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Quote from: Wakate on July 23, 2021, 05:13:38 PM

Taking too much risks in trading and investing is a form of gambling. High risks taker might be luck to make good profits in certain trades while the rest could lead to bad luck. This is why it's not good to copy people's style of trading especially if it has high risks value. Lesser risks is enough to execute a trade in order to avoid unnecessary regrets.

I think so, it is ridiculous if you are too brave to take high risks even though there are high profit prospects, this is the importance of risk management so that we must always think about risk, it is better to look for something safer than later regretting.

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Quote from: Wakate on July 23, 2021, 05:13:38 PM

Taking too much risks in trading and investing is a form of gambling. High risks taker might be luck to make good profits in certain trades while the rest could lead to bad luck. This is why it's not good to copy people's style of trading especially if it has high risks value. Lesser risks is enough to execute a trade in order to avoid unnecessary regrets.

Any kind of risk is gambling, even holding might be considered gambling, because the future is uncertain. Trading is definitely a risky (but profitable) practice, which I used to do in the past. My profit could even surpass 10% on each trade, but stopped because it was too much of a gamble for me. It's a great earning opportunity, if you're willing to take such risks, I couldn't though.

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Quote from: perfect999 on July 23, 2021, 06:31:41 AM

In terms of war, well you’re right about that, but when it is about economy and investment, that’s just how it is; high risk means there is likely to be high profit. It is not everyone that invests in a high risk investment that is going to make profit, some people will face the high risk and some will profit, everybody is not going to win, except those that knows what they are doing. Even at that, no matter how good you are, there are still going to be times that you’re going to face the risk and lose.

So, you misinterpreted it, because in terms of economy and investment, it is high risk and high reward. But it is not the same for war, and war is totally different from investments, it is a thing of death and is a very bad thing. Only stupid people pray for war.

I agree, sure there are high risk and low reward stuff in the world as well which do not make sense and not many people do that but high risk/high reward things are abundant in the world and people take that risk all the time. Even quitting your job to start your own business is not a way to make a profit that easily, it is just very hard and very high risk so you are going to end up with a very big profit if you end up with the right business.

So long story short there are many things in life that causes you to take a risk and the reward is high, it is not even just business or money, even while buying a pillow you may pay a ton of money and take a risk and if you enjoy it a lot then you are doing great but if you end up with a bad pillow you don't enjoy then you paid for nothing. So, it basically means everything in life could include high risk and high reward.

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Taking too much risks in trading and investing is a form of gambling. High risks taker might be luck to make good profits in certain trades while the rest could lead to bad luck. This is why it's not good to copy people's style of trading especially if it has high risks value. Lesser risks is enough to execute a trade in order to avoid unnecessary regrets.

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Quote from: SaiyanSS3 on July 15, 2021, 05:06:25 AM

Since the war is over, it’s not profitable for the elite anymore. They know what is their next move after the war. Yup, money, they’re now looking at money, they know money has the same properties to a world war, they also know they do not like to take risk, so now they tell all you idiot to take risk that they don’t want to take and deceive you to believe high risk high return, you’re real idiot if you didn’t learn from the previous lesson, you’re idiot if you didn’t learn from the world wars, you’re idiot to take risk that they tell you to take while they making maximum profit taking no risk at all.

In terms of war, well you’re right about that, but when it is about economy and investment, that’s just how it is; high risk means there is likely to be high profit. It is not everyone that invests in a high risk investment that is going to make profit, some people will face the high risk and some will profit, everybody is not going to win, except those that knows what they are doing. Even at that, no matter how good you are, there are still going to be times that you’re going to face the risk and lose.

So, you misinterpreted it, because in terms of economy and investment, it is high risk and high reward. But it is not the same for war, and war is totally different from investments, it is a thing of death and is a very bad thing. Only stupid people pray for war.

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Quote from: JillianTaft on July 23, 2021, 02:23:49 AM

OP means that high-risk and high-reward should not be believed? As a crypto investor, isn't it a high-risk place in the crypto market? Without risk, there is no proportional return, and only if you have the ability to take risks can you be eligible for profit.

Well, OP is wrong in a lot of places, I mean it has been shown that some high risk and high reward endeavors do pay off big time so I don't get why OP is saying that people who have this kind of approach are naive, I think OP is the naive one here.

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I think it's just a choice, whether you stay or change. Even though the topic you are discussing is about war which does have a link between politics and economics, in the past war was about fighting over a territory, now war is a competition for profits even though the risks are high. The problem is in your own mind, in Crypto anyone who is able to take high risks will get high profits. In price history, you can conclude that BTC is very profitable in the long run as long as you can change your mindset and know how it works. This is a market where there are buyers and sellers, haggling over prices to make a profit.

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OP means that high-risk and high-reward should not be believed? As a crypto investor, isn't it a high-risk place in the crypto market? Without risk, there is no proportional return, and only if you have the ability to take risks can you be eligible for profit.

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Well, if being naive is taking high risk then call me as one because the moment that I have invested in bitcoin I was ready for all the risk that there is for me to see. Also, isn't life all about taking risks and taking the win? If you don't take risk OP then you are probably a coward.

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Quote from: Kasabus on July 20, 2021, 04:04:53 PM

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There are many new projects that say that 80% of the high-risk and high-returns are deceptive. Generally, the project party will say that the profit is very large, or that it can get investors through speculation coins. Generally, don’t invest in this kind of project. If you If you really want to take a risk, you can look at value coins or mainstream coins. Don't look at some new projects, keep a clear head, and don't be fooled by the project team.

New projects hold no guarantees these days that they will be more profitable from those old coins. Scammers are rampant and so we have to be more careful when it comes to choosing for coins to invest. I still have high beliefs for old and trusted coins because of their good potentials to grow their value in the days to come rather than entrusting my money into such new projects which would mean very risky to invest.

Entrusting funds to a new project is indeed risky, unless we can analyze a project properly, otherwise our risk will be much greater. when the price drops like this I think investing in old projects is safer, although there is no guarantee either, but at least the project already has a large capitalization

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Time = Money
>The world of finance follows the same rule! So whoever has longer time in hand, is more willing or capable to take risk. Because that person knows that if anything goes wrong, he/she has time to recover.
for peasant like you all, you’re just a live stock to bank and government, they would never stop taking money off you even in extreme difficulty moment, pandemic is no exception, anything with loan with the bank and government would never stop rolling in debt.

>On the other hand, an old person doesn't have a lot of time in hand. So they are not much willing to take risk. It's as simple!
bullshit, everybody once have their youth too, they didn’t just magically doesn’t have a lot of time.

>However, millionaires are less prone to all this because they make their own rules! Let's not complicate this!
to make it simple, government and bank are pushing you all to make a living by gambling on high risk high return, even a toddler can get this point easily.

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I don't understand the comparison of war and investments but I agree to some point about high risk and high return logic.
you don’t need to understand anything. It’s too easy nobody should have confused to such idea.

>And for those elite, yeah, they won't be the ones that will be on the floor battling their enemies and have their lives at risk but instead they hire someone to fight for them
government officials is the most typical elite in this space, why would the government need to take risk? They never need to take risk, they could get their hand on bitcoin by just confiscating from all you plebs, you all can take risk with your money for all they care since you would take loan from the government that come with interest too, government love all of you taking loan to gambling on high risk high reward venture. They would have more than happy if you all take all the money and invested into bitcoin!

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>What I believe your post is trying to talk about is some countries who make weapon of war always like to instigate wars so that they can sell their machine and war materials
Generally every nation share some common belief. This being their bank would operate in the same manner, the government intercept into every bank operation, eventually driving inflation higher, it’s very clear inflation is man made and clearly it’s the bank and government interaction that’s the main culprit.

because for them it is business and making money and whether young people die or not isn't their business. They make agreement with some government to trade in troublesome environment so that issues of conflict will keep arising
whether you want to gambling into making high reward from high risk, bank and government would hardly care. But bitcoin and crypto has raised the eyebrow of the banker and government, they are panic to see the price keep soaring and it’s intriguing because bank and government rarely give a damn to you peasant who take risk to gamble, it’s unprecedented they’re threatened by the gamblers who are in the crypto. Is the high risk high return work just as usual to a point the bank and government decide to clamp down on bitcoin?

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Quote from: Ausgewielt on July 19, 2021, 01:53:15 AM

In investing I looking for the lowest risk and higher return that I can get. In my point of view Bitcoin provide small risk and higher return rather than bank deposit and etc. The price is volatile but since I know it then I only need to know when to buy and when to sell. If there is a new altcoin project which has great people behind it I will still invest in it although the risk is higher than bitcoin but it has very good potential to give me higher return. Now I invest in TRX because I think it has good potential to get big market share of gamers community.

That is the chart you have to look at when you are investing. If something is low risk and high return then its worthy, but if something is very high risk but even greater HUGE reward then it worths it as well. Like for example if there is a chance of me making 50% profit with 2% chance of losing it all, I will take it, but if I take a 90% chance of losing my money with 50x profit chance then I will end up taking that too. It is not about the risk that we take its more about the risk/reward ratio and if you can hit it then it is going to be fine.

The reality is that as long as the reward potential is good enough then the risk is fine, the riskier it gets the higher reward potential it should be. I invest according to that, for example low risk stuff like bitcoin and ethereum I put a lot of money into them (for me) and in smaller cap under 100 million cap things I put 50 bucks to 100 bucks in them. That is another way to saving your portfolio from having high risk as well.

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There is a bit of a miscommunication in the world right now. What we should be focusing on here is the fact that we are talking about a high risk is something you can take when you are younger and have less responsibility, if you are a 16 year old who has to work to help his family is a very different situation then a 40 year old who has a "rich daddy", so it is not really the same thing.

The point here is not really about young or old, it is more about having the chance to risk something or not risk something, if you have a lot of money and no responsibilities then you can risk some money, if you have no money and have a lot of responsibilities then you can't take a risk. In general young people have less responsibility then older people, that is why this was about age but that is just the average, there are exceptions of course to this situation.

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There are many new projects that say that 80% of the high-risk and high-returns are deceptive. Generally, the project party will say that the profit is very large, or that it can get investors through speculation coins. Generally, don’t invest in this kind of project. If you If you really want to take a risk, you can look at value coins or mainstream coins. Don't look at some new projects, keep a clear head, and don't be fooled by the project team.

New projects hold no guarantees these days that they will be more profitable from those old coins. Scammers are rampant and so we have to be more careful when it comes to choosing for coins to invest. I still have high beliefs for old and trusted coins because of their good potentials to grow their value in the days to come rather than entrusting my money into such new projects which would mean very risky to invest.

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Quote from: Dread Pirate Roberts on July 19, 2021, 09:30:28 AM

High Risk High Return are basic fundamentals on investment. and that must be accompanied by knowledge, experience, the concept is old and can still be applicable with any investment choices, knowledge is also needed in all kinds of investments, if carelessly and just because people brave to accept risk without having knowledge first and without experienced there will be problems later. either about how to manage it or something else.

Too much confidence is not good, you're only thinking and considering yourselves to be brave but actually the knowledge is lacking. That's really a wrong mindset because there's no easy task in return of your efforts to earn an easiest profit. We need patience, instead of risking your money on unknown investments, and one example I wanted to share here was ponzi scheme and several projects that has unknown platforms.

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Quote from: Yatsan on July 19, 2021, 05:37:09 PM

It is because sometimes high risks makes good returns in favor of the one's who have the courage to take the risk of getting into something that he believes could possibly grow into something that is interesting. Most of the people are getting afraid of the consequences of the high risks actions being done by young minds because of no assurance that it would success and progress for the long run. But come to think of it, you will never know once you have already tried it right? Risks always comes before discoveries which makes young people that many says to be naive a successful one because he have the guts to take the risks and those who criticized him will soon to follow. But that will not always apply in all situation. You still must assess before doing engagement specially if you know you will be taking a high risk action.

Young or old it doesnt really matter because there are really people who do really love to look upon big returns which they do only differ on how a certain person do realize on how big the risk involved with that.

For newbies or noobs out there then its a common act that they'll dive in without hesitance or minding off about the chance of losing and just directly make out actions without minding nor expecting to lose
but once they do have the experience and still able to take the risk same on the time when they had just started then there are really people who do really have this kind of fixed mindset.

Doesnt need neither you are old or young because risk takers would really be aiming for high return.

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It is because sometimes high risks makes good returns in favor of the one's who have the courage to take the risk of getting into something that he believes could possibly grow into something that is interesting. Most of the people are getting afraid of the consequences of the high risks actions being done by young minds because of no assurance that it would success and progress for the long run. But come to think of it, you will never know once you have already tried it right? Risks always comes before discoveries which makes young people that many says to be naive a successful one because he have the guts to take the risks and those who criticized him will soon to follow. But that will not always apply in all situation. You still must assess before doing engagement specially if you know you will be taking a high risk action.

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you are talking about the shallow thinking of young people, but in my opinion not really because the high risk of losing everything is very high, the profit is nowhere to be seen, only to lose everything. only their property. Like you say people join soldiers and they think that risk will win, not necessarily right but not necessarily wrong depending on the situation.

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not young guys but what can i see is more older age groups are being scammed because they have the money to invest but they can have a less knowledge on what they are going thru but younger groups today are more inteligent because they are exposed all the time in thier smartphones and pc's.
they will know if what is hot and what is not, they will research if that is trusted or scam.

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