Topic: Official Thread: AMT - page 301. (Read 678353 times)

Regarding the VAT thing, lets just say that we have it covered. Customers in the EU will not have to pay VAT or Import taxes. How ever we get it done, with a vat registered company and a non vat registered company we are currently receiving payments from EU clients and we are not charging vat to customers, and those clients will not have to deal with vat when they receive their miner. 

You missed the part where we discussed how its being shipped from inside the EU.

And given that most individuals here are not VAT registered companies they are consumer level customers, who will be charged VAT on the invoice, it sort of doesn't make sense other than as AMT_Miners said, from a US sales tax perspective.

That is correct and complete. If I buy in one of the member states of the european union, the company needs to receive the VAT. The goods are then free to circulate in the eurozone.


That is true. The buying company needs to give their taxnumber and country initials to the vendor, then the vendor needs to check the number, if it checks out then the sale can be done without VAT. The buyer is responsble in his own country to declare the goods.

I suppose it's entirely possible I missed the tons of videos, I haven't been following along since the very beginning. All I know is that I am very interested in any new ASICs that come out as I'd like to investigate them for the possibility of doing my own boards based on them, and to this point I haven't seen anything that would make me think AMT has a 28nm ASIC coming out in a couple months.

No, if you are a non-vat registered individual in the Eurozone then a VAT registered company selling to you from anywhere in the EuroZone has to charge VAT at the rate tied to the country where the company is resident, in this case Bulgaria which is 20%

If the VAT registered vendor ships to another VAT registered entity in the EuroZone then the invoice will not have VAT but the recieving company will have to pay the VAT at the rate in their own country.

Now that is really good news!! Shipping from within the Eurozone. Any news about the lead time? since they don't have to be shipped to the US.

MrTeal, i've got to imagine that it took all of about 2 minutes type that post whereas creating more videos and taking more pictures is time consuming and probably wont deter you. AMT has provided a ton of videos and pics and it's still not good enough. If they post another video more will just criticize every frame by frame.

I'd rather AMT focus on building and shipping to their supportive customers then convincing others that'll never be convinced.

Just my 2 cents.

-MinerTrain  

Good point. Let me get that for you.

You wouldn't have a trolling issue (I really don't see one) if you had better customer support and showed more proofs of shipment. I see this "troll" as frustrated people who spent money on your products while you provide little feedback as to what's going on with their orders. You can't expect others to fix your lackluster reputation, you have to do that yourself.

No offense, but I don't think you could have made a poorer choice of post to show your credibility. Rather than do a video or something showing the assembly process as well as showing a unit functional and hashing, you come up with a system to help shout down concerns about your products. Wouldn't you be better served by providing some evidence that you have functional Bitfury boards (let alone that you have a 28nm ASIC coming down the pipe) rather than try to stifle any dissent?

European customers will have their miners sent from within the Eurozone yes, we inform them of that before they pay to the euro accounts for their purchases. Seeing as how we are formal distributors of a chip made in Switzerland, and work with other designers in Eastern Europe, wouldn't it be more practical to have a small assembly shop in Europe as well, for the few euro clients we have? Or should we ship everything to the us and then ship back to the EU when we have a registered European Union based company and soon a small office over there which will act as a small assembly slash euro zone shipping hub. From a tax and logistic cost standpoint it makes more sense doesn't it? Especially when shipping a 22lb machine.  

AMT. Please see my tracking number. FedEx is getting pretty fed up with me on being able to deliver. Please inbox me on what i should do. Order #821

https://www.fedex.com/fedextrack/?tracknumbers=804364513916&cntry_code=us

NEW THREAD POLICY.  

ANY FORUM/THREAD MEMBERS THAT HELP AMT  FIGHT AGAINST TROLLS AND NEGATIVE THREAD MEMBERS WILL GET 5% OFF ANY MINER WE SELL + 1 TO 2 WEEKS OFF THE EXPECTED SHIPPING TIME FRAME. STARTING NOW 12/09/2013.  THAT DISCOUNT IS ON TOP OF ANY DISCOUNTS OR OTHER PROMO'S WE'RE RUNNING NOW OR IN THE FUTURE AND CAN BE USED AT ANY POINT THE TROLL FIGHTER WOULD LIKE TO USE IT.  

How do you help AMT fight trolls? When other members make negative remarks or post something that can be construed as something provocative or something generally undermining towards our credibility you should follow that post with a positive response and if the situation calls for it, an intelligent remark against the troll or negative individual Including reasons why they are possibly being negative, or provocative.

Also, random comments here that are supportive and generally nice for AMT to have on it's thread is also considered helping AMT fight trolls. A combo of the two is preferred. Don't fake it, but just support an up an coming mining manufacturer through positive remarks.  

When claiming your discount please simply provide proof of your posts via a message to us directly here on this forum from the username that you used to post with. One post wont cut, we're looking for real supporters here and we'll reward those that are positive and cheerful individuals on this thread from this point forward.

There are a few members which already earned this Troll fighting discount and I'll make a list of them shortly.

AMT has been paid for 1 x 1.2TH on 10/13/13, I should get it soon, will post up pictures and shipping details shorty or as soon as I've heard something positive.

AMT has been paid for (1) 1.2TH machine as of 12/9/13. fingers were crossed the whole way. I'll let folks know when it arrives.

An over simplified backup cooling solution to shorter heat sinks on boards which need to fit into tight HDD racks. A 10mm fan similar to the original design.

Racks for modular board designs - a rack with a fan that is stock from lian li which work really well.

Cooling options and Mini fans we're experimenting with while mounting them to heat sinks to try control heat.

A few Miners in the hall ready to be packaged, labeled and picked up by UPS at 2pm.