Online gambling risks during coronavirus pandemic - page 4.

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Quote from: Silberman on May 21, 2021, 01:57:29 PM

Quote from: FatFork on May 09, 2021, 02:27:08 AM

Social distancing should not lead to social isolation, so talk to your friends and peers and discuss your gambling problem with them. Having support can make a big difference. [/li][/list]

While this is completely correct at the same time it is very difficult to implement for someone that is on the verge of getting addicted to gambling, your loved ones are the best support system that you can possibly have however when people lose so much money they get embarrassed and instead of telling their family members they hide it so they fail to receive their support as externally there does not seem to be any problem unlike what happens with alcoholics and drug addicts, so this creates an scenario where they want to gamble even more as they want to recover their money with nefarious results.

I see what you mean. Unfortunately, the lack of support from loved ones can result in the worst consequences in cases of gambling addiction. They eventually end up destitute and homeless. Destitution is the common story for many gambling addicts as there is no sense of dignity or pride left in them. In a nut shell, they get an addiction because they lack something in their lives and what do they do when they are without money and jobs and when the addiction consumes them, they get helplessness and they lose their life!

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Am certainly picking one or two points from here but afaik not everyone is reacting the same to the pandemic, others might see isolation to be the answer to keeping oneself safe from it but this would work in the short term but indeed our social skills could be dented, it's scary if you think about it, I hope these vaccines we getting better the situation.

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Quote from: FatFork on May 09, 2021, 02:27:08 AM

Social distancing should not lead to social isolation, so talk to your friends and peers and discuss your gambling problem with them. Having support can make a big difference. [/li][/list]

While this is completely correct at the same time it is very difficult to implement for someone that is on the verge of getting addicted to gambling, your loved ones are the best support system that you can possibly have however when people lose so much money they get embarrassed and instead of telling their family members they hide it so they fail to receive their support as externally there does not seem to be any problem unlike what happens with alcoholics and drug addicts, so this creates an scenario where they want to gamble even more as they want to recover their money with nefarious results.

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Quote from: South Park on May 19, 2021, 05:20:57 PM

I think the main difference is that due to the pandemic many people lost their social lives and they were missing that aspect of their lives, so for those that were susceptible to becoming addicted to gambling this became a big problem because if the circumstances had been different maybe they could have avoided becoming addicted by having some other things on their lives, but without any support system they kept gambling trying to get some entertainment out of it only to find themselves addicted and having no way out of it.

Of course, these one and a half years of the pandemic have seriously changed the social life of people around the world. Of course, if you spend more time in the house on isolation, more time on the Internet, and therefore more on gambling sites. Unfortunately, you will lose more accordingly. Alas! Here the statistics are undeniable!
And in this regard, I have to say that there is a greater responsibility for public health on gambling sites than in pre-pandemic times. I hope the leaders and devs of the largest gambling sites realize this and accordingly take measures to soften the conditions of the games or give out bonuses. And not just make extra profits by taking advantage of the moment.
Although I understand that I may be wrong Sad

, it would be right for the well-being and harmony in the world.

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And games and gambling too but I am not spending lot of money for gambling in the recent years so I can assure that I am not trapped into any kind of addiction related to gambling. And you are right if we are spending more time at home and we got money to spend then gambling is one of the way available for us.

So people who chooses it make sure that they are in control of what they are doing.

There are gamblers that cannot stop themselves even if they've planned it very well. The control is a very important matter that should be done when we're staying at home.
Or is there really something new when we've been even gambling when we're always at home even before the pandemic has happened? I think for us who have been here, nothing had changed a lot.

I think the main difference is that due to the pandemic many people lost their social lives and they were missing that aspect of their lives, so for those that were susceptible to becoming addicted to gambling this became a big problem because if the circumstances had been different maybe they could have avoided becoming addicted by having some other things on their lives, but without any support system they kept gambling trying to get some entertainment out of it only to find themselves addicted and having no way out of it.

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Quote from: delfastTions on May 16, 2021, 12:53:23 PM

Quote from: FatFork on May 09, 2021, 02:27:08 AM

If you decide to gamble, you should keep a record of how much money and time you spend on gambling daily. Studies show that gamblers lose track of how much time and money they spend on gambling.

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I definitely like this OP advice. But there is generally a problem, of course, you can write down both the amount and the time, and then you will get excited, try to stop! Sometimes you tell yourself, well, I'll add a minute more to the game time, then another minute, etc. And with the money, too, $10, another $5 ... Sad

The problem is that it is too difficult to fulfill these requirements accurately and rigidly.

Most of the time that's what happened to each gamblers, instead of limiting time and the money to spend they'll got excited or aggressive thinking that it might be theeir lucky day.

It said that limiting your fund and the time that you'll spend inside the house save you that much, but the actual problem is on how will you execute it.

Once you already enjoyed or you already losing the way you think is different from how you really plan before playing.

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Quote from: Dread Pirate Roberts on May 16, 2021, 06:38:51 AM

Not doing anything while this pandemic its doesnt mean the gambling its the option for filling time. there is many thing to do such read book . watching movie . planning for project . gambling based on habits and mindset doing something productive in some area for future will change those habits and mindseet .

in the pandemic, gambling should only be a stress reliever...

Gambling is not a bad thing when you are able to control your desire, all the decisions in your hands whether you want to use small or large capital. One more thing, during this pandemic, don't use money for your family's daily needs to gamble.

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Quote from: delfastTions on May 16, 2021, 12:53:23 PM

Quote from: FatFork on May 09, 2021, 02:27:08 AM

If you decide to gamble, you should keep a record of how much money and time you spend on gambling daily. Studies show that gamblers lose track of how much time and money they spend on gambling.

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I definitely like this OP advice. But there is generally a problem, of course, you can write down both the amount and the time, and then you will get excited, try to stop! Sometimes you tell yourself, well, I'll add a minute more to the game time, then another minute, etc. And with the money, too, $10, another $5 ... Sad

The problem is that it is too difficult to fulfill these requirements accurately and rigidly.

The trouble is a gambler is rarely analytical, outside of certain skill based games where you can get an edge - like poker. Someone who goes to the lengths of recording time and money will most likely be playing a game where it is possible to get an edge or advantage over the house/other players. They will be able to see over a period of weeks or months whether their play is profitable enough versus time spent. As there are almost none cryptocurrency based poker sites, I have to assume that gamblers here is not referring to a skill based game. In which case a gambler will quickly see the futility of recording their profit rate (negative), at which point they will either 1) ignore it and revert back to thrill seeking or 2) have to quit the game or accept that they are giving away money over the long term.

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Quote from: Dread Pirate Roberts on May 16, 2021, 06:38:51 AM

Not doing anything while this pandemic its doesnt mean the gambling its the option for filling time. there is many thing to do such read book . watching movie . planning for project . gambling based on habits and mindset doing something productive in some area for future will change those habits and mindseet .

Right, there are other activities that can be done during this pandemic.

But not everyone of us are sharing the same interest with those activities. And that's why many have been into gambling because they can have fun and saw that there's an earning opportunity but I hope that many of them have understood that it's a difficult thing if they're doing it.

Quote from: michellee on May 18, 2021, 06:07:32 AM

Having a positive mindset will make them productive and have a chance to make money besides surviving in this pandemic.

I agree, in other things and survival is what it's like this pandemic times.

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Quote from: FatFork on May 09, 2021, 02:27:08 AM

Social distancing should not lead to social isolation, so talk to your friends and peers and discuss your gambling problem with them. Having support can make a big difference.

This one is particularly important, as for the past year many people have stayed isolated and, while some may prefer it and even see it as a benefit, for many people, it's been stress they were not prepared for.

It's a common belief, that gambling is triggered by greed and too much excitement over such games, but the reality is that a large portion of gamblers is doing it out of boredom, loneliness, and a sense of isolation. Gambling serves them as entertainment and a distraction from the problems and such people are more likely to become addicted, due to this consolation they seek in gambling.

Even years ago it's been common knowledge, there's an interesting study, which was conducted back in 1998 when people used to gamble with EGM, that shows that among problem gamblers are more likely to experience boredom and loneliness as compared to non-gamblers or non-problematic gamblers.

I'm sorry but I don't think it's specific to gambling, many other activities could be done alone without friends, like video gaming, reading, watching TV, cooking, running, etc so I think it's big bullshit to say that "a large portion of gamblers is doing it out of boredom, loneliness, and a sense of isolation". I don't think this portion is larger than in other lonely activities, it's just some anti-gambling propaganda, gamblers mostly gamble to try to earn big money, that's it.

I can see your point, but I suspect that you are not seeing mine. Of course not everyone when bored will engage with gambling right away. There are many other activities, as you've listed them, to engage with out of boredom. No way I was trying to spread "some anti-gambling propaganda", oh no. I myself am promoting a gambling site after all. I would rather agree with you that gamblers mostly gamble to try to earn big money, but that part which is left, although a minority, is a huge one, it's millions of people, tens of millions probably. For those people the coronavirus pandemic has made things worse, the risks of becoming gambling addicts have increased for them.

Yes you're promoting a gambling site as you say that's why I don't understand why you are criticizing people who gamble and relaying the common anti-gambling propaganda(that's not the first post I read from you with this kind of speech). I suspect you to dislike gambling actually. 😕

No, actually I don't. 🙂 It brings joy to most of the people doing it, so why would I dislike it? It is just as if I was working in sweet drinks producing company, and hated it when some people were becoming overweight, or getting cardiovascular disease, or diabetes, because of drinking too much of those beverages, meaning consuming too much sugar. I myself like sweet drinks, but I don't like when people hurt themselves by overusing them.

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Quote from: Dread Pirate Roberts on May 16, 2021, 06:38:51 AM

Not doing anything while this pandemic its doesnt mean the gambling its the option for filling time. there is many thing to do such read book . watching movie . planning for project . gambling based on habits and mindset doing something productive in some area for future will change those habits and mindseet .

Yes that's right but not everyone thinks in the same way. While some utilize their time to do productive things the others procrastinate.
So yes there are chances of people gambling too often than they used to and probably get addicted to it.
This is where we have to be aware of what we are doing and OP has done a good job posting this thread.

If people can find what things can make them busy to make money, they will not think about playing gambling because the important thing now is how they can fill their needs in this pandemic and how they can survive. But that will not happen to the gambler who is often playing gambling in the offline casino because they will search for the online casino and try their luck to play any gambling games they know.

Having a positive mindset will make them productive and have a chance to make money besides surviving in this pandemic.

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Quote from: delfastTions on May 16, 2021, 12:53:23 PM

Quote from: FatFork on May 09, 2021, 02:27:08 AM

If you decide to gamble, you should keep a record of how much money and time you spend on gambling daily. Studies show that gamblers lose track of how much time and money they spend on gambling.

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I definitely like this OP advice. But there is generally a problem, of course, you can write down both the amount and the time, and then you will get excited, try to stop! Sometimes you tell yourself, well, I'll add a minute more to the game time, then another minute, etc. And with the money, too, $10, another $5 ... Sad

The problem is that it is too difficult to fulfill these requirements accurately and rigidly.

Well, if your sole purpose to gamble is not about the money and it is all about the fun and could be it is a boredom killer of you. There is no need to write it down because in the first place, you know in yourself how to manage it from possible addiction. But if you really want to why not, but for sure it will annoy you and it seems if you know that you have a larger loss it will be thinking you to chase your loss.

The risk is, it could increase the number of addictions, here in our country there is online gambling that everyone or almost everyone has been used. It is an ^{[online sabong]} that I thought before it will impossible to happen but now it is very trending.

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Quote from: delfastTions on May 16, 2021, 12:53:23 PM

Quote from: FatFork on May 09, 2021, 02:27:08 AM

If you decide to gamble, you should keep a record of how much money and time you spend on gambling daily. Studies show that gamblers lose track of how much time and money they spend on gambling.

...

I definitely like this OP advice. But there is generally a problem, of course, you can write down both the amount and the time, and then you will get excited, try to stop! Sometimes you tell yourself, well, I'll add a minute more to the game time, then another minute, etc. And with the money, too, $10, another $5 ... Sad

The problem is that it is too difficult to fulfill these requirements accurately and rigidly.

Rarely do we record game studies on gambling how much money is spent a day in gambling, sometimes we can't control it by playing continuously and as you say, provided that at least we know the money spent if it is recorded then we will know too. and quit, so there's no extra time were with the $15-10 bills.
Gambling games do not always feel like time and even forget everything when you are playing and that is why you keep accurate how much you spend in gambling.

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Quote from: FatFork on May 09, 2021, 02:27:08 AM

If you decide to gamble, you should keep a record of how much money and time you spend on gambling daily. Studies show that gamblers lose track of how much time and money they spend on gambling.

...

I definitely like this OP advice. But there is generally a problem, of course, you can write down both the amount and the time, and then you will get excited, try to stop! Sometimes you tell yourself, well, I'll add a minute more to the game time, then another minute, etc. And with the money, too, $10, another $5 ... Sad

The problem is that it is too difficult to fulfill these requirements accurately and rigidly.

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Quote from: Dread Pirate Roberts on May 16, 2021, 06:38:51 AM

Not doing anything while this pandemic its doesnt mean the gambling its the option for filling time. there is many thing to do such read book . watching movie . planning for project . gambling based on habits and mindset doing something productive in some area for future will change those habits and mindseet .

Yes that's right but not everyone thinks in the same way. While some utilize their time to do productive things the others procrastinate.
So yes there are chances of people gambling too often than they used to and probably get addicted to it.
This is where we have to be aware of what we are doing and OP has done a good job posting this thread.

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Quote from: BuNga_cute on May 16, 2021, 07:44:00 AM

It is true that we do not recommend using borrowed money for anything, because we will bear the burden of paying installments.
It will make us become depressed in living life, it is better if we use the money according to our respective abilities. But indeed many
people find playing gambling using borrowed money, and I have not found anyone who is lucky to win gambling with borrowed money.
Although there is definitely a very small percentage. Especially in a pandemic situation like now, which is very difficult to make money.
So don't try to borrow money to play gambling.

Even if we know the consequence of the borrowed money, I wonder why people still borrow money from others and use it to play gambling. Maybe a person is lucky to win gambling with borrowed money, but the percentage will not be too big while the rest are losing that money and making them hard to repay the money. In this pandemic, I think it is better that we are trying to survive and if we have money, we should use it to fills our daily needs because that is what we must concern. Playing gambling can be anytime, but our life will be the most important to take care of.

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Usually people start to mess their lives after playing gambling using borrowed money, because gambling is not used as a source of income.
So it is very dangerous if someone forces to play gambling using borrowed money, I make sure that the person in the future will experience
very severe financial problems. Moreover, the person is addicted to gambling, using borrowed money will only make his life ruined, and it could
end that all his assets are used up to pay off debts. That's why playing gambling must have a separate budget and it comes from the extra
money we have.

We already see many examples of people who borrow money and use it to gamble. They think that the money can help them to make money but they are wrong. Even if you borrow the money for other things, it could still be dangerous for you because you need to repay it. If you do not have a source income or do not have a job, you will confuse about how you can pay the money back. If the addicted person borrows the money, that will not take too long to see if he will lose that money unless he can get lucky to win from the game to repay the money and take the rest of the money.

It is true that we do not recommend using borrowed money for anything, because we will bear the burden of paying installments.
It will make us become depressed in living life, it is better if we use the money according to our respective abilities. But indeed many
people find playing gambling using borrowed money, and I have not found anyone who is lucky to win gambling with borrowed money.
Although there is definitely a very small percentage. Especially in a pandemic situation like now, which is very difficult to make money.
So don't try to borrow money to play gambling.

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Not doing anything while this pandemic its doesnt mean the gambling its the option for filling time. there is many thing to do such read book . watching movie . planning for project . gambling based on habits and mindset doing something productive in some area for future will change those habits and mindseet .

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Quote from: mediaBuzz on May 15, 2021, 05:21:32 PM

Actually, some of the tips work for me naturally lol. But not in the way Gonidis suggested. I start doing all these tips only after losing a significant amount: I start wanting to go for a walk, I start recording and limiting my spending for tomorrow, try to find other stimulations to keep my mind not to think in what shit am I. Besides jokes, I believe the last tip is actually worth trying. You do not control your thoughts when you catch a losing streak until you throw everything in your pocket and outer help from someone who truly understands your situation might help.

It's really a big challenge if you have the money and you have the time and you are into gambling, it's hard to keep up with all the tips unless you are a responsible and a guy with good character, i always advice my friend and I'm also trying to do this to cultivate a strong character because if you do not have this you are going to fall to a lot of temptation and gambling is one of them.

Now I am not a big gambler, but I did some small amount of it and enjoyed it a lot too, but for some times it's not something you should be doing because of all the stress it puts you. Really, if you really have the money, and if you are the right guy and if you don't mind losing money, then by all means you go for it, but it's kind of hard for the average Joe to get a hold of it.

As I'm not rich or being very lucky, I think I still have some bad habits I have to change.

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Quote from: mediaBuzz on May 15, 2021, 05:21:32 PM

Actually, some of the tips work for me naturally lol. But not in the way Gonidis suggested. I start doing all these tips only after losing a significant amount: I start wanting to go for a walk, I start recording and limiting my spending for tomorrow, try to find other stimulations to keep my mind not to think in what shit am I. Besides jokes, I believe the last tip is actually worth trying. You do not control your thoughts when you catch a losing streak until you throw everything in your pocket and outer help from someone who truly understands your situation might help.

It's really a big challenge if you have the money and you have the time and you are into gambling, it's hard to keep up with all the tips unless you are a responsible and a guy with good character, i always advice my friend and I'm also trying to do this to cultivate a strong character because if you do not have this you are going to fall to a lot of temptation and gambling is one of them.

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