What company is that?
Bitmain with their antminer:
https://bitcointalksearch.org/topic/announcement-bitmain-launches-antminer-solution-068-jgh-on-chip-330665
Topic: Official Thread: AMT - page 305. (Read 678353 times)
Bitmain with their antminer:
https://bitcointalksearch.org/topic/announcement-bitmain-launches-antminer-solution-068-jgh-on-chip-330665
+1 even if they prove so hard that they are not scam they seem to be amateurs who can't get their shit together.. i wonder how bitmine.ch entrusted them exclusive distributorship... in addition they need to work even harder to beat the new kid on the block that can ship you within 2-3 days for 0.025btc/Gh...
What company is that?
I plan on ordering from this after anyone on the forums posts a confirmation. Or pics/vids from the company itself. Until then, I'll sit on preorders from known vendors.
You wrote this back in september:
Am I right guessing that now in December, there is still no such video? Nor any independent proof of your hardware existing?
We're in the process of making quality videos which demonstrate our miners, and should have that out to you guys in the near future.
Am I right guessing that now in December, there is still no such video? Nor any independent proof of your hardware existing?
Can you explain your thinking on why you placed the mining cards in a HDD cage that restricts airflow that much, and then further chose to orient the heatsink so that the front to back airflow from the fan can't pass through the fins? Those heatsinks are going to be just short of useless unless you're only dissipating a couple dozen watts per board.
+1 even if they prove so hard that they are not scam they seem to be amateurs who can't get their shit together.. i wonder how bitmine.ch entrusted them exclusive distributorship... in addition they need to work even harder to beat the new kid on the block that can ship you within 2-3 days for 0.025btc/Gh...
So you are basically showing your visitors physical proof that you are capable of taking people's money (sales and accounting), but not producing miner (no manufacturing, no samples, no demo)?
Perfect! You just prove your company is a scam.
GUYS! Hi!
The place will be up and ready the next week and we will accept visitors. Please understand the following:
1. This will not be where we build the actual miners. This will not be where we house or store the actual miners.
2. This is a sales and accounting shop for visitors to see we're legit, speak with someone from the company owners, drop off checks and pick up miners up that are ready.
3. We may at times have miners ready or available for demoing but nothing will be available for purchase in the moment. Do not bring cash with you and offer to pay more for a miner on the spot. It is not an option, we are not BFL, and we want to treat our customers equally and fairly so they continue to order and buy from us.
4. Please schedule a meeting in advance and don't just drop by. If you drop by we're going to be like wtf why didn't you schedule something in advance. We understand some people have been trying to schedule something up already so therefore we have set up a specific email for visitors so that these requests get directly to right individual in the company that will be in charge of scheduling these appoints.
We apologize for the disorganization in this matter until now, but please just understand we are a start-up in a crazy industry and we are hard at work.
Visits can start from the 16th. We're actually moving into this location on the 12th thats why. All visitors that would like to come can email and schedule their appointment via email on
[email protected]
give me like an hour or so to set up the email.
The place will be up and ready the next week and we will accept visitors. Please understand the following:
1. This will not be where we build the actual miners. This will not be where we house or store the actual miners.
2. This is a sales and accounting shop for visitors to see we're legit, speak with someone from the company owners, drop off checks and pick up miners up that are ready.
3. We may at times have miners ready or available for demoing but nothing will be available for purchase in the moment. Do not bring cash with you and offer to pay more for a miner on the spot. It is not an option, we are not BFL, and we want to treat our customers equally and fairly so they continue to order and buy from us.
4. Please schedule a meeting in advance and don't just drop by. If you drop by we're going to be like wtf why didn't you schedule something in advance. We understand some people have been trying to schedule something up already so therefore we have set up a specific email for visitors so that these requests get directly to right individual in the company that will be in charge of scheduling these appoints.
We apologize for the disorganization in this matter until now, but please just understand we are a start-up in a crazy industry and we are hard at work.
Visits can start from the 16th. We're actually moving into this location on the 12th thats why. All visitors that would like to come can email and schedule their appointment via email on
[email protected]
give me like an hour or so to set up the email.
So you are basically showing your visitors physical proof that you are capable of taking people's money (sales and accounting), but not producing miner (no manufacturing, no samples, no demo)?
Perfect! You just prove your company is a scam.
GUYS! Hi!
The place will be up and ready the next week and we will accept visitors. Please understand the following:
1. This will not be where we build the actual miners. This will not be where we house or store the actual miners.
2. This is a sales and accounting shop for visitors to see we're legit, speak with someone from the company owners, drop off checks and pick up miners up that are ready.
3. We may at times have miners ready or available for demoing but nothing will be available for purchase in the moment. Do not bring cash with you and offer to pay more for a miner on the spot. It is not an option, we are not BFL, and we want to treat our customers equally and fairly so they continue to order and buy from us.
4. Please schedule a meeting in advance and don't just drop by. If you drop by we're going to be like wtf why didn't you schedule something in advance. We understand some people have been trying to schedule something up already so therefore we have set up a specific email for visitors so that these requests get directly to right individual in the company that will be in charge of scheduling these appoints.
We apologize for the disorganization in this matter until now, but please just understand we are a start-up in a crazy industry and we are hard at work.
Visits can start from the 16th. We're actually moving into this location on the 12th thats why. All visitors that would like to come can email and schedule their appointment via email on
[email protected]
give me like an hour or so to set up the email.
The place will be up and ready the next week and we will accept visitors. Please understand the following:
1. This will not be where we build the actual miners. This will not be where we house or store the actual miners.
2. This is a sales and accounting shop for visitors to see we're legit, speak with someone from the company owners, drop off checks and pick up miners up that are ready.
3. We may at times have miners ready or available for demoing but nothing will be available for purchase in the moment. Do not bring cash with you and offer to pay more for a miner on the spot. It is not an option, we are not BFL, and we want to treat our customers equally and fairly so they continue to order and buy from us.
4. Please schedule a meeting in advance and don't just drop by. If you drop by we're going to be like wtf why didn't you schedule something in advance. We understand some people have been trying to schedule something up already so therefore we have set up a specific email for visitors so that these requests get directly to right individual in the company that will be in charge of scheduling these appoints.
We apologize for the disorganization in this matter until now, but please just understand we are a start-up in a crazy industry and we are hard at work.
Visits can start from the 16th. We're actually moving into this location on the 12th thats why. All visitors that would like to come can email and schedule their appointment via email on
[email protected]
give me like an hour or so to set up the email.
So you are basically showing your visitors physical proof that you are capable of taking people's money (sales and accounting), but not producing miner (no manufacturing, no samples, no demo)?
Perfect! You just prove your company is a scam.
Has anyone received a miner that ships within 3-4 weeks of payment?
I believe all ASICMiner products shipped within that timeframe. As did Burnin's Bitfury boards. Also Bitmain's auctions were all sent within 48hours of payment as far as I could tell.
I think he wants someone who actually received a unit to chime in.
Has anyone received a miner that ships within 3-4 weeks of payment?
I believe all ASICMiner products shipped within that timeframe. As did Burnin's Bitfury boards. Also Bitmain's auctions were all sent within 48hours of payment as far as I could tell.
Has anyone received a miner that ships within 3-4 weeks of payment?
Here is their office building... Also a their website has no SSL cert (Correction their main page does but as soon as you proceed to the shopping cart you are directed to http). People should proceed with caution as they have yet to put forward any documentation indicating that they have working prototype's.
The WHOIS info did not turn up any info that would re-assure customers - http://www.whois.com/whois/advancedminers.com
The WHOIS info did not turn up any info that would re-assure customers - http://www.whois.com/whois/advancedminers.com
Its nice that AMT folks are posting on the thread. I'd really like to hear from a customer. Or see an unboxing video, etc. I have money waiting to be spent with someone.
You won't because they haven't shipped anything yet. And even if they did your money spent now would only buy you something shipping in February.
No Bif.. death of salesman reference?
We have been shipping but did anyone ever think that maybe we havn't sold as much as KNC or the other guys? And the batches we ship are smaller!?
ALSO February is for the 1.2th! becuase we're backed up with pre-orders.
But if they want an 80ghs or a 128ghs those ship in 3 to 4 weeks from the date of payment.
No worries, I should maybe have said it "appears" that they haven't been shipping.
However you do have to agree that given that you are only now getting the cases organized and you haven't been able to show full shots of the chips or boards or a working system, it makes it hard to imagine what you are shipping.
Unless of course you are shipping something other than the systems you are showing on the site.
Can you provide us with a photograph of one of the working systems that you have shipped? Surely someone must have taken a phone pic or something when the first ones started coming off the production line and going out the door?
I think it would go a long way to pursuading people who are sitting on the fence to place orders, which surely is what you want.
ALSO February is for the 1.2th! becuase we're backed up with pre-orders.
But if they want an 80ghs or a 128ghs those ship in 3 to 4 weeks from the date of payment.
But if they want an 80ghs or a 128ghs those ship in 3 to 4 weeks from the date of payment.
Thanks. I am considering going in on the 128 and just wanted to see if it's still an option to pick up once it's ready since you're moving offices. Just wanted to make sure that's still an option.
Pick up is still an option, when a clients miner is ready we send them an email like
"Hi, your miner is ready - please come pick it up - please bring proof of purchase/transfer, ID -etc" So during this transition over the next few weeks we will inform them to pickup at the havertown location or the new office off lancaster ave.
Why the stock mITX cases? Lian Li right? Seems expensive for miner cases, I assume this is just to mock up?
Black:
http://www.lian-li.com/en/dt_portfolio/pc-q08/ (circa $100)
Silver:
http://www.lian-li.com/en/dt_portfolio/pc-q07/ (circa $55)
I've been watching this thread.
Yes, lets hope this is a mock-up because the pictures, as posted leave me skeptical, but way less so than if I had actually fronted some money.
Some flaws, as I see them:
1) Although there is plenty of space, the heatsinks are mounted BELOW the sources of heat. wtF?
2) the HDD enclosure and heatsinks appear to have flakes of aluminum or something shiny... never a good thing to mill and drill near the components, could be mistaken
3) I dont see any sort of comm bus between the boards or anywhere else.. unless those 3 connector terminal blocks are for some really snappy RS232/422/485...
4) how does one comm with the overall device? a NIC or some I can't quite make out?
5) Not much air movement from the powersupply fan facing the side of the case... and why not just use the powersupply MOUNT? Is that supply just positioned in the middle of
the case for some reason? to make the case appear full?
6) pricing... 1.2THs/5999USD
7) no wattage etc specs posted on the site, which is barely operational, except for the 'pay with these methods' part?
most all the commentary and pics up to this point, and yes, I also watched the video. 9) that camera may be the miner, may provide > hashrate than the item behind it
AMT, you guys might take a page out of BTC-e's playbook and advertise 1.2THs for 15-20% lower than anyone else, you'll get a lot more SUCKAs.
-or- PROVE me wrong, I want nothing more that for some additional players to get into hardware.
Again the question will go out there:
ANYONE, ANYONE?
COME FORWARD if you are a satisfied customer, show us the specs, in vids/pictures?
Lian li is very expensive, but they are also one of the best in the industry regarding casing for computers and case design for custom computers and machines. So yea we're going to pay double or maybe triple what our competitors pay for a great case.
Buy why?
1. we can rely on lian li to have surplus of stock cases (encase our cases aren't ready yet) and no delays.
2. they offer a really nice quality product and a high quality casing and in a market who's consumer basis is growing, the non-tech guys might just choose the prettiest most familiar looking device.
3. There is no reason why we can't make a pretty miner, if our pricing is reasonable and if we choose to take a loss on profit by making a pretty miner, its our loss. Also we feel it will expand our consumer basis because regular people are generally intimidated of computer components will choose to buy our miner because it looks simple and more like something they are familiar with. - and again it will be pretty.
4. Expansion sections for mounting new drives/boards. The bottom of the smaller cases comes with an expansion rack, this will be standard in each of our machines, this way the customer can order a coincraft board + heatsink and micro fans (fans similar to the ones that go under a 3.5 drive) from us, and mount it on the bottom, turning the bottom of that case into an extra 220 ghs.
I'm going to break this down by number if that's alright.
1. The air pressure coming from the front side fan pushes the negative heat over and under the boards and out the top ventilation fan. It really does not matter if the boards are up or down because of that airflow design. That design is not the most practical but because bitfury chips dont get too hot, we can get away with it and ship in a case which is available at the moment. This is the same case that is being modified for our miners from lian li and we are going to be a distributor of their casing and casing components as well.
2. That flaky shiny thing you see this is a locking mechanism on the front of the cage, this allows for a strong hold of the boards.
3. This is just a case with boards - no cables actually. the boards connect via usb and 4 pin molex which are placed in the back of the board but connected with shorter cables. On the 1.2 we'll have a nice backboard like the snappy setup you're referring to.
4. TPlink and or USB cables. You can connect the tplink directly to your router at home and leave it to mine. The nulled TPlink firmware image comes with CGMiner along with a API code if you'd like to use a more user friendly software that integrates with a cgiminer api. Or connect the inbound usb cable connected to the tplink directly to your computer and mine with Hexminer.
5. I dont have a good answer for that one.. period.
6. Yes that is the price of the 1.2th - correct.
7. For the 80,128,192, and 220, Each board needs about 80W Each board gets up to 51ghs but call it 45 just to be safe. - you do the math on what supply we'll put in the case depending on which model is ordered.
8. -?
9. -?
Regarding clients that have received our miners, we think because we never really sold to forum guys thats why no one is posting on the forum. We want to be 100% sure we can continue to make bitfury based miner before we publish a video on it.
We feel our pricing is ok, we have some discounts in the future but we want to be absolutely sure we can cover all costs expected and unexpected.
A good thing my grandfather once told me (He owned one of the most known Deli's on the main line to do this day, and still the best place in town to get a corned beef sandwhich on a rye) he said, "What ever you think you'll need for your business, think again, and then double or triple it. You may have less customers but you'll have a more happy customer because you'll do your job right and better than anyone else".
ill pay now please 
ALSO February is for the 1.2th! becuase we're backed up with pre-orders.
But if they want an 80ghs or a 128ghs those ship in 3 to 4 weeks from the date of payment.
But if they want an 80ghs or a 128ghs those ship in 3 to 4 weeks from the date of payment.
Thanks. I am considering going in on the 128 and just wanted to see if it's still an option to pick up once it's ready since you're moving offices. Just wanted to make sure that's still an option.
So, AMT, my own emails and messages have gone unanswered as well. I'm within driving radius of your office; are there any units for sale at this time of any capability or hashrate that I could purchase for cash or BTC in person? I'd be happy to post my experience here in the forum as a recommendation, fwtw.
Bsnmine - we apologize for not answering them but it was because we didnt have a full place of our own yet but now we're getting on have provided instructions on how to schedule a visit in this thread.
I can go stop by the current address this week if anyone wants to pay for gas, should be about $10 (they are ~70 mi from where I work). My BTC address is in the sig.
I'll be sure to post pics of the place and if someone wants to find out anything specific about the place let me know. I'll update this thread if anyone is generous enough to pay for the gas.
I'll be sure to post pics of the place and if someone wants to find out anything specific about the place let me know. I'll update this thread if anyone is generous enough to pay for the gas.
Give it a week or so, we're moving to a new office on the main line right off lancaster ave ok, let us get set up and you can stop by and if there is something available you can have it.
If your serious, PM me a date/time and we can set something up.
Read on further in the thread we've provided instructions for the visitations.
... we will accept visitors. Please understand the following: Visits can start from the 16th. All visitors that would like to come can schedule their appointment via email on [email protected] ...
Wish I could +1 this post, or something. Maybe now we can focus on the technology. :-) Its nice that AMT folks are posting on the thread. I'd really like to hear from a customer. Or see an unboxing video, etc. I have money waiting to be spent with someone.
You won't because they haven't shipped anything yet. And even if they did your money spent now would only buy you something shipping in February.
No Bif.. death of salesman reference?
We have been shipping but did anyone ever think that maybe we havn't sold as much as KNC or the other guys? And the batches we ship are smaller!?
ALSO February is for the 1.2th! becuase we're backed up with pre-orders.
But if they want an 80ghs or a 128ghs those ship in 3 to 4 weeks from the date of payment.
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