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With the exception of CryptoNote no other anon coin offers even a remote chance at real anonymity.  Nothing but gimmicks.

I'm pretty stunned at how many people are paying big money for CrapCoins for gimmicks like DARK, BitcoinDark, etc...

What about the implementation of zero coin. I've heard that holds the real promise of anonymity
Both Zerocoin and Zerocash are abject trash until they demonstrate that the necessary key can be created in a trustless manner. I doubt that is possible. Even if it is, there will always be a degree of doubt. The consequences of such a key being retained and misused would be disastrous. Why even take the risk when there are other solutions without this issue? Perhaps zero knowledge proofs will have some applications, but a cryptocurrency is not one of them.
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Talk & trolling thread. All that was posted in this thread should lie in https://bitcointalksearch.org/topic/official-anoncoin-information-faq-description-thread-i2ptor-explained-mod-309716 now.



Anoncoin 0.8.5.6 is released!

Windows and OSX binaries are released here:
https://anoncoin.net/index.php/downloads

Changelog:
https://anoncoin.net/blog/?p=45



You can also style your client with CSS. Put a CSS file inside your anoncoin config dir, like default.css, and then add style=default.css to load the stylesheet! Link to CSS reference is here: http://qt-project.org/doc/qt-4.8/stylesheet.html
How many of these coins are we gonna see?It's good as long as no scams and trustworthy developers are coming up with these things
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As an update, alot of invalid TXs got mined by me, seems someone was waiting for some huge amount of ANC from craptsy:

http://ancblockchain.com/block/976247b1d752cc051539152fbdad062754ccac176694058bf1345bc21ddc6c93

Cry I wished so much it was "a702d4f6530ec40e3bde6b14f24511b222cb8fb2ef88e721d26f35fea57d0d91"

still isn't mined it seems. It's 7 Days now. I mean O_o how stuck are these Blocks?
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This attack shows how using a myriad of AuXPoW chains could avoid this problem.  As by using a myriad of chains then the attacker would need to attack more than one chain.  While using AuxPoW with the biggest coin on each chain would greatly increase the network hashrate.  I think you should quickly adopt AuxPoW with litecoin how Dogecoin has just done so to help stop any potential future attacks.  Then the myriad with NeoScrypt Feathercoin merge-mining and Lyra2 Vertcoin merged-mining can brought in a later date.  Plus it may be worth including Cryptonight Monero AuxPoW with the myriad.  Plus possibly X11 Darkcoin merge-mining included in the Myriad.  To have a total of three to up to possibly five myriad chains all in AuxPoW with the biggest networked coin on each chain.  As with a myriad of five chains then an attacker would need to control three of the five AuxPoW chains to control the network.


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As an update, alot of invalid TXs got mined by me, seems someone was waiting for some huge amount of ANC from craptsy:

http://ancblockchain.com/block/976247b1d752cc051539152fbdad062754ccac176694058bf1345bc21ddc6c93
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With the exception of CryptoNote no other anon coin offers even a remote chance at real anonymity.  Nothing but gimmicks.

I'm pretty stunned at how many people are paying big money for CrapCoins for gimmicks like DARK, BitcoinDark, etc...

What about the implementation of zero coin. I've heard that holds the real promise of anonymity
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I see huntercoin that has a genuinely innovative project.

PoZ: Proof of Zebra. Mine Huntercoin killing zebras in Africa with Pablo Grin

My name is not pablo anymore.

If some variation of the huntercoin mining technique were incorporated into anc, something that let 1 person with the cheapest pc mine 0.1 usd per day sitting on a park bench, anc would be at a high price within weeks.

Unless anc waits 6 months, when dozens of coins are doing that. Then it willjust playing catch up like it is now.
Dear sock puppet. If someone could mine 0.1 USD sitting on a park bench with the cheapest pc, how much do you think that a professional mining operation would make? Do you think that this would make anoncoin (or any other coin that implemented this idea) safe from a 51% attack, or from the difficulty manipulation we just experienced? It would be great if you could read up on how cryptocurrencies actually work so that we could have a more informed discussion here.
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Wow this could be great news for ANC, it's just got listed on CEX.io as a bitcoin trading pair, volume so far is ZERO, no buy/sell orders, but that WILL change...

https://cex.io/trade#ANC-BTC

You might have to be logged in to access that link, expect some serious volatility as this gets rolled out!

GR

ETA: Transfer of some coin from Cryptsy to CEX.io took only a few minutes...

ETA2: It should be noted that, once there, if you try to withdraw ANC, it is set @ a 1000ANC commission!  This freaked me out at first, then I realized that POT, WDC and MEC coins were also newly listed today and also set to 1000 coins for a withdrawal, my guess is that the programming on these new additions is a work *in progess*, so don't get to alarmed over removing your coin at the moment, I'm sure they will set a withdrawal fee to fair market values in each asset, just wanted to let everybody know about what I'm finding and what is happening over there....
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rsaufo and drAGon, rats don't leave good ships, they leave sinking ships.

I still post on this thread if I have something to say but anoncoin is rudderless. It is trying to see what it can copy or immitate instead of being a real coin. I see huntercoin that has a genuinely innovative project. If you want to copy something why not at least copy something good? If you just want to whine about 'rats deserting you' then carry on.

Comments like these do not contribute anything to the discussion; please refrain from similar comments in the future.
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Just came on to voice my support for allot of your latest ideas matthewh3...

Way out of my league speaking up, only a few months into really putting allot of time in to figuring out a small fraction of this stuff, and then mostly my efforts have been in regard to Ixcoin and how to bring it's code base up to the bitcoin core 9.2 level and keep it current going forward as the block rewards hit zero within the next 2 months, now after 3+yrs, it will be out of newly mined coins, and survive on only transaction fees or die trying. 

Thanks goes out to ahmed_bodi for an extremely quick code upgrade, over the course of only a few days here in Aug 2014, a new Ixcoin 9.2 core client was born, nearly complete source is up on github & can be found here:
https://github.com/IXCoin-Dev/IXCoin

I not privy to whom he is, other than knowing he's involved with the Myriadcoin development and PolyMYR mining interests, the code (linked above) has to be tested on PolyMYR yet and undoubtedly will have some final AuxPoW tweaks before being finalized & released into the wild.  Then also CEX.io (aka ghash.io multipool) is standing firm on their commitment to IXC, where it will have to also be thoroughly tested before implementation into their pools.  We'll see....

My current opinion is that 'How' a developer implements AuxPoW, is at best a tricky proposition, one that takes allot of different parameters into consideration.  To do it well with a Scrypt coin like zAnoncoin should be fairly straightforward, yet honestly I've not tried to take a close look at what will be required, there are only a very few implementations out, it sure does look like there is taking place an explosion of in code around this topic.

Considering all the various build tool requirements and various code base branches, it's not just a quick fix to drop into use for older coins with established blockchains and investors to consider, unless you've got the resources of a mining multipool at your finger tips for testing.  Ixcoin was easy for him, it is bitcoin except for a few lines of code difference, and then the fact it has been merge-mined alongside the likes of NMC & DVC, for many years now, already proven code at the 3.x,6.x & 8.x code base levels.  Its not my call, but Meeh was asking for opinions and implementing an Scrypt version of AuxPow would be a really great step towards strengthening zAnoncoin's position going forward IMO.....

The reason for all my discussion on ixc, is it points out how important that mining interests are satisfied, even for us zAnoncoin enthusiasts, many of us whom would probably rather not have to care about them.  Protecting a coins network with lots of hash is a security feature we all want to be able to depend on and need to make this work, in a mutually beneficial way.  As the price of zANC jumps up, mining it will be very profitable for them, lets make it easy and in so doing it will provide us with security and low transaction fee costs.  At least that is obviously my 'hope'  Tongue

An AuxPow Scrypt implementation right now should do the trick, let the merged-mined blocks appear in the zANC blockchain as proof of work.  As to getting into multiple or different algorithms, I've yet to wrap my mind around why it is needed, undoubtedly tech changes will require it, but some algorithms will also have been found to fail or worse. 

GR
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This attack shows how using a myriad of AuXPoW chains could avoid this problem.  As by using a myriad of chains then the attacker would need to attack more than one chain.  While using AuxPoW with the biggest coin on each chain would greatly increase the network hashrate.  I think you should quickly adopt AuxPoW with litecoin how Dogecoin has just done so to help stop any potential future attacks.  Then the myriad with NeoScrypt Feathercoin merge-mining and Lyra2 Vertcoin merged-mining can brought in a later date.  Plus it may be worth including Cryptonight Monero AuxPoW with the myriad.  Plus possibly X11 Darkcoin merge-mining included in the Myriad.  To have a total of three to up to possibly five myriad chains all in AuxPoW with the biggest networked coin on each chain.  As with a myriad of five chains then an attacker would need to control three of the five AuxPoW chains to control the network.
Not being a miner, I am leaning towards Crytponight as my favorite proof-of-work algorithm. It is heavily CPU oriented, which will put off mining centralization for some time.

Perhaps there are similar cpu-oriented algorithms out there, but cryptonight addresses another important point: If we go toward merged mining in the future, which coin would we want to do this with? The only coin that I know of that is putting privacy first, and for which the developers have some integrity, is Monero. Given the new partnership between the two developers in PrivacySolutions.no, if we went in this direction, this choice seems to be a no brainer.

The only other algorithm out there I have some respect for is Peercoin's proof-of-stake (though I would prefer a 100% proof-of-stake system...). A built in inflation of ~1% is something that we could probably live with. No one would get rich mining via POS, which is fine by me. Unfortunately, I don't think that POS will work once Zerocoin is implemented. POS would probably only work with ANC balances (which can be "staked"), and not with zerocoins that are in an anonymous escrow pool. I suspect that about a third of ANC will be locked up in zerocoins, which will limit the number of people mining via POS. It is possible that I am wrong, and that zerocoins could be staked like ANC, but this would probably require some important modifications to the original algorithm, and with zerocoin development going on, combined with the arrival of scrypt asics, I don't think that we will have the time to implement this.
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This attack shows how using a myriad of AuXPoW chains could avoid this problem.  As by using a myriad of chains then the attacker would need to attack more than one chain.  While using AuxPoW with the biggest coin on each chain would greatly increase the network hashrate.  I think you should quickly adopt AuxPoW with litecoin how Dogecoin has just done so to help stop any potential future attacks.  Then the myriad with NeoScrypt Feathercoin merge-mining and Lyra2 Vertcoin merged-mining can brought in a later date.  Plus it may be worth including Cryptonight Monero AuxPoW with the myriad.  Plus possibly X11 Darkcoin merge-mining included in the Myriad.  To have a total of three to up to possibly five myriad chains all in AuxPoW with the biggest networked coin on each chain.  As with a myriad of five chains then an attacker would need to control three of the five AuxPoW chains to control the network.
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It appears someone is exploiting a known bug with KGW. Have seen it on multiple other coins and am surprised ANC has escaped it up until now. The solution is to fix KGW with something like Digishield or anything the devs find appropriate.
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Meeh,  can community help on some way??

Do not be shy , tell us if we can be part of resolving this.



Where art thy candy butt! The blockchain here was shut : (
Resolving would be rather good away from pow and KGW neighbourhood.

So I am sitting here waiting on my Anoncoin and for a miner to join

#kindergardenrhymes
#Smokingdizzle to the rizzle.

Smoke some 420 to relax watching blockchain Grin

Be fast and sell on next blockchain release...

To buy what? Instamined Librexcoin?

There is nothing on this CryptoMarket more interesting than Anoncoin at the moment.
(Clearly the blockchain thing sucks big time - but still)

Anonymity is the only thing Crypto has to perfect, if Anoncoin and its devs can do it it's a big step forward.
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Meeh,  can community help on some way??

Do not be shy , tell us if we can be part of resolving this.



Where art thy candy butt! The blockchain here was shut : (
Resolving would be rather good away from pow and KGW neighbourhood.

So I am sitting here waiting on my Anoncoin and for a miner to join

#kindergardenrhymes
#Smokingdizzle to the rizzle.
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Meeh,  can community help on some way??

Do not be shy , tell us if we can be part of resolving this.

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I was happy to see it is over, but I see we have new attack??

2h ago...

 Angry

EDIT

Like this attacker want that we send ANC to cryptsy and dump..

YOU wont see this, from me    Grin

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we need this : )

http://www.thecoinsman.com/2014/08/bitcoin/inside-one-worlds-largest-bitcoin-mines/
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Well, yah, update would be nice.
It's rather disturbing to have a stuck Blockchain. I always wondered why the price was so low, but it seems it happened a few times...

I can understand "investors" or fans of this Coin to steer clear from it until this is not solved
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As an update, the stuck tx's will be "soon" mined. Once i find a block Wink

Now tell us more about the blocks you have found the last 24 hours? Wink

Everybody please put this troll on ignore and be done with him, he just wants to spread panic, why else register a new account today just to talk trash in this thread.

Then do you have any explanation for the blockchain problem?
The explanation is very simple. The difficulty for mining has jumped to 500 (not sure why, probably multipools?). It is going to take a long time to mine the next block. Nothing to worry about.

Just look here

http://ancblockchain.com/chain/Anoncoin

It is my understanding that this kind of problem will be fixed in the next release: the devs are going to replace the kimoto gravity well algorithm with something better.

Sorry but you are wrong. Someone is spamming the network with 8 Ghz since more than 24 hours!
Hello Troll

You cant "spam" the network, you can only try to solve blocks. Your talking about 8GHz but in fact you probably mean 8GHs which is something different. If there would be constantly 8GHs @ ANC, then we wouldnt have this situation. The current problem is that someone comes, mines some blocks and leaves again.

I'd pressume you have some buy orders and want cheap coins, creating panic may help you to get this but it will hurt you too long-term.
Please learn the things your talking about, otherwise we/i cant take you serious.

PS: answering to this is futile, ignore fixed you...

The blockchain is down during more than 24 hours by a miner? Who's the troll here?
I never claimed responsibility for this attack. What's your problem? You don't have arguments?

According with network stats below, one "miner" with a power until 50Ghz takes the control of the network and blockchain? What we can expect next time? A 90% attack?
http://www.coinwarz.com/cryptocurrency/coins/anoncoin

No one here is able to solve that problem with an update? ANC is only promises?
Sock puppet: it is GHash/sec - billion hashes per second.

Also, it doesn't look like this was a 51% attack (double spend) to me. Though I don't fully understand the logic of the attackers, it appears that they are manipulating the difficulty, which is set by the Kimoto Gravity Well algorithm. This is either to load up on coins, to sell later at a profit (the price of ANC is too low now to make profit), or it is a malicious attack to discredit the coin. If it is malicious, that's great! Someone cares Smiley
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:)
Blockchain seems to run normal again on one of my nodes Smiley
Yeah,  but according to the blockchain explorer, blocks are being found every 5 seconds...

Bounce-back from the holdup Smiley Gonna be a little wave wrt difficulty, but soon corrected Smiley
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