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can somebody tell me in few words what has happen with this coin?

legendary
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Good summary!
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is it possible to get a reply on this comment summarizing the reason behind the dump,  .. thanks.

its hard to say exactly who dumped

the 30k dump at the top was by thekozitwo
its hard to say who dumped after the delay announcement, hhhzzzz75 claims to have dumped more than 1% some people on here are sure to have dumped quite a bit.

gnosis's did not dump http://ancblockchain.com/a/AU4hFCFZLh https://bitcointalksearch.org/user/gnosis-247341
K1773R did not dump http://ancblockchain.com/a/AK1773RTmR https://bitcointalksearch.org/user/k1773r-48125
Meeh did not dump http://ancblockchain.com/a/AMeehr1Atp https://bitcointalksearch.org/user/meeh-106663
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...and the reason why withdrawals are not working .. thanks.

Hello everybody, i understand many of you are frustrated about missing the deadline, many of you are questioning whether the devs have given up. I had a talk with gnosis who is working very hard. He does not want to spend a lot of time explaining why he did not finish when that time could be used trying to finish sooner Wink

Right Now Gnosis is working on the ZC mint-related logic. The Zerocoin checkpointing however is more work than anticipated.


Within Check-pointing:
1) miners accumulating minted coins into checkpoints (DONE),
2) verifying checkpoints upon receiving a block (IN PROGRESS),
3) storing and loading checkpoints in leveldb
4) fix miner coin accumulation so it doesn't restart from scratch each time there's a new transaction

Gnosis say another day or so for #2

Next: (2-4 days each)
    wallet witness update
    wallet mint logic
    refactor CoinSpend
    RPC create spend + impl.
    store own spend pieces locally
    RPC get seeding spend proofs
    net: seed spends
    net: receive and verify spends
    store received spend pieces
    wallet spend logic
    GUI

I will try to answer as best i can any questions people may have.

I'm glad to here that! I realize breaking new ground is never easy. Something like Zero coin is completely revolutionary and has never been done before, so I am not surprised it is taking longer than expected. Any word about frozen transfers with Cryptsy? Like everybody else I am frustrated, but I still have faith in Gnosis. Tell him I'm with him!


there are 2 problems

1) Due to:
   a) low HashRate
   b) KGW difficulty targeting
   c) periodic participation of large multipools

there are wide oscillations in difficulty causing the blockchain to be "stuck" for several hours at a time without finding a block. This is a serious issue and is being addressed. A new difficulty algorithm is being tested. You can find the new algo in the replace_kgw branch on github.

https://github.com/Anoncoin/anoncoin/tree/replace_kgw

2) Non standard transactions being propagated by Cryptsy. These transaction are more 100kb in size. By default anoncoin clients do not send out transaction of these size and standard miners do not accept them. Cryptsy has refused to acknowledge that they are doing anything wrong. However i have personally had many problems  with Cryptsy including negative balances and delay withdrawals with other coins in the past. As a result of these i do not use Cryptsy for any of my trading. Regardless,

   a) K1773R is running a modified miner that picks up these transactions, this takes a while but will get them processed eventually
   b) I am working on a darknet exchange that will not have this issue
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Please fix the transaction issue. This is most important issue than zerocrash.
Why ANC always stuck while other coin is not.
That is very upset.
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Hello everybody, i understand many of you are frustrated about missing the deadline, many of you are questioning whether the devs have given up. I had a talk with gnosis who is working very hard. He does not want to spend a lot of time explaining why he did not finish when that time could be used trying to finish sooner Wink

Right Now Gnosis is working on the ZC mint-related logic. The Zerocoin checkpointing however is more work than anticipated.


Within Check-pointing:
1) miners accumulating minted coins into checkpoints (DONE),
2) verifying checkpoints upon receiving a block (IN PROGRESS),
3) storing and loading checkpoints in leveldb
4) fix miner coin accumulation so it doesn't restart from scratch each time there's a new transaction

Gnosis say another day or so for #2

Next: (2-4 days each)
    wallet witness update
    wallet mint logic
    refactor CoinSpend
    RPC create spend + impl.
    store own spend pieces locally
    RPC get seeding spend proofs
    net: seed spends
    net: receive and verify spends
    store received spend pieces
    wallet spend logic
    GUI

I will try to answer as best i can any questions people may have.

I'm glad to here that! I realize breaking new ground is never easy. Something like Zero coin is completely revolutionary and has never been done before, so I am not surprised it is taking longer than expected. Any word about frozen transfers with Cryptsy? Like everybody else I am frustrated, but I still have faith in Gnosis. Tell him I'm with him!
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is it possible to get a reply on this comment summarizing the reason behind the dump, and the reason why withdrawals are not working .. thanks.
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That being said sleep deprivation can only last so long. At some point the community should chip in and start a vacation fund for meeh and gnosis after their projects are complete

What is the deposit address where we should send contributions?
https://c1.staticflickr.com/7/6009/5888957495_5cd02c8b67.jpg
legendary
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Hello everybody, i understand many of you are frustrated about missing the deadline, many of you are questioning whether the devs have given up. I had a talk with gnosis who is working very hard. He does not want to spend a lot of time explaining why he did not finish when that time could be used trying to finish sooner Wink

Right Now Gnosis is working on the ZC mint-related logic. The Zerocoin checkpointing however is more work than anticipated.


Within Check-pointing:
1) miners accumulating minted coins into checkpoints (DONE),
2) verifying checkpoints upon receiving a block (IN PROGRESS),
3) storing and loading checkpoints in leveldb
4) fix miner coin accumulation so it doesn't restart from scratch each time there's a new transaction

Gnosis say another day or so for #2

Next: (2-4 days each)
    wallet witness update
    wallet mint logic
    refactor CoinSpend
    RPC create spend + impl.
    store own spend pieces locally
    RPC get seeding spend proofs
    net: seed spends
    net: receive and verify spends
    store received spend pieces
    wallet spend logic
    GUI

I will try to answer as best i can any questions people may have.

Sorry but my faith is gone - will not return. With a team like gnosis/Meeh, whats to stop this happening time and time again. This is not the first and I can guarantee not the last.

And as mutiple people have voiced, the fundemantals of the coin is utterly fucked and being difficulty raped yet the Dev's have not cared for months.

At this point the actual Zerocoin implementation is insignificant to the other major problems this coin faces.
hero member
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Hello everybody, i understand many of you are frustrated about missing the deadline, many of you are questioning whether the devs have given up. I had a talk with gnosis who is working very hard. He does not want to spend a lot of time explaining why he did not finish when that time could be used trying to finish sooner Wink

Right Now Gnosis is working on the ZC mint-related logic. The Zerocoin checkpointing however is more work than anticipated.


Within Check-pointing:
1) miners accumulating minted coins into checkpoints (DONE),
2) verifying checkpoints upon receiving a block (IN PROGRESS),
3) storing and loading checkpoints in leveldb
4) fix miner coin accumulation so it doesn't restart from scratch each time there's a new transaction

Gnosis say another day or so for #2

Next: (2-4 days each)
    wallet witness update
    wallet mint logic
    refactor CoinSpend
    RPC create spend + impl.
    store own spend pieces locally
    RPC get seeding spend proofs
    net: seed spends
    net: receive and verify spends
    store received spend pieces
    wallet spend logic
    GUI

I will try to answer as best i can any questions people may have.
legendary
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Folks dumping this faster than they can dump bitcoins. Impressive
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I have a withdrawal from Cryptsy stuck in the Netherverse as well... If those come through they will be my only ANC. I too have lost faith and dumped...

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This is completely ridiculous.  Zerocoin has missed deadline after deadline and they never give any explanation.  Most of the time they just completely ignore the whole thing or only announce an extension the day before it is supposed to be finished.  Now they finally promise that it will be done October 15th.  Then they extend it by a week which I understand.  But how can they now extend it 2-3 months?! How did they ever think it only needed one more week if they now need up to 3 months?  If they need extensions they should at least be announcing them an appropriate time from the assumed release date! Not a couple days before! It was supposed to be done on the 22nd and on the 20th they say they need 3 more months?


The devs have also done nothing to fix the multiple problems facing the most basic foundation of any cryptocurrency.  At this point in time complete shit coins function better than anoncoin does.  We can't send coins from exchanges and sometimes not even from the qt client.  And then there is the difficulty problem as well.


On the other hand, the transaction I was talking about not confirming finally did today a week later.  And it was from one qt client to another.  But withdrawals from cryptsy are still having problems
legendary
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Cash grab, pure and simple.

50k dumped despite positive news on Oct-14th/Oct-15th i'm sure were dev coins.

legendary
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My last post on bitcointalk.

I yearned for ANC since 2013, I tried to advertise it, I put in a few ideas and a little bit of work, not too much.
I told people how great it will and would be, I made them think it was on testnet on the 15th, I changed their way of thinking and some of the people bought, cuz they liked the idea.

Now I stand a fool - Just as I stood like a fool with Zetacoin.

It won't happen to me again, because this incident made me lose all trust in people on the internet. Even the people who supposedly did work on something and seemed legit even at second sight.

I won't come back to crypto anymore - I lost so much... and I gained too little, and I don't mean that moneywise.

Goodbye.

DUDE. At the most this should be a lesson never to invest in vapor-ware. We all know how hard any kind of project is. 99% of the time plans don't work. Think about kickstarter. It is only projects with prototypes/finished products that actually get any level of seeing to -- because things don't really exist and work until they -- wait for it -- exist and work. History tells us that most scams are not actually scams but delusions within both parties (the victim and the perpetrator). So, on the DEV's part this points to a) naivety, or b) dishonesty. On my/our part it was -- let's face it -- complete and utter naivety.

Another great disturbing factor is the lack of apology. COMPLETE lack, for the publicity/poorly working shell-ware. This means they are a1) sociopaths b2) boys who have a lot to learn about social relationships with human beings.

For the time being I am going with answers a, and b2. I have NOT taken out my shares, because there is nothing left to take.

There are hints that (am I getting this right?) anonCOIN is some kind of NSA potemkin village, designed to fail. To be honest I assumed Anonymous as a whole, in general, reeked of an FSB dezinformatsiya operation (I bought into the coin for ZC, not anon monkeys, see: embarrassing post in which I design a new logo due to anon insignia cringe factor). Granted -- I *may* be prone to romantic spy fantasies, but even so. If this turns out to be some kind of disinformation op -- upon a group I assumed to be a dissinfo op in the first place, then that will be the ultimate fucking joke. Frankly I believe in the clusterfuck theory, a monkey's tea-party if you will , but that's just me.


It was all timed too perfectly. The pump, the announces, the dump. Like a choreographed crypto-dance. I have no faith in their sincerity tbh
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In 4 months Shadow Cash has done more then ANC has done in a year.... If your lookign for a real project with ZK coming very shortly this is your project...

You just forget to mention that ShadowCash is 6 Millions coins mined in two weeks.

The mining was 3 weeks, And is actually alot more mining time than most POS coins give, most are 1 week and under.

Either way it doesn't change what the dev has delivered, what he continues to deliver and openly communicates to the community. The irc is very lively, and its a good community. With only 2% inflation annually, the coin count is kept in decent check. Plus the dev is not anonymous.

At the very least, check it out hop in the irc ask some questions. I'll even tip ya some SDC through irc, can't hurt to check it out for some free coin.

Thanks. I will come on irc when I have time. Good luck for you guys with your coin.

Thanks for having an open mind at least my friend... we are all chasing the same ultimate goal here... Truly Anon Payments
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Yeah. I still have faith at least. But there is only one man who can fix this.

Batman?

LOL
poor guy, what an expensive lesson and he still hasn't learnt a thing
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Moon?
Yeah. I still have faith at least. But there is only one man who can fix this.

Batman?
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My last post on bitcointalk.

I yearned for ANC since 2013, I tried to advertise it, I put in a few ideas and a little bit of work, not too much.
I told people how great it will and would be, I made them think it was on testnet on the 15th, I changed their way of thinking and some of the people bought, cuz they liked the idea.

Now I stand a fool - Just as I stood like a fool with Zetacoin.

It won't happen to me again, because this incident made me lose all trust in people on the internet. Even the people who supposedly did work on something and seemed legit even at second sight.

I won't come back to crypto anymore - I lost so much... and I gained too little, and I don't mean that moneywise.

Goodbye.

Farewell Smokey. Sad to see you leave.

How much you want to bet he will be back? I've seen this happen so often with other coins. He is depressed, and when he has time to think it over a week maybe a month or more he will be back.

Yeah, It's a fucked up situation, but give it a week and things will cool down.

Still awaiting some communication from the devs though.

Yeah. I still have faith at least. But there is only one man who can fix this.
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