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December 10, 2015, 11:07:20 PM
BUMP!

I believe this idea has merit and deserves a valid response on if it could be implemented or too far of a code fork.

OK,
New Idea to solve this issue at hand.

On Fly Wallet, There has to be Two different Types of Address for each wallet.

1 Type Address is call the Staking Address
Where you can store coins , but it stakes the coins so you gain your interest,
Whenever you send coins out of this type address , then you are charged the 10% which goes to the superfly.

2nd type address is called Non-Staking Address.
Any coins store here do not stake , so they do not gain interest.
You can send from this address without paying the fee.

Any Exchange would keep all of their coins in the Non-Staking type Addresses, so they would never be charged the 10% fee , and can send out the exact amount purchased.

Users will store their coins in the type 1 staking address to earn interest and if they dump , they are charged the fee.
Users that store their coins in type 2 non-staking address , would not be a problem, as it would be no different for them than buying it on the exchange and letting it sit there. But it would also give fly the ability to purchase items by using this address without the fee.

Additional Options :
You can place a limit on the amount of fly send out per block, if you feel the need.
Also the addresses need a slightly different prefix , so you can tell just by looking if the address is staking or nonstaking.
Example Staking address all start with FS, all non staking start with FN ,
2 separate type address on 1 blockchain,  Wink

 Cool

FYI:
@cryptonit, if you claim this idea was yours first,
I will have to sue you for copyright infringement, Just Kidding, LOL  Cheesy

The only issue I see is this leaves a giant hole for dumpers, so lets say I have 2000 coins, and im staking them in type 1 wallet, and then one day I decide I want to dump them, then I simply move them to my "type 2 address", then  quickly send them to the exchange and dump (no fees). I love looking at new ideas, but it also must be secure. The MAJOR benefit of FLY is it cannot be dumped. Always keeping prices high, and even higher as when more people realize this they will buy because of this security. It also filters out short term traders and dumpers. They wont even look twice at this, and its meant to be this way. Long term investors will LOVE IT!

Vegas

Transfers are traceable.

If it happens in the wallet and hits the blockchain the wallet and everyone else reading the blockchain will be able to trace it.

It is the non-staking tradable feature for exchanges or the single exchange that the coin is trading on.

We all have 2 addresses currently, so we are all doing the transfer now.

It was a really good idea IMHO, and thank you for responding.
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December 10, 2015, 10:46:03 PM
BUMP!

I believe this idea has merit and deserves a valid response on if it could be implemented or too far of a code fork.

OK,
New Idea to solve this issue at hand.

On Fly Wallet, There has to be Two different Types of Address for each wallet.

1 Type Address is call the Staking Address
Where you can store coins , but it stakes the coins so you gain your interest,
Whenever you send coins out of this type address , then you are charged the 10% which goes to the superfly.

2nd type address is called Non-Staking Address.
Any coins store here do not stake , so they do not gain interest.
You can send from this address without paying the fee.

Any Exchange would keep all of their coins in the Non-Staking type Addresses, so they would never be charged the 10% fee , and can send out the exact amount purchased.

Users will store their coins in the type 1 staking address to earn interest and if they dump , they are charged the fee.
Users that store their coins in type 2 non-staking address , would not be a problem, as it would be no different for them than buying it on the exchange and letting it sit there. But it would also give fly the ability to purchase items by using this address without the fee.

Additional Options :
You can place a limit on the amount of fly send out per block, if you feel the need.
Also the addresses need a slightly different prefix , so you can tell just by looking if the address is staking or nonstaking.
Example Staking address all start with FS, all non staking start with FN ,
2 separate type address on 1 blockchain,  Wink

 Cool

FYI:
@cryptonit, if you claim this idea was yours first,
I will have to sue you for copyright infringement, Just Kidding, LOL  Cheesy

The only issue I see is this leaves a giant hole for dumpers, so lets say I have 2000 coins, and im staking them in type 1 wallet, and then one day I decide I want to dump them, then I simply move them to my "type 2 address", then  quickly send them to the exchange and dump (no fees). I love looking at new ideas, but it also must be secure. The MAJOR benefit of FLY is it cannot be dumped. Always keeping prices high, and even higher as when more people realize this they will buy because of this security. It also filters out short term traders and dumpers. They wont even look twice at this, and its meant to be this way. Long term investors will LOVE IT!

Vegas
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December 10, 2015, 10:35:55 PM
Just sent a PM to Kees to be added to the list. I am usually not one to announce my wallet but having made a significant investment in this coin, I'll play along.
I just hope the potential of this coin is not killed by the rules on transactions and they instead contribute to its success.

It does concern me though.



I read an old post last night from Satoshis account on the forums telling a user that he was concerned over wikileaks using bitcoin. That bitcoin was in its infancy and that kind of adoption would absolutely destroy the project. He stated that they shouldnt " bring it on" as the user had implied.

Fly is super young and these guidlines are being put in place to protect your investment from the people that are looking to manipulate and saturate markets, get a quick buck and move on to the next ect.

I wouldnt imagine that this is forever. Things arent the same as they used to be. Fly is exposed to an entirely different envirement than it would have been years ago. Just long enough to let it blossom before it is mangled and left without a snowballs chance in...well...you know...

I am with you on your thoughts here. Part of the reason I bought in pretty big was that these guidelines around the transactions were being put in place. I think they are a fantastic initiative.
My main concern is that they will take too long to bed down and interest in the coin could  be lost.

Having said that, I am confident in my investment and with patience, the slow release of my staked funds will be a long term payoff that will see me miles in front. I am in for the long haul here.

Loss of interest is where we as the community come into play. Our only responsibility is to stay true to the idea here, spread the word and sell our stakes. We maintain the market and make it scarce. People should catch on once its been, lets say, a whole year and this currency is still held at a high value. That will be insentive. Why else do people buy dash or ltc?

In this stage of the game a devoted collective is essential for this coins success. With a few security measures to add of course  Wink

BUMP!

I believe this idea has merit and deserves a valid response on if it could be implemented or too far of a code fork.

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Ahh, didnt see this one. I just pmed Vegasguy about something really similar. Something along the lines of a masternode like wallet with standard pos ( no masternode rewards ) and fees for taking from the collateral.
legendary
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December 10, 2015, 10:34:27 PM
Just sent a PM to Kees to be added to the list. I am usually not one to announce my wallet but having made a significant investment in this coin, I'll play along.
I just hope the potential of this coin is not killed by the rules on transactions and they instead contribute to its success.

It does concern me though.


Fallout, you nailed it 100%!!! This is a long term investment that is secured by a unique antidump feature that protects everyone. You profit from your stakes , and this keeps the market still scarce, and prices high, and you can even sell some from your main wallet each day without taking a massive penalty on fees.

I listen to everyone. So if you have a suggestion for improvement, by all means please suggest. The rules wont tighten in the future, they will actually relax. I created a defensive position to protect my investors from short term traders/dumpers. Ultimately I am the one thats responsible for this coins performance. Once everything is in place , I will relax the rules and make it easier for everyone to move a moderate amount of coins easily. I probably will never make it easy to dump large amounts as I just dont see how that benefits anyone and always hurts prices.

Vegas
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December 10, 2015, 10:06:20 PM
Just sent a PM to Kees to be added to the list. I am usually not one to announce my wallet but having made a significant investment in this coin, I'll play along.
I just hope the potential of this coin is not killed by the rules on transactions and they instead contribute to its success.

It does concern me though.



I read an old post last night from Satoshis account on the forums telling a user that he was concerned over wikileaks using bitcoin. That bitcoin was in its infancy and that kind of adoption would absolutely destroy the project. He stated that they shouldnt " bring it on" as the user had implied.

Fly is super young and these guidlines are being put in place to protect your investment from the people that are looking to manipulate and saturate markets, get a quick buck and move on to the next ect.

I wouldnt imagine that this is forever. Things arent the same as they used to be. Fly is exposed to an entirely different envirement than it would have been years ago. Just long enough to let it blossom before it is mangled and left without a snowballs chance in...well...you know...

I am with you on your thoughts here. Part of the reason I bought in pretty big was that these guidelines around the transactions were being put in place. I think they are a fantastic initiative.
My main concern is that they will take too long to bed down and interest in the coin could  be lost.

Having said that, I am confident in my investment and with patience, the slow release of my staked funds will be a long term payoff that will see me miles in front. I am in for the long haul here.
hero member
Activity: 661
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We only want the FACTS!
December 10, 2015, 10:01:18 PM
BUMP!

I believe this idea has merit and deserves a valid response on if it could be implemented or too far of a code fork.

OK,
New Idea to solve this issue at hand.

On Fly Wallet, There has to be Two different Types of Address for each wallet.

1 Type Address is call the Staking Address
Where you can store coins , but it stakes the coins so you gain your interest,
Whenever you send coins out of this type address , then you are charged the 10% which goes to the superfly.

2nd type address is called Non-Staking Address.
Any coins store here do not stake , so they do not gain interest.
You can send from this address without paying the fee.

Any Exchange would keep all of their coins in the Non-Staking type Addresses, so they would never be charged the 10% fee , and can send out the exact amount purchased.

Users will store their coins in the type 1 staking address to earn interest and if they dump , they are charged the fee.
Users that store their coins in type 2 non-staking address , would not be a problem, as it would be no different for them than buying it on the exchange and letting it sit there. But it would also give fly the ability to purchase items by using this address without the fee.

Additional Options :
You can place a limit on the amount of fly send out per block, if you feel the need.
Also the addresses need a slightly different prefix , so you can tell just by looking if the address is staking or nonstaking.
Example Staking address all start with FS, all non staking start with FN ,
2 separate type address on 1 blockchain,  Wink

 Cool

FYI:
@cryptonit, if you claim this idea was yours first,
I will have to sue you for copyright infringement, Just Kidding, LOL  Cheesy
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Activity: 368
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December 10, 2015, 09:59:12 PM
Just sent a PM to Kees to be added to the list. I am usually not one to announce my wallet but having made a significant investment in this coin, I'll play along.
I just hope the potential of this coin is not killed by the rules on transactions and they instead contribute to its success.

It does concern me though.



I read an old post last night from Satoshis account on the forums telling a user that he was concerned over wikileaks using bitcoin. That bitcoin was in its infancy and that kind of adoption would absolutely destroy the project. He stated that they shouldnt " bring it on" as the user had implied.

Fly is super young and these guidlines are being put in place to protect your investment from the people that are looking to manipulate and saturate markets, get a quick buck and move on to the next ect.

I wouldnt imagine that this is forever. Things arent the same as they used to be. Fly is exposed to an entirely different envirement than it would have been years ago. Just long enough to let it blossom before it is mangled and left without a snowballs chance in...well...you know...
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December 10, 2015, 09:39:11 PM
Just sent a PM to Kees to be added to the list. I am usually not one to announce my wallet but having made a significant investment in this coin, I'll play along.
I just hope the potential of this coin is not killed by the rules on transactions and they instead contribute to its success.

It does concern me though.

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December 10, 2015, 09:20:18 PM
I just got to say that Vegasguy has always been straight forward with me and I've never had any problems with him or anything and I like that he decided to make a coin like FLY which is completely unique compared to other coins out there.  I also totally respect that Vegasguy wanted to create a coin that people would be more inclined to invest and hold their coins instead of looking to make another just pump it and dump it bullshit scam coin that every other coin out there is nowadays Smiley Keep up the good work Vegasguy Smiley I am still trying to scrape more and more FLY to hit that 100 FLY mark right now but it's tough to get some because people aren't that willing to sell their FLY which is a good sign but sucks when you are trying to get your hands on some Tongue Cheers
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December 10, 2015, 08:49:34 PM
He can say whatever he wants. I would just prefer it to be at a less annoying and consistant rate.

An actual rebuttal would atleast make it a little more entertaining rather than just being a pure annoyance..  Grin

I would respond..but LOL.. how to do even respond to "vegas is stupid", and "this coin sucks" and childish comments like that?? LOL.

Vegas

In the 3rd grade, it was easy, a few your mama so fat jokes and if the dog had not beat me over the fence ,
i be your daddy.   Smiley

Just Sayin,
AG18

Right. Cool man.

Peace.

Vegas
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December 10, 2015, 08:48:49 PM
He can say whatever he wants. I would just prefer it to be at a less annoying and consistant rate.

An actual rebuttal would atleast make it a little more entertaining rather than just being a pure annoyance..  Grin

I would respond..but LOL.. how to do even respond to "vegas is stupid", and "this coin sucks" and childish comments like that?? LOL.

Vegas

In the 3rd grade, it was easy, a few your mama so fat jokes and if the dog had not beat me over the fence ,
i be your daddy.   Smiley

Just Sayin,
AG18
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December 10, 2015, 08:42:17 PM
He can say whatever he wants. I would just prefer it to be at a less annoying and consistant rate.

An actual rebuttal would atleast make it a little more entertaining rather than just being a pure annoyance..  Grin

I would respond..but LOL.. how to do even respond to "vegas is stupid", and "this coin sucks" and childish comments like that?? LOL.

Vegas

Exactly. I feel like everytime i visit the thread its mostly him blabbing about some horse shit over and over for like a week. Figured i would take a shot at plucking the thorn, atleast momentarily.

Anyway, patients is key everyone! If you did your part and researched what you were buying into you would understand the schematics that drive this force..

You should all know why you are apart of this community. Ive been here, quietly, from the very beginning. POW, swap, implementations you name it... This coin has been ever so kind to me throughout the entire process. Shit, my only regret is not finishing out the proof of work phase..


Yes, you know already this coin will be one of those coins that will be sacred, and WILL go to the moon. Some see it , some dont. Eventually all will Wink

Vegas
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December 10, 2015, 08:38:31 PM
He can say whatever he wants. I would just prefer it to be at a less annoying and consistant rate.

An actual rebuttal would atleast make it a little more entertaining rather than just being a pure annoyance..  Grin

I would respond..but LOL.. how to do even respond to "vegas is stupid", and "this coin sucks" and childish comments like that?? LOL.

Vegas

Exactly. I feel like everytime i visit the thread its mostly him blabbing about some horse shit over and over for like a week. Figured i would take a shot at plucking the thorn, atleast momentarily.

Anyway, patients is key everyone! If you did your part and researched what you were buying into you would understand the schematics that drive this force..

You should all know why you are apart of this community. Ive been here, quietly, from the very beginning. POW, swap, implementations you name it... This coin has been ever so kind to me throughout the entire process. Shit, my only regret is not finishing out the proof of work phase..



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December 10, 2015, 08:31:17 PM
Ya, all you need to do is PM Keesdewit your FLY address to get on the exempt withdrawal list. Did you give him your FLY address? He will need that too. Please PM him again and youll be exempt from withdrawal fees with the next wallet release. The version we had with high sending fees and free withdrawals based on fly address did work fine, so I dont want to take a step backward to no fees at all. It stopped working when we tried to exempt everyone from withdrawal fees. So for now we will use a code thats known to work. Also no fees at all does not fund the Superfly wallet, so that is not an option as people like their superfly rewards and I dont blame them.

Vegas
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December 10, 2015, 08:28:06 PM
Hi Vegas.

Can you clearly detail how we get on this 'exempt list'
I sent a PM to Keesdewit over a week ago to claim my address with no response.
What exactly do people need to do?

For what its worth, it might be simpler and will probably create less confusion and more interest in the coin to just drop the selective fees until we are up and running with finalized and tested code.
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December 10, 2015, 08:20:30 PM
He can say whatever he wants. I would just prefer it to be at a less annoying and consistant rate.

An actual rebuttal would atleast make it a little more entertaining rather than just being a pure annoyance..  Grin

I would respond..but LOL.. how to do even respond to "vegas is stupid", and "this coin sucks" and childish comments like that?? LOL.

Vegas
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December 10, 2015, 08:18:06 PM
He can say whatever he wants. I would just prefer it to be at a less annoying and consistant rate.

An actual rebuttal would atleast make it a little more entertaining rather than just being a pure annoyance..  Grin
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December 10, 2015, 08:06:12 PM
Its clear this guy is very young, and very angry about something that is unrelated to me. Im not worried. He can say whatever he wants. If he likes venting his frustration with the world here, ok. The proof is in my actions. I hate promises. I love delivery. Im here every single day working on this project. As Im retired this is what I enjoy doing for part of my day, everyday. Anyone can look over this project and see my pure determination and intensity, and pure passion about FLY coin. I can guarantee there is NOBODY more dedicated to their coin as much as myself, and if there is, I want to see it. I have NEVER missed one day of posting, not 1. I always keep my investors in the loop about whats going on. If he wants to try to bash this coin, I say let him. Its a test of the coins strength. Quickly he will find out it has no effect. See, the only issue we have is getting compatible with the exchange because of the my new unorthodox ideas ive been trying. So its not fair to everyone to keep exchange down, so very soon we will return to our old code to get our exchange working again. That is the one that still had high tx sending fees and most people exempted (manually) , but you had to put in a request to Keesdewit for that withdrawal exemption, but it worked. Then once we are active on the exchange again, we will take our time and test and roll out that major update exempting everyone from withdrawal fees. Until then , Ill get us working on the exchange again. Also it lets everyone know im doing the right thing. Heres why: A good fudster , does research and brings truth that hurts. The couple of times ive been ripped off, I make sure my 1 solid punch goes right into their heart, and I rip it out and hand it to them. I BRING FACTS THAT ARE VERIFIABLE, and when I post it with proof to back it up, they drop to their knees. Ask Spiralout, he wronged our team. Everyone wanted me to avenge the damage he caused, and so I did. I made sure he lost about 1/2 of his coins, and I even PMed him 3 days in advance and told him he would. LOL. I swore I would never use my gift as a weapon, but sometimes its too tempting and I let my passion about this project get the better of me. It was fun too Smiley I feel its my DUTY to protect the investors that have trusted me. So thats the worst this guy will find about me, that if you intentionally cross me, it will not be good for you. But this information is not new, and many know it. I am a good person, Im loyal and honest and caring and compassionate, im giving, but I have no patience for liars and thieves, and they bring out my nasty side. A good fudster brings facts about the dev or team leader that can be proven and verified. So its beneficial to me to keep him here, because if there really was anything that is negative and factual I can guarantee , he would have already posted it. There is a reason he hasnt, ive done nothing wrong. Im not perfect, but Im not a scammer or a thief or a liar. I wont run off and abandon my investors or crap like that. I took this project on and I will see to it that it not only works as intended, but stay for years, until I pass the torch to someone worthy of my hard work , years down the road. Until then I will be here EVERY DAY and enjoy the rewards with everyone, and enjoy the advancements. So that is proof to my investors, that I have unbreakable integrity and my character is strong, because if it was not, this guy would have posted it already, many times over. So everything has a silver lining. While he is screaming the word "fly coin" from the top of his lungs , he is getting more people to look at fly, and they will look past his worthless comments like "fly is worthless", and "vegas is stupid" ect, and find the most amazing coin ever created Smiley

I love Crypto Wink


Vegas

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December 10, 2015, 07:56:39 PM
I like the concepts of FLY and am totally behind this coin but think that it would be really nice as soon as all these problems were figured out and maybe it would be kind of cool if some of the big whale holders of FLY showed some love for the little guys by maybe doing a little giveaway of a couple FLY to help us little guys out get a little more involved in this great coin and idea Cheesy I mean I just think it would definitely show a lot to the little guys if they did something like that to help some of us little guys out that don't exactly have the BTC to just buy a bunch of FLY Smiley You could host some giveaways or something to really show that you guys are truly in this for the little guys as well  Cheesy

if its as valuable as VEGAS makes it out to be why would they just give it away?

oh right.  because there is NO value. 

Why do you care so much?

thanks for asking!

mainly because VEGAS is such a huge fucking tool.  look at the guys posts, this is nothing but a huge popularity contest for him to make a few friends.  there is nothing new going on here, NOBODY would ever adopt any of the bullshit hacked into this bullshit.

soon enough, it will be dead for good.  that i assure you.

VEGAS...........DOUCHE!!!

Do you own any?

why would i buy a shitcoin that i will never be able to sell? 

youll see soon enough why they wont be able to be sold, even on your golden exchange.  just wait.  Grin

Well, it seems as if that shouldnt be any of your concern. You seem to give a heaping load of shit about something that youve already made perfectly clear you dont give a shit about..

What are you, 16? 17?
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December 10, 2015, 07:46:01 PM
I like the concepts of FLY and am totally behind this coin but think that it would be really nice as soon as all these problems were figured out and maybe it would be kind of cool if some of the big whale holders of FLY showed some love for the little guys by maybe doing a little giveaway of a couple FLY to help us little guys out get a little more involved in this great coin and idea Cheesy I mean I just think it would definitely show a lot to the little guys if they did something like that to help some of us little guys out that don't exactly have the BTC to just buy a bunch of FLY Smiley You could host some giveaways or something to really show that you guys are truly in this for the little guys as well  Cheesy

if its as valuable as VEGAS makes it out to be why would they just give it away?

oh right.  because there is NO value. 

Why do you care so much?
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