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Quote from: Questat on August 18, 2021, 09:43:28 AM

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What i get from high risk high return is not really can be implemented in crypto. Because sometimes high risk not give us really good return in the end especially if we made investment. Percentage of risk and return is all depends on the coin itself. Because sometimes we use small amount of money which it made us to think it will risk a litle from all our money give us big profit.

Risking more is just like spending more money on crypto having an assumption that they can make more profit from it which I think was not impossible. I don't think also that it was not applicable in the crypto space. Imagine, if you are buying Bitcoin worth $10k before, you can imagine how much it was today, yeah, you can simply never think it before because it was not how we look into Bitcoin. But for now, many have got attracted to invest in Bitcoin, and despite the high risk, we never lose our hopes.

They are been attracted with the profit that's why many want to join without even thinking the risk, although its quite possible to earn on crypto but we should need to learn on how to counteract on our losses since if we just lame around and think about I can lose what I put then provably we will struggle to earn.

But if investors will invest and know about the risk then its good to let hem do it since they will realize that how hard to gain on bitcoin and cryptocurrency.

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Quote from: topbitcoin on August 18, 2021, 09:14:44 AM

What i get from high risk high return is not really can be implemented in crypto. Because sometimes high risk not give us really good return in the end especially if we made investment. Percentage of risk and return is all depends on the coin itself. Because sometimes we use small amount of money which it made us to think it will risk a litle from all our money give us big profit.

Risking more is just like spending more money on crypto having an assumption that they can make more profit from it which I think was not impossible. I don't think also that it was not applicable in the crypto space. Imagine, if you are buying Bitcoin worth $10k before, you can imagine how much it was today, yeah, you can simply never think it before because it was not how we look into Bitcoin. But for now, many have got attracted to invest in Bitcoin, and despite the high risk, we never lose our hopes.

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What i get from high risk high return is not really can be implemented in crypto. Because sometimes high risk not give us really good return in the end especially if we made investment. Percentage of risk and return is all depends on the coin itself. Because sometimes we use small amount of money which it made us to think it will risk a litle from all our money give us big profit.

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Quote from: Skinny48 on July 15, 2021, 05:22:54 AM

Soldiers don't go to war just because they can win or not, they did that to safe their families and friends, they crave for peace and better future, if there aren't soldiers in your country you won't have peace and time to come on here, are you the type of man that condemned the sacrifice of soldiers? They are better than you and I mate, think deeply, also this has nothing to do with crypto investment and economy if you aren't ready to take risks or probably lose you won't be able to win if you invest in crypto, with the will of taking risks and the will of learning from your mistakes you will eventually win.

sometimes they force to play war, they dont have any option, just do it first before the opponents do it first to you.
and yeah, mistake you made will give high percentage of winning. pilling up experience make user stronger.
high risk high return is absolute thing, and knowledgeable with full of experience is absolutely absolute

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Agreed, I believe high risk high return is a very broad term. For example, my friends are all into trading, but after they've burned through their accounts, they're all into axie, which is high risk at the time, but has a bright future, so we could say it's also high reward. I now regard them as wealthy because they are willing to take risks and recognize that they will not always be able to recoup their investment. I believe that the HYIP or ponzi schemes he is referring to are the majority of them, as there are currently only a few.

I don't know when your friends invested in Axie, but if that happened before the end of June this year, they've got 10x to 17x return by now, which is really amazing. However, if they invested much more than they could easily afford to lose, even though they have become rich this time, I would advise against such behavior in the future lest they become poor.

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Quote from: StanleyBoyle on August 04, 2021, 03:26:17 AM

My personal experience tells me that every time I say high-risk and high-return, I always remember the high-return but always forget the three words high-risk habitually.

In fact, people will know that when investing has a high profit, it is automatically a high risk, many say bitcoin/crypto is gambling but I don't think so because there are many factors that make us believe this is not gambling.

This fact is somewhat too general and sometimes misinterprets some points, it is generally more accurate to risk based on the investor's economic background, a person with good economics won't worry about losing a few thousand dollars while a person with poor economics will be the opposite. It's just one of a few small factors, but it can be said that believing in that rule is an incomplete experience, however, we cannot attribute all of that deficiency to young men, age does not define a person's experience

Experience doesn't always imply better skills in this or that field, so I agree with you. But with that said, I want to note that believing in high risk high return isn't necessarily a bad thing. You just have to weigh your options carefully, and if you put something at high risk, it should be something you can afford to lose.

Agreed, I believe high risk high return is a very broad term. For example, my friends are all into trading, but after they've burned through their accounts, they're all into axie, which is high risk at the time, but has a bright future, so we could say it's also high reward. I now regard them as wealthy because they are willing to take risks and recognize that they will not always be able to recoup their investment. I believe that the HYIP or ponzi schemes he is referring to are the majority of them, as there are currently only a few.

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Quote from: StanleyBoyle on August 04, 2021, 03:26:17 AM

My personal experience tells me that every time I say high-risk and high-return, I always remember the high-return but always forget the three words high-risk habitually.

In fact, people will know that when investing has a high profit, it is automatically a high risk, many say bitcoin/crypto is gambling but I don't think so because there are many factors that make us believe this is not gambling.

This fact is somewhat too general and sometimes misinterprets some points, it is generally more accurate to risk based on the investor's economic background, a person with good economics won't worry about losing a few thousand dollars while a person with poor economics will be the opposite. It's just one of a few small factors, but it can be said that believing in that rule is an incomplete experience, however, we cannot attribute all of that deficiency to young men, age does not define a person's experience

Experience doesn't always imply better skills in this or that field, so I agree with you. But with that said, I want to note that believing in high risk high return isn't necessarily a bad thing. You just have to weigh your options carefully, and if you put something at high risk, it should be something you can afford to lose.

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Quote from: StanleyBoyle on August 04, 2021, 03:26:17 AM

My personal experience tells me that every time I say high-risk and high-return, I always remember the high-return but always forget the three words high-risk habitually.

In fact, people will know that when investing has a high profit, it is automatically a high risk, many say bitcoin/crypto is gambling but I don't think so because there are many factors that make us believe this is not gambling.

This fact is somewhat too general and sometimes misinterprets some points, it is generally more accurate to risk based on the investor's economic background, a person with good economics won't worry about losing a few thousand dollars while a person with poor economics will be the opposite. It's just one of a few small factors, but it can be said that believing in that rule is an incomplete experience, however, we cannot attribute all of that deficiency to young men, age does not define a person's experience

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OP, at first, after reading your post and couple of first replies I thought you were just trolling. But with reading your detailed replies later I got an impression that you really want to talk about something important, but you don't have much to say, and you keep repeating same things all the time,some of which are total nonsense like this one:

Quote from: SaiyanSS3 on July 17, 2021, 04:55:12 AM

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delusional, making 100x profit requires to scam a lot more people than making 2x profit.
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and others showing that you don't understand how economy works, like this one:

Quote from: SaiyanSS3 on July 22, 2021, 01:15:23 AM

~~ it’s very clear inflation is man made and clearly it’s the bank and government interaction that’s the main culprit.
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Do you know that inflation is actually good for the economy? Yes, it shouldn't be too high, I'm talking about a moderate one, but from your post it looks like you think of inflation as absolute evil.

We take risks all the time: in some instances we succeed, and we fail in others. That's life, and it's beautiful. Your argument that we shouldn't take risks because some "elite" benefits more than we do is unconvincing to me.

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My personal experience tells me that every time I say high-risk and high-return, I always remember the high-return but always forget the three words high-risk habitually.

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Quote from: Sayeds56 on August 03, 2021, 08:21:26 AM

Quote from: larus on July 16, 2021, 02:24:56 AM

Sometimes young people are the most lucky ones, they still have their chance of loosing. So, why not?

I think taking high risk in trading or investment has nothing to do with age, some people by nature are inclined towards gambling to get quick rich but my learning through experince and life time observation taught me a clear lessson that such adventures eventually end up in disaster with some exception when they win becuase luck is on their side. Risk managment is a science and we should learn it before jumping into any kind of trading and i can say with confidence you will win most of the time when you follow it.

Absolutely. I don't think is about age even though I do understand why the poster might think this. Older people have come a long way from investments and must have learnt a lot over those times and might have not withness investments as volatile as what we have with Bitcoin or cryptocurrencies today. Now the younger generations that are coming into the market might also be looking at it as a get rich quick thing hence all the losses you will hear and that don't mean older people are not involved in it too.

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Quote from: Sayeds56 on August 03, 2021, 08:21:26 AM

Quote from: larus on July 16, 2021, 02:24:56 AM

Sometimes young people are the most lucky ones, they still have their chance of loosing. So, why not?

I think taking high risk in trading or investment has nothing to do with age, some people by nature are inclined towards gambling to get quick rich but my learning through experince and life time observation taught me a clear lessson that such adventures eventually end up in disaster with some exception when they win becuase luck is on their side. Risk managment is a science and we should learn it before jumping into any kind of trading and i can say with confidence you will win most of the time when you follow it.

Old people are not necessarily wise, this is related to a person's mindset. sometimes even the young ones can calculate everything well. in trading between gambling and trading is always debated. but rest assured for those who gamble here of course it will not last long in the crypto market. it is different for those who are experienced, of course they will be calmer in dealing with profit or loss, because both are common things in trading

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Quote from: larus on July 16, 2021, 02:24:56 AM

Sometimes young people are the most lucky ones, they still have their chance of loosing. So, why not?

I think taking high risk in trading or investment has nothing to do with age, some people by nature are inclined towards gambling to get quick rich but my learning through experince and life time observation taught me a clear lessson that such adventures eventually end up in disaster with some exception when they win becuase luck is on their side. Risk managment is a science and we should learn it before jumping into any kind of trading and i can say with confidence you will win most of the time when you follow it.

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High returns are priced that way to pay participants for TAKING A RISK. It is magical thinking to consider high rewards without being intentional and alert to consequences.

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Quote from: jossiel on August 03, 2021, 03:10:33 AM

Quote from: leetcoiner on August 02, 2021, 03:24:35 PM

Your example does not seem to me appropriate for the economy and the brick market. Here we have Bitcoin that has shown incredible profits in 10 years.
If you sold all your property and invested in Bitcoin for 5 years, it would be a very high risk, but with an equally huge reward.

It's popular that there's a family that have sold their properties and everything for bitcoin on the year 2017, IIRC. It's before the bull run on that time and that guy's family is surely enjoying the risk that they've taken.

That example you've given, it's not that everyone can avail that but only a few and rare people have that guts to do it.

I still remember a video where some bearded guy sold his house and bought Litecoins... not 100% sure, the price was around $3 at that time!

The headline is wrong, only young and naive people don't think about the consequences of the high risk! Focused on possible high returns they don't think about what can/will happen after making a wrong move!
High risk can bring high returns, it's happening all the time. But there's the other side of that coin, probably a bigger one, full of people who tried and lost!

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Elites make money at every situation that is why they are being an elite, and I don't like your comparison though because it sucks. People who are joining in the border force and army has the motto of serving the nation and ready to give their life at anytime so don't insult them as profit and investment.

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Quote from: leetcoiner on August 02, 2021, 03:24:35 PM

Your example does not seem to me appropriate for the economy and the brick market. Here we have Bitcoin that has shown incredible profits in 10 years.
If you sold all your property and invested in Bitcoin for 5 years, it would be a very high risk, but with an equally huge reward.

It's popular that there's a family that have sold their properties and everything for bitcoin on the year 2017, IIRC. It's before the bull run on that time and that guy's family is surely enjoying the risk that they've taken.

That example you've given, it's not that everyone can avail that but only a few and rare people have that guts to do it.

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Quote from: SaiyanSS3 on July 15, 2021, 05:06:25 AM

Only young and naive guy believe in high risk high return

In the world wars, young and naive people go to battle field and fight each other to death, they take risk to protect the war that they can never win, while they’re being manipulate by the other group of elite who do not like to take such risk. These elite tell the young people to take the risk despite they know it’s risky and they don’t want take the risk but want someone else to take such risk. Many people died and sacrificed in the war that can’t be won. The elite do not take the risk, not only they didn’t take risk they also profit a lot from the war, for the people who love to advocate high risk high return, NOPE you’re wrong, they take no risk while they can make the maximum profit that those of you who take risk can only dream of.

Since the war is over, it’s not profitable for the elite anymore. They know what is their next move after the war. Yup, money, they’re now looking at money, they know money has the same properties to a world war, they also know they do not like to take risk, so now they tell all you idiot to take risk that they don’t want to take and deceive you to believe high risk high return, you’re real idiot if you didn’t learn from the previous lesson, you’re idiot if you didn’t learn from the world wars, you’re idiot to take risk that they tell you to take while they making maximum profit taking no risk at all.

Even though what you are saying is not very clear, I would however say that talking about war, the soldiers that go to war do so to keep their nation safe even though most of them end up sacrificing their lives for you and me. Secondly went it comes to cryptocurrency investment, people will also invest in whatever they think will make you profit even if you are not guaranteed.
Risk is part of life, you travelling is a risk because anything can happen on the way and in everything, you must understand that there are winners and losers.

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Quote from: Wawa2013 on July 29, 2021, 06:57:31 PM

People who learn a lot from the mistakes they have made, they begin to be able to face every risk that exists in crypto investment. So don't ever
be lazy to learn, because learning a lot can make us grow and make wise decisions. Even many investors who are already rich and successful,
never stop learning, because it keeps them on the right track. So most of the rich people have gone through many experiences in their lives,
because being rich cannot be obtained overnight.

You need to have that kind of treatment when you are still active inside this business, never to stop learning and keep enhancing your
skills towards this venue of investment.

The more knowledge you gained the wider opportunities you've got from this market, keep yourself open for any changes and adjust if
it's needed for you to do so.

You should be!

This would be requiring continuous learning because we are improving and there are changes which would really be needing new knowledge on making yourself to be safe or aware on what would be the actions you would really do on certain situation or condition.

Human beings are naturally greedy but when you are knowledgeable you would able to save your ass up.

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Your example does not seem to me appropriate for the economy and the brick market. Here we have Bitcoin that has shown incredible profits in 10 years.
If you sold all your property and invested in Bitcoin for 5 years, it would be a very high risk, but with an equally huge reward.

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