Topic: Official Thread: AMT - page 67. (Read 678353 times)

Stoned outta his fuckin' mind on RedBull, and has already checked on his mining rigs, now answering his critics.

Besides, he brushing up on his sock-puppetry for later.

Hey, Bubba, want company?
Josh, you were just in here a few minutes ago and taken care of.
I'm not Josh! I'm... I'm... I'm Joanne.

It is a very clever name.  Probably the best Handel on the board.  Hats off to you rick james Bitch

Mblackout, good comeback

as to the italicized, probably because Rick James was an American phenomenon, and this is an international site. FWIW, I got it the first time I saw it, and I love it "I'm Rick James, Bitch!"

thanks rick

My name isn't Rick. For fucks sake, why do half the people here not understand the joke.

As I've said, over and over, I'm not an AMT customer. I'm free to continue posting as I wish, and I will. If you are waiting for a miner, you need to be in court with these fools. Otherwise you are just giving them time to get away / spend the money.

Rick,  I agree with your concerns about bitcoin and trust me its bullshit not everyone has their miners yet.    1st of all iam not a lair, but ok.  2nd stupid posts.  this forum is full of stuipd posts which have no reverence to anything AMT or bitcoin mostly by bruno.  
Not like you will agree, but its true so keep bashing this place to shit.   If you have a problem with AMT sue their asses and drag their asses to court.  You will not gain anything here with guys like burno.

+1 to this.

I just said it, I'm concerned that the behavior of companies like this is causing irreparable harm to bitcoin. I also believe that you are a liar and should stop your stupid posts like "stop it stop it stop it blah blah" like a crazy person.

There is a line between constructive and destructive.   Where do you stand.

Can't speak for the others, but I appreciate your attitude. I feel a bit dirty having taken the free miner, due to the delays and obfuscations. But I think it fair to say that most of us would have taken the offer were it given. Giving out a few review units is not unusual for tech companies. Not delivering the paid orders, OTOH, is egregious. It's water under the bridge, now, but If I had a crystal ball that worked, I would have turned them down. This is not cool.

AMT, if you have the parts, why not do the kits? It'll save you time and hassle and go a long ways towards repairing your badly tarnished reputation.

We can look to two current examples of why such things work out, and how.

Hashfast and Cointerra. Both were badly delayed, and had issues once the equipment was made.

Hashfast tried to cover it up. Now they are being sued by DZ mining and several others, have had a TRO issued against their bitcoin wallets, and are in boiling water. They failed to honor commitments made to miner protection and such.

Cointerra came right out and admitted their problems, and are working towards compensation for incurred losses due to their delays and underperformance. The issues were almost the same, yet one company is looking to do ok, while the other is facing the righteous wrath of their customers. I will guarantee you that it hurt the pride of the engineers and officers of Cointerra to admit to their problems. But it saved face, and it permitted good will with the community at large that would not have existed if they hid.

We are all generally aware of the potential problems with the fast development cycle of these chips. Even given the relative simplicity of an ASIC vs., say, a microprocessor, there are a great many things that can go wrong. Mr. Murphy is aware of this, and vigilant. By being silent, obfuscatory, or dishonest, you open up MORE avenues for the aforementioned evil sprite. Had you been upfront about your problems right from the beginning, this thread would probably be just as long, but it would mostly be supportive, and given the number of really intelligent people here, very helpful to you. Instead you have a wildfire on your hands.

It's not too late to fix it. Probably. But you have to step up and be men.

Running to the store to get some smokes and coffee, then catch up with what I've missed the past few hours due to my light reading break.

Mblackout, I'd assume bruno is here because he cares about the success of bitcoin, as do I.

You are just a greedy little shit whining about the miner that you got when you shouldn't have. You should get out. You don't care about bitcoin, you care about helping AMT so that they might give you more miners that should be shipped to others who ordered first.

Some people hunt. Some people fish. I enjoy both, hence...

2. We speak to our customers directly and we are trying to improve our customer service everyday.
3. You can find our products on Amazon and buy them with a credit card.
5. We deliver on time if the situation is in our immediate control.
7. We offer customer support for guys that are just starting in the mining industry.

28nm will tape out mid october.

Plus we're just taking over this office, still sharing it with a security system assembly company actually.

Quote from: AMT_miners on October 01, 2013, 07:47:30 PM
I'm starting to wonder what's the point of having thread. All you guys do is just bash newcomers in this business it seems. All sales have come from someplace else, not this thread.

I'm guaranteeing 4 weeks from the date of purchase or a full refund.

Never be ashamed about where your from, this is a free world.

4. Walk up the stairs until you hit a door called "Safe", walk in the door and speak to a man named Harrison who is 6'3 and about 320lbs and he will welcome you and explain that this is an assembly and shipping point and the he is a family friend of one of the founders and that he was nice enough to help a start up get their feet off the ground.

And everyone, customer or not, gets support via the website, not on a forum, this thread is meant for announcements only not support issues. We as a business have set up a support line, support chat, and respond to emails pretty quick, during normal business hours.

I'm sure you saw the video by now which I hope puts your faith in our completion units. We have several guys working assembly. All in all, no one has came on the market, sold/designed/and shipped miners in less than a few months and we intend to be the first.

We usually respond with in hours to anyone that writes to on [email protected] or [email protected]

All in all, we're delivering. It's not important how we did it, or who we work with, or who we sell to. All that matters is, we ultimately deliver miners on time and the miners that we deliver work. And i think several of the hardcore guys on this forum will agree with us on that.

Yea we just advertise like a normal company, not too big on linking to or selling through forums..

Everyday will be welcome to an Open House and anyone is welcome every day. You'll see boxes, pretty Jewish girls doing things like answering phones or accounting, cases, boxes, bases.. boxes.. and that's about it.. Maybe one or two miners that are being put in the boxes.

But really each and everyone one of you are welcome in our new presentable location with open arms. For a nominal fee of course.

We've heard about that guy, just like some other guy on Ebay that stole our 1.2th picture and is trying to sell it. We've setup an email a long time for that possible problem and its in our facts section [email protected]  if anyone suspects anything like that email us there or at [email protected] and we will verify if the order is legit or not, very quckly. We've contacted ebay and reported them but its still up.

I'm Jim by the way, in general we stick to our forum  or the custom hardware section, even though we don't use the forum that much really. On this username it's either me Jim or Josh. Personally I handle most customer support, larger sales and what nut and the "Lebanon, IN" rings a bell from somewhere and I'll take some time shortly to try and figure out exactly where that sounds familiar. One of those cities that is like "what wait.. "

IF ANYONE IS EVEN CONSIDERING ORDERING/BUYING A MINER OFF EBAY OR THIS FORUM AND THAT PERSON HAS CLAIMED TO PURCHASE AN AMT MINER OR IS OFFERING TO SELL A PRE-ORDERED MINER NEEDS TO VERIFY IT DIRECTLY WITH US AT AMT.  CUSTOMER IDENTITY PROTECTION IS ONE THING BUT WE ARE NOT WE'RE TO LET PEOPLE GET ROBBED BY OTHER PEOPLE.

3. There is no reason why we can't make a pretty miner, if our pricing is reasonable and if we choose to take a loss on profit by making a pretty miner, its our loss.

A good thing my grandfather once told me (He owned one of the most known Deli's on the main line to do this day, and still the best place in town to get a corned beef sandwhich on a rye) he said, "What ever you think you'll need for your business, think again, and then double or triple it. You may have less customers but you'll have a more happy customer because you'll do your job right and better than anyone else".

Pick up is still an option, when a clients miner is ready we send them an email like
"Hi, your miner is ready - please come pick it up - please bring proof of purchase/transfer, ID -etc" So during this transition over the next few weeks we will inform them to pickup at the havertown location or the new office off lancaster ave.

NEW THREAD POLICY.  

ANY FORUM/THREAD MEMBERS THAT HELP AMT  FIGHT AGAINST TROLLS AND NEGATIVE THREAD MEMBERS WILL GET 5% OFF ANY MINER WE SELL + 1 TO 2 WEEKS OFF THE EXPECTED SHIPPING TIME FRAME. STARTING NOW 12/09/2013.  THAT DISCOUNT IS ON TOP OF ANY DISCOUNTS OR OTHER PROMO'S WE'RE RUNNING NOW OR IN THE FUTURE AND CAN BE USED AT ANY POINT THE TROLL FIGHTER WOULD LIKE TO USE IT.

Regarding the VAT thing, lets just say that we have it covered. Customers in the EU will not have to pay VAT or Import taxes. How ever we get it done, with a vat registered company and a non vat registered company we are currently receiving payments from EU clients and we are not charging vat to customers, and those clients will not have to deal with vat when they receive their miner.

we just moderate this thread otherwise it turns into a pr disaster if left alone for more than a day. We've encouraged clients to post here but we can't force them, a lot of are clients are like... rich guys.. or business or soon to be hosting companies, they don't "forum" that much I think. And honestly we didnt want to shoot this video ourselves first we wanted to wait until some client did it but no one did.

You don't know the background of AMT and Bitmine, so lets not assume anything. Bitmine made us their exclusive distributor for the US.  And yes you're close when thinking we are working on a smaller margin than most. But that's the point, we need to be competitive and first on the market in order to demonstrate to the world what the future of AMT is.

Guy's,  CLenell is one of most enthusiastic clients, I mean this guy has written an email everyday for the last 10 days straight until he gets an answer and he sends it to all of our emails until Jim eventually responds. Theres no excuse as to why we can't answer an email but all in all Clenell gets it done.

I wish we could do that, no jk. But like 50% of the calls we get and return are people asking for updates on their shipping time (even 1 week after they purchases) and guys that don't really understand Bitcoin and just looking for someone to explain them everything mining from A to Z. We haven't updated the system enough to select who we call back, its literally like an answering service where when we sit down to return calls we pick a date, ie yesterday or today and click start and it call people back one by one.

All in all, we're pretty sick of this thread and people on it, thats why we dont reply. Although we do love the fact that it keeps us at the top of this category, which brings customers to our doorstep or via phone which convert into almost immediate sales after we explain what kind of people are really posting here and why they do so.

who ever is behind this attempted sabotage you might as well stop, we'll be one of the first on the US market with a TH miner and we ARE one of the few companies in the moment actually shipping and delivering miners.

The address is on the site.. like all in all, just get over it because we ultimately don't care what gets posted on this thread because the people that buy from us are generally pleased with their product and even when we urge someone to post here you guys tear it up anyway.

If they choose not to repay that's fine, because I can honestly say that we have not used any of the funds from any of the clients that paid via paypal since day 1.

You were refunded because Paypal held your funds and we couldn't use them to build your miner. Thats why we refunded you.

Yes they ship out within 3 weeks of the purchase. We are getting it down to 2 weeks now by the way.

Congrats, you figured out one of the guys that works in our office. Amazing job! you obviously have no fucking life. Also non of those domains are associated with Joshua, stop making shit up at this point. Do a simple whois check.

4 to 6 Weeks. Our chips come in next week, or at least are due to. Our setup is almost done and we're at final assembly stages of the 1.2th.

Hes one of the guys that works in our office. Please remove this post as its very intrusive. Otherwise we'll have to make the new CEO

Anyway, now we're going to invest some serious time and energy into PR and everyone here posting negative comments will look a bunch of assholes. Weed out the comments, naysayers and trolls, and then.. Bam - videos, PR, Forbes..

These miners are under warranty.

Hey Guys,

Quick update, chips arrived today and will go to full surface mount and assembly on Tuesday. Hoping to get the first AMT1.2's shipped by Friday.

More to come...

Please call the office or come into our office and speak with Jim, Hanna, Alyssa or Les for the further details regarding your concerns or questions. The sales line is 1855-866- MINE.

3. The reason there are no updates is because what we do is make a product as fast as possible, and the usual 1-2 year period to bring a product to market doesn't really apply in this situation. We know what works and what doesnt, plans are made in this industry and situations like heat control are no joke.

In general, we do not promote skipping the order que or paying extra for express service. We are not selling a spot in line, just trying to give Tom what he wants without going back on our refund policy.

Hi, I appreciate the general update but I was just wondering what the last order to be fully processed and shipped was? Just so I can get an idea of a timeframe to receive my order (#847). Thanks.

Your miner will ship next week, between Wednesday and Friday. Please contact [email protected] for further question regarding order status, we don't use this thread for that.

ASA is owned by a family friend from one of the owners of AMT and we stated that earlier in this thread.

Delays are due to labor issues and lack of staff. We've said this several times.

OUR OFFICE ALWAYS HAS SOMEONE IN IT - IT IS NOT JUST AN ADDRESS, THERE ARE AT LEAST 3 STAFF MEMBERS THERE FULL TIME.

We treat our clients as investors, and with respect.

No don't worry, its cool, we sold him a miner.

Actually it was a bit more than 20 minutes. Closer to a few hours. Basically from our second to last post until the update afterwards. And no bribe or payment was given. He just needed to meet us.

Caution: Mega post coming next, containing mostly of the pack of lies by AMT of which I just finished reading every single post of theirs for the third time. I'm dedicated trolling bastard, eh?

Bruno is just getting caught up, he'll be over it soon.

You paid for  a wish. It isn't coming true. Sorry. SUE THEM NOW.

The kind that quickly realized that he was lied to after driving 2+ days to collect a 20 BTC bounty that was reneged on. That's how you Swim With the Sharks Without Getting Eaten Alive.

What kind of man would fuck his brand over only a $10K USD bounty? Outta all the help that many have offered up in this thread, you opt to go about things your way. The 7 years at Penn State business degree way. How's that working out for you?

I'd have to check the dates, but that was a big controversy. Innosilicon claims they have the legal right to sell the Coincraft A1 chip. Giorgio at Bitmine has confirmed this claim, but disputes its validity. So technically, they are NOT counterfeits, they are made by the same foundry under a (disputed) license. Suits have been filed both ways. So depending on when it was posted, the two statements while contradictory may not be lies. There was a lot of confusion on this, and still is. The Dragon miners are made with Innosilicon branded Coincraft A1 chips. By any normal meaning of the word, they are not counterfeit. They may be illegal, but that remains to be determined by the courts.

There are several chinese companies manufacturing ~1TH units right now with A1 chips, legally obtained as far as anyone can tell. There is some speculation that Bitmine failed to honor their commitments to Innosilicon and therefore got claim jumped. It's a mess.

Doesn't excuse the obfuscations here, but that particular issue is sufficiently muddy that they were probably telling the truth as they knew it at the time.

Let's get off the bounty and free miners, those are just distractions to the discussion. I am not mad at anyone, I would not blame you. I would take anything offered for free. I would like if we could focus on what the people from 500-1300+ paid for.

I drove 2+ days to collect the bounty you placed on my ass so that you can me, thus everyone else, that you're real: A real character! Hell, there's even a video on YouTube depicting that you have trolls in your office. 

How can a company operating on a shoestring and had to mortgage two houses be able to six months down the road supply miners to satisfy the MPP agreement to every single person who ordered miners, knowing full well that such may be the case?

Nevermind! I figured it out. Off the backs of everybody how ordered and will be so happy with AMT that they can't wait to order the next gen products with their coupons earned for fending off the trolls on this thread.