Topic: [OPEN] Confirmed*PAID* USA NO VAT KnC Neptune#3 - .25 BTC = 17 Shares = ~60 Gh/s - page 29. (Read 131525 times)
September 23, 2013, 05:28:53 PM
Willing to sell my 4 shares for original 2 BTC
September 23, 2013, 05:05:54 PM
Idea: could KNC request that some people pay a relatively small amount to take the spots this group buy previously occupied in the queue? It'd make refunds a bit more fair. I find it unlikely that every order in the queue has already started production; if there are 11 Saturns or whatever it was that have been ordered but are not being manufactured, then that means they can just queue jump, which is honestly good for everyone.
Basically, KNC is going to make a few extra bucks by canceling this order, and everyone else will get a higher place in the queue, so why can't we get in on this win/win deal?
Basically, KNC is going to make a few extra bucks by canceling this order, and everyone else will get a higher place in the queue, so why can't we get in on this win/win deal?
September 23, 2013, 04:23:57 PM
Chenchunyu, i'm only selling my shares to you for the original 0.5 btc per share, not the reduced amount plus 0.02 btc. You're getting a miner from a very good order time. It will be profitable as hell for you! Many people would pay a lot more for the queue place. You can just sell the miner when you got it in hand and will probably double your money... you're not getting it on discount now, you're supposed to pay the original price, which is still an awesome deal.
Think about it and tell me, otherwise tomorrow I'll just go on the normal refund list.
Think about it and tell me, otherwise tomorrow I'll just go on the normal refund list.
September 23, 2013, 04:23:24 PM
chenchunyu88 I'd be happy to sell you my 6 shares for the 3 btc I put in for them.
I think you must be getting close to the 78 now.
I think you must be getting close to the 78 now.
September 23, 2013, 04:09:52 PM
I have received the private message regarding the refund.
According to the current BTC price and the BTC price in the *declared* day of payment, I would lose about 25% of my original investement.
As you never provided us with a proof of the payments, as far as I am concerned, you paid the machine yesterday or *never*. That means you should be able to refund me fully, i.e. 6 BTC for 12 shares.
If you provide a proof. of the payment date (which I highly doubt), instead, I could even change my mind and wait for the miners to be delivered.
Best regards,
ilpirata79
According to the current BTC price and the BTC price in the *declared* day of payment, I would lose about 25% of my original investement.
As you never provided us with a proof of the payments, as far as I am concerned, you paid the machine yesterday or *never*. That means you should be able to refund me fully, i.e. 6 BTC for 12 shares.
If you provide a proof. of the payment date (which I highly doubt), instead, I could even change my mind and wait for the miners to be delivered.
Best regards,
ilpirata79
September 23, 2013, 04:05:34 PM
I'll sell a share for .5BTC if somebody wants to buy a machine. I'd prefer to do all I can to not lose my .1BTC in question, but I suppose it's okay if we just do the refund as planned, for the current BTC price.
September 23, 2013, 04:03:31 PM
As a member of the non-paid for Jupiter 2 purchase, I request my refund of BTC3.6 asap please to 12pKn7W3nyUKW8LQSRGR8YR9bhZAzbrYrj
From TXID c5d72a1d5ecc8787fafb8fdb531767d40754af8830a03dc7033966b919b72620-000
From TXID c5d72a1d5ecc8787fafb8fdb531767d40754af8830a03dc7033966b919b72620-000
September 23, 2013, 03:54:01 PM
At this point, my only concern is if KNC will deliver the miner on time. If so, I can buy 74 shares. I bought 4 shares in the 8th Saturn.
How about this, everyone request refund from KNC, and once the number reaches 74 shares, I send my money directly to KNCMiner and KNCMiner deliver the miner to me at the original dates.
To reimburse to lose of investment in buy KNCminer using BTC, I can cover each share with 0.02BTC, which means, for the first 74 shares in this groupbuy and agree to pass the shares to me, you get your refund from KNCMiner plus 0.02BTC for each share from me once the KNCMiner is delivered to me. If KNCMiner fails to deliver the miner to me, I am not responsible to honor the 0.02BTC for each share.
I will input all the information here:
https://docs.google.com/spreadsheet/ccc?key=0Aid_TNJuQOqgdHE1RFlLLXY5UXZaY3JfOG90bVk4U1E&usp=sharing
I also need ragingazn628 and KNCMiner's permission to do this.
If you are willing to participate, please quote and reply this post so that everybody can see it.
He can also have my twelve shares (for 6 bitcoins), so now it has 22/78.
Best regards,
ilpirata79
How about this, everyone request refund from KNC, and once the number reaches 74 shares, I send my money directly to KNCMiner and KNCMiner deliver the miner to me at the original dates.
To reimburse to lose of investment in buy KNCminer using BTC, I can cover each share with 0.02BTC, which means, for the first 74 shares in this groupbuy and agree to pass the shares to me, you get your refund from KNCMiner plus 0.02BTC for each share from me once the KNCMiner is delivered to me. If KNCMiner fails to deliver the miner to me, I am not responsible to honor the 0.02BTC for each share.
I will input all the information here:
https://docs.google.com/spreadsheet/ccc?key=0Aid_TNJuQOqgdHE1RFlLLXY5UXZaY3JfOG90bVk4U1E&usp=sharing
I also need ragingazn628 and KNCMiner's permission to do this.
If you are willing to participate, please quote and reply this post so that everybody can see it.
Ragin, since chenchunyu88 wants to buy one of the miners and I'd like to sell him my shares, should I fill out the refund form or not?
Also, I'd urge everyone to consider that first.
He is probably going to refund you in full (not 90%) and then at least something good comes out of this.
Full refund for us and a miner for chenchunyu88. Win, win.
For him to take over a Saturn, he needs to get 78 shares.
He can have my 10, so that's 10/78.
Also, I'd urge everyone to consider that first.
He is probably going to refund you in full (not 90%) and then at least something good comes out of this.
Full refund for us and a miner for chenchunyu88. Win, win.
For him to take over a Saturn, he needs to get 78 shares.
He can have my 10, so that's 10/78.
He can also have my twelve shares (for 6 bitcoins), so now it has 22/78.
Best regards,
ilpirata79
I am available for selling my shares only if they are paid in at maximum a few days (say 2 or 3). Regarding the price, I just want what I paid and not the additional 0.02BTC (so 0.5 btc per share). Off course, once my shares are sold, I cannot guarantee that the miners are delivered in time or *at all*.
Best regards,
ilpirata79
September 23, 2013, 03:22:52 PM
chenchunyu88, i'll sell you my 5 shares (Saturn #4).. already sent you a PM
September 23, 2013, 02:50:24 PM
Since The jupiter miner was not paid for, can can you issue these refunds now?
Ok I sent out PM's as much as I can. I will do the rest soon.
I did not PM these people yet.
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Gyu - $500 PP - 10 Shares
czspeedycz - 3BTC - 5 Shares
mightycount $500 PP - 6 Shares (6 on #1 Jup 4 on #2 Jup)
143 / 143
Jupiter #2:
mightycount $500 PP - 4 Shares
Bamdad - .55 BTC - 1 Share
Fantazygirl - $200 PP - 4 Shares
jongaper - 1.6 BTC - 2 Share
m_yaw - .6 BTC - 1 Share
2400baud - $100 PP - 2 Shares
peterlex - $500 PP - 10 Shares
jamesc760 - .5 BTC - .4 BTC pending - 1 Share
antihero_929 - 3.6 BTC - 4 Shares
DugOutDad - 3.6 BTC - 4 Shares
dma88 - $100 PP - 2 Shares
phongnv - $150 PP - 3 Shares
wiredmine - $100 PP - 2 Shares
wolfskill - .9 BTC - 1 Share
annoSeriousW - 3.6 BTC - 4 Shares
piecinitup - .9 BTC - 1 Share
azenor - $300 PP - 6 Shares
gtdevo - 2.1 BTC - 3 Shares
nobunaga - $400 PP - 8 Shares
emeraldforce - .6 BTC - 1 Share
czspeedycz - 3BTC - 5 Shares
mightycount $500 PP - 6 Shares (6 on #1 Jup 4 on #2 Jup)
143 / 143
Jupiter #2:
mightycount $500 PP - 4 Shares
Bamdad - .55 BTC - 1 Share
Fantazygirl - $200 PP - 4 Shares
jongaper - 1.6 BTC - 2 Share
m_yaw - .6 BTC - 1 Share
2400baud - $100 PP - 2 Shares
peterlex - $500 PP - 10 Shares
jamesc760 - .5 BTC - .4 BTC pending - 1 Share
antihero_929 - 3.6 BTC - 4 Shares
DugOutDad - 3.6 BTC - 4 Shares
dma88 - $100 PP - 2 Shares
phongnv - $150 PP - 3 Shares
wiredmine - $100 PP - 2 Shares
wolfskill - .9 BTC - 1 Share
annoSeriousW - 3.6 BTC - 4 Shares
piecinitup - .9 BTC - 1 Share
azenor - $300 PP - 6 Shares
gtdevo - 2.1 BTC - 3 Shares
nobunaga - $400 PP - 8 Shares
emeraldforce - .6 BTC - 1 Share
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Hey there,
Do you want a refund for your KnCMiner share? It will be shipping in about a week! I would highly suggest that you keep your share and mine with us. I will be refunding individuals that wants their BTC / USD back. I think you will make a lot more BTC if you stay with the KnCMiners since they are shipping in about a week! Or you can sell your shares to other people in this group buy.
Please let me know what you would like to do.
Sam Cole said that we have until Wednesday to decide what to do. He said he can send the BTC today (249 BTC) and everyone's refund will be reflected upon the new price.
So for example:
If you paid .5 BTC = $50 you will get ~.4 BTC = $52 back
We can have the BTC refunded TODAY!
Please use this form so I can organize things better. I will initiate PMs now to share holders to see if they still want a refund or not.
OFFICIAL REFUND FORM:
https://docs.google.com/forms/d/1mVahCvc1ga8TlJetqIH_laeFOw7jCSyfkePuhP2JEwA/viewform
Do you want a refund for your KnCMiner share? It will be shipping in about a week! I would highly suggest that you keep your share and mine with us. I will be refunding individuals that wants their BTC / USD back. I think you will make a lot more BTC if you stay with the KnCMiners since they are shipping in about a week! Or you can sell your shares to other people in this group buy.
Please let me know what you would like to do.
Sam Cole said that we have until Wednesday to decide what to do. He said he can send the BTC today (249 BTC) and everyone's refund will be reflected upon the new price.
So for example:
If you paid .5 BTC = $50 you will get ~.4 BTC = $52 back
We can have the BTC refunded TODAY!
Please use this form so I can organize things better. I will initiate PMs now to share holders to see if they still want a refund or not.
OFFICIAL REFUND FORM:
https://docs.google.com/forms/d/1mVahCvc1ga8TlJetqIH_laeFOw7jCSyfkePuhP2JEwA/viewform
September 23, 2013, 02:38:24 PM
I would like to sell my 10 shares for 5 BTC to chenchunyu88 (it was originally for the 4th KnC Saturn).
September 23, 2013, 02:02:02 PM
At this point, my only concern is if KNC will deliver the miner on time. If so, I can buy 74 shares. I bought 4 shares in the 8th Saturn.
How about this, everyone request refund from KNC, and once the number reaches 74 shares, I send my money directly to KNCMiner and KNCMiner deliver the miner to me at the original dates.
To reimburse to lose of investment in buy KNCminer using BTC, I can cover each share with 0.02BTC, which means, for the first 74 shares in this groupbuy and agree to pass the shares to me, you get your refund from KNCMiner plus 0.02BTC for each share from me once the KNCMiner is delivered to me. If KNCMiner fails to deliver the miner to me, I am not responsible to honor the 0.02BTC for each share.
I will input all the information here:
https://docs.google.com/spreadsheet/ccc?key=0Aid_TNJuQOqgdHE1RFlLLXY5UXZaY3JfOG90bVk4U1E&usp=sharing
I also need ragingazn628 and KNCMiner's permission to do this.
If you are willing to participate, please quote and reply this post so that everybody can see it.
He can also have my twelve shares (for 6 bitcoins), so now it has 22/78.
Best regards,
ilpirata79
How about this, everyone request refund from KNC, and once the number reaches 74 shares, I send my money directly to KNCMiner and KNCMiner deliver the miner to me at the original dates.
To reimburse to lose of investment in buy KNCminer using BTC, I can cover each share with 0.02BTC, which means, for the first 74 shares in this groupbuy and agree to pass the shares to me, you get your refund from KNCMiner plus 0.02BTC for each share from me once the KNCMiner is delivered to me. If KNCMiner fails to deliver the miner to me, I am not responsible to honor the 0.02BTC for each share.
I will input all the information here:
https://docs.google.com/spreadsheet/ccc?key=0Aid_TNJuQOqgdHE1RFlLLXY5UXZaY3JfOG90bVk4U1E&usp=sharing
I also need ragingazn628 and KNCMiner's permission to do this.
If you are willing to participate, please quote and reply this post so that everybody can see it.
Ragin, since chenchunyu88 wants to buy one of the miners and I'd like to sell him my shares, should I fill out the refund form or not?
Also, I'd urge everyone to consider that first.
He is probably going to refund you in full (not 90%) and then at least something good comes out of this.
Full refund for us and a miner for chenchunyu88. Win, win.
For him to take over a Saturn, he needs to get 78 shares.
He can have my 10, so that's 10/78.
Also, I'd urge everyone to consider that first.
He is probably going to refund you in full (not 90%) and then at least something good comes out of this.
Full refund for us and a miner for chenchunyu88. Win, win.
For him to take over a Saturn, he needs to get 78 shares.
He can have my 10, so that's 10/78.
He can also have my twelve shares (for 6 bitcoins), so now it has 22/78.
Best regards,
ilpirata79
This sounds good and all, but 0.02 BTC/share is a lot shorter of the amount we would be losing (which is approximately 20%).
To reimburse the 20% it would have to be around 0.1 BTC/share. Any thoughts on this?
September 23, 2013, 01:21:45 PM
Do you want a refund for your KnCMiner share? It will be shipping in about a week! I would highly suggest that you keep your share and mine with us.
Sure... but who is "us"? How will you organize the profit share?
My advice, if you didn't have the confidence to stay in, you really should get out, even though you (now) see it was never a scam, if you don't have the stomach for it, just get out.
September 23, 2013, 01:07:05 PM
Do you want a refund for your KnCMiner share? It will be shipping in about a week! I would highly suggest that you keep your share and mine with us.
Sure... but who is "us"? How will you organize the profit share?
There are people in the group buy who will still mine. Majority are RL friends from my FB group.
September 23, 2013, 12:56:56 PM
Do you want a refund for your KnCMiner share? It will be shipping in about a week! I would highly suggest that you keep your share and mine with us.
Sure... but who is "us"? How will you organize the profit share?
September 23, 2013, 12:09:40 PM
If no one has any problems I will offer my 6BTC worth of shares also. (only condition is that I receive my 6BTC tonight, thats the only stipulation I have.)
September 23, 2013, 12:07:20 PM
I"m also willing to sell him my 1 share for 0,5 - i'll contact him right now he'll have 23 shares if he wants to buy mine
September 23, 2013, 12:02:47 PM
Sam Cole said this group buy's machines will be shipped next week.
At this point, my only concern is if KNC will deliver the miner on time. If so, I can buy 74 shares. I bought 4 shares in the 8th Saturn.
How about this, everyone request refund from KNC, and once the number reaches 74 shares, I send my money directly to KNCMiner and KNCMiner deliver the miner to me at the original dates.
To reimburse to lose of investment in buy KNCminer using BTC, I can cover each share with 0.02BTC, which means, for the first 74 shares in this groupbuy and agree to pass the shares to me, you get your refund from KNCMiner plus 0.02BTC for each share from me once the KNCMiner is delivered to me. If KNCMiner fails to deliver the miner to me, I am not responsible to honor the 0.02BTC for each share.
I will input all the information here:
https://docs.google.com/spreadsheet/ccc?key=0Aid_TNJuQOqgdHE1RFlLLXY5UXZaY3JfOG90bVk4U1E&usp=sharing
I also need ragingazn628 and KNCMiner's permission to do this.
If you are willing to participate, please quote and reply this post so that everybody can see it.
He can also have my twelve shares (for 6 bitcoins), so now it has 22/78.
Best regards,
ilpirata79
How about this, everyone request refund from KNC, and once the number reaches 74 shares, I send my money directly to KNCMiner and KNCMiner deliver the miner to me at the original dates.
To reimburse to lose of investment in buy KNCminer using BTC, I can cover each share with 0.02BTC, which means, for the first 74 shares in this groupbuy and agree to pass the shares to me, you get your refund from KNCMiner plus 0.02BTC for each share from me once the KNCMiner is delivered to me. If KNCMiner fails to deliver the miner to me, I am not responsible to honor the 0.02BTC for each share.
I will input all the information here:
https://docs.google.com/spreadsheet/ccc?key=0Aid_TNJuQOqgdHE1RFlLLXY5UXZaY3JfOG90bVk4U1E&usp=sharing
I also need ragingazn628 and KNCMiner's permission to do this.
If you are willing to participate, please quote and reply this post so that everybody can see it.
Ragin, since chenchunyu88 wants to buy one of the miners and I'd like to sell him my shares, should I fill out the refund form or not?
Also, I'd urge everyone to consider that first.
He is probably going to refund you in full (not 90%) and then at least something good comes out of this.
Full refund for us and a miner for chenchunyu88. Win, win.
For him to take over a Saturn, he needs to get 78 shares.
He can have my 10, so that's 10/78.
Also, I'd urge everyone to consider that first.
He is probably going to refund you in full (not 90%) and then at least something good comes out of this.
Full refund for us and a miner for chenchunyu88. Win, win.
For him to take over a Saturn, he needs to get 78 shares.
He can have my 10, so that's 10/78.
He can also have my twelve shares (for 6 bitcoins), so now it has 22/78.
Best regards,
ilpirata79
September 23, 2013, 11:55:51 AM
At this point, my only concern is if KNC will deliver the miner on time. If so, I can buy 74 shares. I bought 4 shares in the 8th Saturn.
How about this, everyone request refund from KNC, and once the number reaches 74 shares, I send my money directly to KNCMiner and KNCMiner deliver the miner to me at the original dates.
To reimburse to lose of investment in buy KNCminer using BTC, I can cover each share with 0.02BTC, which means, for the first 74 shares in this groupbuy and agree to pass the shares to me, you get your refund from KNCMiner plus 0.02BTC for each share from me once the KNCMiner is delivered to me. If KNCMiner fails to deliver the miner to me, I am not responsible to honor the 0.02BTC for each share.
I will input all the information here:
https://docs.google.com/spreadsheet/ccc?key=0Aid_TNJuQOqgdHE1RFlLLXY5UXZaY3JfOG90bVk4U1E&usp=sharing
I also need ragingazn628 and KNCMiner's permission to do this.
If you are willing to participate, please quote and reply this post so that everybody can see it.
He can also have my twelve shares (for 6 bitcoins), so now it has 22/78.
Best regards,
ilpirata79
How about this, everyone request refund from KNC, and once the number reaches 74 shares, I send my money directly to KNCMiner and KNCMiner deliver the miner to me at the original dates.
To reimburse to lose of investment in buy KNCminer using BTC, I can cover each share with 0.02BTC, which means, for the first 74 shares in this groupbuy and agree to pass the shares to me, you get your refund from KNCMiner plus 0.02BTC for each share from me once the KNCMiner is delivered to me. If KNCMiner fails to deliver the miner to me, I am not responsible to honor the 0.02BTC for each share.
I will input all the information here:
https://docs.google.com/spreadsheet/ccc?key=0Aid_TNJuQOqgdHE1RFlLLXY5UXZaY3JfOG90bVk4U1E&usp=sharing
I also need ragingazn628 and KNCMiner's permission to do this.
If you are willing to participate, please quote and reply this post so that everybody can see it.
Ragin, since chenchunyu88 wants to buy one of the miners and I'd like to sell him my shares, should I fill out the refund form or not?
Also, I'd urge everyone to consider that first.
He is probably going to refund you in full (not 90%) and then at least something good comes out of this.
Full refund for us and a miner for chenchunyu88. Win, win.
For him to take over a Saturn, he needs to get 78 shares.
He can have my 10, so that's 10/78.
Also, I'd urge everyone to consider that first.
He is probably going to refund you in full (not 90%) and then at least something good comes out of this.
Full refund for us and a miner for chenchunyu88. Win, win.
For him to take over a Saturn, he needs to get 78 shares.
He can have my 10, so that's 10/78.
He can also have my twelve shares (for 6 bitcoins), so now it has 22/78.
Best regards,
ilpirata79
September 23, 2013, 11:48:40 AM
Ragin, since chenchunyu88 wants to buy one of the miners and I'd like to sell him my shares, should I fill out the refund form or not?
Also, I'd urge everyone to consider that first.
He is probably going to refund you in full (not 90%) and then at least something good comes out of this.
Full refund for us and a miner for chenchunyu88. Win, win.
For him to take over a Saturn, he needs to get 78 shares.
He can have my 10, so that's 10/78.
Also, I'd urge everyone to consider that first.
He is probably going to refund you in full (not 90%) and then at least something good comes out of this.
Full refund for us and a miner for chenchunyu88. Win, win.
For him to take over a Saturn, he needs to get 78 shares.
He can have my 10, so that's 10/78.
He can also have my twelve shares (for 6 bitcoins), so now it has 22/78.
Best regards,
ilpirata79
Please let me know ASAP if the shares have been sold to him or not. But as of now 22/78 shares pending going to him for a full machine
- I think it's a smart move for himAs soon as I receive the payment of 6 BTC, my shares go to chenchunyu88. The payment address is the same I used to initially pay for the shares (to be communicated to chenchunyu88 in the way we decide).
Best regards,
ilpirata79
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