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Topic: Open letter to Theymos regarding Butterfly Labs (BFL) - page 2. (Read 15306 times)

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So I put a thread up in the custom hardware section with his lovely quote and it was deleted.  Did I do something wrong?  How come it was deleted, anyone know?

I got banned for posting about their CEO being a convicted mail scammer...I think they don't appreciate you pointing out the terrible people behind this terrible company on their own boards
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That was my initial thought as well, but I wanted to check if I had done something wrong first...
Mods on this forum have been purchased by BFL long ago. Now BFL just blackmails them from time to time by holding evidence of their corruption.

https://bitcointalksearch.org/topic/wow-becoin-failed-to-read-and-comprehend-bfls-policy-on-btc-refunds-137026

Don't confuse the scammy gmaxwell fuckwit with "the mods" generally.
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That was my initial thought as well, but I wanted to check if I had done something wrong first...
Mods on this forum have been purchased by BFL long ago. Now BFL just blackmails them from time to time by holding evidence of their corruption.

https://bitcointalksearch.org/topic/wow-becoin-failed-to-read-and-comprehend-bfls-policy-on-btc-refunds-137026
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So I put a thread up in the custom hardware section with his lovely quote and it was deleted.  Did I do something wrong?  How come it was deleted, anyone know?

It was deleted because the mod of the hardware forum is blatantly biased in support of BFL.

He has hidden dozens of threads in 'OFF TOPIC' to conceal the history of lies going on for years now that BFL has spread. 

That was my initial thought as well, but I wanted to check if I had done something wrong first... 

This forum is a joke IMO, thankfully I read the entire Garr auction drama and now have a much clearer picture of how fucked up this place really is.  The level of fucked up in those two threads is astounding.
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blah blah blah
People with no investment cry
blah blah blah
Internet cry fest

lol Ok I'll be watching what you say in Dec.

saving this for later
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blah blah blah
People with no investment cry
blah blah blah
Internet cry fest
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So I put a thread up in the custom hardware section with his lovely quote and it was deleted.  Did I do something wrong?  How come it was deleted, anyone know?

It was deleted because the mod of the hardware forum is blatantly biased in support of BFL.

He has hidden dozens of threads in 'OFF TOPIC' to conceal the history of lies going on for years now that BFL has spread. 
legendary
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Verified Bernie Bro - Feel The Bern!
So I put a thread up in the custom hardware section with his lovely quote and it was deleted.  Did I do something wrong?  How come it was deleted, anyone know?
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Not gonna lie, that's pretty awesome  Cool
Thank you! I aim to please.
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Not gonna lie, that's pretty awesome  Cool
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Dear Mods,

this is what BFL/Josh thinks about us:

... I tried to be nice and I wanted to help you and you give me all sorts of shit and accusations.  This is why we no longer give a shit about this forum;  Everyone here is monumental assholes, no matter how accommodating one tries to be. 
Meh. Sounds about right, actually...

Actually Josh is a self proclaimed asshole. I have proof too. He say's he masquerades as an asshole to get more business here. Really!

Here is proof
https://bitcointalksearch.org/topic/m.1622626


Internets such a bitch
legendary
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Dear Mods,

this is what BFL/Josh thinks about us:

... I tried to be nice and I wanted to help you and you give me all sorts of shit and accusations.  This is why we no longer give a shit about this forum;  Everyone here is monumental assholes, no matter how accommodating one tries to be. 
Meh. Sounds about right, actually...
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Dear Mods,

this is what BFL/Josh thinks about us:

... I tried to be nice and I wanted to help you and you give me all sorts of shit and accusations.  This is why we no longer give a shit about this forum;  Everyone here is monumental assholes, no matter how accommodating one tries to be. 

That ain't good! Did Josh just call theymos a monumental asshole? If I recall, Atlas pulled a similar stunt, getting permanently banned after he even tried to bribe theymos to overlook it. Sadly, BFL's pockets are deeper than Atlas', flush with monumental assholes' money.

I wonder if there's a connection between Josh losing weight and his recent runnin' amok episodes. Surely, Sonny ain't back on cocaine like he was in Laissez Faire City with his Danny-O, this time trading the blow for a blow.
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Dear Mods,

this is what BFL/Josh thinks about us:

... I tried to be nice and I wanted to help you and you give me all sorts of shit and accusations.  This is why we no longer give a shit about this forum;  Everyone here is monumental assholes, no matter how accommodating one tries to be. 
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So exactly how many units do they have to deliver in order to get the scammer tag?

If they delivered 0 units, they probably would get the scammer tag.
If they delivered 1 unit?
2 units?

Right now they delivered ~5,000 units I think.

Mafia's can run several successful businesses and be loved by the public. They have great services like laundry mat chains and restaurants auto shops and nice large grocery chains. Now mind you their enemy is the government so they're a bit more efficient however not very legal all the same.

The scam is not in the products and I don't believe a scammer tag should be given to BFL for products being developed and delivered. What they should be tagged for was how they got to this point by using pre-orders to fund the research and development of the products.

If you believe they had venture capital and did not use pre-order money to RnD then why would you have to give 100% payment upfront for more than a year with a plethura of updates saying shipping was in a couple of weeks only to be disapointed. Why not just take emails or at most a 20% deposit.

When you buy a new home you sign the agreement with the builder and drop a 500 dollar check as a deposit and a month or two before the home is finished being built you go in to your lawyer and finalize your papers which your signature grants the bank to issue the rest of the funds.

Now this is a large scale purchase but even a bank won't send pre-order money until the home is in its final stage.

BFL has taken 100% payment for products that did not exists and to a certain degree still don't. If they had venture capital (anon source btw) why the 100% deposit?

This is all legal btw only because the consumers are naive,inexperienced and greedy.

Everything else you buy online is a finished product so payments in full are required. However I really don't know any other product out there you pay 100% and are still in development.

If anyone here does let me know.  
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So exactly how many units do they have to deliver in order to get the scammer tag?

If they delivered 0 units, they probably would get the scammer tag.
If they delivered 1 unit?
2 units?

Right now they delivered ~5,000 units I think.
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Anyone interested in pre-order a 1000?

Estimated deliver in the week of July. Depending on supplies.

You mean "in two weeks (© BFL_Josh)"?

Definitely interested. But only if I have to pay fully upfront.

You must also cover up any shirt redesigns because of power and cooling issues or no sale
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Anyone interested in pre-order a 1000?

Estimated deliver in the week of July. Depending on supplies.

You mean "in two weeks (© BFL_Josh)"?

Definitely interested. But only if I have to pay fully upfront.
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Inaba is a pathological liar as well as a terrible human being, there is no winning here...

Yep. But once BFL goes belly up he will never get another job - other than plongeur.



Oh shit I got a great Idea I'm making T-shirts with this picture.

Anyone interested in pre-order a 1000?

Estimated deliver in the week of July. Depending on supplies.
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Inaba is a pathological liar as well as a terrible human being, there is no winning here...

Yep. But once BFL goes belly up he will never get another job - other than plongeur.

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