Topic: Official FutureBit Apollo BTC Software/Image and Support thread - page 122. (Read 44685 times)

But can is too little here, it has to.
You can ask slush pool and Genesis mining about that stuff

So here my question again:


I like the product. Bring mining back to small people, decentralized, quiet etc. Would be happy to support the project and preorder.
But for sure I will not buy a closed source miner, which has never shown that it can find blocks.
Especially not if it is to be used for solomining. (Whether this is right for the target group "are first time miners" is another question.)

I really don't see any understandable reason not to publish the code.

Alas this statement is completely false and thus shows that indeed these miners have not been tested to be able to find blocks.
The usual worry about people who don't understand what they are doing and are only looking for profit.
Even phil has made an attempt at understanding the issue in his post above, but alas not quite got it right.

Edit: I wrote the first, original block testing screen notification code in cgminer
I think I might know what I'm talking about ...

Ahh thats where phillip's confusing question comes from in the other thread....should have known better. 

So we went from me making shitty vaporware, to me selling pre-orders ill probably never deliver, to now that I have actually delivered working hardware making baseless attacks on the software that make no sense? Whats your agenda here anyway?

From someone who runs a pool its pretty concerning that you dont know how blocks are found. If our software can submit a valid share to a pool, it can also find a valid block and thats all the proof you need. But you already know that or should know that...so once again whats your agenda?

edit 1:
Well If I point this to a solo btc pool the math says it will take a long time at 2th to hit a block.

This section is for btc not alt sha-256 coins which have lower difficulty.

If it hit a block in BHA it only proves that it can do a difficulty of   13.82gh
if it hit a block in BSV it only proves that it can do a difficulty of  109.70gh
if it hit a block in BCH it only proves that it can do a difficulty of  370.34gh
if it hit a block in BTC Kano's issue is done. as it would be over 21050.00gh or 21.05th

since 1 unit does 2th on eco or 46 cents

and 1,000 units or 2,000th  on eco is 460 usd a day it is very likely we won't see a block ever be hit.

10,000 units or 20,000 on eco is 4600usd a day

a block is about 230,000 usd or roughly 500 days if there are 10000 of these mining at ckpool or kano solopool

frankly this is better suited to be pointed at viabtc with a payout set to 0.01 btc

just mine and hold for a few years.

let someone else try to find a block with it.



edit 2:
As I understand you can't prove it will hit a block of difficulty of 21th until it hits it. Am I correct?

which means 10000 of these could do it in 500 days with normal luck  correct?

feel free to correct my math as I am not very good at it.


edit 3:

I remember diff going past 32gb years ago and some software then failed to be able to hit a block as it shares were capped at 32gb

so I am thinking you do not what share size to be capped anywhere at all or as least many many times higher than 21.05 t

So have they verified that these things can actually find blocks?

That's the other typical issue with people who hack cgminer or write or plagiarizer one.
They leave it up to the people who pay them to test it, and usually no one ever finds out ... which of course can mean the obvious, it doesn't work.

Since they've supposedly written a new miner (yeah I've checked it is definitely not a straight cgminer code copy), clearly it is up to them to verify this before selling something that effectively doesn't work.

Haven't recieved by batch one order yet (1 full, 2 standards) but would like to know in advance

1: Can the full node be disabled (HOW?) at the start (as it's being downloaded) without screwing up the SSD and/or SIM card?

2: If not - can it be disabled after it's downloaded?

I'm planning on doing some other SHA256 mining so I'm assuming that's no problem?

Thanks in advance,

David

Any chance we'll get https for remote sessions in the future?

Not currently, wanted to keep things as simple as possible since a large portion of our customers are first time miners.

If you want to do this in the meantime, you can start up the hashboard manually. Its a little involved but here are the steps:
-Disconnect the usb cable of the hashboard you want to point to a different pool.  
-Start the miner in the dashboard so UI configured pool and connected hashboards start mining to that pool
-Connect the hashboard you want to mine to a different pool
-Open up a terminal and figure out the serial port by typing "ls /dev/ACM*" ....the hashboard you just connected will be the highest number
-Go to the directory the internal apollo-miner is installed at "cd /opt/apolloui/backend/apollo-miner"
-Startup that hashboard manually with the serial port you found above and its own pool using instructions found here:   https://github.com/jstefanop/Apollo-Miner-Binaries/blob/main/linux-aarch64/start_apollo.sh

(ie ./apollo-miner -host us-east.stratum.slushpool.com -port 3333 -user jstefanop.x -pswd x -comport /dev/ttyACM0 -brd_ocp 48  -osc 30 -ao_mode 1)

If you do it this way the hashboard should also be added to the UI stats and you should be able to see it there (fyi i havent tested this so could break the UI if its using a different pool).

We left the system open so you power users can poke around and configure it to your hearts desire...you can also do the above by editing the start script in the miner folder and you can do lots of stuff this way like per board power settings, per board pools, etc etc (all the start script does now is find all the /dev/ACM serials connected and loops through all of them and starts a miner instance for each board using settings from UI....you can just explicitly point to each serial and put your own settings for each board if you want).

                                                                  

Any possibility of being able to add different pools for different hashboards if one has multiple standard units?  I have 1 full package and 3 standard units, so 4 hashboards are all on one pool.  Would be a cool option if I could direct 1 to a different pool/coin and the others to another. 

viabtc .com and set the payout at 0.01 btc which right now is about 350 usd

it will take close to 22 months to get there.

and if btc spikes crazy high in 3 or 4 months just change the payout to 0.001 btc
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Thanks. I bought two full packages. I will set one to the pool you recommended and one to solo ck pool. I have 4 other futurebit LTC miners and so far are mining away with no issues at the kid and grandkids homes. They learning too :-)

Not true.

If your mining at 3TH/s (turbo mode) you have ~ a 1/340,000 daily odds of hitting a BTC block.

Way better odds than the lottery, but of course the cash prize is "only" 200 grand 

Will be adding a direct solo mine option to your node in the coming months.

My response was whether to set it to solo mine, not pool mine.  I have my 4 units setup on ViaBTC at the moment churning away. 

I didn't realize via did a .001 payout because I never used it, I was just going off the .01 mentioned, but after all looks like there are at least two options at this rate.  I agree about the alts, it was just side note.  I'm still on team ckpool.

I no longer talk about alt coins much in this section.

But you can mine them on viabtc.com

The idea of using viabtc.com to mine and hold btc is a sound plan.

viabtc allows for the following btc payouts.

1.0btc would be 34,000 plus and will take forever to reach 1 btc
0.1btc 3400 and will take over 20 years to reach .1btc
0.01btc 340+ and will take around 2 years to reach 0.01 btc
0.001btc 34+ and will take about 2-3 months to reach


these are great for mine and hodl 2 year horizon

better if you are a freshman in college mine and hodl until you graduate.

Few pools are going to give you a payout at this hashrate.  However, as suggested in the OP, on slushpool you can set it as low as 0.001 BTC for a payout which should only take a couple of months.  I'm solo mining on ckpool until they get the on device solo mining working.  You could also mine sha256 altcoins on zergpool and autoexchange into BTC and the payout is only .002 BTC.  I'm not Phil but I tested all three pools mentioned here with my Apollo.

viabtc .com and set the payout at 0.01 btc which right now is about 350 usd

it will take close to 22 months to get there.

and if btc spikes crazy high in 3 or 4 months just change the payout to 0.001 btc

If you don't mind me asking, what pool would you mine against when you set it and forget it?

that is not exactly true.

depends on what type of lottery.

besides.

if you simply set it and forget it for a while it will add up over time.

this is all about mine and hodl

my plan is to mine and hodl a coin for a year. while it does its thing as a full node.

Wouldn’t advise.  At this low a hashrate, you’d have better luck winning the actual lottery than hitting a block.

I'd imagine the OS is on the SD card