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Topic: OFFICIAL CGMINER mining software thread for linux/win/osx/mips/arm/r-pi 4.11.0 - page 637. (Read 5806103 times)

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I now have one 5850 running cgminer 2.2.7 and another on 2.3.0, on the same engine/mem clocks. I'll be counting the accepted shares on the pool they are connected to and see if there is a significant difference. Cgminer 2.2.7 is reporting ~400MH/s and 2.3.0 is reporting ~320MH/s atm. At first glance, it seems they are submitting the same amount of shares (39 vs 40), so this could just be a "cosmetic" change in cgminer 2.3.0.  Grin
That, unfortunately, does not make sense... and this hashrate drop is more than a little disturbing since there is no real valid explanation for it.

edit: it's so big it's like one has an intensity set and the other is running dynamic.

Yeah, you're right, it was just wishful thinking... The one on 2.3.0 has a U:4.22 vs 2.2.7 with U:5.35. Both are running at I:9.
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I now have one 5850 running cgminer 2.2.7 and another on 2.3.0, on the same engine/mem clocks. I'll be counting the accepted shares on the pool they are connected to and see if there is a significant difference. Cgminer 2.2.7 is reporting ~400MH/s and 2.3.0 is reporting ~320MH/s atm. At first glance, it seems they are submitting the same amount of shares (39 vs 40), so this could just be a "cosmetic" change in cgminer 2.3.0.  Grin
That, unfortunately, does not make sense... and this hashrate drop is more than a little disturbing since there is no real valid explanation for it.

edit: it's so big it's like one has an intensity set and the other is running dynamic.
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I now have one 5850 running cgminer 2.2.7 and another on 2.3.0, on the same engine/mem clocks. I'll be counting the accepted shares on the pool they are connected to and see if there is a significant difference. Cgminer 2.2.7 is reporting ~400MH/s and 2.3.0 is reporting ~320MH/s atm. At first glance, it seems they are submitting the same amount of shares (39 vs 40), so this could just be a "cosmetic" change in cgminer 2.3.0.  Grin
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The cgminer window closes really fast on Windows, you really need to put an #ifdef win getch() at the end of execution, since piping the output doesn't work either Tongue

Anyway, by a screen grab, it shows Platform version: OpenCL 1.1 AMD-APP-SDK-v2.5 (793.1), with 1 platform device (GPU 0 ATI Radeon HD 5800 Series), and my settings for engine (970) and mem (150).

The default kernel is phatk120222Cypressv2w128l4.
Now that's a serious groaner since the phatk kernel is only trivially changed it should not perform any differently  Huh Try -v 2 -w 256 since you're grossly underclocking memory.

If you start it from a dos prompt window the window won't close...

V2w256 is what I always use to get the ~400MH/s, but it seems to hover around ~320MH/s now. Gonna let it run more time and see if the stats change.

I did start it from a dos prompt, but it creates a new (console) window and closes it after it's done. Piping the output like "cgminer -n > report.txt" doesn't work either. Windows really sucks on these small things :S
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The cgminer window closes really fast on Windows, you really need to put an #ifdef win getch() at the end of execution, since piping the output doesn't work either Tongue

Anyway, by a screen grab, it shows Platform version: OpenCL 1.1 AMD-APP-SDK-v2.5 (793.1), with 1 platform device (GPU 0 ATI Radeon HD 5800 Series), and my settings for engine (970) and mem (150).

The default kernel is phatk120222Cypressv2w128l4.
Now that's a serious groaner since the phatk kernel is only trivially changed it should not perform any differently  Huh Try -v 2 -w 256 since you're grossly underclocking memory.

If you start it from a dos prompt window the window won't close...
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The cgminer window closes really fast on Windows, you really need to put an #ifdef win getch() at the end of execution, since piping the output doesn't work either Tongue

Anyway, by a screen grab, it shows Platform version: OpenCL 1.1 AMD-APP-SDK-v2.5 (793.1), with 1 platform device (GPU 0 ATI Radeon HD 5800 Series), and my settings for engine (970) and mem (150).

The default kernel is phatk120222Cypressv2w128l4.
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ck, if you can give me a hint as to how to compile a 32-bit version on a 64-bit linux machine, I can provide cypress kernels for l4 along with l8 from SDK 2.1.
Cannot do. You can only make 32 bit kernels from running on 32 bit OS I'm afraid.
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ck, if you can give me a hint as to how to compile a 32-bit version on a 64-bit linux machine, I can provide cypress kernels for l4 along with l8 from SDK 2.1.
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Nope, no dance, jumping back to 2.2.7 immediately gets back to ~400MH/s (I always unpack each cgminer version to a fresh folder, no leftovers from prev vers).
Unless you can say "Nope, no dance, I don't have SDK 2.6 installed" or "Nope, no dance, jumping back to a fresh install of 2.2.7 that compiles a fresh kernel immediately gets back to ~400MH/s" you are probably doing the dance.  Most people doing the dance don't know it.
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New version: Version 2.3.0 - February 23, 2012

Thanks for the update mate, but this version doesn't compile a bitalign kernel for my cards (5850's), it's the non-bitalign kernel which is much slower (~320MH/s vs ~400MH/s).

Copying over the bin from the previous version and renaming it from "phatk120213Cypressbitalignv2w256long4" to "phatk120222Cypressv2w256l4" doesn't work also (HW failures).
Woah now there is nothing that should stop it compiling a bitalign kernel. It just stops CALLING it bitalign. You're not doing the SDK 2.6 dance are you?

Yeah, I just read the changelog carefully. Nope, no dance, jumping back to 2.2.7 immediately gets back to ~400MH/s (I always unpack each cgminer version to a fresh folder, no leftovers from prev vers). I'll try the other kernels to see how they go. Tongue
What does:
cgminer -n
report? And what kernel .bin file is being generated for you by default?
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New version: Version 2.3.0 - February 23, 2012

Thanks for the update mate, but this version doesn't compile a bitalign kernel for my cards (5850's), it's the non-bitalign kernel which is much slower (~320MH/s vs ~400MH/s).

Copying over the bin from the previous version and renaming it from "phatk120213Cypressbitalignv2w256long4" to "phatk120222Cypressv2w256l4" doesn't work also (HW failures).
Woah now there is nothing that should stop it compiling a bitalign kernel. It just stops CALLING it bitalign. You're not doing the SDK 2.6 dance are you?

Yeah, I just read the changelog carefully. Nope, no dance, jumping back to 2.2.7 immediately gets back to ~400MH/s (I always unpack each cgminer version to a fresh folder, no leftovers from prev vers). I'll try the other kernels to see how they go. Tongue
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Ruu \o/
New version: Version 2.3.0 - February 23, 2012

Thanks for the update mate, but this version doesn't compile a bitalign kernel for my cards (5850's), it's the non-bitalign kernel which is much slower (~320MH/s vs ~400MH/s).

Copying over the bin from the previous version and renaming it from "phatk120213Cypressbitalignv2w256long4" to "phatk120222Cypressv2w256l4" doesn't work also (HW failures).
Woah now there is nothing that should stop it compiling a bitalign kernel. It just stops CALLING it bitalign. You're not doing the SDK 2.6 dance are you?
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New version: Version 2.3.0 - February 23, 2012

Thanks for the update mate, but this version doesn't compile a bitalign kernel for my cards (5850's), it's the non-bitalign kernel which is much slower (~320MH/s vs ~400MH/s).

Copying over the bin from the previous version and renaming it from "phatk120213Cypressbitalignv2w256long4" to "phatk120222Cypressv2w256l4" doesn't work also (HW failures).
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legendary
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Ruu \o/
New version: Version 2.3.0 - February 23, 2012

Human readable summary:
New kernels across the board, including Diablo kernel. Selection is carefully designed to be optimal by default according to device and SDK combination.
Much better coping with SDK 2.6 so it no longer warns excessively about it, but note it's STILL faster with most cards on earlier SDKs.
Fixed the huge dip in hashrate with all the extra longpolls.
Fixed the number of extra longpolls during pool switch.
Hopefully fixed the device OFF problem.
Added Icarus FPGA support.
Can set kernel, vector and worksize per device now with -k diablo,phatk,phatk,poclbm -v 2,2,2,1 -w 128,256,256,64 for example
Hashrate at startup should be more meaningful sooner.
New --benchmark feature to test hashrate. Leave it running for ~3 mins to get reliable results, then quit and check the summary! Great for testing multiple same devices with different kernels, vectors etc. Produces NO HASHES so don't leave it running  Wink
Engine clock speed should ramp up instantly after a period of network outage which drops the profile to low power.
New API commands for pool management.
Fixes to API code to shut down cleanly.


Full changelog:
- Consider extra longpoll work items as staged_extra so as to make sure we queue
more work if queueing regular work items as longpolls.
- Use diablo kernel on all future SDKs for Tahiti and set preferred vector width
to 1 on poclbm kernel only.
- Explicitly type the constants in diakgcn kernel as uint, to be in line with
poclbm kernel.
- Reset all hash counters at the same time as resetting start times to get
accurate hashrates on exiting which is mandatory for benchmarking.
- Report thread out before it starts to avoid being flagged as sick when waiting
for the first work item.
- Don't disable and re-enable devices as they may recover and in the meantime
have their status set to OFF.
- API new commands enablepool and disablepool (version already incremented)
- Tolerate new-format temperature readings for bitforce
- Modify cgminer.c pool control to allow API to call it
- Bugfix: Fix BitFORCE driver memory leak in debug logging
- Extra byte was being unused in poclbm leading to failure on some platforms.
- Explicitly type the constants in poclbm kernel as uint.
- Don't save 'include' when saving the configuration
- Allow configuration file to include another recursively
- Use the SDK and hardware information to choose good performing default
kernels.
- Move phatk kernel to offset vector based nonce bases as well.
- Add a --benchmark feature which works on a fake item indefinitely to compare
device performance without any server or networking influence.
- Allow writing of multiple worksizes to the configuration file.
- Allow writing of multiple vector sizes to the configuration file.
- Allow writing of multiple kernels to the configuration file.
- Allow multiple different kernels to be chosen per device.
- Allow the worksize to be set per-device.
- Allow different vectors to be set per device.
- If we're well below the target temperature, increase gpu engine speed back to
maximum in case we have gotten lost between profiles during an idle period.
- We should be setting the value of fan_optimal, not its address.
- As all kernels will be new versions it's an opportunity to change the .bin
format and make it simpler. Specifying bitalign is redundant and long can be l.
- Use any() in kernel output code.
- Put the nonce for each vector offset in advance, avoiding one extra addition
in the kernel.
- Reset times after all mining threads are started to make estimating hashrates
easier at startup.
- Bugfix: allow no-exec (NX) stack
- Fix minor warning.
- fix the bitforce.c code style follow 1TBS
- fix icarus.c compile warning
- small changes to speedup no vec for AMD 898.1 OCL runtime
- Update licensing to GPL V3.
- Reset the longpoll flag after it's been used once to prevent it restarting
work again.
- Begin import of DiabloMiner kernel.
- Modify API debug messages to say API instead of DBG
- When API shuts down cgminer don't kill itself
- Don't make rolled work from the longpoll be seen as other longpoll work items.
- API add 'privileged' command so can verify access level
- Set the lp_sent variable under lock since there will almost always be a race
on setting this variable, potentially leading to multiple LPs being sent out.
- API restrict access to all non display commands by default
- Update API version to 1.2 for new 'Log Interval'
- API add --log Interval to 'config' reply
- --api-allow special case 0/0 means all
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Beyond Imagination
I'm interested in AMDOverdriveCtrl  you talked about,
I downloaded the package and find out that it is a GUI software,
I wonder if it can be used remotely to control clock/voltage?

AMdOverdriveCtrl can't change anything that cgminer can't.  cgminer already gives you remote access to clock/voltage/fan/inensity/etc.
Cheesy Straight from my script:

14) An OC option:
 This is no longer needed since cgminer 2.* includes OC, however:

I use AMDoverdriveCtrl for 2 reason:

1. I want cgminer to focus on the mining without caring about the GPU management, it will be much easy to trouble shooting when something went wrong

2. The fan speed control of AMDoverdriveCtrl is more convenient to use. In cgminer, the fan speed keeps shooting up and down, lagging the real change in GPU temperature

Actually I did build cgminer once without ADL_SDK, but then I'm not able to see the GPU info, especially when doing ssh into the machine. So the function  of monitoring the GPU is still very useful
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The original point was cgminer choking when the pool goes up and down frequently/multiple times per minute. I understand that the pool is in beta, I just want to improve the problem of cgminer getting hung up when the server runs into problems.
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it is a fairly well known one on here but running in beta right now (hence the server problems). I am being vague due to the inflammatory nature of > 100% pps on this forum in the past and don't want to derail this thread.

Does it start with G Cheesy ?

I think some people are having loads of issues with cgminer and that pool you are talking about so I think this is pretty on topic.

Maybe there is some networking / share submitting bug in cgminer that is not in phoenix that only affects pool G ?
I mine on pool "G" with the aforementioned ~140% pps  Grin  Yes, it is in beta.  Yes my cgminer will fall back to my BTC Guild often.  However, it tends to fall back gracefully.  Not sure which problems others are having?  The developer of pool "G" is making changes to his servers all the time.  He announces them in the thread with pretty clear warnings that the service will be up and down....BECAUSE IT IS BETA!!!111one
legendary
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This is not OK.
Just wondering... is there an issue with the way cgminer caches work?
I don't know what goes on inside, but one plausable explanation to what I'm seeing is:
CGM gets work from all pools.
When Primary pool goes down, work starts on the secondary.
But CGM doesn't get new work, uses what is has, which is old.
Old work submitted, and promptly rejected.

Alternatively:
When Primary pool goes down, work from that pool is submitted to the secondary pool.

Any of these scenarios occur? Because my secondary and tertiary pools end up with a greater number of rejected shares, than accepted.
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Hopefully the simple solution is enough, coz I can't see a more complex version ever being implemented (since it would require a major redesign of how configuration settings are handled within cgminer)

We'll see if he allows it in or not Smiley

3 sent for 2 half solutions. Thanks!
3 BTC received - thank you very much Smiley
ckolivas also accepted the pull request so it's in the master git also.
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it is a fairly well known one on here but running in beta right now (hence the server problems). I am being vague due to the inflammatory nature of > 100% pps on this forum in the past and don't want to derail this thread.

Does it start with G Cheesy ?

I think some people are having loads of issues with cgminer and that pool you are talking about so I think this is pretty on topic.

Maybe there is some networking / share submitting bug in cgminer that is not in phoenix that only affects pool G ?
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