Questions (happy to tip with $NTBC, NoteBlockChain, just post your address:
1. Does BTC version allow for multiple pools to be set up ie for fail over? (exists on the LTC version)
2. Is there a donation option ? (exists on LTC version) or is this being taken automatically on BTC version?
3. Remote controlling the Raspberry pi4 , can we use VNC viewer? seems SSH is supported natively only. Usually VNC is included with debian versions on Linux.
4. When node complete (should take 2-3 days), if I shut down, will Node still be in place (will it update blockchain from where left off).
5. What can we do with Node? Any advantage for newbie or are we just helping the network in the background
Recommendations:
- multiple pools enabled
- allocation of time / hash to different pools
- we can measure performance on pools
- VNC viewer included in FutureBitOS
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Topic: Official FutureBit Apollo BTC Software/Image and Support thread - page 113. (Read 52205 times)
August 28, 2021, 05:04:32 AM
August 28, 2021, 04:38:22 AM
I started up my standalone and add-on miners a few days ago. Flawless the first two days (1st on Eco, 2nd on Balanced) except for the following:
1) Error rate is 20%+
2) Yesterday and today(Day 3 and Day 4) while set to Balanced, one or both of my add-ons pooped out and didn't come back, although the main continued to mine. There was no error I could find explaining why or what happened. Temps have been around 60c
If it matters I'm running them off of a 750w EVGA G3 power supply
1) Error rate is 20%+
2) Yesterday and today(Day 3 and Day 4) while set to Balanced, one or both of my add-ons pooped out and didn't come back, although the main continued to mine. There was no error I could find explaining why or what happened. Temps have been around 60c
If it matters I'm running them off of a 750w EVGA G3 power supply
Yes it does matter. 750W is imho just under-sized for three units consuming 200-250W each. Keep in mind that regular ATX PSUs are not designed to run at full load 24/7, possibly resulting in power stability issues on your devices, excess heat, louder fan noise - and consequently will wear out sooner. So it's always a good idea to calculate wattage sizing with a decent margin (+25%)
August 28, 2021, 03:06:57 AM
I simply popped out the SSD and I have no problems - hashing away, never stopping. The burden of hosting a node does absolutely nothing for me - no benefit at all. Just happily mining SHA-256 crypto, stuffing my wallet!
I removed my ssd too as I already run full BTC and LND wallets/nodes via RASPIBLITZ on an 8 gig Pi 4.
My controller and two slaves have been working like trojans on 'balanced mode' for weeks with no problems.
I was just wondering if I can install RASPIBLITZ on the Full BTC Apollo package? on Ubuntu OS.
I'm trying to figure out how to extract value out of having a BTC full node.
Would like to use the Node as a Lightning Network Node and earn up to 25% of the transactions verified by node\miner.
I have the full version
- 1 Full Apollo package - Desktop Class Controller with 512 GB NVMe Drive and 200W PSU
- 2 USB controlled Hasboards
IN Turbo mode i'm @ 9 Th/s @ 686 watts at the wall.
August 27, 2021, 07:33:32 PM
I started up my standalone and add-on miners a few days ago. Flawless the first two days (1st on Eco, 2nd on Balanced) except for the following:
1) Error rate is 20%+
2) Yesterday and today(Day 3 and Day 4) while set to Balanced, one or both of my add-ons pooped out and didn't come back, although the main continued to mine. There was no error I could find explaining why or what happened. Temps have been around 60c
If it matters I'm running them off of a 750w EVGA G3 power supply
1) Error rate is 20%+
2) Yesterday and today(Day 3 and Day 4) while set to Balanced, one or both of my add-ons pooped out and didn't come back, although the main continued to mine. There was no error I could find explaining why or what happened. Temps have been around 60c
If it matters I'm running them off of a 750w EVGA G3 power supply
August 27, 2021, 06:50:24 PM
corsair makes a very good psu for this.
let me find link.
edit bad link https://www.corsair.com/us/en/Categories/Products/Power-Supply-Units/SF-Series™-80-PLUS-Gold-Power-Supplies/p/CP-9020104-NA
the 450 watt model for 1 unit.
small quiet long warranty
the 600 watt is also good for two units.
try this for 450
https://www.newegg.com/corsair-sf-series-sf450-450w/p/N82E16817139156?
try this link for 600
https://www.newegg.com/corsair-sf-series-sf600-600w/p/N82E16817139155
I ran two ltc apollo with the 600 model
let me find link.
edit bad link https://www.corsair.com/us/en/Categories/Products/Power-Supply-Units/SF-Series™-80-PLUS-Gold-Power-Supplies/p/CP-9020104-NA
the 450 watt model for 1 unit.
small quiet long warranty
the 600 watt is also good for two units.
try this for 450
https://www.newegg.com/corsair-sf-series-sf450-450w/p/N82E16817139156?
try this link for 600
https://www.newegg.com/corsair-sf-series-sf600-600w/p/N82E16817139155
I ran two ltc apollo with the 600 model
August 27, 2021, 05:54:38 PM
That's perfectly fine, using a 600W bequiet PSU here. (A PSU's efficiency sweet spot is around 50-60%, so consider that for your choice)
Maybe if you buy a 50% efficiency PSU in 1970
It is true that PSU's are most efficient at 50% load, but the variation is only 2-3% so you won't even notice it.
Most PSU's are rated at 80+ efficiency which means that a power supply is at least 80% efficient at 20%, 50%, and 100% loads.
Yes there are different 80+ ratings (bronze, silver, gold, platinum titanium) but they are just variations on the theme.
Code:
Power Delivery 115 V internal non-redundant 230 V EU internal non-redundant
Percentage of rated load 10% 20% 50% 100% 10% 20% 50% 100%
80 Plus 80% 80% 80% 82% 85% 82%
80 Plus Bronze 82% 85% 82% 85% 88% 85%
80 Plus Silver 85% 88% 85% 87% 90% 87%
80 Plus Gold 87% 90% 87% 90% 92% 89%
80 Plus Platinum 90% 92% 89% 92% 94% 90%
80 Plus Titanium 90% 92% 94% 90% 90% 94% 96% 94%
Percentage of rated load 10% 20% 50% 100% 10% 20% 50% 100%
80 Plus 80% 80% 80% 82% 85% 82%
80 Plus Bronze 82% 85% 82% 85% 88% 85%
80 Plus Silver 85% 88% 85% 87% 90% 87%
80 Plus Gold 87% 90% 87% 90% 92% 89%
80 Plus Platinum 90% 92% 89% 92% 94% 90%
80 Plus Titanium 90% 92% 94% 90% 90% 94% 96% 94%
August 27, 2021, 04:27:19 PM
Thanks for reply ... I think I get it
so my "username" . "worker name"
Happy to tip you in $NTBC if you have a wallet Note Block Chain
Do you have any idea why we can only have one pool?
LTC model you can set up multiple pools, for fail over, or just easy switching
You need to make sure your username on the apollo matches your username on the pool. you can add a worker extension so.... "username.worker"
To change the pool details I going to assume you havent clicked the "SAVE" button at the top once youve changed it. If you dont it will revert back to the last saved settings.
so my "username" . "worker name"
Happy to tip you in $NTBC if you have a wallet Note Block Chain
Do you have any idea why we can only have one pool?
LTC model you can set up multiple pools, for fail over, or just easy switching
Hi, I'm just getting started.
Not the easiest to set up the BTC version. The LTC Apollo much easier (I have one also).
I seem to be mining on slushpool.
for URL eu.stratum.slushpool.com:3333
I have a user name, but it does not show on slush pool.
QUESTION: on the LTC version I can have multiple pools (great for testing performance; testing set up and spill over)
- BTC version you can only have one pool set up. Why?
QUESTION: on LTC version it is easy to delete your pool set up and start again
- BTC version I can't delete, the pool seems to be always there on reboot
- seems to be always connected to slush pool so I can't delete my worker on slush pool
- slushpool says [auto] disabled and workername offline under "state" but it is mining ...
Thank you
Not the easiest to set up the BTC version. The LTC Apollo much easier (I have one also).
I seem to be mining on slushpool.
for URL eu.stratum.slushpool.com:3333
I have a user name, but it does not show on slush pool.
QUESTION: on the LTC version I can have multiple pools (great for testing performance; testing set up and spill over)
- BTC version you can only have one pool set up. Why?
QUESTION: on LTC version it is easy to delete your pool set up and start again
- BTC version I can't delete, the pool seems to be always there on reboot
- seems to be always connected to slush pool so I can't delete my worker on slush pool
- slushpool says [auto] disabled and workername offline under "state" but it is mining ...
Thank you
You need to make sure your username on the apollo matches your username on the pool. you can add a worker extension so.... "username.worker"
To change the pool details I going to assume you havent clicked the "SAVE" button at the top once youve changed it. If you dont it will revert back to the last saved settings.
August 27, 2021, 07:52:13 AM
Hi, I'm just getting started.
Not the easiest to set up the BTC version. The LTC Apollo much easier (I have one also).
I seem to be mining on slushpool.
for URL eu.stratum.slushpool.com:3333
I have a user name, but it does not show on slush pool.
QUESTION: on the LTC version I can have multiple pools (great for testing performance; testing set up and spill over)
- BTC version you can only have one pool set up. Why?
QUESTION: on LTC version it is easy to delete your pool set up and start again
- BTC version I can't delete, the pool seems to be always there on reboot
- seems to be always connected to slush pool so I can't delete my worker on slush pool
- slushpool says [auto] disabled and workername offline under "state" but it is mining ...
Thank you
Not the easiest to set up the BTC version. The LTC Apollo much easier (I have one also).
I seem to be mining on slushpool.
for URL eu.stratum.slushpool.com:3333
I have a user name, but it does not show on slush pool.
QUESTION: on the LTC version I can have multiple pools (great for testing performance; testing set up and spill over)
- BTC version you can only have one pool set up. Why?
QUESTION: on LTC version it is easy to delete your pool set up and start again
- BTC version I can't delete, the pool seems to be always there on reboot
- seems to be always connected to slush pool so I can't delete my worker on slush pool
- slushpool says [auto] disabled and workername offline under "state" but it is mining ...
Thank you
You need to make sure your username on the apollo matches your username on the pool. you can add a worker extension so.... "username.worker"
To change the pool details I going to assume you havent clicked the "SAVE" button at the top once youve changed it. If you dont it will revert back to the last saved settings.
August 27, 2021, 03:50:44 AM
additional question
in pool set up, pools give worker names
- we only have user name in setting up the apollo btc (should we put the worker name here?)
in pool set up, pools give worker names
- we only have user name in setting up the apollo btc (should we put the worker name here?)
August 27, 2021, 03:19:38 AM
Hi, I'm just getting started.
Not the easiest to set up the BTC version. The LTC Apollo much easier (I have one also).
I seem to be mining on slushpool.
for URL eu.stratum.slushpool.com:3333
I have a user name, but it does not show on slush pool.
QUESTION: on the LTC version I can have multiple pools (great for testing performance; testing set up and spill over)
- BTC version you can only have one pool set up. Why?
QUESTION: on LTC version it is easy to delete your pool set up and start again
- BTC version I can't delete, the pool seems to be always there on reboot
- seems to be always connected to slush pool so I can't delete my worker on slush pool
- slushpool says [auto] disabled and workername offline under "state" but it is mining ...
Thank you
Not the easiest to set up the BTC version. The LTC Apollo much easier (I have one also).
I seem to be mining on slushpool.
for URL eu.stratum.slushpool.com:3333
I have a user name, but it does not show on slush pool.
QUESTION: on the LTC version I can have multiple pools (great for testing performance; testing set up and spill over)
- BTC version you can only have one pool set up. Why?
QUESTION: on LTC version it is easy to delete your pool set up and start again
- BTC version I can't delete, the pool seems to be always there on reboot
- seems to be always connected to slush pool so I can't delete my worker on slush pool
- slushpool says [auto] disabled and workername offline under "state" but it is mining ...
Thank you
August 26, 2021, 08:42:09 PM
It can run in turbo and is rated for that, but there is little headroom, OCP will kick in at about 210-220 watts.
Next gen PSU will be able to run at ~300 watts.
Next gen PSU will be able to run at ~300 watts.
Great to hear, thanks a lot! In case I want to get something more powerful right away though, regular ATX PSU's come to mind at first. Anything wrong with a single rail Seasonic PSU? I should be able to just connect a PCIe cable to it and use it for the Apollo right?
That's perfectly fine, using a 600W bequiet PSU here. (A PSU's efficiency sweet spot is around 50-60%, so consider that for your choice)
That is an interesting metric I was unaware of.
I am running two units off of a very old 735w single rail unit.
So, just abut dead on that 50% load area.
Ill have to put a meter on the plug and see what kind of power its actually drawing from the wall compared to the futurebit dash.
August 26, 2021, 01:44:13 PM
It can run in turbo and is rated for that, but there is little headroom, OCP will kick in at about 210-220 watts.
Next gen PSU will be able to run at ~300 watts.
Next gen PSU will be able to run at ~300 watts.
Great to hear, thanks a lot! In case I want to get something more powerful right away though, regular ATX PSU's come to mind at first. Anything wrong with a single rail Seasonic PSU? I should be able to just connect a PCIe cable to it and use it for the Apollo right?
That's perfectly fine, using a 600W bequiet PSU here. (A PSU's efficiency sweet spot is around 50-60%, so consider that for your choice)
August 26, 2021, 10:49:28 AM
Hi,
I haven't received any reply, so asking again:
Any news on standalone apollo-miner binary? It's been now 3 months since the release. Miner binary crashes a lot for everyone. GUI full package uses the same binary, so problems exist for everyone. Also miner not stopping mining and using power full power when no connection to the pool, it should be idling. Furthermore, Mining Rig rentals pool is not supported, because of "::: ROLLING_MASK ::: Not supported" error (cgminer works just fine). These two problems have been reported on github, but has not been acknowledged. For standalone miner users, Raspberry Pi binaries were promised, still no sight of it. I can't use Apollo miner on perfectly fine and supported (by manufacturer) Raspberry Pi 1, zero, and other devices.
I know GUI is important, but no reason to delay fundamental part of Apollo which is miner software?
When can we expect update to apollo-miner? Thanks.
Considering that your request is getting constantly ignored, along with other feature requests like solo mining, I tend to believe there won't be any updates available in the foreseeable future.I haven't received any reply, so asking again:
Any news on standalone apollo-miner binary? It's been now 3 months since the release. Miner binary crashes a lot for everyone. GUI full package uses the same binary, so problems exist for everyone. Also miner not stopping mining and using power full power when no connection to the pool, it should be idling. Furthermore, Mining Rig rentals pool is not supported, because of "::: ROLLING_MASK ::: Not supported" error (cgminer works just fine). These two problems have been reported on github, but has not been acknowledged. For standalone miner users, Raspberry Pi binaries were promised, still no sight of it. I can't use Apollo miner on perfectly fine and supported (by manufacturer) Raspberry Pi 1, zero, and other devices.
I know GUI is important, but no reason to delay fundamental part of Apollo which is miner software?
When can we expect update to apollo-miner? Thanks.
They are not ignored, we have other priorities. Lots of software work will be complete in the fall, most of it is being worked on now.
I just started to get worried about this since there was no feedback at all until now. August 26, 2021, 10:30:10 AM
Hi,
I haven't received any reply, so asking again:
Any news on standalone apollo-miner binary? It's been now 3 months since the release. Miner binary crashes a lot for everyone. GUI full package uses the same binary, so problems exist for everyone. Also miner not stopping mining and using power full power when no connection to the pool, it should be idling. Furthermore, Mining Rig rentals pool is not supported, because of "::: ROLLING_MASK ::: Not supported" error (cgminer works just fine). These two problems have been reported on github, but has not been acknowledged. For standalone miner users, Raspberry Pi binaries were promised, still no sight of it. I can't use Apollo miner on perfectly fine and supported (by manufacturer) Raspberry Pi 1, zero, and other devices.
I know GUI is important, but no reason to delay fundamental part of Apollo which is miner software?
When can we expect update to apollo-miner? Thanks.
Considering that your request is getting constantly ignored, along with other feature requests like solo mining, I tend to believe there won't be any updates available in the foreseeable future.I haven't received any reply, so asking again:
Any news on standalone apollo-miner binary? It's been now 3 months since the release. Miner binary crashes a lot for everyone. GUI full package uses the same binary, so problems exist for everyone. Also miner not stopping mining and using power full power when no connection to the pool, it should be idling. Furthermore, Mining Rig rentals pool is not supported, because of "::: ROLLING_MASK ::: Not supported" error (cgminer works just fine). These two problems have been reported on github, but has not been acknowledged. For standalone miner users, Raspberry Pi binaries were promised, still no sight of it. I can't use Apollo miner on perfectly fine and supported (by manufacturer) Raspberry Pi 1, zero, and other devices.
I know GUI is important, but no reason to delay fundamental part of Apollo which is miner software?
When can we expect update to apollo-miner? Thanks.
They are not ignored, we have other priorities. Lots of software work will be complete in the fall, most of it is being worked on now.
August 26, 2021, 10:28:26 AM
Better to not run at 100% of the PSU capacity though. I run turbo but use an off the shelf 500W PSU.
Also correct, yes, maybe FutureBit has more info about the actual rating of their PSU's - maybe the product pages just say 200W but there's a little headroom built in still?
Edit: From product pics it seems the absolute max that can be pulled from it, is indeed 16,7A, which is 200.4W...
Maybe suggestion to FutureBit to upgrade their PSUs to e.g. 220W units for the next iteration
I also always over-spec PSU's when building PCs for example, it's really common practice and they also run more efficient at around 70-80%, I think.
It can run in turbo and is rated for that, but there is little headroom, OCP will kick in at about 210-220 watts.
Next gen PSU will be able to run at ~300 watts.
August 26, 2021, 09:29:33 AM
Hi,
I haven't received any reply, so asking again:
Any news on standalone apollo-miner binary? It's been now 3 months since the release. Miner binary crashes a lot for everyone. GUI full package uses the same binary, so problems exist for everyone. Also miner not stopping mining and using power full power when no connection to the pool, it should be idling. Furthermore, Mining Rig rentals pool is not supported, because of "::: ROLLING_MASK ::: Not supported" error (cgminer works just fine). These two problems have been reported on github, but has not been acknowledged. For standalone miner users, Raspberry Pi binaries were promised, still no sight of it. I can't use Apollo miner on perfectly fine and supported (by manufacturer) Raspberry Pi 1, zero, and other devices.
I know GUI is important, but no reason to delay fundamental part of Apollo which is miner software?
When can we expect update to apollo-miner? Thanks.
Considering that your request is getting constantly ignored, along with other feature requests like solo mining, I tend to believe there won't be any updates available in the foreseeable future. I haven't received any reply, so asking again:
Any news on standalone apollo-miner binary? It's been now 3 months since the release. Miner binary crashes a lot for everyone. GUI full package uses the same binary, so problems exist for everyone. Also miner not stopping mining and using power full power when no connection to the pool, it should be idling. Furthermore, Mining Rig rentals pool is not supported, because of "::: ROLLING_MASK ::: Not supported" error (cgminer works just fine). These two problems have been reported on github, but has not been acknowledged. For standalone miner users, Raspberry Pi binaries were promised, still no sight of it. I can't use Apollo miner on perfectly fine and supported (by manufacturer) Raspberry Pi 1, zero, and other devices.
I know GUI is important, but no reason to delay fundamental part of Apollo which is miner software?
When can we expect update to apollo-miner? Thanks.
August 26, 2021, 08:31:36 AM
Do the stock PSUs work with Turbo mode? What has everyone experience been?
They should! Turbo mode is 200W, eco is 125W - the PSU is rated for the full 200W.Better to not run at 100% of the PSU capacity though. I run turbo but use an off the shelf 500W PSU.
August 26, 2021, 07:31:22 AM
Finally tried out some of the other modes on the Apollos in the last few days.
Had a very delightful and surprising discovery.
In Eco mode.... I was getting 2 th/s @ 76w per th/s
in Balanced mode.. I get 2.5 th/s @ 64w per th/s
So, not sure why but balanced mode actually offers better wat per wat performance for me.
Also, it was a more substantial hashrate increase than I expected too, with 25% performance gains over eco.
So, if your out there just chillin on ECO with your miners, I recommend trying out the other settings and seeing what you get.
Thanks for the suggestion. Mine also similar results but I also noticed less errors. My second miner was showing more errors than the first miner. But changed to balanced and they now about the same. Had a very delightful and surprising discovery.
In Eco mode.... I was getting 2 th/s @ 76w per th/s
in Balanced mode.. I get 2.5 th/s @ 64w per th/s
So, not sure why but balanced mode actually offers better wat per wat performance for me.
Also, it was a more substantial hashrate increase than I expected too, with 25% performance gains over eco.
So, if your out there just chillin on ECO with your miners, I recommend trying out the other settings and seeing what you get.
Do the stock PSUs work with Turbo mode? What has everyone experience been?
August 25, 2021, 11:56:55 AM
Finally tried out some of the other modes on the Apollos in the last few days.
Had a very delightful and surprising discovery.
In Eco mode.... I was getting 2 th/s @ 76w per th/s
in Balanced mode.. I get 2.5 th/s @ 64w per th/s
So, not sure why but balanced mode actually offers better wat per wat performance for me.
Also, it was a more substantial hashrate increase than I expected too, with 25% performance gains over eco.
So, if your out there just chillin on ECO with your miners, I recommend trying out the other settings and seeing what you get.
Thanks for the suggestion. Mine also similar results but I also noticed less errors. My second miner was showing more errors than the first miner. But changed to balanced and they now about the same. Had a very delightful and surprising discovery.
In Eco mode.... I was getting 2 th/s @ 76w per th/s
in Balanced mode.. I get 2.5 th/s @ 64w per th/s
So, not sure why but balanced mode actually offers better wat per wat performance for me.
Also, it was a more substantial hashrate increase than I expected too, with 25% performance gains over eco.
So, if your out there just chillin on ECO with your miners, I recommend trying out the other settings and seeing what you get.
August 25, 2021, 11:27:42 AM
Finally tried out some of the other modes on the Apollos in the last few days.
Had a very delightful and surprising discovery.
In Eco mode.... I was getting 2 th/s @ 76w per th/s
in Balanced mode.. I get 2.5 th/s @ 64w per th/s
So, not sure why but balanced mode actually offers better wat per wat performance for me.
Also, it was a more substantial hashrate increase than I expected too, with 25% performance gains over eco.
So, if your out there just chillin on ECO with your miners, I recommend trying out the other settings and seeing what you get.
Had a very delightful and surprising discovery.
In Eco mode.... I was getting 2 th/s @ 76w per th/s
in Balanced mode.. I get 2.5 th/s @ 64w per th/s
So, not sure why but balanced mode actually offers better wat per wat performance for me.
Also, it was a more substantial hashrate increase than I expected too, with 25% performance gains over eco.
So, if your out there just chillin on ECO with your miners, I recommend trying out the other settings and seeing what you get.
Same here. There isnt much in it between ECO and Balanced. I think ECO was more for keeping noise down. Balanced is the best for me really 2.5Th at 66w Th/s. ECO was around 62w-ish for 2Th.
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