OFFICIAL CGMINER mining software thread for linux/win/osx/mips/arm/r-pi 4.11.0 - page 131.

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Quote from: vayvanne on February 05, 2014, 03:38:12 AM

I guess big brother frightened luke setting him reponsible on using cgminer in trojan networks.
I want to inform that 3.12 is not stable on my setup. The question is about temperature and voltage output. 3.7.2 shows 3.23V and 3.10 0.99-1V. One of my BFL LSes regularly goes higher than 82'C and I saw that 3.10 does throttling when this happens. I was expecting the same from 3.7.2 but yesterday I saw 84'C and now I am concerning about overheat.
By the way is there in LSes internal overheat protection? After all the BFL problems with RMAs it is difficult to suppose on them.

What's wrong with 3.12 ? The BFL SCs throttle themselves at higher temps than cgminer does but it usually comes with a very ungraceful period of not responding followed by tons of communication errors and then eventually recovery.

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I guess big brother frightened luke setting him reponsible on using cgminer in trojan networks.
I want to inform that 3.12 is not stable on my setup. The question is about temperature and voltage output. 3.7.2 shows 3.23V and 3.10 0.99-1V. One of my BFL LSes regularly goes higher than 82'C and I saw that 3.10 does throttling when this happens. I was expecting the same from 3.7.2 but yesterday I saw 84'C and now I am concerning about overheat.
By the way is there in LSes internal overheat protection? After all the BFL problems with RMAs it is difficult to suppose on them.

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Quote from: Luke-Jr on February 04, 2014, 06:02:32 PM

For some people, cgminer works better (hot unplug and Avalon dynamic clocking come to mind as cgminer advantages at the moment).
For many others, BFGMiner is the clear winner... and we strive to make it better all the time.

For some, like me, must use both, because some of my hardware is only supported by cgminer, and some of my other hardware works better on bfgminer.

It's especially annoying when hardware guys don't cooperate with either the cgminer or bfgminer teams and just release their own patched, bug-filled version of the miners and call it a day. I mean, I still have to run a terrible patched cgminer to get my HEX16A2 boards to run. Roll Eyes

I have to run a different cgminer instance to support my Bitburner Fury because they didn't bother cooperating with any of the bfgminer folks to get support there either, and it won't run on the same cgminer instance as the HEX16A2 because the Fury uses Avalon timing arguments which aren't compatible with the HEX16A2 and vice-versa. Roll Eyes

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hi dear kolivas

do you removed downlaod link for cgminer 3.7.0 for windows from your site ?

i cant found link for windows in this path :

http://ck.kolivas.org/apps/cgminer/3.7/

Embarrassed

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Quote from: sanyi1977 on February 04, 2014, 11:47:14 PM

Hi!

The antminer U1 device with the latest software cgminer 3.12.0 can overclock with he icarus option?

Not yet, no.

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Hi!

The antminer U1 device with the latest software cgminer 3.12.0 can overclock with he icarus option?

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Quote from: rgr_rgr on February 04, 2014, 04:48:43 PM

And you could disable pools

I think you can't disable the last active pool.

Yeah it's anecdotic, just an attempt to put the topic back on rails, although I know many of you are eating popcorn while reading it Cheesy

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Quote from: Dribble on February 04, 2014, 07:23:23 PM

I tried your version when mining on windows and my antivirus (Bitdefender) wanted no part of it.

Oh well, nothing I can do about malware "antivirus software".

Quote from: Dribble on February 04, 2014, 07:23:23 PM

So I have no opinion whether or not it works. I settled on CGminer till I got the raspberry going. Then the instructions for the Raspberry were provided for CGminer. So here I am in the CGminer thread.

If it works and you're perfectly happy with it, great.
If it's lacking for you in any way, you might try BFGMiner to see if it already has your needs addressed.
If neither do, it never hurts to post a feature request to both.

Quote from: Dribble on February 04, 2014, 07:23:23 PM

My unmentionable "alt coins" are also chugging along on 3.7.2 without complaints.

I always advise against running unmaintained software.
Whether you go with cgminer, BFGMiner, Linux, Windows, or whatever, always use something receiving developer attention for security patches.

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Quote from: Luke-Jr on February 04, 2014, 06:02:32 PM

Quote from: Askit2 on February 04, 2014, 04:29:11 PM

Not centralized way of looking at anything (ignoring your typo). There was a project named cgminer. It existed yours as bfgminer didn't.

BFGMiner is merely a continuation of the same project under a new name.

Quote from: Askit2 on February 04, 2014, 04:29:11 PM

The credit as such goes not to just you but the whole team that worked on cgminer at the time. Yes con and kano and lJr get credit in my mind.

Great, sounds like you're the exception here who understands that.

Quote from: Askit2 on February 04, 2014, 04:29:11 PM

That being said the split off is where bfgminer started.

No, the split off was Con/Kano deciding they would no longer collaborate.
If any project started forking off at this point, it was the new cgminer.
One could argue it was simply a two-way split of the same project, but to say new-cgminer is a continuation and BFGMiner "merely" a fork is unreasonable since BFGMiner just continued on as things were prior to the split.

In any case, how one prefers to label these things is much less relevant than what works best, which is ultimately the proper metric to be using when you choose your mining software.
For some people, cgminer works better (hot unplug and Avalon dynamic clocking come to mind as cgminer advantages at the moment).
For many others, BFGMiner is the clear winner... and we strive to make it better all the time.

I tried your version when mining on windows and my antivirus (Bitdefender) wanted no part of it. So I have no opinion whether or not it works. I settled on CGminer till I got the raspberry going. Then the instructions for the Raspberry were provided for CGminer. So here I am in the CGminer thread. My unmentionable "alt coins" are also chugging along on 3.7.2 without complaints. So do we really need to hear what works best?

Peace. Cool

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Quote from: Luke-Jr on February 03, 2014, 04:53:05 PM

Quote from: Askit2 on February 03, 2014, 05:07:24 AM

Odd the one doing his own thing worries about team work.....

I was left "doing my own thing" because Con and Kano were unwilling to continue collaborating.
...

Sigh - at least consider posting the truth when you post.

Firstly, some info about the CLC altcoin he shutdown:

Code:

Luke-Jr CLC Alt-chain IRC #cgminer Feb 14 2012
14:10 < abracadabra> http://bitcoinmedia.com/warning-btc-e-compromised/
...
14:15 < kanoi> only had 13BTC there but moved it anyway :P
...
14:16 < luke-jr> BTC-E banned me for "spamming" them with deposits :<
14:16 < kanoi> sounds reasonable :P
14:17 < kanoi> they don't charge on deposit - so you were abusing that?
14:20 < luke-jr> nah, I was just depositing every time I found a CLC block

Now, his 2 commits that with which he makes glorious claim over all of cgminer:
https://github.com/ckolivas/cgminer/commit/845961af66bfb8c2ff57e9a1b32f260b2c4c9372
https://github.com/ckolivas/cgminer/commit/a4d1fe1e5d116851d45624496327445db9660ff0
A lot of that is shuffling the then current code around also.
It seems in his mind, that when you join a team and change something when you commit code to the project, that suddenly makes you the owner of the project.
... or as I said before:
https://bitcointalksearch.org/topic/m.4870369

Now the actual truth of the split has been well documented.
Firstly here's Douchebag lying again about it as usual and me correcting it:
https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=28402.msg1477922;topicseen#msg1477922

Then of course, there was the Douchebag withholding code coz he said it was too hard to do but did it and only used it himself, to improve the performance of the BFL FPGA, that Con later did in cgminer properly
https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=28402.msg1000946;topicseen#msg1000946

An of course a post about the details of the split:
https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=28402.msg997424;topicseen#msg997424

Now, what's missing from all this?
Well the fact that to scale to the amount of work needed to support all these high hash rate asics, required all sorts of changes under the hood.
... that Con did ...

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Quote from: Luke-Jr on February 04, 2014, 06:02:32 PM

For many others, BFGMiner is the clear winner... and we strive to make it better all the time.

And thank god for that. Thank you for supporting the community, Luke.

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Quote from: Askit2 on February 04, 2014, 04:29:11 PM

Not centralized way of looking at anything (ignoring your typo). There was a project named cgminer. It existed yours as bfgminer didn't.

BFGMiner is merely a continuation of the same project under a new name.

Quote from: Askit2 on February 04, 2014, 04:29:11 PM

The credit as such goes not to just you but the whole team that worked on cgminer at the time. Yes con and kano and lJr get credit in my mind.

Great, sounds like you're the exception here who understands that.

Quote from: Askit2 on February 04, 2014, 04:29:11 PM

That being said the split off is where bfgminer started.

No, the split off was Con/Kano deciding they would no longer collaborate.
If any project started forking off at this point, it was the new cgminer.
One could argue it was simply a two-way split of the same project, but to say new-cgminer is a continuation and BFGMiner "merely" a fork is unreasonable since BFGMiner just continued on as things were prior to the split.

In any case, how one prefers to label these things is much less relevant than what works best, which is ultimately the proper metric to be using when you choose your mining software.
For some people, cgminer works better (hot unplug and Avalon dynamic clocking come to mind as cgminer advantages at the moment).
For many others, BFGMiner is the clear winner... and we strive to make it better all the time.

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Quote from: rgr_rgr on February 04, 2014, 04:59:36 PM

A USB miner costs about $20. What does a GPU cost?
Maybe you should calm down and check reality. I don't like the decision to abandon GPU and scrypt. But the small guy is still able to mine. With a USB stick he mines faster and cheaper than with GPU. So if you want to argue, please use arguments.

"The small guy is able to mine". I think you missed the point.

The small guy's mining with a USB stick is meaningless in the face of massive centralized mining operations. Kano supports massive centralized mining and for this reason alone you should adopt a different piece of software. Or perhaps you like the idea of centralized banking, like Kano does. If so, support him. If you are against decentralization adopt another mining program.

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Who created a scam coin? Specifics please.

The only scam I see here is Kano's support of centralized mining which is exactly what we all came here to avoid. Thank god there are better supported miners than cgminer or we'd all be doomed to Kano's world.

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Quote from: Viceroy on February 04, 2014, 05:34:12 PM

Who created a scam coin?

You had better watch your mouth, mustache pete, that is libel where I come from and it's a criminal offense to commit libel against a Coloradan. And kindly post in English, not your native mafioso.

You created a scamcoin.
They are off topic.

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Who created a scam coin?

You had better watch your mouth, mustache pete, that is libel where I come from and it's a criminal offense to commit libel against a Coloradan. And kindly post in English, not your native mafioso.

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Quote from: rgr_rgr on February 04, 2014, 04:59:36 PM

Quote from: ?? on ??

Once upon a time we were all here, working together, trying to create a decentralized currency. Unfortunately that idea has been lost by Kano and company as they no longer support the individual miners that were the early adopters and creators of all the cryptocurrency.

Instead they are only supporting groups with massive infrastructures and massive capital.

A USB miner costs about $20. What does a GPU cost?
Maybe you should calm down and check reality. I don't like the decision to abandon GPU and scrypt. But the small guy is still able to mine. With a USB stick he mines faster and cheaper than with GPU. So if you want to argue, please use arguments.

You missed what actually caused all this.

He created a scrypt scamcoin, like every other one created every so often, and was upset that someone decided to stop altcoin support and GPU support in cgminer.

GPU support is complete nonsense in bitcoin mining (as you've pointed out) so that's got nothing to do with it.

So what he is really complaining about is altcoins - which is even off topic in here Tongue

(Yes his post can be requested to be deleted - it is off topic)

lol at the crap he posted above - it's so funny that some one delusional go running to the delusion king himself

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Quote from: ?? on ??

Once upon a time we were all here, working together, trying to create a decentralized currency. Unfortunately that idea has been lost by Kano and company as they no longer support the individual miners that were the early adopters and creators of all the cryptocurrency.

Instead they are only supporting groups with massive infrastructures and massive capital.

A USB miner costs about $20. What does a GPU cost?
Maybe you should calm down and check reality. I don't like the decision to abandon GPU and scrypt. But the small guy is still able to mine. With a USB stick he mines faster and cheaper than with GPU. So if you want to argue, please use arguments.

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You could disable devices. And you could disable pools. Both "pause" mining. Does this fit for you?

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Silly question and I see it back on a 2011 post as a feature request, but is there a way to pause the client? Control+C (as well as Q) obviously is a kill command.

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