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March 07, 2014, 01:47:12 PM
What a shocker. For mother fucking sakes, it is beyond me how fucking stupid people can be. I'm sure a crew of geniuses who bought into this shit will be able to figure out how to get their money back.
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March 07, 2014, 12:45:47 PM

I'm waiting 48 hours before I proceed with legal action. It's the least I can do.

Keep us posted!  

I have requested a refund.  

If my request is not honored,  I'm going to small claims court.  No lawyer required.  I doubt they want to spend their time battling out in small claims court with every customer.

I hate to say it, but it sounds like you have WAY too much faith in the system.

You should go back a few pages and read about AMT's business licensing (or lack thereof): I have a feeling it might be hard to nail these guys down, as their locations, business registrations, people involved --- it's just a long complicated rabbit hole.

We need to act soon. By the time everyone gets their shit together, I have a feeling that Joshua Zipkin will be back in Bulgaria (if he's not ALREADY there) with the money. Then what will we do? Have him extradited to the U.S?
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March 07, 2014, 12:35:48 PM
Small claims court information:

http://www.nolo.com/legal-encyclopedia/free-books/small-claims-book/chapter9-2.html

PA has a $12,000 monetary limit in small claims court, meaning that is the maximum you can be awarded if you win. This leaves anyone that has pre-ordered more than 2 miners, out of luck.

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March 07, 2014, 11:37:01 AM
so what should i do?  
Order: #492
Product   Quantity   Price
1.2TH/s Coin Miner   1   $5,299
Cart Subtotal:   $5,299
Shipping:   $90 via USA Domestic ( 5 To 7 Business Days )
Order Total:   $5,389

the site says its been shipped.  but nothing has come in.  i live in Texas i just want my money back or the 1.2ths miner.  this is my order if someone is suing i think we can do a large case suet.  but i am not a lawyer.  please any help would be greatly appreciated

How long has it said shipped? We may be on to something here. Being that you're in the first batch and have an order marked shipped, AMT might finally be delivering.

this is the email which was sent on Oct. 21. 2013

Your AMT Bitcoin Miners order from October 8, 2013 is complete

wtf i call john the guy working there.  he told me when the chips come in he would mail it out.  then i have tried to call and email.  just a few days ago i got and email.



Tue 2/25/2014 3:46 AM
Hi Amit,

our entire team is in the manufacturing facility testing and assembling.
Your miner will be shipping anytime now. I will send you the tracking number the moment when I get heads up from the assembly team. It will be any day now.

Many thanks,
Alyssa


so.. what is Alyssa's email?

this is the email on file
Advanced Mining Technologies <[email protected]>
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March 07, 2014, 11:29:57 AM
so what should i do?  
Order: #492
Product   Quantity   Price
1.2TH/s Coin Miner   1   $5,299
Cart Subtotal:   $5,299
Shipping:   $90 via USA Domestic ( 5 To 7 Business Days )
Order Total:   $5,389

the site says its been shipped.  but nothing has come in.  i live in Texas i just want my money back or the 1.2ths miner.  this is my order if someone is suing i think we can do a large case suet.  but i am not a lawyer.  please any help would be greatly appreciated

How long has it said shipped? We may be on to something here. Being that you're in the first batch and have an order marked shipped, AMT might finally be delivering.

this is the email which was sent on Oct. 21. 2013

Your AMT Bitcoin Miners order from October 8, 2013 is complete

wtf i call john the guy working there.  he told me when the chips come in he would mail it out.  then i have tried to call and email.  just a few days ago i got and email.



Tue 2/25/2014 3:46 AM
Hi Amit,

our entire team is in the manufacturing facility testing and assembling.
Your miner will be shipping anytime now. I will send you the tracking number the moment when I get heads up from the assembly team. It will be any day now.

Many thanks,
Alyssa


so.. what is Alyssa's email?
legendary
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March 07, 2014, 10:38:23 AM
looking at the form which shows the people who have pre-ordered the 1.2th/s systems.  seem to have not received them. its only the 1.2th/s.  
its only the 1.2th/s.  - Are you serious This is the ONLY problem here otherwise all is cool Grin
otep as all know here i work for amt Grin Do you supposed to be my knew colleague which i have never met?
newbie
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March 07, 2014, 10:36:51 AM
so what should i do?  
Order: #492
Product   Quantity   Price
1.2TH/s Coin Miner   1   $5,299
Cart Subtotal:   $5,299
Shipping:   $90 via USA Domestic ( 5 To 7 Business Days )
Order Total:   $5,389

the site says its been shipped.  but nothing has come in.  i live in Texas i just want my money back or the 1.2ths miner.  this is my order if someone is suing i think we can do a large case suet.  but i am not a lawyer.  please any help would be greatly appreciated

How long has it said shipped? We may be on to something here. Being that you're in the first batch and have an order marked shipped, AMT might finally be delivering.

this is the email which was sent on Oct. 21. 2013

Your AMT Bitcoin Miners order from October 8, 2013 is complete

wtf i call john the guy working there.  he told me when the chips come in he would mail it out.  then i have tried to call and email.  just a few days ago i got and email.



Tue 2/25/2014 3:46 AM
Hi Amit,

our entire team is in the manufacturing facility testing and assembling.
Your miner will be shipping anytime now. I will send you the tracking number the moment when I get heads up from the assembly team. It will be any day now.

Many thanks,
Alyssa
newbie
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March 07, 2014, 10:23:29 AM
looking at the form which shows the people who have pre-ordered the 1.2th/s systems.  seem to have not received them. its only the 1.2th/s.   
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March 07, 2014, 10:20:55 AM
so what should i do?  
Order: #492
Product   Quantity   Price
1.2TH/s Coin Miner   1   $5,299
Cart Subtotal:   $5,299
Shipping:   $90 via USA Domestic ( 5 To 7 Business Days )
Order Total:   $5,389

the site says its been shipped.  but nothing has come in.  i live in Texas i just want my money back or the 1.2ths miner.  this is my order if someone is suing i think we can do a large case suet.  but i am not a lawyer.  please any help would be greatly appreciated

How long has it said shipped? We may be on to something here. Being that you're in the first batch and have an order marked shipped, AMT might finally be delivering.
legendary
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March 07, 2014, 10:11:03 AM
so what should i do?  
Order: #492
Product   Quantity   Price
1.2TH/s Coin Miner   1   $5,299
Cart Subtotal:   $5,299
Shipping:   $90 via USA Domestic ( 5 To 7 Business Days )
Order Total:   $5,389

the site says its been shipped.  but nothing has come in.  i live in Texas i just want my money back or the 1.2ths miner.  this is my order if someone is suing i think we can do a large case suet.  but i am not a lawyer.  please any help would be greatly appreciated

Small claims court.   No lawyer required.  Here are the details:

https://bitcointalksearch.org/topic/m.5557413
newbie
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March 07, 2014, 10:06:29 AM
so what should i do?  
Order: #492
Product   Quantity   Price
1.2TH/s Coin Miner   1   $5,299
Cart Subtotal:   $5,299
Shipping:   $90 via USA Domestic ( 5 To 7 Business Days )
Order Total:   $5,389

the site says its been shipped.  but nothing has come in.  i live in Texas i just want my money back or the 1.2ths miner.  this is my order if someone is suing i think we can do a large case suet.  but i am not a lawyer.  please any help would be greatly appreciated
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March 07, 2014, 10:00:55 AM
We need a company that produces ASIC, but doesn't take preorders. That's the problem here. There's an old philosophical principle: You cannot give what you haven't got.
Avalon does that now. And I respect them for that.
legendary
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March 07, 2014, 07:59:13 AM
bASIC, BFL, HF and now AMT, God love the good old US of A!!!!!!!!!!!!!

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GjWq2Yrfz0I


Wrong Wink
I was watching  bASIC thread closely. As long as i can say bASIC lost a lot of money but they did not lie for more than a week of delays and after that little by little they have refunded 100% of money taken. I do not have comments about HF, BUT I DO COMPLETELY AGREE that AMT !EQUALS BFL Grin Grin Grin


That scammy c*** ONLY got lucky on a big spike in BTC price as I AM SURE you remember.  That being said as I recall refunds didn't actually start until the rise in price.  If coin price hadn't risen 10 fold bASIC would not have been able to refund everyone period.  He got lucky, that doesn't mean he wasn't a scamming lying piece of shit like the rest IMO.
Probably but he was brave enough to admit that US marketing skills are not enough to make ASIC after two week of delays only Wink However if bASIC was following BFL model with constant lies they would be able to deliver something after 5 months or so Wink Famous Monarch thread or BFL fucks us over again
Besides buzdave was bASIC spoksman buy that time which is some sort of proof that they were trying to do something. But they were fucked by Chinese brothers as always Grin
"That scammy c*** ONLY" as you called him just did not have enough nervs to stand the pressure and to continue with lies that is all Wink
However when  buzdave  moved to bitfry and real ENGINEERING team he became a millionaire just for half year. That is the major difference between marketing and engineering. To be a millionaire marketing skills are needed for sure but without good engineers nothing happens in bitcoin world
What about AMT? if they failed i am pretty sure that no matter of BTC spikes no one will see a single cent of refunds. Besides they do have Chips for 3 months (designed by innosilicon) and PCB designs(Bitmine most probably) including their own 4 chip famous design - proved to be lie and not working;D They need just to solve 2+2=4. But even that simple math is far more ahead of their top engineering and manufacturing skills Grin Grin Grin Grin
But their marketing and lying skills are a class No doubt Grin Grin Grin Grin Grin
PS: after typing all that i am wandering if i shall start that pre order shit it seems very easy. The only thing you need is to be a good lair that is all
Oh i forgot and BFL Sony lawyers also Wink
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March 07, 2014, 07:33:55 AM
bASIC, BFL, HF and now AMT, God love the good old US of A!!!!!!!!!!!!!

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GjWq2Yrfz0I


Wrong Wink
I was watching  bASIC thread closely. As long as i can say bASIC lost a lot of money but they did not lie for more than a week of delays and after that little by little they have refunded 100% of money taken. I do not have comments about HF, BUT I DO COMPLETELY AGREE that AMT !EQUALS BFL Grin Grin Grin


That scammy c*** ONLY got lucky on a big spike in BTC price as I AM SURE you remember.  That being said as I recall refunds didn't actually start until the rise in price.  If coin price hadn't risen 10 fold bASIC would not have been able to refund everyone period.  He got lucky, that doesn't mean he wasn't a scamming lying piece of shit like the rest IMO.
legendary
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March 07, 2014, 07:30:38 AM
bASIC, BFL, HF and now AMT, God love the good old US of A!!!!!!!!!!!!!

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GjWq2Yrfz0I


Wrong Wink
I was watching  bASIC thread closely. As long as i can say bASIC lost a lot of money but they did not lie for more than a week of delays and after that little by little they have refunded 100% of money taken. I do not have comments about HF, BUT I DO COMPLETELY AGREE that AMT !EQUALS! to BFL Grin Grin Grin
legendary
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March 07, 2014, 07:17:56 AM
bASIC, BFL, HF and now AMT, God love the good old US of A!!!!!!!!!!!!!

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GjWq2Yrfz0I

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Just a regular guy who likes his fiber.
March 07, 2014, 03:30:42 AM
Hey say they will be ready for shipping from march 18th so at least it matches some with the revised amt timeline. At least for my miner I knew I was supposed to be getting mine end of march. so We'll see.


Where did you find "the revised amt timeline"Huh

By that  I mean the newest timeline they posted here, and as I said that is for my order, your milage may vary.

sr. member
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March 07, 2014, 02:26:34 AM
AMT has been at best deceitful in 90% of their posts and at worst flat out lied to us about deliveries but were the liars.

NaranKPatel   515   10.12.2013   1.2   1   Feb 24,25, 26   N
NaranKPatel   519   10.15.2013   1.2   1   Feb 24,25, 26   N
wtiger127   521   10.14.2013   1.2   1   Feb 24,25, 26   N
russellthies   541   10.23.2013   1.2   1   Feb 24,25, 26   N
avaughn4   580   11.13.2013   520   1   Feb 24,25, 26   N
avaughn4   580   11.13.2013   1.2   1   Feb 24,25, 26   N - Order amended to add 1.2 on 02.07.2014

AMT said they shipped through order 600 so according to them everyone above is lying about not receiving their units.

and everyone below is lying that they haven't received a tracking number because things are rolling along smoothly.

I knew I couldn't trust that crunch guy. oh wait, that's me Embarrassed


clenell   610   11.11.2013   1.2   1   Feb 26,27, 28   N
rzrminer   640   11.12.2013   1.2   1   Feb 26,27, 28   N
avaughn4   650   11.13.2013   520   2   Feb 26,27, 28   N
avaughn4   650   11.13.2013   1.2   2   Feb 26,27, 28   N - Order amended to add 1.2 on 02.07.2014
cowpiboy   666   11.14.2013   520   1   Feb 26,27, 28   ?
cowpiboy   671   11.15.2013   ?   ?   Feb 26,27, 28   order cancelled
cowpiboy   672   11.15.2013   520   1   Feb 26,27, 28   ?
captin crunch   676   11.15.2013   1.2   1   Feb 26,27, 28   N
cicask8ers   686   ?   1.2   1   Feb 26,27, 28   N
? ? ? ? ? ? ?   699   11.16.2013   1.2   1   Feb 26,27, 28   N - friend of captin crunch
termonator61   700   11.19.2013   1.2   1   Feb 26,27, 28   N
cowpiboy   709   11.21.2013   1.2   1   March 3, 4, 5   N
cowpiboy   710   11.21.2013   1.2   1   March 3, 4, 5   N
captin crunch   716   11.22.2013   1.2   2   March 3, 4, 5   N
russellthies   798   11.29.2013   1.2   1   March 3, 4, 5   N
swiftshoot   803   ?   128   1   Shipped   Y
Khanduras   805   ?   128   1   Shipped   Y - 01.08.2014
C0Kez3R0   847   12.03.2013   80   1   Shipped   Y - 01.10.2014
C0Kez3R0   847   12.03.2013   1.2   1   March 5, 6, 7   N
YourPalToots   867   12.04.2013   1.2   1   March 5, 6, 7   N
fryarminer   888   12.05.2013   80   1   Shipped   Y
Chazaki   899   12.05.2013   1.2   2   March 5, 6, 7   N
legendary
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March 07, 2014, 02:03:05 AM
I never did get a confirmation from IMET if they were one of AMT's pcb manufacturers, but I'll take the geotagged picture as confirmation.

I did get a lovely response to an email I sent today.

Hello,

Order #1432 here aka **** Shaffer. I was just wondering if there were any updates on production of the miners. I did see a e-mail supposedly from one of your accounting people that there are still parts of the miner that are not yet invented. Is this the case? If so is there a revised timeline on the orders as I'm anticipating shipment no later than march 31st which your website still advertises.

If delays are going to occur will we be compensated with a 2.4 the miner if ROI is not attainable with the 1.2th units as per your Miner Protection Plan?

If you have indeed shipped units what order number have you shipped through. Any information you have would be valuable. If you were to update your news section with each lot of miners shipped it, it would help ease worry about your ability to get the miners assembled. Currently many people think you are scamming but, I'm not of them. A little  information in good faith would go a long way towards easing fears. I know you have everyone and their brother pulled for miner assembly, but if you could have someone, anyone, perhaps someone with no arms incapable of assembling the miners manning the phone it would be appreciated.

I've left multiple legitimate messages on the phone each time with the voicemail insuring me of a prompt response within 24 hours.


Jim's response:

Curt,

Production is running smoothly and we are shipping. We have yet to find the time for updates and forum is just a world of lies. Everything is fine and your is on track.

All the best
jim




So incase you were wondering we are a WORLD OF LIES. And though there are those of us on either side of the debate we are all seemed to be lumped together as liars.

So stop lying to me guys, everything is running smoothly and the ARE shipping.

This pisses me off even more. I ain't lied once. To you guys OR to AMT.
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