Topic: Official FutureBit Apollo BTC Software/Image and Support thread - page 122. (Read 52205 times)
Yea we are pushing release to everyone later today. You should see a yellow update button in the UI.
I've been personally testing the update and had issues while upgrading. We managed to sort it all out then it required me to start from scratch with an SD card reflash but since then it's been working perfectly. Update fixes the stat display issue and the restart/shutdown buttons not working in the webUI. I'd imagine release will be imminent as the kinks seem to have been worked out now
Also just saw you posted the link to the dual fan RPi heatsink, please let me know the outcome of that and if it fits... Definitely a route I'd go down
Glad to hear its gone ok. Hopefully it wont require everyone to start from scratch.
Nah it won't; it was only due to a botched update that I had to start from scratch again. The full OTA update should be pretty much seamless
I've been personally testing the update and had issues while upgrading. We managed to sort it all out then it required me to start from scratch with an SD card reflash but since then it's been working perfectly. Update fixes the stat display issue and the restart/shutdown buttons not working in the webUI. I'd imagine release will be imminent as the kinks seem to have been worked out now
Also just saw you posted the link to the dual fan RPi heatsink, please let me know the outcome of that and if it fits... Definitely a route I'd go down
Glad to hear its gone ok. Hopefully it wont require everyone to start from scratch.
Yep as soon as it arrives and I have some time I will attempt to get it fitted. I’m hoping its just a flat bottom heatsink and hasn't got any specific indents for chips. Either way I have various options for fans coming so plenty to try out.
See above from July 23, 2021, 09:46:03 PM some updates related pilot group who wish to receive update 
Dude, do me a favour, stop posting useless info. I follow this thread closely and I’m fully aware about the pilot for people to do “beta” testing before it goes OTA. It’s been a couple of days and thought it worthwhile asking if there were any updates i.e. did the pilot testing go ok? Any setbacks etc.
I've been personally testing the update and had issues while upgrading. We managed to sort it all out then it required me to start from scratch with an SD card reflash but since then it's been working perfectly. Update fixes the stat display issue and the restart/shutdown buttons not working in the webUI. I'd imagine release will be imminent as the kinks seem to have been worked out now
Also just saw you posted the link to the dual fan RPi heatsink, please let me know the outcome of that and if it fits... Definitely a route I'd go down
See above from July 23, 2021, 09:46:03 PM some updates related pilot group who wish to receive update
Dude, do me a favour, stop posting useless info. I follow this thread closely and I’m fully aware about the pilot for people to do “beta” testing before it goes OTA. It’s been a couple of days and thought it worthwhile asking if there were any updates i.e. did the pilot testing go ok? Any setbacks etc.
Any news on the eagerly anticipated update?
Nothing since release, it's been 2 months already?
I am talking about standalone apollo-miner, not sure about GUI update.
Any news on the eagerly anticipated update?
From my quick inspection it looked like adhesive thermal tape; I'd say a bit of heat applied and some gentle coercion will get it loose. If you do go down this path let me know, I might do the same thing
Emailed Futurebit. Current heatsink is 25x25x10mm attached with thermal adhesive. Didn’t specify tape or liquid adhesive though.
Ive ordered a few fans, a couple of different sized Sunon maglev ones and a blower style one. Also ordered a dual fan heatsink for a raspi4. Probably won’t fit but it was only £5 which is cheaper than any 1 of the fans lol.
Good to know; let me know how your experiment goes. I'm 99.9% sure they've used thermal tape to stick the heatsink on because I could definitely make it out when looking at it.
Curious to see this dual fan heatsink, can you link it?
From my quick inspection it looked like adhesive thermal tape; I'd say a bit of heat applied and some gentle coercion will get it loose. If you do go down this path let me know, I might do the same thing
Emailed Futurebit. Current heatsink is 25x25x10mm attached with thermal adhesive. Didn’t specify tape or liquid adhesive though.
Ive ordered a few fans, a couple of different sized Sunon maglev ones and a blower style one. Also ordered a dual fan heatsink for a raspi4. Probably won’t fit but it was only £5 which is cheaper than any 1 of the fans lol.
Dual fan heatsink- https://thepihut.com/collections/raspberry-pi-cooling/products/dual-fan-heatsink-for-raspberry-pi
Is there space to squeeze a 10mm thick blower type fan on the SBC heatsink? Or are we limited to 7mm?
I fit a 10mmx25x25 in there... JUST. Screws won't fit and I had to use two small little balls of glue to mount the fan to the heatsink (the screw heads hit the plate above otherwise).... but it works. I was limited because anything local here was a 10mm and 7mm was a long wait so I took the chance. It's also a Nidec fan so it's good quality but yeah it works and my temps are fine, it's just a little "hacky" to get it to fit
See thats what I’m finding (although I have some 25x7mm) fans now and they are ok, the better brand/quality are all 10mm thick. I may get a 10mm blower and see if I can alter the screw fixings so the heads sit below the frame.
I used this one:
Shenzhen Factory Yccfan Ydl3007c05 30*30*7mm Raspberry Pi Cooling Fan.
I installed with 1 screw it forms about 5-10 angle with heatsink, but very quiet and keep temp around 57 - 60°C.
Is there space to squeeze a 10mm thick blower type fan on the SBC heatsink? Or are we limited to 7mm?
I fit a 10mmx25x25 in there... JUST. Screws won't fit and I had to use two small little balls of glue to mount the fan to the heatsink (the screw heads hit the plate above otherwise).... but it works. I was limited because anything local here was a 10mm and 7mm was a long wait so I took the chance. It's also a Nidec fan so it's good quality but yeah it works and my temps are fine, it's just a little "hacky" to get it to fit
See thats what I’m finding (although I have some 25x7mm) fans now and they are ok, the better brand/quality are all 10mm thick. I may get a 10mm blower and see if I can alter the screw fixings so the heads sit below the frame.
Another option which I thought might be to get a slightly lower profile heatsink (and maybe a bit wider to offset that)
That is a very good thought, lower profile but 30mm diameter would be better. Just got to see if one would fit. Also need to know how the current one is fixed. If its any sort of strong adhesive then I won't risk it.
From my quick inspection it looked like adhesive thermal tape; I'd say a bit of heat applied and some gentle coercion will get it loose. If you do go down this path let me know, I might do the same thing
Is there space to squeeze a 10mm thick blower type fan on the SBC heatsink? Or are we limited to 7mm?
I fit a 10mmx25x25 in there... JUST. Screws won't fit and I had to use two small little balls of glue to mount the fan to the heatsink (the screw heads hit the plate above otherwise).... but it works. I was limited because anything local here was a 10mm and 7mm was a long wait so I took the chance. It's also a Nidec fan so it's good quality but yeah it works and my temps are fine, it's just a little "hacky" to get it to fit
See thats what I’m finding (although I have some 25x7mm) fans now and they are ok, the better brand/quality are all 10mm thick. I may get a 10mm blower and see if I can alter the screw fixings so the heads sit below the frame.
Another option which I thought might be to get a slightly lower profile heatsink (and maybe a bit wider to offset that)
That is a very good thought, lower profile but 30mm diameter would be better. Just got to see if one would fit. Also need to know how the current one is fixed. If its any sort of strong adhesive then I won't risk it.
Is there space to squeeze a 10mm thick blower type fan on the SBC heatsink? Or are we limited to 7mm?
I fit a 10mmx25x25 in there... JUST. Screws won't fit and I had to use two small little balls of glue to mount the fan to the heatsink (the screw heads hit the plate above otherwise).... but it works. I was limited because anything local here was a 10mm and 7mm was a long wait so I took the chance. It's also a Nidec fan so it's good quality but yeah it works and my temps are fine, it's just a little "hacky" to get it to fit
See thats what I’m finding (although I have some 25x7mm) fans now and they are ok, the better brand/quality are all 10mm thick. I may get a 10mm blower and see if I can alter the screw fixings so the heads sit below the frame.
Another option which I thought might be to get a slightly lower profile heatsink (and maybe a bit wider to offset that)
Is there space to squeeze a 10mm thick blower type fan on the SBC heatsink? Or are we limited to 7mm?
I fit a 10mmx25x25 in there... JUST. Screws won't fit and I had to use two small little balls of glue to mount the fan to the heatsink (the screw heads hit the plate above otherwise).... but it works. I was limited because anything local here was a 10mm and 7mm was a long wait so I took the chance. It's also a Nidec fan so it's good quality but yeah it works and my temps are fine, it's just a little "hacky" to get it to fit
See thats what I’m finding (although I have some 25x7mm) fans now and they are ok, the better brand/quality are all 10mm thick. I may get a 10mm blower and see if I can alter the screw fixings so the heads sit below the frame.
Is there space to squeeze a 10mm thick blower type fan on the SBC heatsink? Or are we limited to 7mm?
I fit a 10mmx25x25 in there... JUST. Screws won't fit and I had to use two small little balls of glue to mount the fan to the heatsink (the screw heads hit the plate above otherwise).... but it works. I was limited because anything local here was a 10mm and 7mm was a long wait so I took the chance. It's also a Nidec fan so it's good quality but yeah it works and my temps are fine, it's just a little "hacky" to get it to fit
Is there space to squeeze a 10mm thick blower type fan on the SBC heatsink? Or are we limited to 7mm?
Hi guys,
I successfully reverse engineered full package Apollo, to be headless Armbian.
Things done:
Orange Pi 4 (Apollo's controller) 7mm fan increased to full 5V, it was overheating before
Default Ubuntu system (without security updates, because that interferes with Apollo GPIO solution for apollo-miner) replaced with Armbian Buster (basically Debian 10 with Arm tweaks)
NVMe drive stolen and put into my PC
USB 1TB HDD installed instead. It's really hot where it lives now (in the attic) so I even give it heatsink and fan
HDD formatted with Btrfs so I see checksum corruption errors, if any to happen
Because I couldn't figure out custom GPIO work jstefanop did on Ubuntu, which is also prone to breakages when system is getting updates as we seen after release, I plugged in a short USB cable from miner to Orange Pi 4. Now my full package Apollo talks via USB cable, not via GPIO
apollo-miner binary doesn't work on Debian 10, so I imported required GNU C Libraries and dependencies from Debian 11
no root required for apollo-miner binary
full startup of bitcoind and apollo-miner via crontab and screen
standalone apollo-miner crashes every few days, known issue, mine runs it bash loop and never stops mining
bitcoind runs in a loop and never stops even if Internet breaks, also it start only once 1TB HDD USB drive is mounted, if drive fails, bitcoind will not start to prevent starting in default directory and filling microSD card completely
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No need for GUI anymore when I have reports like this. 🥰
I successfully reverse engineered full package Apollo, to be headless Armbian.
Things done:
Orange Pi 4 (Apollo's controller) 7mm fan increased to full 5V, it was overheating before
Default Ubuntu system (without security updates, because that interferes with Apollo GPIO solution for apollo-miner) replaced with Armbian Buster (basically Debian 10 with Arm tweaks)
NVMe drive stolen and put into my PC
USB 1TB HDD installed instead. It's really hot where it lives now (in the attic) so I even give it heatsink and fan
HDD formatted with Btrfs so I see checksum corruption errors, if any to happen
Because I couldn't figure out custom GPIO work jstefanop did on Ubuntu, which is also prone to breakages when system is getting updates as we seen after release, I plugged in a short USB cable from miner to Orange Pi 4. Now my full package Apollo talks via USB cable, not via GPIO
apollo-miner binary doesn't work on Debian 10, so I imported required GNU C Libraries and dependencies from Debian 11
no root required for apollo-miner binary
full startup of bitcoind and apollo-miner via crontab and screen
standalone apollo-miner crashes every few days, known issue, mine runs it bash loop and never stops mining
bitcoind runs in a loop and never stops even if Internet breaks, also it start only once 1TB HDD USB drive is mounted, if drive fails, bitcoind will not start to prevent starting in default directory and filling microSD card completely
Telegram bot updates twice a day:
No need for GUI anymore when I have reports like this. 🥰
Hey guys update for the core system is ready to be pushed to you all, but since this is our first foray into "OTA" updates we want to test everything outside our internal testing before we send an update that bricks everyones system (just kidding this is highly unlikely but still want to test any weird update edge cases).
If you know your way around the terminal (need to be able to ssh into the system, or access terminal on the desktop via a monitor), DM me your email and ill add you to our tester group. Would be helpful if you had issues with your miner needing manual restarts or the UI bug where your stats are not displayed when viewed over the webUI.
If you know your way around the terminal (need to be able to ssh into the system, or access terminal on the desktop via a monitor), DM me your email and ill add you to our tester group. Would be helpful if you had issues with your miner needing manual restarts or the UI bug where your stats are not displayed when viewed over the webUI.
DM sent mate. I had the UI bug so I'd be keen to see if this fixes my problem
Hey guys update for the core system is ready to be pushed to you all, but since this is our first foray into "OTA" updates we want to test everything outside our internal testing before we send an update that bricks everyones system (just kidding this is highly unlikely but still want to test any weird update edge cases).
If you know your way around the terminal (need to be able to ssh into the system, or access terminal on the desktop via a monitor), DM me your email and ill add you to our tester group. Would be helpful if you had issues with your miner needing manual restarts or the UI bug where your stats are not displayed when viewed over the webUI.
If you know your way around the terminal (need to be able to ssh into the system, or access terminal on the desktop via a monitor), DM me your email and ill add you to our tester group. Would be helpful if you had issues with your miner needing manual restarts or the UI bug where your stats are not displayed when viewed over the webUI.
I kind of disagree with this. The point of running a node is to be able to broadcast your own transactions without using a 3rd party. Whenever you use a client like trezor wallet suite or the ledger app, you are using their node to transmit your bitcoin on the block chain. You are essentially trusting someone else to be honest with your bitcoin
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Yes.
The portion I am having confusion is this:
"All blockchain data is stored on the NVME drive which is located at /media/nvme on the linux system. It is also accessible on the desktop via the file browser."
I installed bitcoin core using the "snap" program listed on the bitcoin.org website.
I rebooted and the Bitcoin core icon showed up but now when I start it up i tried selecting "/media/nvme/Bitcoin" as the directory but that did not appear selectable on the Bitcoin core installer. I typed it in manually hoping it would find it because the folder is definitely there if I look locally but the Bitcoin core program doesn't seem to find it and now whenever i try to start Bitcoin core it just says "Error initializing settings: failed saving settings file: unable to open settings file: /media/nvme/Bitcoin settings.json.tmp for writing"
I tried editing the permissions but it says that I am not the owner. I don't even know how to uninstall so I can attempt to reinstall lol
. So not totally sure what to do now.I wouldn't mind using this with Umbrel or something like mynode if that is easy and/or possible but idk how to install those either. i suck at linux lol.
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The miner portion is just that - a miner - and has nothing (directly) to do with anything regarding what you describe.
Yep, agreed! Just wanted to point out that running a node on any device isn't just a "support the network" kinda deal. some people think its pointless (i did when i first got into BTC) but it's definitely in one's best interest to use your own node to broadcast transactions.
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