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Topic: [OLD ANN][SPD][BOUNTIES:ON] PoS/Masternode - Stipend - The Freelancer's Currency - page 14. (Read 35163 times)

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Stipend best coin!

The price is tanking and they haven't even considered telling the exchange to suspend trading to protect the community. You think these scammers really care about anything other than the price of the coin and eventually dumping to get as much money as possible.

Suspend the trading ? Congrats, you reached a brand new level in the great history of trolling. This coin have a team working on a use case and so far there is no scam. Deal with it.
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copper member
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STIPEND is now supported by SNODE.CO

Instead of holding your coin until it reaches a higher price, putting your money into a masternode is an efficient solution to make use of your resources. Furthermore, parallel with blockchain, masternode is definitely the future of cryptocurrency.

Please take a look at our bitcointalk thread here: https://bitcointalksearch.org/topic/ann-snodeco-shared-and-dedicated-masternodes-as-a-service-3195788

We will helps you take advantage of your cryptocurrency resources to earn rewards and interest with simple steps

- Select the potential coin (high interest with the possibility of the price rising in the future)
- Deposit the coin into your masternode wallet (provided by our service)
- Receive interest and rewards daily or weekly

Supported coin so far: ARGO, QBIC, SAGA, POLIS, STIPEND, APOLLON. We are constantly adding new coins voted by community.
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So these scamming devs banned me from their discord for asking legitimate questions about their business model, and it's flaws. They have no intention of ever making a working product. Their "Demo" is just a squarespace template. They have no answers, no idea rather, as to how they will manage to maintain and pay for the bandwith that would be required to operate such high traffic with a 2-3% fee. They consistently compare themselves to Upwork, yet the dev admittedly was unfamiliar with fiverr, and can't explain why anyone would switch when, the cost of turning Stipend into Fiat is much more expensive, and time consuming than just paying fee's on fiverr.

This project is a complete scam, and never was originally intended to go beyond the MN auction. The devs "Grave" threatened to hire a hitman on someone for asking them a question about all their "updates" just being photshop mockups and no actual development. You guys have to be kidding with this useless shit coin.

Questions they can't answer.

1) How will Stipend afford the bandwith with only 2-3% fee's
2) How will Stipend afford to hire the amount of people it would take to maintain the network, customer support, fraud protection, interpreters for international markets, someone to rewrite all of their websites in foreign langauges, etc And then customer support in each of those languages.
3) Why are using a squarespace template as your "demo" and claiming it to be backed on Node.JS and AWS.
4) How can you ensure security of a built in hot wallet, when your income is only 2-3%. The bandwith alone will leave you cash negative in a few weeks.
5) Why are your devs threating people, and why couldn't out of 3 active devs none of you answer these questions or any other.

Why is there no mention of any of these points in your whitepaper, reason, you never thought of them. Because you never expected to proceed with the coin.


1. "How will Stipend afford the bandwith with only 2-3% fee's?": You don't seem to understand what a 2-3% fee consists of. You could just as well ask "how do exchanges stay profitable with only a 0.25% withdrawal fee?" We've put plenty of time figuring out the numbers and definitely stand by our business model, in spite of what you say. The fact remains that you have no idea what you're talking about and are primarily just trying to cause problems.

2. "How will Stipend afford to hire the amount of people it would take to maintain the network, customer support, fraud protection, interpreters for international markets, someone to rewrite all of their websites in foreign langauges, etc And then customer support in each of those languages.?": This is very similar to the first question. We've constantly been working with and bringing on developers to help us manage the network and the blockchain, and will definitely do so in regards to customer support as well. We won't have any problems in this regard. In regards to translation, there's absolutely no reason for us to "rewrite all their websites in foreign langauges," and I have no idea why you would expect us to.

3. "Why are using a squarespace template as your "demo" and claiming it to be backed on Node.JS and AWS.?": This is actually 100% bullshit. You have no idea what you're talking about. The demo is 100% not built off of SquareSpace, and I challenge you to link the template to prove otherwise.

4. "How can you ensure security of a built in hot wallet, when your income is only 2-3%. The bandwith alone will leave you cash negative in a few weeks?": Ensuring security won't be a problem. You seem to think that someone can improve security by solely throwing money at something. We all know what we are doing, and are confident that we'll be able to protect our customers' assets. Look at any mining pool, for example. Each has their own respective hot wallet connected to the network, and are easily able to keep it secure and active.

5. "Why are your devs threating people, and why couldn't out of 3 active devs none of you answer these questions or any other?": I saw the "threat," and it was 100% a joke that you're blowing out of proportion and using for your own selfish needs. I hope I have answered your questions to your satisfaction, and you can finally stop your whiny, inconsiderate crusade. Everything you mention is primarily untrue, and although I do apologize for the fact that on some level you feel attacked and maligned, to willfully and knowingly cause problems with a new coin trying to implement a use case is nothing but selfish and unfair, not just towards us but towards the community as a whole.

We've gone over this a million times. You were not banned for your questions. We're more than happy to respond, as we do to everyone in the Discord. We've tried to be transparent since day one, and are continually active and posting weekly updates, unlike the vast majority of teams out there.

Regards
The Stipend Team
newbie
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Of all the current coins I am involved in this is one of the better ones.
I have seen the scam coins, and been burnt by one, this one is actually working towards something other than ROI and early Mn profits.
I hope they keep up the good work, and though i understand the worry new people have with coins due to scams i cant help but think the fellow newbie poster might have vested interests elsewhere

SO far so good with this one for me.
full member
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You're still frustrated ? Newbie account with no activity and so much fud, you're obviously dishonest. Plus the price isn't tanking.

You know nothing about their infrastructure and its cost so the number you're throwing out of your pants mean basically nothing. Since you don't know about their infrastructure and long / short term strategies, the operational cost you're talking about is hard to evaluate precisely, and you perfectly know it. You're saying it can't function and yet you proved nothing. This is demagogy and all your questions have been answered on Discord and again : you got banned from Discord because you came up and asked a question and the community couldn't answer.

People told you to just ask in the right channel where all the questions are collected in order to prepare the dev weekly update where the team is (weekly) answering to all the important questions and concerns with details and profesionalism. You kept asking the, exact, same, question, for more than one hour, ending by saying since the devs weren't putting things his way, they were idiot and the project were worthless. This was plein and annoying fud, and if I were moderating there I couldn't have awaited one hour to kick your ass out and clear our space.
newbie
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You can believe anything you want, it's still a scam with fundamental flaws that the devs can't address with real answers. The devs have tried to get my post deleted because they can't answer the questions.

Since the exposure of this coin, the price is constantly tanking. Just because the devs can't answer simple questions about how they will remain profitable with such a low fee, and still manage to afford operational cost.
newbie
Activity: 138
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Don't read  crayzy88 posts. Just look at his activity here and in any other threads. He is a scammer himself. Analyse trading graphs, 24h volume, quantity of miners, mining profit and more params and compare with others MH coins. This is most steady project this time that, i believe, will increase in price. This ia actually not a one day coin!!!
full member
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Everything is scam, it`s ok, where is the problem?  Grin
I got enough profit with SPD and willn`t cry if/when it would scam. As for me - it`s normal, as for you - or, i don`t care how it for you  Grin

Exactly. And if it's not a scam (which I believe, I think it's real) it's even more money for us. So, why these guys are complaining ?
hero member
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Everything is scam, it`s ok, where is the problem?  Grin
I got enough profit with SPD and willn`t cry if/when it would scam. As for me - it`s normal, as for you - or, i don`t care how it for you  Grin
newbie
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As I said, we got your point, I even gave you exemples on Discord, now move on. We're all adult.


You didn't give me anything or anyone anything. The theme for this project seems to be (When you don't have an answer, say you already answered it)

explain how this analogy isn't true for Stipend

It's amazing that people are investing in a company without asking and getting a clearly detailed explanation of how a company they are investing in intends to become profitable. I could say today I am starting an airline and we will collect only 3% of what other airlines charge for tickets. And while that idea may sound great initially, in practice it is impossible because the operational cost are too high, it's the exact same with this project. It sounds great but in reality it can't function with it's current promises


You know nothing about their infrastructure and its cost so the number you're throwing out of your pants mean basically nothing. Since you don't know about their infrastructure and long / short term strategies, the operational cost you're talking about is hard to evaluate precisely, and you perfectly know it. You're saying it can't function and yet you proved nothing. This is demagogy and we're all tired of this. Your getting paranoid at this point.

I'm not throwing out a number, and it still doesn't work. That's the point I'm making. Now if I do throw in some numbers it is even more unrealistic. Most frequent freelancing gigs are less than $50 at 3% that's 1.50 per project. So even if they facilitate an astronomical number of 20k gigs at $50 on average per month. There monthly income is maxed at around 30k USD a month. When month to month operational cost would be well into the six figure range.  

But here's the main issue, they aren't being paid in fiat they are being paid a 3% fee from a useless coin who's price is declining constantly. Which in reality spews out several more issues, for instance. lets say it's a bull market such as back in January. I do a gig for 500 coins that will take a month to complete, by the middle of that month the price of Stipend drops to half of what I originally charge, being someone who values their time, the person decides screw it I'm not completing this gig for half of what I initially valued my time at.

Or in the reverse, I pay someone the day before for a gig that will take a week and the price jumps multiple times instantly I cancel the gig to get back my coins and take profits.

These issues aren't even remotely addressed, where the UA, where's the policy on gigs? How can you force someone to complete a gig, even if you can return the coins the cancelattion rate will be so high people will just go back to a fiat platform.

These crucial and fundamental flaws in practice will kill this coin as soon as people realize how unprepared this business model is.

And that's not including the MASSIVE budget that would be required for marketing on an ongoing basis. Oh but the devs a marketing professional right, convenient. Yet your PR team didn't prep for obvious fundamental questions that were bound to arise.

Your questions are just ignored for obvious reasons, if you want to have a dialogue we are open but you are sadly looking for something else ! Even after responding to your first questions you are bringing up new made up issues that are speculation. Good luck with what ever you are trying to achieve and please let this project go along and not pop up when we are wrapping up everything for tomorrow's weekly update. And yes you are just throwing numbers. "Stipend's monthly income is maxed at around 30k USD a month." this is such a waste of time, please no one is listening to you and you are tiring the team for no reason !
newbie
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As I said, we got your point, I even gave you exemples on Discord, now move on. We're all adult.


You didn't give me anything or anyone anything. The theme for this project seems to be (When you don't have an answer, say you already answered it)

explain how this analogy isn't true for Stipend

It's amazing that people are investing in a company without asking and getting a clearly detailed explanation of how a company they are investing in intends to become profitable. I could say today I am starting an airline and we will collect only 3% of what other airlines charge for tickets. And while that idea may sound great initially, in practice it is impossible because the operational cost are too high, it's the exact same with this project. It sounds great but in reality it can't function with it's current promises


You know nothing about their infrastructure and its cost so the number you're throwing out of your pants mean basically nothing. Since you don't know about their infrastructure and long / short term strategies, the operational cost you're talking about is hard to evaluate precisely, and you perfectly know it. You're saying it can't function and yet you proved nothing. This is demagogy and we're all tired of this. Your getting paranoid at this point.

I'm not throwing out a number, and it still doesn't work. That's the point I'm making. Now if I do throw in some numbers it is even more unrealistic. Most frequent freelancing gigs are less than $50 at 3% that's 1.50 per project. So even if they facilitate an astronomical number of 20k gigs at $50 on average per month. There monthly income is maxed at around 30k USD a month. When month to month operational cost would be well into the six figure range.  

But here's the main issue, they aren't being paid in fiat they are being paid a 3% fee from a useless coin who's price is declining constantly. Which in reality spews out several more issues, for instance. lets say it's a bull market such as back in January. I do a gig for 500 coins that will take a month to complete, by the middle of that month the price of Stipend drops to half of what I originally charge, being someone who values their time, the person decides screw it I'm not completing this gig for half of what I initially valued my time at.

Or in the reverse, I pay someone the day before for a gig that will take a week and the price jumps multiple times instantly I cancel the gig to get back my coins and take profits.

These issues aren't even remotely addressed, where the UA, where's the policy on gigs? How can you force someone to complete a gig, even if you can return the coins the cancelattion rate will be so high people will just go back to a fiat platform.

These crucial and fundamental flaws in practice will kill this coin as soon as people realize how unprepared this business model is.

And that's not including the MASSIVE budget that would be required for marketing on an ongoing basis. Oh but the devs a marketing professional right, convenient. Yet your PR team didn't prep for obvious fundamental questions that were bound to arise.
newbie
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Sorry to say but last 3-6 pages is boring as hell.

I can understand crayzy88 looking out for fellow citizens in not getting burnt in false scam projects but i dont think your helping anyone tbh!

If i was a new investor in this coin, reading all what ur saying wont put me off it entices me to get into the project more

In the last 2 Months :

I payed 3.6 BTC for Bithold in auction for MN and devs have left now and flogged us to with a one in a lifetime deal of 12:1 numus.
I payed 1.6 BTC for Moneybags in auction for MN now worth 0.00990 BTC ( No devs nothing arround )
I payed 1.9 BTC for CBS in auction for MN now worth 0.01108 BTC ( No devs nothing arround )
I payed 2.6 BTC for ADV in auction for MN now worth 0.01249 BTC ( No devs nothing arround )
I payed 1.5 BTC for Race in auction for MN now worth 0.00770 BTC ( No devs no Discord nothing arround )

The list goes ON and ON. Why aint u in any of them 100's of discords or threads trying to save peoples hard earned cash?? this is one of the only masternode coins released in the last 3 months that is actually working and your here with your mate past 4 pages wasting your time.

In the last 6 weeks I have made my investment back with another 2 masternodes pumping coins everyday. So even if it went to 10 cents like u say what have i actually lost?

Just get on with your life m8 and dont worry about others too much, everyones got internet these days they can do there own research and make up there own minds.

Peace


Because initially I only asked very reasonable question. And I was banned for it because the devs couldn't give a real answer. And still can't, which is one that should have been thought of first before anything else. "How will they become profitable with such low fees and still manage to pay for operational cost". At this point even if they answer it can't be more than smoke and mirrors because a question like that should have been able to be answered without much thought as it should be the crux of the project.

This guy is definitely paid to fud with a newly created account, don't waste your time anymore with him the team is getting back to work on what's promised ! Again thank you guys for the support ! the questions were answered in a sufficient manner, we are not explaining every single piece of our customer acquisition or platform cost management here, if you are looking for more answers contribute or leave community alone.
full member
Activity: 756
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Sorry to say but last 3-6 pages is boring as hell.

I can understand crayzy88 looking out for fellow citizens in not getting burnt in false scam projects but i dont think your helping anyone tbh!

If i was a new investor in this coin, reading all what ur saying wont put me off it entices me to get into the project more

In the last 2 Months :

I payed 3.6 BTC for Bithold in auction for MN and devs have left now and flogged us to with a one in a lifetime deal of 12:1 numus.
I payed 1.6 BTC for Moneybags in auction for MN now worth 0.00990 BTC ( No devs nothing arround )
I payed 1.9 BTC for CBS in auction for MN now worth 0.01108 BTC ( No devs nothing arround )
I payed 2.6 BTC for ADV in auction for MN now worth 0.01249 BTC ( No devs nothing arround )
I payed 1.5 BTC for Race in auction for MN now worth 0.00770 BTC ( No devs no Discord nothing arround )

The list goes ON and ON. Why aint u in any of them 100's of discords or threads trying to save peoples hard earned cash?? this is one of the only masternode coins released in the last 3 months that is actually working and your here with your mate past 4 pages wasting your time.

In the last 6 weeks I have made my investment back with another 2 masternodes pumping coins everyday. So even if it went to 10 cents like u say what have i actually lost?

Just get on with your life m8 and dont worry about others too much, everyones got internet these days they can do there own research and make up there own minds.

Peace


Because initially I only asked very reasonable question. And I was banned for it because the devs couldn't give a real answer. And still can't, which is one that should have been thought of first before anything else. "How will they become profitable with such low fees and still manage to pay for operational cost". At this point even if they answer it can't be more than smoke and mirrors because a question like that should have been able to be answered without much thought as it should be the crux of the project.

You're still frustrated ? Your questions have been answered on Discord and again : you got banned from Discord because you came up and asked a question and the community couldn't answer. People told you to just ask in the right channel where all the questions are collected in order to prepare the dev weekly update where the team is (weekly) answering to all the important questions and concerns with details and profesionalism. You kept asking the, exact, same, question, for more than one hour, ending by saying since the devs weren't putting things his way, they were idiot and the project were worthless. This was plein and annoying fud, and if I were moderating there I couldn't have awaited one hour to kick your ass out and clear our space.
newbie
Activity: 14
Merit: 0
Sorry to say but last 3-6 pages is boring as hell.

I can understand crayzy88 looking out for fellow citizens in not getting burnt in false scam projects but i dont think your helping anyone tbh!

If i was a new investor in this coin, reading all what ur saying wont put me off it entices me to get into the project more

In the last 2 Months :

I payed 3.6 BTC for Bithold in auction for MN and devs have left now and flogged us to with a one in a lifetime deal of 12:1 numus.
I payed 1.6 BTC for Moneybags in auction for MN now worth 0.00990 BTC ( No devs nothing arround )
I payed 1.9 BTC for CBS in auction for MN now worth 0.01108 BTC ( No devs nothing arround )
I payed 2.6 BTC for ADV in auction for MN now worth 0.01249 BTC ( No devs nothing arround )
I payed 1.5 BTC for Race in auction for MN now worth 0.00770 BTC ( No devs no Discord nothing arround )

The list goes ON and ON. Why aint u in any of them 100's of discords or threads trying to save peoples hard earned cash?? this is one of the only masternode coins released in the last 3 months that is actually working and your here with your mate past 4 pages wasting your time.

In the last 6 weeks I have made my investment back with another 2 masternodes pumping coins everyday. So even if it went to 10 cents like u say what have i actually lost?

Just get on with your life m8 and dont worry about others too much, everyones got internet these days they can do there own research and make up there own minds.

Peace


Because initially I only asked very reasonable question. And I was banned for it because the devs couldn't give a real answer. And still can't, which is one that should have been thought of first before anything else. "How will they become profitable with such low fees and still manage to pay for operational cost". At this point even if they answer it can't be more than smoke and mirrors because a question like that should have been able to be answered without much thought as it should be the crux of the project.
full member
Activity: 756
Merit: 103
Sorry to say but last 3-6 pages is boring as hell.

I can understand crayzy88 looking out for fellow citizens in not getting burnt in false scam projects but i dont think your helping anyone tbh!

If i was a new investor in this coin, reading all what ur saying wont put me off it entices me to get into the project more

In the last 2 Months :

I payed 3.6 BTC for Bithold in auction for MN and devs have left now and flogged us to with a one in a lifetime deal of 12:1 numus.
I payed 1.6 BTC for Moneybags in auction for MN now worth 0.00990 BTC ( No devs nothing arround )
I payed 1.9 BTC for CBS in auction for MN now worth 0.01108 BTC ( No devs nothing arround )
I payed 2.6 BTC for ADV in auction for MN now worth 0.01249 BTC ( No devs nothing arround )
I payed 1.5 BTC for Race in auction for MN now worth 0.00770 BTC ( No devs no Discord nothing arround )

The list goes ON and ON. Why aint u in any of them 100's of discords or threads trying to save peoples hard earned cash?? this is one of the only masternode coins released in the last 3 months that is actually working and your here with your mate past 4 pages wasting your time.

In the last 6 weeks I have made my investment back with another 2 masternodes pumping coins everyday. So even if it went to 10 cents like u say what have i actually lost?

Just get on with your life m8 and dont worry about others too much, everyones got internet these days they can do there own research and make up there own minds.

Peace


At this point I even tend to think the guy got paid to fud -_-

Like if we were dumb and in need for him to know how to invest or not.
full member
Activity: 756
Merit: 103
As I said, we got your point, I even gave you exemples on Discord, now move on. We're all adult.


You didn't give me anything or anyone anything. The theme for this project seems to be (When you don't have an answer, say you already answered it)

explain how this analogy isn't true for Stipend

It's amazing that people are investing in a company without asking and getting a clearly detailed explanation of how a company they are investing in intends to become profitable. I could say today I am starting an airline and we will collect only 3% of what other airlines charge for tickets. And while that idea may sound great initially, in practice it is impossible because the operational cost are too high, it's the exact same with this project. It sounds great but in reality it can't function with it's current promises


You know nothing about their infrastructure and its cost so the number you're throwing out of your pants mean basically nothing. Since you don't know about their infrastructure and long / short term strategies, the operational cost you're talking about is hard to evaluate precisely, and you perfectly know it. You're saying it can't function and yet you proved nothing. This is demagogy and we're all tired of this. Your getting paranoid at this point.
newbie
Activity: 8
Merit: 0
Sorry to say but last 3-6 pages is boring as hell.

I can understand crayzy88 looking out for fellow citizens in not getting burnt in false scam projects but i dont think your helping anyone tbh!

If i was a new investor in this coin, reading all what ur saying wont put me off it entices me to get into the project more

In the last 2 Months :

I payed 3.6 BTC for Bithold in auction for MN and devs have left now and flogged us to with a one in a lifetime deal of 12:1 numus.
I payed 1.6 BTC for Moneybags in auction for MN now worth 0.00990 BTC ( No devs nothing arround )
I payed 1.9 BTC for CBS in auction for MN now worth 0.01108 BTC ( No devs nothing arround )
I payed 2.6 BTC for ADV in auction for MN now worth 0.01249 BTC ( No devs nothing arround )
I payed 1.5 BTC for Race in auction for MN now worth 0.00770 BTC ( No devs no Discord nothing arround )

The list goes ON and ON. Why aint u in any of them 100's of discords or threads trying to save peoples hard earned cash?? this is one of the only masternode coins released in the last 3 months that is actually working and your here with your mate past 4 pages wasting your time.

In the last 6 weeks I have made my investment back with another 2 masternodes pumping coins everyday. So even if it went to 10 cents like u say what have i actually lost?

Just get on with your life m8 and dont worry about others too much, everyones got internet these days they can do there own research and make up there own minds.

Peace
newbie
Activity: 14
Merit: 0
As I said, we got your point, I even gave you exemples on Discord, now move on. We're all adult.


You didn't give me anything or anyone anything. The theme for this project seems to be (When you don't have an answer, say you already answered it)

explain how this analogy isn't true for Stipend

It's amazing that people are investing in a company without asking and getting a clearly detailed explanation of how a company they are investing in intends to become profitable. I could say today I am starting an airline and we will collect only 3% of what other airlines charge for tickets. And while that idea may sound great initially, in practice it is impossible because the operational cost are too high, it's the exact same with this project. It sounds great but in reality it can't function with it's current promises
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