Topic: Official Thread: AMT - page 276. (Read 678353 times)

Here's their website https://advancedminers.com

Nope not a peep.  No responses to any of my emails

i was hoping this was not the case.

Is there anyone out there that has received anything from this company in the last month and can vouch for their quality and service?

Not sure what the thought is on deleting the OP.  Now you can't even find their website on this thread.

Good luck with that.

Ordered with AMT. Had some issues with payment but sent an email and quickly had it sorted out. Was really easy to work with, looking forward to shipping soon

He didn't say end of which month...

I thought there's a big Hashfast drama:
https://bitcointalksearch.org/topic/--391251

Looks like the Bitmine.ch folks are in China to get the packaged IC chips.

Now hoping for a fast delivery!

Hashfast is shipping end of the month.
Cointerra has the wafers but has not yet packaged the chips.
Bitmain is shipping 55 mm avalon systems.   They are now all over eBay.

Like I said, buy it, or don't... I personally don't care. Your options are all in front of you.

I am not in EU, so I could care less about EU-VAT. I linked the EU-VAT pages, and simply quoted right from the pages. I never said anything about not having to pay EU-VAT for imports. What I said was that the charges, (if they said they were taken care of), were already included in the price you see at the time of checkout, where it shows the final price. You have no idea who is handling the "payment processing" for them. Some services, like paypal and some credit-cards, do this processing for you, behind the scenes.

If THEY are committing EU-VAT fraud... then that is not YOUR problem anyways, as long as YOU pay YOUR VAT, then you are covered. If the VAT you paid, was already paid, then YOU get a VAT return. (Since that would be you paying taxes twice. Just as I am responsible for MY taxes, if the person selling to me, has not charged me taxes. If they did, and I pay more, I get it back when I file a tax-return.)

In any event, it is still YOU paying the VAT, if VAT is required. Either prior to the sale (built into the price), or at the point of import, or post-delivery. Which are the three legal/valid points of payment.

Id have bought ignorant initially. But AMT were corrected and it was explained to them, but AMT responded and maintained they "had their ways" and were in fact already shipping to customers from the EU to the EU while avoiding VAT. So scratch ignorant, we are left with either untruthful or unlawful.

And before anyone brings it up; if you are small company thats not (yet)  VAT registered, it doesnt mean you can avoid VAT for your customers. It means you cant get back the VAT you have to pay on your purchases, so VAT is paid either way. Its just paid on a little bit smaller amount if you are not adding a lot of value to the supply chain.

Posting quotes from EU-VAT pages is not the same as understanding them. But now I don't really believe you are a liar, I am sorry for calling you that, now I think you have tried to understand EU-VAT but just did not get it.

But you should never go full retard.


We living in the fantasy world called EU pay VAT everyday, don't be ignorant pulling something from EU-VAT pages you don't understand and start calling us dumb-asses.

And I don't care about AMT. I didn't post because I have something against them, I posted to stop you from spreading lies. I am actually happy you have bought from them. And I am curious to see how it turns out.

Yes, fraudulent is probably the wrong word, ignorant is better.

who cares abut vat this or vat that.. amt should just release the miners. or they should follow Id software model. release date..... "WHEN ITS DONE" or is AMT  going to do valve and not release  HL3 episode 3

Off topic... sort-of... (On topic to the last few posts.)

And now you know why BTC is growing in popularity. Now you also know why America cut the chains from British-rule/European-rule. (Only to damn themselves with British/European-like rule, that was local. lol. Damned if you do, damned if you don't.)

In any event, the next batch seems to be ordering now. Double-check directly with AMT if you have questions about VAT being covered, or if it is needed. (Since it could just be included in the price, or the units could just be shipping from within EU itself, thus not an import.)

As for the rest, who are expecting shipping soon... They have said there were possible slight delays, when they were posting a few posts back. (Holiday congestion and storms and production hiccups. Though, they said it was only a 1-2 week hiccup, I believe.) Units have gone out before, are still going out, and have been arriving. Some of the owners are also members here. Not all who purchased units are members of this forum. I have seen about eight members here, orders around #500 - #1000, admit to making a purchase. Me being one of them.

I am sure the rest of the people who purchased are about as interested in the forums, as a cat is interested in water. Less, now that all this B.S. and petty crap is thrown around the only "Official post", which was redacted, then re-titled by a MOD. (Thus, is no longer an official post, since the OP has given up on playing reindeer games with the children of the forum.)

So, in essence, this is the "Official Thread: AMT", which is, by re-possession, officially the MODs post.

I will personally be posting my full break-down and review and mods, for the 1.2THs miner, in another thread. This thread is just wasted space now, and should be locked until it dies, after having the title stripped again. Since it wasn't AMT that re-titled it, and a non-owner/non-employee re-titled it.

Actually only fraudulent if they knew it to be untrue. People in the US tend to think of VAT as sales tax and they do not understand that when they ship from here people there still have to pay the tax. I think you should use the term ignorant as opposed to fraudulent. Too many inflammatory terms are being throw around here.

Dumb-ass, My QUOTE is right from the legal pages of the EU-VAT pages, found from google, made by the EU-GOVT. So you are calling the EU-GOVT a liar, not me.

Follow the links above the quotes. That is sort of standard quotation, to show sources. I can't help it if your own country screws you, limiting you with crappy taxes and telling you what you can spend your money on. Because my country does similar things to me.

I buy things, I sell things, I pay MY taxes, I charge you MORE when your country tells me I have to pay YOUR taxes for you. That is just how the world works. Not every place online has only ONE shipping location. Like they said, the location they are at, is just an OFFICE, not a factory. You personally have no clue where the units are coming from, what country, or who is assembling them. They do.

If you noticed, they simply stopped answering these stupid questions. They answered them once, and now it is just up to you make a decision and order something, or ignore it. If you ordered, you just have to wait the time they stated, and all will be good. If it isn't good, then you do what other normal people do, contact them. (Forums are not a business point of contact. They are a public-forum for chatting about something.)

I do know how VAT works.

Again, you morons are just morons. I pulled the links and quotes right from the EU-VAT legal pages. (Zaghomo, you just contradicted yourself, and said the exact same thing I just did.)

Obviously, you guys still have nothing else better to do, than create fictitious situations that don't exists, and pretend they do. So I will let you continue to play in your fantasy world.

Don't order. It's just that simple. The longer you wait to order something from anyone, the less you will have anyways. Your ignorance will only ensure you have nothing, or only debt, so I am glad that you don't think they are legit. Less competition for me, for mining.

AMT wins either way. I win either way. You just lose... Again...

ISAWHIM, you have no idea how VAT work so stop spreading bullshit. I'm gonna make it simple for you: you always pay VAT in EU, the only exception is a VAT registered business selling to another VAT registered business in another EU country.

In AMT's defense, they said 1-2 weeks off expected, not actual.

I guess you werent shilling hard enough, so you didnt qualify for their "1 TO 2 WEEKS OFF THE EXPECTED SHIPPING TIME FRAME" shill bonus.