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Topic: Official FutureBit Apollo BTC Software/Image and Support thread - page 12. (Read 46992 times)

newbie
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I tried a "sudo apt update" after I had sucessfully completed a "sudo apt upgrade" via SSH using Putty.
Unfortunetlay, with the latest firmware version v2.0.5 (MCU2) I am getting the following error message:

Code:
Err:10 http://deb.volian.org/volian scar InRelease
  Clearsigned file isn't valid, got 'NOSPLIT' (does the network require authentication?)
Hit:9 http://netcup.armbian.com/apt jammy InRelease
Hit:8 https://paulcarroty.gitlab.io/vscodium-deb-rpm-repo/debs vscodium InRelease
Reading package lists... Done
E: Failed to fetch http://deb.volian.org/volian/dists/scar/InRelease  Clearsigned file isn't valid, got 'NOSPLIT' (does the network require authentication?)
E: The repository 'http://deb.volian.org/volian scar InRelease' is no longer signed.
N: Updating from such a repository can't be done securely, and is therefore disabled by default.
N: See apt-secure(8) manpage for repository creation and user configuration details.

Can you maybe explain to me, how I can solve this issue? Thanks for your support!
legendary
Activity: 2162
Merit: 1401
Futurebit team has confirmed on e-mail:

Quote
Hi the USB version is designed to be shutdown via the power switch. If you are using another computer and not an apollo there is no way to shut it down via USB as this functionality is only possible with the full node unit.
Quote
Hi standard units controlled with a third part pc can only be shutdown with the power switch in the back.

FutureBit Team
[email protected]

Had I known this, I would never buy this device. Now, I have to use 24/7 or not at all. Cannot temperature or time control it. Once internet goes down or want it to idle, it just continues to burn full power forever.

It's an issue with USB reset on windows devices for the new Apollo. Have not been able to do much testing on windows but if there are apps or a "reset" command you can send over the COM port it should turn it off.

Other option is to use a smart plug and shut it on/off that way if you cant physically access it.
legendary
Activity: 1202
Merit: 1181
Looks like I fried my Apollo, I'm after advice on how to diagnose if it's worth trying to repair it.

This is what happened before I let the magic smoke out:

I dug out the unused Apollo to use it for a bit of heating. Powered it up with a monitor, running Armbian on the OrangePi and starting the miner via the sudo ./start etc etc command prompt in a terminal, all worked well.

Then I plugged it into a 2kW PSU but I used cables that came from a different (650W) PSU. Nothing seemed to happen except it smelled a bit funny....

The I used the cables that are the correct ones for the 2kW PSU, and now the Apollos fan turns on, the all lights are out and it's dead as a door-nail.


I already disconnected the OrangePi and tried to power the miner via laptop and USB, but same result, fan spins, nothing else happens.


I find it hard to believe that they make cables labelled PCIe on one end, with an 8 pin connector at the other end that will it into different PSUs that use different pin layouts at the PSU end, but that seems to be what happened. Bastards!

Any idea what part of the Apollo would have fried due to this and if it can be repaired?

And is it possible that the OrangePi may have survived the 12V getting connected to the wrong pins?


Not all PSU's are pinned out the same (stupid I know) Sounds like you've shoved 12v into somewhere you shouldn't have
member
Activity: 203
Merit: 37
Looks like I fried my Apollo, I'm after advice on how to diagnose if it's worth trying to repair it.

This is what happened before I let the magic smoke out:

I dug out the unused Apollo to use it for a bit of heating. Powered it up with a monitor, running Armbian on the OrangePi and starting the miner via the sudo ./start etc etc command prompt in a terminal, all worked well.

Then I plugged it into a 2kW PSU but I used cables that came from a different (650W) PSU. Nothing seemed to happen except it smelled a bit funny....

The I used the cables that are the correct ones for the 2kW PSU, and now the Apollos fan turns on, the all lights are out and it's dead as a door-nail.


I already disconnected the OrangePi and tried to power the miner via laptop and USB, but same result, fan spins, nothing else happens.


I find it hard to believe that they make cables labelled PCIe on one end, with an 8 pin connector at the other end that will it into different PSUs that use different pin layouts at the PSU end, but that seems to be what happened. Bastards!

Any idea what part of the Apollo would have fried due to this and if it can be repaired?

And is it possible that the OrangePi may have survived the 12V getting connected to the wrong pins?
newbie
Activity: 7
Merit: 1
I'm still running my 1st generation apollo BTC, mostly for the node and solo pool functionality. I'm wondering if I turn the miner off and keep the node on, will the solo pool still work if I connect other miners to it? I have a few bitaxe miners that i've successfully connected to my apollo solo pool, and if i shut off the miner on my apollo BTC, the Solo Mining Page just says "Miner is Offline" and does not show any stats. My Bitaxe miners are still running, and according to their logs, they are receiving work and submitting shares that are getting accepted by the pool.

If the solo pool is still operating even when my apollo btc miner is turned off and node is on, then a helpful update to the apollo OS 2 would be to continue to display the solo pool stats page.

Our futurebit miners may age and become less efficient with their hashpower, but they are still very useful as a full node and solo pool.

Update: from John on X @jstefanop1:
”pool is still running on the backend...this is an issue with our front end stat engine that is tied with the miner, so when you turn it off the front end stats for solo pool disable as well.

Will be fixed in the 2.1 release”
https://x.com/jstefanop1/status/1821248823249007088?s=46&t=yqiPADlCRlmpYPKvZpyfrA
newbie
Activity: 7
Merit: 1
I'm still running my 1st generation apollo BTC, mostly for the node and solo pool functionality. I'm wondering if I turn the miner off and keep the node on, will the solo pool still work if I connect other miners to it? I have a few bitaxe miners that i've successfully connected to my apollo solo pool, and if i shut off the miner on my apollo BTC, the Solo Mining Page just says "Miner is Offline" and does not show any stats. My Bitaxe miners are still running, and according to their logs, they are receiving work and submitting shares that are getting accepted by the pool.

If the solo pool is still operating even when my apollo btc miner is turned off and node is on, then a helpful update to the apollo OS 2 would be to continue to display the solo pool stats page.

Our futurebit miners may age and become less efficient with their hashpower, but they are still very useful as a full node and solo pool.
newbie
Activity: 7
Merit: 1
Solo Mining is ON and

What do these numbers mean?

Best share: 964,790,372
Accepted shares: 1,016,905,108

Miner Page shows: 9.40 TH/s
SOLO Mining Page shows: 7.42 TH/s

the screenshot: https://ibb.co/wS8bnpf

PS:I still cannot upload images in my posts Sad

Best Share is the highest difficulty your miners have solved. If the difficulty exceeds the network difficulty, then you have solved a block and could earn the block reward upon successfully broadcasting your result to the network and after another miner adds a block to yours. Accepted shares is how many shares of work your miners have submitted to your solo pool. If you have multiple miners connected to your solo pool, they will display in the Solo Mining users section and their respective shares submitted and best share result will show in that section.
full member
Activity: 933
Merit: 175
Futurebit team has confirmed on e-mail:

Quote
Hi the USB version is designed to be shutdown via the power switch. If you are using another computer and not an apollo there is no way to shut it down via USB as this functionality is only possible with the full node unit.
Quote
Hi standard units controlled with a third part pc can only be shutdown with the power switch in the back.

FutureBit Team
[email protected]

Had I known this, I would never buy this device. Now, I have to use 24/7 or not at all. Cannot temperature or time control it. Once internet goes down or want it to idle, it just continues to burn full power forever.
hero member
Activity: 1008
Merit: 960

Thanks, where I can find this binary? Is it only in full node image file? And no x86_64?

Correct and here https://github.com/jstefanop/apolloapi-v2/tree/main/backend/apollo-miner/bin

Isn't the miner v2 for x86_64 just here?

https://github.com/jstefanop/Apollo-Miner-Binaries/tree/main/Apollo%20II/linux-x86_64

Or are you looking for something else?

By the way, jstefanop, the binaries for v1 are still not updated:

Quote from: ./apollo-miner --help
apollo-miner 09bb0bf 2021-11-22, msp ver 0xd166
newbie
Activity: 13
Merit: 1

Thanks, where I can find this binary? Is it only in full node image file? And no x86_64?

Correct and here https://github.com/jstefanop/apolloapi-v2/tree/main/backend/apollo-miner/bin
full member
Activity: 933
Merit: 175
That would be awesome if you could. Even better would be that functionality baked into the UI  Tongue

So far, I have received no response from Futurebit team. I am still waiting for their reply how can I make Apollo II stop burning power and go idle.

They use an apollo-helper binary to reset the device but I can't find it for x86_64 on Github.

Code:
./apollo-helper --help
Usage: apollo-helper [OPTIONS] --sink

Options:
  -s, --sink
  -b, --baud
  -r, --reset         Reset board
      --verify-reset  Verify reset (wait answer from board after reset)
  -h, --help          Print help
  -V, --version       Print version

Thanks, where I can find this binary? Is it only in full node image file? And no x86_64?
newbie
Activity: 20
Merit: 0
Solo Mining is ON and

What do these numbers mean?

Best share: 964,790,372
Accepted shares: 1,016,905,108

Miner Page shows: 9.40 TH/s
SOLO Mining Page shows: 7.42 TH/s

the screenshot: https://ibb.co/wS8bnpf

PS:I still cannot upload images in my posts Sad
newbie
Activity: 7
Merit: 0
Hey everyone.

Also I was wondering whether there shouldn't be field or some way to show when one finds block! Otherwise it could take long time before you realize you actually found one.

Thanks


I was also wondering about that and think it would be a neat little feature. Was also wondering whether anybody has actually successfully mined a block on their own Apollo II node and short of checking their wallet how did they know? I've been debating whether to point my entire arsenal at the Apollo II node or keep a few pieces split between other (pool/solo) destinations. I apologize if this has been asked before but I'm just wandering the road to wisdom - lol.

Cheers!
newbie
Activity: 13
Merit: 1
That would be awesome if you could. Even better would be that functionality baked into the UI  Tongue

So far, I have received no response from Futurebit team. I am still waiting for their reply how can I make Apollo II stop burning power and go idle.

They use an apollo-helper binary to reset the device but I can't find it for x86_64 on Github.

Code:
./apollo-helper --help
Usage: apollo-helper [OPTIONS] --sink

Options:
  -s, --sink
  -b, --baud
  -r, --reset         Reset board
      --verify-reset  Verify reset (wait answer from board after reset)
  -h, --help          Print help
  -V, --version       Print version
full member
Activity: 933
Merit: 175
That would be awesome if you could. Even better would be that functionality baked into the UI  Tongue

So far, I have received no response from Futurebit team. I am still waiting for their reply how can I make Apollo II stop burning power and go idle.
newbie
Activity: 10
Merit: 0
Hey jstefanop,

Since late June I've been emailing you guys back and forth about getting a replacement fan for my original Apollo. I gave your support my order #, address, etc. and your support said they would create an invoice for me to get a new fan. I've been ghosted for almost a month waiting for a reply. I literally had the Apollo 2 in my cart just waiting to pull the trigger, but since my fan on my original is nearly dead, I won't do it until I can get that ready to have the Apollo 2 hooked up to it.

I'll send out another reminder email today (this will be the 2nd follow up) so please keep an eye out.
legendary
Activity: 1202
Merit: 1181
I'm curious if anyone has figured out a way to schedule their Apollo 2 to change modes based on time of day.  Would be helpful to switch off during peak hours and step up to turbo overnight.  I know it's not in the OS but my next step was to explore scripting something to do this. 

I scripted this functionality in bash, and currently using it for Apollo I, along with temperature control via external USB thermometer. It's been working like that for last two years. One miner is in a glass greenhouse, where it activates mostly at night/evening times. Another at home, also temperature controlled.

However, I am worried with current state of Apollo II - it does not stop burning power and mining even mining program is closed. I asked about this  a few posts up in the thread, as well as via customer support on Futurebit page. No reply yet. I hope they will be able to tell me how to stop Apollo II miner. If this is done, then I will be happy to share my scripts here with you and the community.

That would be awesome if you could. Even better would be that functionality baked into the UI  Tongue
newbie
Activity: 20
Merit: 0
May be a silly question but is with the solo mining feature, is there a way to confirm that you are actually mining (other than what the GUI shows you)? 
That is exactly my point! I also want to look under hood. I want to see valid blocks mined in solo with Apollo II, and this can be demonstrated using regtest.
I have no doubt Apollo II does mine into pools, but there is no validation for solo.
jr. member
Activity: 122
Merit: 4
May be a silly question but is with the solo mining feature, is there a way to confirm that you are actually mining (other than what the GUI shows you)? 
full member
Activity: 933
Merit: 175
I'm curious if anyone has figured out a way to schedule their Apollo 2 to change modes based on time of day.  Would be helpful to switch off during peak hours and step up to turbo overnight.  I know it's not in the OS but my next step was to explore scripting something to do this. 

I scripted this functionality in bash, and currently using it for Apollo I, along with temperature control via external USB thermometer. It's been working like that for last two years. One miner is in a glass greenhouse, where it activates mostly at night/evening times. Another at home, also temperature controlled.

However, I am worried with current state of Apollo II - it does not stop burning power and mining even mining program is closed. I asked about this  a few posts up in the thread, as well as via customer support on Futurebit page. No reply yet. I hope they will be able to tell me how to stop Apollo II miner. If this is done, then I will be happy to share my scripts here with you and the community.
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