Topic: Official Thread: AMT - page 66. (Read 678353 times)

Guys:

I went back and deleted some of my post that were not helpful to our problem. Let's not do the personal attacks, it only creates a storm of nonsense. I agree with those saying we should just post about non-mining related issues. Doing more wrongs won't make this right.

I'd have to check the dates, but that was a big controversy. Innosilicon claims they have the legal right to sell the Coincraft A1 chip. Giorgio at Bitmine has confirmed this claim, but disputes its validity. So technically, they are NOT counterfeits, they are made by the same foundry under a (disputed) license. Suits have been filed both ways. So depending on when it was posted, the two statements while contradictory may not be lies. There was a lot of confusion on this, and still is. The Dragon miners are made with Innosilicon branded Coincraft A1 chips. By any normal meaning of the word, they are not counterfeit. They may be illegal, but that remains to be determined by the courts.

There are several chinese companies manufacturing ~1TH units right now with A1 chips, legally obtained as far as anyone can tell. There is some speculation that Bitmine failed to honor their commitments to Innosilicon and therefore got claim jumped. It's a mess.

Doesn't excuse the obfuscations here, but that particular issue is sufficiently muddy that they were probably telling the truth as they knew it at the time.

Bruno is just getting caught up, he'll be over it soon.

You paid for  a wish. It isn't coming true. Sorry. SUE THEM NOW.

He looked at it, and there were witnesses, it's enough. Ad we have recorded the majority of the conversation as well. Should be enough to sue for damages of business and a few other fun things. But we're considering going a different route in the mean time.

I wonder if these accounts are AMT. And if so I wonder if this is what they meant by going on the offensive.

ANNY really big news inc or updates in hardware crafting ?

Holy crap, josh is really bored to keep making these troll accounts. He should just work on miners and answers.

For anyone interested, BMch has the A1 data sheet and a 2-chip reference pcb files & BOM up on Github https://github.com/bitmine-ch/bitmine

If he does not have a copy of it in hand they did not serve him. He also has to sign for it officially. There is a process. If that did not happen a court cannot honor it.

puppet master = the string puller in behind the operations and campaigns the member using the fact he has to go back to play the war games his puppet master has set. its not josh's fault this has happened but obamas or whom ever it is behind the campaigns or the users fault for being in the army. josh is guilty of delivering late due to set backs.

amt is a new start up company so inherent issues with time frames work force delivery's from suppliers misguided delivery dates money flow issues refunds!(spending all money gained in the PRE-ORDER state to fund the making of the miner) so you cant feasibly have a refund because your initial money wasn't there.

yes he said x many weeks but then all it takes is one set back say i dunno a week on chips for him to be a week behind then after receiving these chips putting them together which took an extra day or two than expected because hes short of 1/2 workers in hind sight maybe needed more workers so now hes a week and a half behind then after running the chips finds the heat sinks are not to scratch or just don't fit that's another week in the shop to fix this now 2.5 week behind then the cases he chose/got were not good enough so another week at a fabricators fixing the issues now 3.5 weeks behind now he has the cage/case sorted and the heat-sink issues sorted and the rest of it sussed hes approx 4 weeks behind...... i ordered in January with the expected delivery date of 29th march which was yesterday but it felt like iv been waiting a lot longer due to the lack of email communication/thread communication and after receiving a reply from someone stating it will be with you next week but not being here i was frustrated and clean out forgot yesterday was my dispatch date so i started raging here and in emails (not the best idea) now i use bfl as an example not in direct comparison if i ordered in the last week of january from bfl i would be waiting at least until the back end of July/beginning of august before my miner was assembled and shipped the only difference here is josh gave a very under estimated 8 week wait going on the best case scenario and not working from a worst case scenario. from what i have read from this post well amts stuff cutting out all the chaff hes had issues he acknowledges this and is trying to sort it out but having to come on here and go through say 15 pages a day of crud slander and slating by some customers and also none customers and having to search for the real concerns of a customer from the heres his face with some words heres his address heres where he went to school sue him sue him heres his car outside his house and what ever gets trolled out on here from the maybe 1 line question from a customer or even say me  coming on ad not had a look for 10 hrs to find 15 pages of shite to 2 posts that i am interested in from josh stating something about the miner its power or just a hey guys im 3 weeks behind miners ship soon i cant see it from the crud.

alls im saying really is stop with the same old shite day in day out like wheres my miner can i see pics why don't you answer lets sue him lets go burn down his warehouse lets visit him at home kkk style send him personal mail blah blah blah. and do what a companies official thread should do and try support the guy. it must be very depressing to wake up at 8am go to the office listen to 1000 voice mails from the last ten minutes of customers screaming words that make no sense reading through the vast tidal wave of emails that he receives trying to sort out the legitimate concerns from the fake spam he more than likely gets and then working a 10 hr shift building miners for customers that seem to not even care less about his situation atm. and then when he gets home he has this place to sift through more emails from the day and possibly 5 minutes for his wife and kids before he runs out of red bull passes out and wakes up at 8 am forgetting what the hell he was doing sinking an espresso and more red bull on his way to the office. i am one customer of many that is waiting for results but i find results herd to see materializing when the guys got so many things to do not included in the build process.

there is one way all this could be avoided and that's a closed forum or thread in which only customers receive the info to actually log in a place where there isn't 200+pages 15% of which are actually relevant to the company the rest are just the same questions over and over again and that way josh or representative could log in on an evening update a page with order numbers and pictures of miners in build or shipping areas ready to go and it wouldn't be missed a section in which he could look for alternative suppliers or ideas on how to package the kit a real community effort.

just to sumerise i ordered in January my miner is now approximately 1 day late in shipping given the setbacks i see a fesable delivery date of next week to two weeks from now if all goes well. pick at my spelling pick at my use of English do what ever you wish to degrade the words i use just because you wouldn't use it but it doesn't detract from the fact there is too much on this page on a daily basis to keep up with.

We'll never pay Bruno anything, because as he has already demonstrated he will continue to do this crap over and over. Allowing him to walk out with a a soon to be overheated miner was us being courteous. As he continues to rant and rave, we'll just take things to the next level.

No way 1500 range at least. And you do realize why 6 boards on a single psu is total bulshit despite all of amt promises
And a lot of other things also.
My personal feeling about the situation that amt will do whatever it takes to postpone the crap delivery. When they know that it can not pay off for the electricity they will deliver something at the end.And be prepared to have a total hanging crap if this gets delivered at all.
Do you have a single reasonable explanation why they keep the top secret if this crap is working at all or what is the actual power consumption or and so on and on

I don't care if clennell is right, all I know is that he is annoying as fuck.

Personally I hope AMT sues him. Because then at least josh will end up in the court room. ( I can't say on the stand or people start saying shit about law and order)
Then he will have to have the things he says sworn under oath.

I'm wondering if those records could be subpoenaed for any other pending court cases. I know there are a few of you out there with lawyers already.

Looking forward to seeing this bounty paid up.

Thankyou for the updates.

Josh? Sorry just another AMT client that has received his miner early on!  THIS FORUM IS FILLED WITH FUCKING TROLLS AND CAVEMEN AND HOBO SANTA'S THAT ARE NOT EVEN CLIENTS! WHAT A FUCKING JOKE YOU PEOPLE ARE!

KEEP IT ON THE LEVEL BITCHES!

How do we know that their wallet? Has anyone paid them with bitcoin? That is the wallet we should be looking at? There will be a transaction log to/from that can be tracked. Follow the money. But first we need to know which wallet.