I'm just amazed Barbecue Flambe' Liability has not been sued over their literally flaming PSU problems... Is not good when the Majik Smoke is released... Oh-oh... OT! Um, oh yeah, folks make sure that your TH miner PSU(s) has good access to air.
There. Does that do it?
Topic: Official Thread: AMT - page 29. (Read 678353 times)
Thanks notfuzzywarm, with so many links on news articles to this forum, they need to do something to stop the bleeding
ja. opieum2 has given AMT a lot of sound advice on PR. Hopefully they will take some of it to heart.Not sure if this will make it past the mods but, as been said before look at BFL: Even worse delays, had (and yes, still has) customers screaming about it and yet once they started communicating and acting on the refund issues - which took a long time and lawsuits/threat of same to do it - that mostly has been turned around reasonably well. If they can do it so can AMT.
I just want a refund.
And I along with so many others hope that AMT steps up to the plate and gives it to you.I will just be happy eventually getting my miner. To tide me over until then, got 2 more Ant S1's arriving tomorrow making 6 for me Ant Pharm...
Always love the "not usable in the UK" bit. Most PSU's are auto-range for voltage and if not then have a selector switch, can handle 50Hz just fine and have standard IEC receptacles on them. All they need is the right cord for the plug end or a pin adapter...
Almost 300 pages of me asking for a refund.
I've been asking for refund or shipment in private. Neither one of us has made any progress with AMT.
I remember why, because AMT is FULL OF SHIT!!!!
I can't wait for the day that CoinDesk reports "AMT Owners get hauled off to prison after trying to escape to Bulgaria".
AMT, all you have to do is start refunding everyone. I wouldn't mind seeing you hauled off to prison. You deserve it.
We shipped his rig yesterday, we're trying to find his tracking number in the moment.
Here's a free tip. When you create shipping labels, you can enter the recipient's email address. That way the recipient gets a nice tracking email automatically! No need to hunt through thousands of receipts littering the back seat of your Pinto.
Since AMT has a corporate account at Fedex, it'll only take less than a minute to retrieve the info from Fedex's site. Same true for UPS, of which I shipped yesterday and already have an account I can visit online to hunt all past and future orders.
i did receive my tracking number today as quoted. they "found" my tracking number and e.mailed me it today and shipped miner (diy kit)yesterday
We shipped his rig yesterday, we're trying to find his tracking number in the moment.
Here's a free tip. When you create shipping labels, you can enter the recipient's email address. That way the recipient gets a nice tracking email automatically! No need to hunt through thousands of receipts littering the back seat of your Pinto.
Since AMT has a corporate account at Fedex, it'll only take less than a minute to retrieve the info from Fedex's site. Same true for UPS, of which I shipped yesterday and already have an account I can visit online to hunt all past and future orders.
i did receive my tracking number today as quoted. they "found" my tracking number and e.mailed me it today and shipped miner (diy kit)yesterday
For anyone that would like to see the lies that I have received from AMT to add to their list of lies. Newbies stay away (you've been warned multiple times by everyone here).
So what's the excuse this time AMT? I'm in USA, you can't use some lame international shipment excuse or that I'm a late order number. I have requested the DIY and still haven't received anything. I'm orders 580 and 650 so I should be one of the first to receive a DIY considering I'm low in the queue and payed you in full well within a week of ordering.
Why don't you just come clean and refund everyone before you wind up in the State Penn.? I bet this is the reason you are running to Toronto. Because the truth is you have not been shipping to anyone. You'll be lucky to only be there for 7 years after everything is said and done.
I think we should all make an effort to get AMT members in prison so they can no longer harm anyone else. What's that AMT you are working hard to fill orders? BULLSHIT!!!
On 4/4/2014 4:17 PM, Advanced Miners wrote:
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> Your kits are ready and will be shipped tomorrow. (AMT did not ship anything.)
>
> Best Regards,
> Alyssa
On 3/6/2014 10:45 AM, Advanced Miners wrote:
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> Your miners will be sent out very soon, monday. (Do you mean some Monday next year?)
>
> Jim
On 1/28/2014 10:17 PM, Advanced Miners wrote:
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> Just got the chips in today really, surface goes through on monday, and we'll be rockin and rolling then. By the end of next week your miners will ship. (They have been promising to ship since forever ago. In hindsight this is getting hilarious.)
>
> All the best
>
> Jim.
On 1/9/2014 12:13 PM, Jim Brown wrote:
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> We are still waiting on chips. The machines your ordered require the 28nm chip. I know you ordered a long time ago, I'll personally find some way to compensate you for the wait. Do not announce that on the forum because we dont want to compensate a lot of people, but i'll take care of you as best I can. (Here they are admitting to not post on the forum.)
>
> All the best
>
> Jim.
So what's the excuse this time AMT? I'm in USA, you can't use some lame international shipment excuse or that I'm a late order number. I have requested the DIY and still haven't received anything. I'm orders 580 and 650 so I should be one of the first to receive a DIY considering I'm low in the queue and payed you in full well within a week of ordering.
Why don't you just come clean and refund everyone before you wind up in the State Penn.? I bet this is the reason you are running to Toronto. Because the truth is you have not been shipping to anyone. You'll be lucky to only be there for 7 years after everything is said and done.
I think we should all make an effort to get AMT members in prison so they can no longer harm anyone else. What's that AMT you are working hard to fill orders? BULLSHIT!!!
On 4/4/2014 4:17 PM, Advanced Miners wrote:
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> Your kits are ready and will be shipped tomorrow. (AMT did not ship anything.)
>
> Best Regards,
> Alyssa
On 3/6/2014 10:45 AM, Advanced Miners wrote:
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> Your miners will be sent out very soon, monday. (Do you mean some Monday next year?)
>
> Jim
On 1/28/2014 10:17 PM, Advanced Miners wrote:
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> Just got the chips in today really, surface goes through on monday, and we'll be rockin and rolling then. By the end of next week your miners will ship. (They have been promising to ship since forever ago. In hindsight this is getting hilarious.)
>
> All the best
>
> Jim.
On 1/9/2014 12:13 PM, Jim Brown wrote:
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> We are still waiting on chips. The machines your ordered require the 28nm chip. I know you ordered a long time ago, I'll personally find some way to compensate you for the wait. Do not announce that on the forum because we dont want to compensate a lot of people, but i'll take care of you as best I can. (Here they are admitting to not post on the forum.)
>
> All the best
>
> Jim.
What I have highlighted seems really odd considering...
Hey Guys,
Quick update, chips arrived today and will go to full surface mount and assembly on Tuesday. Hoping to get the first AMT1.2's shipped by Friday.
More to come...
Quick update, chips arrived today and will go to full surface mount and assembly on Tuesday. Hoping to get the first AMT1.2's shipped by Friday.
More to come...
We were due to be on the expo today, booth 401, we were going to demo our 2.4's, but in light of this news we felt its best to go to Toronto instead.
This sentence doesn't make sense. It might be missing a "not". Or is that where Josh was driving last night?
correction
"We were due to be on the expo today, booth 401, we were going to demo our 2.4's, but in light of this news we felt its best not to go and to go to Toronto instead.
At this point, AMT needs to prioritize all the delayed orders. No point in demo'ing some future machine if you can't deliver to anyone who purchased back in 2013.
I am waiting for the tracking # today. This is what Jim Brown has promised. Please do not screw up the delivery!
BTW... if you don't plan on using booth 401, can I take over that booth?
Hashfast has first dibs on Booth Error 401, since they, too, had to vacate their iconic booth at CES due to too many unhappy customers with pitchforks blocking paying customers.
Speaking of paying customers, what's the purpose of setting up a booth at an expo to garner orders when AMT's lawyer, Josh's sister, advised them against doing such?
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Yes we turned it off for new orders as our lawyers have advised of it,...
Well legally (or on the advice of their lawyer) they could be getting halted from taking on new orders while they have the current ones to fulfill. That or after they are done with current orders they are closing up shop. Likely can't do that until they have their existing orders fulfilled or refunded. Their lawyer may have suggested that and it makes perfect legal sense. Might want to note they took down the old rendering of the 1.2 miner vs the 1.2 with the antec case. Looks like they are covering their bases. I have yet to see any notification in email since 1428 went out. Not expecting one today at this point. But hey I might actually be surprised. But somehow I doubt it. Also I like the GEICO Pinocchio better fits our real world a bit better. http://www.marketmenot.com/geico-pinocchio-bad-motivational-speaker-commercial/
I think the only way to get their attention is to get on their bad side. Maybe troll them a bit. Seems to work for everyone else on here to get a reply. OTOH since I am apparently among the last in the queue and well 1428 already is getting his order. I presumed I would be hearing something. But I think a few days or soon is my answer vs an actual commitment
The point I was trying to relay is what's the point in attending an expo to garner future sales when AMT was instructed to not do such by their lawyer, even foregoing the NYS conference due to being served lawsuit papers they claimed they've yet to receive.
We shipped his rig yesterday, we're trying to find his tracking number in the moment.
Here's a free tip. When you create shipping labels, you can enter the recipient's email address. That way the recipient gets a nice tracking email automatically! No need to hunt through thousands of receipts littering the back seat of your Pinto.
Since AMT has a corporate account at Fedex, it'll only take less than a minute to retrieve the info from Fedex's site. Same true for UPS, of which I shipped yesterday and already have an account I can visit online to hunt all past and future orders.
i did receive my tracking number today as quoted. they "found" my tracking number and e.mailed me it today and shipped miner (diy kit)yesterday
We shipped his rig yesterday, we're trying to find his tracking number in the moment.
Here's a free tip. When you create shipping labels, you can enter the recipient's email address. That way the recipient gets a nice tracking email automatically! No need to hunt through thousands of receipts littering the back seat of your Pinto.
Since AMT has a corporate account at Fedex, it'll only take less than a minute to retrieve the info from Fedex's site. Same true for UPS, of which I shipped yesterday and already have an account I can visit online to hunt all past and future orders.
Tracking number has been received. Should be here in a couple of days.
Order #?
867. It left haverford yesterday and is in MD now.
Did you opt for the kit?
Hey AMT,
I have called about once a day for the past week or so and left one or two messages. I'm order #700 and I was wondering what my status was. I look forward to hearing from you (either by phone, e-mail, or right here on the forum) and keep up the good work!
All the best,
Allen Myers
I have called about once a day for the past week or so and left one or two messages. I'm order #700 and I was wondering what my status was. I look forward to hearing from you (either by phone, e-mail, or right here on the forum) and keep up the good work!
All the best,
Allen Myers
people taking amt to court did you read fully the ts n cs? they seem pretty tight.
i bring attention to the part that says you cannot resale your miner
• Resale Prohibited. Unless expressly authorized in writing by AMT, you shall not resell Product(s). If you breach the terms of this paragraph, in addition to AMT’s cancellation rights, you agree to fully indemnify AMT, its officers, employees and distributors from any and all resulting liability, including attorneys’ fees and costs.
and this which i believe says in short. if its not our fault then we cant accept responsibility
• Excusable Delay. AMT shall not be liable for any delay or failure to perform due to any cause beyond its control or the control of its suppliers or subcontractors such as, for example, strikes, acts of God, acts of Buyer, Acts of Financial Payment Processing institutions, including freezing/holding of accounts, consumer payments, and interruption of transportation or inability to obtain the necessary labor, materials or facilities. Delivery schedules shall be considered extended by a period of time which AMT deems necessary due to the event circumstances or cause of delay. In the event AMT is unable wholly or partially to perform because of any such cause it may cancel its acceptance of Buyer’s order without liability to Buyer
and this little bomb shell
Consumer Refund. AMT will only provide financial refunds if AMT is at fault for noncompliance with these terms and conditions, and any/all future terms and conditions AMT publishes and/or makes notice of.
• Dispute Resolution. AMT and Buyer will attempt to settle all claims (other than claims relating to intellectual property issues) through negotiation or non-binding mediation prior to commencement of court proceedings.
i hope you dont loose your court cases due to that...... damages zipkins way.
http://advancedminers.com/terms-of-sale-consumer/
i bring attention to the part that says you cannot resale your miner
• Resale Prohibited. Unless expressly authorized in writing by AMT, you shall not resell Product(s). If you breach the terms of this paragraph, in addition to AMT’s cancellation rights, you agree to fully indemnify AMT, its officers, employees and distributors from any and all resulting liability, including attorneys’ fees and costs.
and this which i believe says in short. if its not our fault then we cant accept responsibility
• Excusable Delay. AMT shall not be liable for any delay or failure to perform due to any cause beyond its control or the control of its suppliers or subcontractors such as, for example, strikes, acts of God, acts of Buyer, Acts of Financial Payment Processing institutions, including freezing/holding of accounts, consumer payments, and interruption of transportation or inability to obtain the necessary labor, materials or facilities. Delivery schedules shall be considered extended by a period of time which AMT deems necessary due to the event circumstances or cause of delay. In the event AMT is unable wholly or partially to perform because of any such cause it may cancel its acceptance of Buyer’s order without liability to Buyer
and this little bomb shell
Consumer Refund. AMT will only provide financial refunds if AMT is at fault for noncompliance with these terms and conditions, and any/all future terms and conditions AMT publishes and/or makes notice of.
• Dispute Resolution. AMT and Buyer will attempt to settle all claims (other than claims relating to intellectual property issues) through negotiation or non-binding mediation prior to commencement of court proceedings.
i hope you dont loose your court cases due to that...... damages zipkins way.
http://advancedminers.com/terms-of-sale-consumer/
I think there are many laws that were previously on the books that superseded these blanket statements. The one federal law about notifying the customer in 30 days of delays, is in direct conflict with this. (who do you think a judge would go with?) You might get away with writing some of this stuff on eBay, but it's not real world. And, even eBay will give you a refund when you ask.
there are laws that say you must be paid a minimum wage but if you accept a later written declaration or contract that waiver the rights then you dont have a leg to stand on. in my leyman understanding of this, this waives any responsibility of amt to delays outside of their control i.e the recent psu issues. much like bfls statement of the "3 months +" delivery date on pre orders and "all sales are final" (no refunds)
i am not professing that i have any law knowledge but if you accepted the terms after applicable laws this is what a judge 'may' say. you wavered any responsibility upon purchase. amt wins. lol.
AMT didn't seem to have any problems with supplies when they posted the following:
Hey Guys,
Quick update, chips arrived today and will go to full surface mount and assembly on Tuesday. Hoping to get the first AMT1.2's shipped by Friday.
More to come...
Could you at least tell us how many chips you got so we can at least figure out how many rigs you can build and ship quickly?
Also, is another batch of chips coming?
I can tell you that we've received a lot. And enough to make it to your order and than some for sure.
We also have 12 assemblers located at our CM 8am to 4pm. Each of which has experience in building electronic components and devices that pass UL certification and ISO standards. The average build time per build team (2 assemblers each team) was clocked at 2.5 hrs per build. This includes wiring, assembly, modular install, initial testing, and packing.
So if they are working 8 hrs a day, 5 days a week, how many miners can we build in 1 day? How many in 1 week? and How many in 1 month?
If they did, they wouldn't have needed 12 assemblers. In fact, they wouldn't have needed one, for they would've been short supplies.
Also, I still can't figure out that will all the supplies on hand, all them assemblers, and hundreds of miners shipped up to last week (their own words), how the hell they missed shipping to a single person having a low queue position as shown on a list in a thread on this forum.
Two dozens barkers, and nary a one fed unless they showed up at the office, then at least one walked away sans what they were promised to be delivered mano-y-mano.
Tracking number has been received. Should be here in a couple of days.
Order #?
867. It left haverford yesterday and is in MD now.
Where's this so called release AMT? It's all BULLSHIT!!!
You aren't going to refund anyone! I've been asking for a refund or a shipment for well over a month. Go back to sitting on your hands. You'll have plenty of time for that behind bars.
You aren't going to refund anyone! I've been asking for a refund or a shipment for well over a month. Go back to sitting on your hands. You'll have plenty of time for that behind bars.
Also this lawsuit has revised our thoughts on refunds/upgrades. We feel, even though our financial situation isn't one of the best, that partial refunds or partial upgrades are due to our clients. We're working out a program and will release notice of which by the end of the day.
So every individual name is unique... You are so naive...
I see dozens of "Joshua Zipkin", more in PA also... Seems a common name, like mine is. There are 53 of me, same full name and middle initial, two in my state, none are me.
https://pipl.com/directory/name/Zipkin/Joshua/
Oh 114,000 results for that specific name... Joshua, you type a lot! lol.
https://www.google.com/search?q=Joshua+Zipkin
Leave detective work to actual detectives.
So which is it... he is living in PA... or Bulgaria... How is he in both places at the same time! Show me that trick. He isn't Derren Brown!
I don't see any retorts to "Customers", I see retorts to "Trolls", who are not customers. They apparently have "done their detective work", and are sure about "not making a purchase". (No they are not, they are interested in trolling, to get a rise from AMT. Playing childish games.)
Just ignore the posts.
P.S. This was not intended to implicate Josh, or invade on his privacy, or the privacy of any other listed Joshua Zipkins, found on the public records, by google. (I apologize to all 28 of you!)
I see dozens of "Joshua Zipkin", more in PA also... Seems a common name, like mine is. There are 53 of me, same full name and middle initial, two in my state, none are me.
https://pipl.com/directory/name/Zipkin/Joshua/
Oh 114,000 results for that specific name... Joshua, you type a lot! lol.
https://www.google.com/search?q=Joshua+Zipkin
Leave detective work to actual detectives.
So which is it... he is living in PA... or Bulgaria... How is he in both places at the same time! Show me that trick. He isn't Derren Brown!
I don't see any retorts to "Customers", I see retorts to "Trolls", who are not customers. They apparently have "done their detective work", and are sure about "not making a purchase". (No they are not, they are interested in trolling, to get a rise from AMT. Playing childish games.)
Just ignore the posts.
P.S. This was not intended to implicate Josh, or invade on his privacy, or the privacy of any other listed Joshua Zipkins, found on the public records, by google. (I apologize to all 28 of you!)
Hes one of the guys that works in our office. Please remove this post as its very intrusive. Otherwise we'll have to make the new CEO
Then why is Joshua Zipkin named in the lawsuit if he is just some schmuck that works in AMT's office?
Since AMT is on record of not being liars, then something's amiss here eh.
Tracking number has been received. Should be here in a couple of days.
Order #?
Tracking number has been received. Should be here in a couple of days.
More news coming out about AMT:
http://www.mainlinemedianews.com/articles/2014/04/05/main_line_times/news/doc533f060816225914962669.txt?viewmode=fullstory
This one has some color to it: “This spurred Defendant Zipkin to promptly reply, ‘Seriously? Stop screwing around man. We sent your check out last week!’ ” However, 10 days later Lenell reported in the suit that he still hadn’t received anything. On March 16, Lenell told Zipkin that he was going to file a complaint with the Better Business Bureau. That is when they say in the suit that Zipkin revoked his prior offer and said because of Lenell’s “hostility and complaints, we’ll just ship you a miner next week.”
https://coinreport.net/lawsuit-mining-hardware-company-amt/
While this one has a warning to other manufacturers: "Having a lawsuit filed against a Bitcoin mining hardware company shows that other mining companies need to step up their game."
http://www.mainlinemedianews.com/articles/2014/04/05/main_line_times/news/doc533f060816225914962669.txt?viewmode=fullstory
This one has some color to it: “This spurred Defendant Zipkin to promptly reply, ‘Seriously? Stop screwing around man. We sent your check out last week!’ ” However, 10 days later Lenell reported in the suit that he still hadn’t received anything. On March 16, Lenell told Zipkin that he was going to file a complaint with the Better Business Bureau. That is when they say in the suit that Zipkin revoked his prior offer and said because of Lenell’s “hostility and complaints, we’ll just ship you a miner next week.”
https://coinreport.net/lawsuit-mining-hardware-company-amt/
While this one has a warning to other manufacturers: "Having a lawsuit filed against a Bitcoin mining hardware company shows that other mining companies need to step up their game."
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