Topic: Official Anoncoin chat thread (including history) - page 160. (Read 530660 times)
Strongly vote against using the name zerotrust. It would sabotage the coin more than anything else.
The few people who understand the arcane reference to trustlessness would be outweighed by the huge number who would instinctively say "zerotrust, that sounds like a bad thing".
The few people who understand the arcane reference to trustlessness would be outweighed by the huge number who would instinctively say "zerotrust, that sounds like a bad thing".
I must reverse myself here and agree, after testing 'ZeroTrust' out on a few friends.... the first impression is that it is not trustworthy. We do have to aim at those without knowledge first and foremost. But for me, who knows what it means.... it sounded great at first.
Why does no one concern about the TITAN of DPOS ?
that is really anonymous mechanism.
that is really anonymous mechanism.
Maybe you can help Anoncoin, I see you know Chinese ?
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I didn't say I had a feature I didn't have before it was finished implemented.
I dont think the dev said he had Zerocoin integrated in the current code. He said they will launch it in Oct.
Question for you. Your coin is named "ANONCOIN" what anon do you provide? Just wondering.
And as a followup question when you launched "ANONCOIN" did you have working "anon" solution at launch?
And as a followup question when you launched "ANONCOIN" did you have working "anon" solution at launch?
You can choose between TCP or I2P. In difference between TCP an I2P address is quite different.
See getpeerinfo from one of my nodes;
Code:
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Please try figure out my connections location.
So what does this other coin provide as "anon" other than a unfinished ZC implementation?
Question for you. Your coin is named "ANONCOIN" what anon do you provide? Just wondering.
And as a followup question when you launched "ANONCOIN" did you have working "anon" solution at launch?
And as a followup question when you launched "ANONCOIN" did you have working "anon" solution at launch?
"Anoncoin (trading symbol ANC) is a digital cryptocurrency that focuses on privacy and anonymity for its users. Created in June 2013, it is the only coin that provides built in support for both the I2P darknet and Tor that makes it impossible to determine the IP address of the user. Anoncoin will soon be implementing Zerocoin, which will allow users to make transactions that can not be linked in the block chain. With I2P and Zerocoin, Anoncoin will be the first truly anonymous cryptocurrency."
https://wiki.anoncoin.net/Anoncoin
So you are saying that when you launched this anon coin it had fully functioning anon? Is this centralized or decentralized?
Don't remember, it was the first coin that really decided to focus on anonymity, so if it did not come with it from the start that would not be a surprise, though I think it came with initial support for tor. Like all other blockchains ANC is decentralized, or are you seriously asking if tor and I2p is centralized?
I see you are setting up for some kind of comparission here, won't work.
Question for you. Your coin is named "ANONCOIN" what anon do you provide? Just wondering.
And as a followup question when you launched "ANONCOIN" did you have working "anon" solution at launch?
And as a followup question when you launched "ANONCOIN" did you have working "anon" solution at launch?
"Anoncoin (trading symbol ANC) is a digital cryptocurrency that focuses on privacy and anonymity for its users. Created in June 2013, it is the only coin that provides built in support for both the I2P darknet and Tor that makes it impossible to determine the IP address of the user. Anoncoin will soon be implementing Zerocoin, which will allow users to make transactions that can not be linked in the block chain. With I2P and Zerocoin, Anoncoin will be the first truly anonymous cryptocurrency."
https://wiki.anoncoin.net/Anoncoin
So you are saying that when you launched this anon coin it had fully functioning anon? Is this centralized or decentralized?
Question for you. Your coin is named "ANONCOIN" what anon do you provide? Just wondering.
And as a followup question when you launched "ANONCOIN" did you have working "anon" solution at launch?
And as a followup question when you launched "ANONCOIN" did you have working "anon" solution at launch?
"Anoncoin (trading symbol ANC) is a digital cryptocurrency that focuses on privacy and anonymity for its users. Created in June 2013, it is the only coin that provides built in support for both the I2P darknet and Tor that makes it impossible to determine the IP address of the user. Anoncoin will soon be implementing Zerocoin, which will allow users to make transactions that can not be linked in the block chain. With I2P and Zerocoin, Anoncoin will be the first truly anonymous cryptocurrency."
https://wiki.anoncoin.net/Anoncoin
LuigiPablo,
thanks.
by the way, i like your political perspective in this tech part of the world, it made me think a little about the actual usage of an anonymous transaction system like anoncoin. when zerocoin is eventually implemented on top of i2p and tor - then what?
we should be thinking about getting people who really need anoncoin to use it, and grow from the roots.
anoncoin as tool for (with some random examples):
political groups (occupywallstreet.net, occupy.com)
activists (whyweprotest.net)
hacktivists (freejeremy.net, chaos computer club)
pirates (onebigtorrent.org)
culture jammers (adbusters)
alternative media (wearelegionthedocumentary.com)
leakers (wikileaks, freesnowden.is, chelseamanning.org)
geekz,
thanks,
i hope you didnt do to much work on the html, since i made some changes in the code to make it look ok on smartphone screens... well we'll see...
didnt really look myself, but is there any other wallet css files to copy and paste from? like the DRK or other?
i suggest we create a wikipedia article about anoncoin - in our own wiki
with this method we can get it good before we post it on wikipedia, and it will hopefully not be deleted again.
thanks.
by the way, i like your political perspective in this tech part of the world, it made me think a little about the actual usage of an anonymous transaction system like anoncoin. when zerocoin is eventually implemented on top of i2p and tor - then what?
we should be thinking about getting people who really need anoncoin to use it, and grow from the roots.
anoncoin as tool for (with some random examples):
political groups (occupywallstreet.net, occupy.com)
activists (whyweprotest.net)
hacktivists (freejeremy.net, chaos computer club)
pirates (onebigtorrent.org)
culture jammers (adbusters)
alternative media (wearelegionthedocumentary.com)
leakers (wikileaks, freesnowden.is, chelseamanning.org)
geekz,
thanks,
i hope you didnt do to much work on the html, since i made some changes in the code to make it look ok on smartphone screens... well we'll see...
didnt really look myself, but is there any other wallet css files to copy and paste from? like the DRK or other?
i suggest we create a wikipedia article about anoncoin - in our own wiki
with this method we can get it good before we post it on wikipedia, and it will hopefully not be deleted again.
Question for you. Your coin is named "ANONCOIN" what anon do you provide? Just wondering.
And as a followup question when you launched "ANONCOIN" did you have working "anon" solution at launch?
And as a followup question when you launched "ANONCOIN" did you have working "anon" solution at launch?
I've created a few "blank" articles on the wiki
Anonymity of cryptocurrencies: https://wiki.anoncoin.net/Anonymity_of_cryptocurrencies
How to mine Anoncoin: https://wiki.anoncoin.net/How_to_mine_Anoncoin
How to set up Anoncoin to use Tor: https://wiki.anoncoin.net/How_to_setup_Anoncoin_to_use_Tor
I don't mine anoncoin, and I never could get it to work with Tor, so any help from the community would be appreciated!
Anonymity of cryptocurrencies: https://wiki.anoncoin.net/Anonymity_of_cryptocurrencies
How to mine Anoncoin: https://wiki.anoncoin.net/How_to_mine_Anoncoin
How to set up Anoncoin to use Tor: https://wiki.anoncoin.net/How_to_setup_Anoncoin_to_use_Tor
I don't mine anoncoin, and I never could get it to work with Tor, so any help from the community would be appreciated!
Tor guide should lie somewhere in the source code under contrib or docs.
I've created a few "blank" articles on the wiki
Anonymity of cryptocurrencies: https://wiki.anoncoin.net/Anonymity_of_cryptocurrencies
How to mine Anoncoin: https://wiki.anoncoin.net/How_to_mine_Anoncoin
How to set up Anoncoin to use Tor: https://wiki.anoncoin.net/How_to_setup_Anoncoin_to_use_Tor
I don't mine anoncoin, and I never could get it to work with Tor, so any help from the community would be appreciated!
Anonymity of cryptocurrencies: https://wiki.anoncoin.net/Anonymity_of_cryptocurrencies
How to mine Anoncoin: https://wiki.anoncoin.net/How_to_mine_Anoncoin
How to set up Anoncoin to use Tor: https://wiki.anoncoin.net/How_to_setup_Anoncoin_to_use_Tor
I don't mine anoncoin, and I never could get it to work with Tor, so any help from the community would be appreciated!
I've been watching this coin for a while, and with increased interest in recent months.
One thing that I believe that contributes to its overall low popularity is that most people don't understand how Anoncoin's implementation of Zerocoin is different than Zerocash. Hell, Zerocoin is already hard enough to grasp as a concept, let alone a variation of it. This adds to an existing perception that ANC is just a copy/paste coin with no real unique attributes.
If the ANC team worked hard to modify the original Zerocoin proposal to make it absolute trustless through the use of UFOs, you should consider calling it something else and stop this confusion. How about saying ANC is the only coin with "Zerotrust" technology, and then explain somewhere for those who really want to know that "Zerotrust" is a new protocol based on the original Zerocoin paper?
By the way, how is the RSA UFO generation going?
The original zerocoin paper proposed using RSA UFOs for a trustless setup. So there is nothing new here. The only thing new is that Anoncoin will implement the paper of Miers et al., whereas Miers et al are working on other things. One thing that I believe that contributes to its overall low popularity is that most people don't understand how Anoncoin's implementation of Zerocoin is different than Zerocash. Hell, Zerocoin is already hard enough to grasp as a concept, let alone a variation of it. This adds to an existing perception that ANC is just a copy/paste coin with no real unique attributes.
If the ANC team worked hard to modify the original Zerocoin proposal to make it absolute trustless through the use of UFOs, you should consider calling it something else and stop this confusion. How about saying ANC is the only coin with "Zerotrust" technology, and then explain somewhere for those who really want to know that "Zerotrust" is a new protocol based on the original Zerocoin paper?
By the way, how is the RSA UFO generation going?
please provide a short guide how to do the tech part or you will scare most designers
where do we find the css file?
how do we test the css on the wallet?
will the css look the same on all OS or do we have to do different csss?
is it pure css or are there images/other files as well?
Check out the link on this post: https://bitcointalksearch.org/topic/m.8240430
It's Qt's mods of CSS for their own system. Anoncoin can read custom css by using:
style=custom.css where custom.css lies inside the Anoncoin application folder where you find the wallet and the blockchain and the config file itself.
How about "Decentralized Anonymity" or "ZeroMix" to make the benefit of ANC somewhat more specific/clear?
I see new ppl here, that's what I was fighting for : )
For all of you, once again, here is a link of ANC Green Faucet,
made by Skaia,
who is also have this site
https://www.anoncoinbuy.com/
0.1 is not small amount of ANC, again, there will be only 4.2M coins...
Spread the word to the world, we need more ppl, new wallets!
https://faucet.anoncoinbuy.com/
and for faster learn and info, recommend them
https://wiki.anoncoin.net/Anoncoin_Wiki
For all of you, once again, here is a link of ANC Green Faucet,
made by Skaia,
who is also have this site
https://www.anoncoinbuy.com/
0.1 is not small amount of ANC, again, there will be only 4.2M coins...
Spread the word to the world, we need more ppl, new wallets!
https://faucet.anoncoinbuy.com/
and for faster learn and info, recommend them
https://wiki.anoncoin.net/Anoncoin_Wiki
Why does no one concern about the TITAN of DPOS ?
that is really anonymous mechanism.
that is really anonymous mechanism.
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