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Topic: Official FutureBit Apollo BTC Software/Image and Support thread - page 123. (Read 52205 times)

legendary
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I kind of disagree with this. The point of running a node is to be able to broadcast your own transactions without using a 3rd party. Whenever you use a client like trezor wallet suite or the ledger app, you are using their node to transmit your bitcoin on the block chain. You are essentially trusting someone else to be honest with your bitcoin
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And running this device as a node lets you do exactly that. So will running any BTC node on any other device, even a RasPi. (thanks for bringing that up, edited my post to reflect that).
The miner portion is just that - a miner - and has nothing (directly) to do with anything regarding what you describe.

And of course being a miner, it has to be pointed at a pool, be it one you setup yourself (and linked to the Apollo node if you don't care about the likelihood of losing blocks due to orphans) or one of the existing ones such as KanoPool, -ck solo pool, ViaBTC, etc.

re: setting it up, um, have you checked the 1st post in this thread?  Wink
   
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What's the point of anyone mining from a FutureBit node if there is no reward? What purpose is there to secure something you aren't rewarded for? Why waste electricity, time, bandwidth, hassles for just a good feeling?
You miss the whole point of the system. As has already been said, the node is just there to help keep the blockchain widely distributed and secure. Period.

Unless you have an excellent connection to the BTC network - preferably one giving fast connections to networks used by the big pools - even if you find a block using your node for (solo) mining would just most likely result in you having orphans issues (and losing) because of slow propagation time to the other pools. The miner is the main part but - since there is controller running it that most of the time has a lot of free clock cycles available, might as well use it as node as well...

I kind of disagree with this. The point of running a node is to be able to broadcast your own transactions without using a 3rd party. Whenever you use a client like trezor wallet suite or the ledger app, you are using their node to transmit your bitcoin on the block chain. You are essentially trusting someone else to be honest with your bitcoin.

while running a node does benefit the network because you seed block data to other nodes, verify other transactions & "listen" for attacks, there is a benefit to running one yourself and using the data you verified yourself to transmit a transaction. you don't need to trust anyone to send a transaction. in an emergency such as a nation state attack, running your own node would be the only way to 100% broadcast a transaction with privacy & assurance.

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That said - does anyone know how to actually install bitcoin core on this thing? I am new to linux/ubuntu and not very familiar with how to trouble shoot things. I tried installing Bitcoin Core but didn't really have any luck It would be nice to be able to use this device to broadcast transactions using my local node's data.

I have never installed or used Bitcoin Core or sent a transaction using my own node. If anyone can point me in the right direction, I would definitely make a DIY video & post it on YT so others can do so as well.
legendary
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If all nodes gave no rewards no one would be mining.
Aside from P2P ones, nodes do not issue rewards -- they are ONLY repositories for storing blockchain data (edit: and provide you with direct access to the blockchain when using a hard wallet like Trezor et al). Period. Virtually NO ONE 'mines to a node' for a myriad of reasons. Even solo miners mine to a pool that runs (pool) software which in-turn uses a local node for its data.
Again you miss the advertised point of the system: The node is only to support the blockchain.
The miner is intended to be pointed to a pool - not itself.
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If someone is mining on the Apollo BTC node and by some miracle they (or you) find a block - are they (or you) rewarded somehow? Does the node software on the Apollo somehow reward the finder?

No the node is just part of the bitcoin network and helps secure it.

What's the point of anyone mining from a FutureBit node if there is no reward? What purpose is there to secure something you aren't rewarded for? Why waste electricity, time, bandwidth, hassles for just a good feeling?

Didn't think so - that's why I just use it as a SHA256 miner - dump the node.

If everyone thought like this we'd have nothing to mine

If all nodes gave no rewards no one would be mining. Doubt if anyone connected to a FutureBit BTC node realize they're wasting their energy and time because they'll get nothing.
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If someone is mining on the Apollo BTC node and by some miracle they (or you) find a block - are they (or you) rewarded somehow? Does the node software on the Apollo somehow reward the finder?

No the node is just part of the bitcoin network and helps secure it.

What's the point of anyone mining from a FutureBit node if there is no reward? What purpose is there to secure something you aren't rewarded for? Why waste electricity, time, bandwidth, hassles for just a good feeling?

Didn't think so - that's why I just use it as a SHA256 miner - dump the node.

If everyone thought like this we'd have nothing to mine
legendary
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What's the point of anyone mining from a FutureBit node if there is no reward? What purpose is there to secure something you aren't rewarded for? Why waste electricity, time, bandwidth, hassles for just a good feeling?
You miss the whole point of the system. As has already been said, the node is just there to help keep the blockchain widely distributed and secure. (edit: and provide you with direct access to the blockchain when using a hard wallet like Trezor et al). Period.

Unless you have an excellent connection to the BTC network - preferably one giving fast connections to networks used by the big pools - even if you find a block using your node for (solo) mining would just most likely result in you having orphans issues (and losing) because of slow propagation time to the other pools. The miner is the main part but - since there is controller running it that most of the time has a lot of free clock cycles available, might as well use it as node as well...
jr. member
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If someone is mining on the Apollo BTC node and by some miracle they (or you) find a block - are they (or you) rewarded somehow? Does the node software on the Apollo somehow reward the finder?

No the node is just part of the bitcoin network and helps secure it.

What's the point of anyone mining from a FutureBit node if there is no reward? What purpose is there to secure something you aren't rewarded for? Why waste electricity, time, bandwidth, hassles for just a good feeling?

Didn't think so - that's why I just use it as a SHA256 miner - dump the node.
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If someone is mining on the Apollo BTC node and by some miracle they (or you) find a block - are they (or you) rewarded somehow? Does the node software on the Apollo somehow reward the finder?

No the node is just part of the bitcoin network and helps secure it.
jr. member
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If someone is mining on the Apollo BTC node and by some miracle they (or you) find a block - are they (or you) rewarded somehow? Does the node software on the Apollo somehow reward the finder?

nope
jr. member
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If someone is mining on the Apollo BTC node and by some miracle they (or you) find a block - are they (or you) rewarded somehow? Does the node software on the Apollo somehow reward the finder?
jr. member
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1st option Connector:PH2.0-2Pin; Lead wire: UL Type (+): Red wire ; (-): Black wire. similar to original

i installed Cooling Fan Size (L x W x H): 30 x 30 x 7 mm. Connector: 2 pin (female), Rated Voltage: DC 5V.
assembled on one screw. just keep the same wiring type (+): Red wire ; (-) in connection to wire from sbc gpio.
hero member
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What spec is the fan connector on the SBC fan?


5V DC Brushless Cooling Fan with 2 Pin Connector 25mm x 25mm x 7mm

Yea I know what the fan is as ive replaced it. But took a vamble on what looked like the right connector. The listing didnt say. Now I’d like to know so I can make up my own fly lead with GPIO leads instead.  I know its JST but not sure if its 1.25, 2 or 2.5
legendary
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What spec is the fan connector on the SBC fan?

I just cut the connector off and soldered it to my new fan
jr. member
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What spec is the fan connector on the SBC fan?


5V DC Brushless Cooling Fan with 2 Pin Connector 25mm x 25mm x 7mm
hero member
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What spec is the fan connector on the SBC fan?
jr. member
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hero member
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jstefanop, any news on the update?

check twitter it's says 1-2 days

I’m not on twitter but thanks for the heads up.
jr. member
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jstefanop, any news on the update?

check twitter it's says 1-2 days
hero member
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jstefanop, any news on the update?
jr. member
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Yeah, cable is fine now.

But another issue I have with Rpi4.

I have Rpi4 Umbrel LN running with BTC ssd full node connected to RPi usb3 port.

When I connect to the second usb3 port BTC miner,

I am getting:ls: cannot access '/dev/ttyACM*': No such file or directory

But when I disconnect BTC ssd usb3 and keep just BTC miner

umbrel@umbrel:~ $ ls /dev/ttyACM*
/dev/ttyACM0

Somehow when I use rpi4  with 2 usb ports. one for ssd full node and another it does not work.

I have another Rpi running LTC moon 2, but its 32 bit. It would be nice if ver for 32 bit will be available.

Thank you

Check your power adapter.   Many times with RPi's there is not enough power to power all of the IO ports.   

I use the Canakit RPi  3.5Amp adapter on mine that is running two USB ports with LTC Moonlanders and Gekko hubs on each. 

Also you should disable with Wifi power management if you are using Wifi - I have seen issues with some mining apps with Wifi that goes into different power states.



Yep, second this! Especially with the RPi4, power is VERY important. Make sure it's got a power adapter with enough amps to supply it or you'll run into all sorts of issues

With new adapter for  3000Amp designed for RPi4 does not work, just tried.
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