Topic: [OFFICIAL POLL] QRK LOGO COMPETITION - page 16. (Read 34189 times)

You're right, of course. Perhaps I am.

Trolls will come and go, as always. I've got to try to remember not to feed them, though.

You know, I've had just about enough with the insults from various people, about my logo.

I was good enough yesterday to try to strike a deal with the front-runners to give some of the lesser-seen entrants a better shot at winning. The 2 front runners were kind enough to enter into a dialogue with me about that matter, but we weren't able to hammer out a plan.  But still, at least they were decent with me and we tried to work something out... so my hat goes off to both of them.

I have tried my best, from time to time, to show that I actually give a shit about Quark and its future. I have repeatedly bent over and taken it up the wazoo for being too kind, too fair-minded, for letting people walk all over me in my life because I will give and give until I have just about nothing left. I've dealt with that all my life. I know who I am and what I'm about.

But I'm not going to take unfair and totally unnecessary insults or degradation from anonymous internet users who get some kind of cheap thrill out of throwing insults as if they don't affect REAL people. Some of you have quite a bit of growing up to do.

It's fine if you want to support your favorite in a post to encourage them, but it really is petty and childish to drag someone else's name through the mud in the process. Are we adults here, or are we in grade school?

All that said, I have decided to start campaigning again. I've tried to be reasonable, and some have responded in kind... but I'm tired of people slagging off my work as if it is utter crap, which it is not. It may not be the strongest, in certain people's minds, but I've gotten votes. That tells me that at least some people actually like my work.

Everyone has a different opinion about what makes good art. There is impressionism, which to me looks like random paint splatter. Yet collectors often pay thousands or even millions of dollars for such works. So everyone's taste is different. If my logo happens to suit particular tastes, but not yours, so be it. You're not the only person on earth with an opinion.

You don't see me in here insulting people or degrading their work. I could do it just as easily as some of you others have.

If I do happen to win, I've already got a few things in mind that may help promote Quark. My sister's husband in Philadelphia works for a major TV network affiliate over there.

So you can rest assured that if I win through my campaigning, I can do a fair bit more than "nothing" to get Quark out there in front of people's eyes.

I wish all the entrants the very best of luck.

I hope the winner donates a reasonable amount to some the Quark Foundation.

*** SLOW CLAP ***

bravo - finally - all anyone wanted to see was a firm commitment, and an end to all that wishy-washy bullshit in the past

please allow me to be the first to congratulate you on the return of your BACKBONE, FlipPro

nice to see that when push comes to shove, you actually ARE a man of your word

cmooonnnnn barry or boxxl.
One of you fuckers better not let Ultimist's poverty logo win

Some people in this thread need to take a serious step back and relax.

I'm not changing any of my commitments, I was only looking to see if we had a civil community that would be willing to relocate some of the bounty funds into other useful developments.

Since I see I'm dealing with a bunch of children, I'm just going to let the contest run through as-is.

Good luck to the winner.

Is there any proof that he holds the prize in a wallet?

there is a disease plaguing someone on this thread -- specifically, the starter of this poll himself, the OP, none other than our lovely FlipPro.

what disease is he suffering from, you may ask?

evidently there is a new strain of intermittent SCHIZOPHRENIA that has decided to target a SINGLE HOST in the entire fucking universe!

here's my evidence:



and then this, only TWO FUCKING HOURS LATER:


listen guys, you may think of me as a worthless TROLL, but honestly, doesn't wishy-washy crap such as the above, from the contest organizer himself, make you want to pull out EVERY FUCKING HAIR IN YOUR HEAD?

come on FlipPro -- you committed to this fucking contest and you are making a bigger fool out of yourself as every day passes

I simply CANNOT be the only one who has noticed this back-and-forth bullshit you are pulling

if you do not go through with this vote and pay the fucking winner in full, you are going to EMBARRASS Quark and yourself BEYOND ALL REPAIR

MY FUCKING GOD!!!

for the sake of all that is good and holy would you just COMMIT to this god-damned endeavor that YOU STARTED and ride it through to the end like a FUCKING MAN instead of a passive-aggressive and extremely unstable MENTAL PATIENT who escaped the ward!

"I don't know what to do"
"Changing it now would be unfair."
"I don't know what to do, again."
"But I made this contest and I have to stick with it."
"Johnny 5 needs INNNNPUUUUUUTTT"
"Somebody please tell me what to do."
"Let's just ride this thing through."
"Help me, my brain fell out, AGAIN."
"Found it, we need to stick with this."

dude, seriously?  fucking ENOUGH ALREADY!!

I am going to tell you what everyone else is too afraid to tell you:

you are NOT doing yourself any favors by behaving this way --- everyone here sees me as a mindless troll, and they don't give a FUCK about what i have to say, obviously -- but i guarantee you, they AGREE with what i am saying here, whether they have the balls to say it to YOU, or not

you are embarrassing Quark more and more BY THE HOUR with this back and forth INSANITY

just finish out the contest and save what is left of your SHAKY reputation

you are seriously looking like you have a few SCREWS LOOSE

every time you shit more of your DEMENTIA into this discussion, hundreds of people around the world do a FACE PALM simultaneously

your split-personality back and forth LUNATIC behavior has GOT TO STOP

JUST SAYIN'



UPDATE: only moments ago, FlipPro actually decided to commit to this: BRAVO.... fucking finally!!!

I gotta admit, some of the posts in this thread are worth the bounty.

So much lulz.

We're running this one till the end boys...

PS. Contestants can promote this vote ANYWHERE.

Links are working for me please point to which links isn't working.

The links in the document don't work.

FlipPro, I think the what has frustrated people the most in this contest is the lack of organisation and consistency in how it has been managed. I am completely out of the running in the vote so I am only speaking in the interest of fairness for the others that worked as hard as I did.

I think your responsibilities to the contest are to set clear rules and expectations and to stick to your commitments.

Initially the contest was the design "a new logo" for Quarkcoin. This is a clear requirement.

After a while, and remember that many contestants had already made their submissions based on the brief that was given, some additional requirements were set, to include various other embodiments of the logo. This was buried in the thread and was missed by many contestants. Not an ideal situation but you are running this contest and you have stated that these are requirements for a valid submission.

Then as we approached the deadline there was mention of a community vote. I was surprised by this development. I don't think it was mentioned previously and I'm not sure I would have entered the contest at all on that basis. I thought it was a bizarre decision that the contestants should have the most influence in selecting the winner and immediately assumed there would be vote rigging. I expected that a winner would be selected by the contest organiser or a panel of judges soon after the deadline had passed. But again, you made a commitment to award the prize based to the winner of the vote.

I have no issue with the vote switching from Quarktalk to Bitcointalk, it's an unfortunate situation that added some confusion to the mix but completely outside of your control.

Finally, I only found the link for the vote by chance yesterday. i may be wrong but I don't think it was linked from the original thread. I think that may be why so many entries have no votes at all. I think a lot of the designers don't even know that a vote has taken place. In my opinion the voting has not been organised or communicated well.

So, you have made a few commitments and as the organiser of this contest you have a responsibility to live up to them. Anything less would be irresponsible and unfair to the contestants. I don't think the result will be ideal for Quarkcoin or the community at this stage but that is the end product of mismanaging the contest. It can't be corrected by pulling out of your commitments. It's an unfortunate situation but you need to ask yourself how much your word is worth now. That is the most that can be salvaged at this stage.

murt9000

@barrysoetoro

Your attitude of lumping together all those who have a problem with the carrying out of the vote is childish. I am neither participating not having a problem with anyone to win or loose. I think the conditions turn out to be contraproductive for the intentional idea of the contest. I don´t mind if you disagree but I´d like to ask you to be at least that tolerant to not randomly accuse everyone who doesnt agree with you of trolling.

"So to have all participants be in mutual agreement is impossible."

I didnt say it was possible, I only said that IF there are changes there SHOULD be mutual agreement...sigh

@Quarkfx, art is subjective and everyone has their own opinion. So to have all participants be in mutual agreement is impossible.

The ones who are trolling knew the contest was going to include a final vote to determine the winner and not a single one of them had a problem with it until they weren't winning.

Shutting the competition down because a handful of people can't act like adults is not the right decision.

Nothing has changed since this contest started and whoever has the popular vote on February 8th should take the prize as originally intended, even Smaragda.  

Imho the contest must not be canceled entirely. Too much work and energy has been spent by too many talented designers. The final choice won´t necessarily change the design used by the foundation but still it is an important competition for the community.

I understand the reservations towards a reboot of the votation given the fact that people were waiting for this vote for a long time, but this cannot be the decisive argument if the vote turns out to be unfair or a mere question of mobilization. To reconsider the proceeding is not, like some seem to argue, a contradiction and betrayal of the participants and the community or an attempt to impose own interests, it is rather the attempt to save the result from being worthless in the long run. This poll may close as it is - but what will the result be worth if people have constant arguments about whether or not the other cheated?

To prevent arguments and to raise the acceptance of the competition it is crucial to have a robust set of rules that is most likely to prevent misconduct - currently I don´t see that. The organizer splitted the vote into a public vote and a vote of the participants, which makes it less likely to be manipulated. However, as the vote of the participants hasn´t been conducted yet, participants are technically able to vote strategically with the result of the public vote in mind. To me that is inaceptable. The vote needs to be made in advance and it needs to be secret until the public vote ends.

This is only one flaw of the current proceeding. There are others like the fact that contributions aren´t standardized and therefore hard to compare. In some cases people don´t know what they are voting for because there are different logos. In other cases participants only created a logo but no different scenarios of use that are pretty important to decide whether the use makes sense.

On page 6 I suggested a two-step votation and an appropriate presentation of the contributions. In general I don´t think that the organizer should decide but rather - as FlipPro said himself - the participants of the competition in mutual agreement.  

ooooh a sting operation

this is gonna be good!

***grabs plenty o' popcorn***

***gets ready for show to begin***

places everyone!

@KJO, Who cares if Smaragda was asking for votes!? You're supposed to do that! Why in the world would anyone join a voting contest and not ask other people to vote for them?

I already asked you for your proof of claim, where is it?

Or are empty accusations from you all I get?

You say I am to blame for calling out the fraud...you are a nutjob. A hypocritical nutjob.

Your frivolous claim that I somehow hold liability in this mess is very telling of someone who is too blind to see and too deaf to hear any truth.

You are blind. Face it, you are just pissed that the prize money is gone and you need a punching bag.

I am not that punching bag.

It is obvious to everyone smagmadillo was spamming for votes. It's all over the quark boards but since it is apparent you did not know this, I can only assume you have never been to qrk.cc.

IN any event, I am still waiting for any proof of claim for your absurd diatribe and ludicrous accusations.


Go head, I'm still waiting on that chain of title while your face turns blue.