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March 24, 2014, 06:19:25 AM
Actually that can happen with door numbering. I have seen some incredibly retarded door numbering systems in various places. Would not chalk this one up to AMT at this point. That could just be a fluke and poor numbering on the part of the university who I believe owns that land.
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March 24, 2014, 01:50:06 AM
Everyone,
I've figured this out. AMT is just rebranding bitmine units. If you look at AMT's pictures and Bitmine's YouTube videos, all of the locations seem to match up. Bitmine has also stopped selling their A1 units, maybe to actually help fulfill AMT orders. Office and manufacturing facilities look the same in the pictures and videos. Go look for yourselves! Maybe Josh, Jim, Alyssa are just US Bitmine employees or whatever so that they can be an offical American business. This is why no one needs to be in the office and they have a remote manufacturing facility and don't want people to come help all of a sudden. Any thoughts?
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March 24, 2014, 12:53:26 AM
why doesn't AMT or Nvidia mass produce Bitcoin MIners. and blow them all out of the water. I wouldn't mind buying a Miner at my LOcal Frys Grin

AMT is already supposedly building ASICs.  You're in their thread.  Do you mean AMD maybe?
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March 24, 2014, 12:00:06 AM
Scam? Undecided

i wouldn't touch this coin seems like another scam.
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March 23, 2014, 11:53:36 PM
Google ?? they are so big they could just point there cpu's at bitcoin and pump out more than any other farm.. They have serious firepower.
Google could point every CPU they have at the network and not make a dent in it. You might get ~10MH/s out of an average server CPU, and the network now is ~40PH/s. To be even 1% of the network, Google would need to point 40 million 10MH/s CPUs at the network.
The network has grown past the point where even the largest companies in the world deploying CPUs or GPUs could seriously affect it.

But Google has the money and the knowledge to build their own ASIC chips and farm whenever they want.
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March 23, 2014, 10:40:06 PM
why doesn't AMT or Nvidia mass produce Bitcoin MIners. and blow them all out of the water. I wouldn't mind buying a Miner at my LOcal Frys Grin
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March 23, 2014, 09:43:48 PM
Google ?? they are so big they could just point there cpu's at bitcoin and pump out more than any other farm.. They have serious firepower.
Google could point every CPU they have at the network and not make a dent in it. You might get ~10MH/s out of an average server CPU, and the network now is ~40PH/s. To be even 1% of the network, Google would need to point 40 million 10MH/s CPUs at the network.
The network has grown past the point where even the largest companies in the world deploying CPUs or GPUs could seriously affect it.
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March 23, 2014, 09:02:20 PM
rik, in my case and probably a couple others, yes we paid for rigs made by BitMine.ch and resold by AMT as their distributor for the USA. My only hope in the matter is that that BMch has said that orders for the older systems will be changed to their new versions. In my case a 4U high rack case @600GHs vs the non-rack and 'prettier' 520GHs unit. At least that is what they have told their direct-order customers. When they actually start shipping that is.

As to if my order got placed with them by AMT.....

Before ya ask, I only ordered through AMT because on the BitMine site they said they were out-of-stock/back order only whereas AMT gave the impression they had some/were getting some so silly me ordered. Also, at the time Ant S1's were around 2-3x the price they are right now so it seemed a no-brainer.

On the bitmine page announcing amt as us distributor:

"Customers from the US can finally purchase miners based on the industry leading CoinCraft A1 technology directly from AMT, a local manufacturer of Bitcoin miners. Additionally, AMT will be selling bare A1 chips in smaller breakouts, just check out their website for the available products.

It doesn't say anything thing there about ordering a Bitmine unit from AMT just that they will be getting access to the Coincraft A1 Technology, and that it would be coming directly from AMT.  Who manufacture locally.

If you paid for the 520  GH unit based on the 28nm chip then it looks like it was coming from AMT the whole time, I don't even see a 520 gh option for the desk which goes up in increments of 200gh per board.

Unless at the time bitmine was offering some other 28 nm products no longer listed, which doesn't really make sense because they didn't have the chips yet.
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March 23, 2014, 08:01:24 PM
rik, in my case and probably a couple others, yes we paid for rigs made by BitMine.ch and resold by AMT as their distributor for the USA. My only hope in the matter is that that BMch has said that orders for the older systems will be changed to their new versions. In my case a 4U high rack case @600GHs vs the non-rack and 'prettier' 520GHs unit. At least that is what they have told their direct-order customers. When they actually start shipping that is.

As to if my order got placed with them by AMT.....

Before ya ask, I only ordered through AMT because on the BitMine site they said they were out-of-stock/back order only whereas AMT gave the impression they had some/were getting some so silly me ordered. Seeing other companies offering rigs with the same chip (at higher rices) led me to think that the A1 chips were actually working as salable items (bzzzzt, wrong) Also, at the time Ant S1's were around 2-3x the price they are right now so it seemed a no-brainer.
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March 23, 2014, 07:52:33 PM
Google ?? they are so big they could just point there cpu's at bitcoin and pump out more than any other farm.. They have serious firepower.

Thats not the point tho. Its to invest in companies to do the work. Their CPU power has to be for their cloud and search business. Thats the priority there for them. All said tho we do need to look at bitmine and see if they can put some pressure on some kind of announcement.
Exactly. Companies like I linked with the WA state news vid. As I said, Motley Fool fool.com the investment site has several times made mention of the big-G having interest/owning 2 large warehouse-sized properties in WA state. Um, in the news feed, that company interviewed has 2 large warehouse sized pharms...

Anywho, yes if they (Google) are in large investors in BMch then it is certainly in their best interest to get thing moving at BitMine.ch and its affiliates.
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March 23, 2014, 07:43:35 PM
It's not like AMT was ordering our stuff directly from bitmine. They ordered the chips only. I e-mailed them some time ago and they weren't supplying them with the PCBs that's why they have manufacturers here in the states working on the boards (supposedly) Though there was at least one backplane picture taken on the 21st of Feb in PA at IMET http://www.imetcorporation.com/ about 1/2 hour from the AMT office. Now it looks like AMT is just piggy backing off of bitmine's design and manufacturing it here. sO until bitmine figures it's shit out then AMT won't either un less they start being proactive rather than reactive.

Someone said they confirmed boards being made at PNC but I don't remember who. It was in the thread. IMET never got back to me after I talked to a person there. Likely because they had a contract. he case might be different now if someone calls and says there are lawsuits being filed and we are just asking for cooperation.

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March 23, 2014, 06:11:41 PM
Google ?? they are so big they could just point there cpu's at bitcoin and pump out more than any other farm.. They have serious firepower.

Thats not the point tho. Its to invest in companies to do the work. Their CPU power has to be for their cloud and search business. Thats the priority there for them. All said tho we do need to look at bitmine and see if they can put some pressure on some kind of announcement.
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March 23, 2014, 06:07:00 PM
Google ?? they are so big they could just point there cpu's at bitcoin and pump out more than any other farm.. They have serious firepower.
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March 23, 2014, 06:04:19 PM
Not that it may help much given BitMin.ch's own problems and massive backlog of very unhappy customers waiting for their miners ordered directly from BMch but... With AMT being an (or The) 'Authorized Distributor for BitMine.ch products in the United States" then BMch ultimately is responsible for actions and non-actions of AMT pertaining to sales of their gear and other products.

That is provided AMT actually placed our orders with BMch for chips/boards or  BMch rigs like my 520 and sent any of our funds to BMch. If not, then again we are looking at pure fraud....

According to this https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=H5Q5ECkaHiM, Giggles and Pickles are partners in each other's endeavors.

Well considering they are partners in that sense then yea it would make sense. That much at least is normal in the arrangement. Happens all the time. But all said if google is involved in investing in bitmine (as was alleged earlier in this thread)....then it might not hurt to contact them either. Google is more the 800 Lb gorilla here and if they are concerned they are going to get bad press over this, they will drop the hammer down. Lesson of the day here is. Follow the money. We can follow the money and really just talk to the people who invested. Chances are they may not even know this is happening yet. They hold all the cards.
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March 23, 2014, 05:53:47 PM
Not that it may help much given BitMin.ch's own problems and massive backlog of very unhappy customers waiting for their miners ordered directly from BMch but... With AMT being an (or The) 'Authorized Distributor for BitMine.ch products in the United States" then BMch ultimately is responsible for actions and non-actions of AMT pertaining to sales of their gear and other products.

That is provided AMT actually placed our orders with BMch for chips/boards or  BMch rigs like my 520 and sent any of our funds to BMch. If not, then again we are looking at pure fraud....
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March 23, 2014, 09:19:07 AM
From the unofficial order list, it appears there have been some people who have received hardware. Not a single 1.2THs at this point tho that anyone has confirmed. And with bitmine delays no reason to think there will be until they resolve their issues.
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March 23, 2014, 08:53:31 AM
has anyone received anything.  i am talking about the all the other miners they make under 1.2th/s
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March 23, 2014, 01:58:26 AM
I havnt been watching "Days of our AMT" soap opera for the past few months i'm very happy i did not buy a miner from them. Ive waited on the whole bitcoin and to tell you truth. Its not worth the time or investent. I think we all have a better chance in winning PowerBall Lotto then ever getting a miner from AMT
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March 23, 2014, 12:32:48 AM
If we are going to demonstrate as a community that they need to deliver or refund us our money, it needs to be more against the business of AMT and the assets they are holding.

I alerted people like you months ago, that AMT was run by one-man operation in USA from Bulgaria. All you have is a case against a fictional entity which purposely sold products using the name of an unrelated company. There is no assets, there is no holdings... You were all pretty much duped. Assets were never collected from any fraudulent company involved with Bitcoin and will certainly not happen in the near future.

IF this is correct it actually makes it easier to go after him, he shows up on a multitude of websites, he's got a video with the guy from bitmine.ch https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=H5Q5ECkaHiM
specifically claiming to be with AMT.

So if he's a one man operation, working under the guise of a corporation then he falls subject to the legal premise of piercing the corporate veil which makes all of his personal funds available to those suing him as he was running AMT as an alter ego.  Then you don't have to worry about him hiding money personally from a "corporate account"

Also he does a really good impression of a lady on the phone if he's a one man operation. Too good if you ask me.
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March 23, 2014, 12:12:57 AM
Yeah this is part of a larger business.

We had a similar one back home where they would sell these same types of services and it was well before AMT even existed.

You are seeing the same listings all over america because they recruit using the same script. You open your own branch essentially as an independent business owner. It's a multi-level marketing company just dealing in services instead of products.

It's possible one or both of them an IBO with this group but they would have nothing to do with the larger management, and what is often the case with these type of businesses you get a website pre-made for you by the larger entity. So they would all have a website likely sourced from the same place which appears to be Unique Software Development, LLC.

Though this company looks to deal in products and services.  ( Edit: my bad it looks like they are referring to energy delivery as a products , rather than a service.)

Edit: Unique Software Development, LLC specializes in assembling and managing dedicated teams of highly skilled technical professionals to develop complete applications or augment your in-house resources.

With our corporate headquarters in Dallas, TX and software development centers in Karachi, Pakistan, Brasov, Romania and Madrid, Spain - we offer you the convenience and security of working with a reliable U.S. corporation plus all the benefits of a highly affordable offshore development team.


This full cycled distributors just appears to be a client of  Unique Software Development, LLC.



http://www.linkedin.com/company/national-academy-for-software-development-nasd-?trk=top_nav_home

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Headquarters
Nishava 163, ent. B, office 1 Sofia, 1406 Bulgaria

http://www.crunchbase.com/company/the-deal-fair

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Offices

Headquaters
1254 West Chester Pike
Havertown, PA, 19083
USA

Tech Center
133 Nishava Str.
Sofia, PA, 1404
USA


Unique Software Development is not the same as the national academy  for software development.

Unique Software Development
 9330 Lyndon B Johnson Freeway
         Suite 900
         Dallas, TX 75243

Not PA or Bulgaria all I'm seeing here is to much stretching.

I'd need something way more concrete to connect the two.
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