left Terrahash $80k out of pocket despite securing premises to assemble and further parts etc. for Cloud Hashing's order.

This forced Terrahash to demand pre-orders, something they promised not to, but had to or face bankruptcy before starting forced upon them by Cloud Hashing.

The community saved Terrahash because Cloud Hashing has no integrity!

http://www.coindesk.com/terrahash-opens-asic-mining-preorders-loses-business/

Led to believe you would get the equipment before June? BS! Cloud Hashing was well aware the deal with Avalon could be delayed as BitSyncom sorted their shit out, as we all have known, but they were happy to jump on board until KnC started looking more legit, then Cooud Hashing dumped Terrahash high and dry whilst making a similar order for something with delivery in September...not June?!

Now, get this it appears Cloud Hashing want back in since Terrahash have had to order another 20k chips to satisfy demand; https://bitcointalksearch.org/topic/m.2527527 presumably ahead of the pre-orderers that just saved Terrahash from going under!!

After this, no one should be doing any business with Cloud Hashing period, that's just common sense. Integrity is everything!

This is without the fact Cloud Hashing's business method to their own customers is at best unstusstainable, and at worst knowingly faudulent. With the latter overtly being the case!!

Terrahash customers, Cloud Hashing put you right in this pre-order mess and now they want back in to jump queue, be warned...

Terrahash don't you dare return that call, Cloud hashing almost unceremoniously, and purposely sank your business!

Look, there are a lot of people out some large amounts of cash here.  It would be best if we could keep the squabbling off this thread so we can work towards some type of resolution to this.  It's a bad deal, and some people seem personally offended by others in this thread.  But continuing on in this fashion isn't helping anyone.

I vote we start working towards some type of resolution.  Be it a group legal action (class action) or useful info (such as how to reverse PayPal after 45 days).

What a fun filled day yesterday was! It was like pouring water on an ant hill (The Ants being the trolls in this thread and surprisingly other threads as well!)

Let me just say that while I fully expected for you guys to go nuts about me deleting my posts, you've outdone yourselves! What better way to drive you guys crazy than to send you into mass confusion/tinfoil-hat country.

Here are a few of the Gems I saw in other threads.



and not to mention this one that really got you guys going.


I think btceic made ~13 posts yesterday just about me.

There was mass panic in the KnC Thread about why 8 or so pages were missing for a good 3 hours.

I'd say operation troll the trolls was highly successful.

Oh and the best part of it is I have Atomic wasting a ton of his time trying to bring back the posts from the dead.

PS: I Voted Grapefruit on the poll of yours Eric, we actually should grab lunch or maybe jump on skype sometime. You literally live ~4 hours from me. It would be interesting to see how you act/are off the forums.

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Now that everyone with PayPal and Credit Cards have done charge backs, Terrahash does not have the ability to continue doing business which means everyone that did a Wire or paid in BTC gets screwed over. So while you are correct and that everyone should have got a refund, you also screwed over everyone that couldn't get a refund and had to try to stick it out.
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