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Topic: Open letter to Theymos regarding Butterfly Labs (BFL) - page 4. (Read 15306 times)

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Have fun with it for a few months, they will be useless by winter

If a Jally is useless by winter then so will every other ASIC currently available be, infact avalon/asicminer ones would be even worse off.
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Awesome. You've been so thoroughly shown to be a liar that, quite literally, you are only able to come back with the timing of my post.  That is your only defense.  I guess we're done here.


Tick Tock the clock don't stop...

Sure doesn't!  And seems Jaly's are flying out faster and faster...  OOOhhh, we're almost to my order date!!!

Can't wait to (finally) start mining big(ger)-time.  Patience truly is a virtue, that I am very proud to possess.

Good job BFL following in the very footsteps of Satoshi -- delivering something to humanity that has not been delivered before.


Have fun with it for a few months, they will be useless by winter

Could you please expand on how any current ASIC miners either existing or being produced will "be useless by winter"?



 current diff 15605633.00    est 18602222.61    19.20%    << It's up to 19 percent now. The screen capture was a few days ago where I put the estimated difficulty in the calculator. Its actually worse now 1% more worse.

Here is a graph of bitcoin diff over the last few months


This is only the begining as price for the bitcoins are still profitable at current diff but at 18-19% every two weeks at every target set with the chance of going up faster with every little asic coming out how long will this be profitable for the jala's?

This is the only reason BFL is shipping these now. They know they soon will be useless and no one will buy them. They have only one purpose (bitcoin) they can't do scrypt.

So take the number 15,600,000 and add 18% every two weeks and see how much profit/time you have left.

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Awesome. You've been so thoroughly shown to be a liar that, quite literally, you are only able to come back with the timing of my post.  That is your only defense.  I guess we're done here.


Tick Tock the clock don't stop...

Sure doesn't!  And seems Jaly's are flying out faster and faster...  OOOhhh, we're almost to my order date!!!

Can't wait to (finally) start mining big(ger)-time.  Patience truly is a virtue, that I am very proud to possess.

Good job BFL following in the very footsteps of Satoshi -- delivering something to humanity that has not been delivered before.


Have fun with it for a few months, they will be useless by winter

Could you please expand on how any current ASIC miners either existing or being produced will "be useless by winter"?
legendary
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Verified Bernie Bro - Feel The Bern!
Sorry, not a lie.  We did not have any plans to raise the prices at that time.  However, in light of our increased costs due to the power usage, we were forced to raise the price.  But you already knew that... or are you saying that you're unable to understand cause and effect, so you're just posting randomly?  It honestly wouldn't surprise me if you're unable to understand a simple concept like that, but I thought I'd check.

So go on, lets see you find a lie.  You've yet to produce a single shred of proof for your assertions.  I look forward to seeing you flail about further.


So you guys are not liars just incompetent morons, ok gotcha thanks for clearing that up.
legendary
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Sorry, not a lie.  We did not have any plans to raise the prices at that time.  However, in light of our increased costs due to the power usage, we were forced to raise the price.  But you already knew that... or are you saying that you're unable to understand cause and effect, so you're just posting randomly?  It honestly wouldn't surprise me if you're unable to understand a simple concept like that, but I thought I'd check.

So go on, lets see you find a lie.  You've yet to produce a single shred of proof for your assertions.  I look forward to seeing you flail about further.


Wow! So because you were unable make a good assumption about the power usage you WERE FORCE to raise the price? Why is that? But maybe you already knew that your devices will consume so much power and decided to advertise a lower consumption at a lower price in order to attract more customers. By your logic everything is possible. Who forced you to raise the price due to the increased power usage? Sonny? God? The cleaning lady? Who? And how exactly were you forced? A gun to the head? A carrot in your ass?
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Fixed that for you:

Sorry, not a lie.  We did not have any plans to raise the prices at that time.  However, in light of our increased costs due to the power usage our unimaginable inab(a)ility, we were forced to raise the price.

legendary
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Awesome. You've been so thoroughly shown to be a liar that, quite literally, you are only able to come back with the timing of my post.  That is your only defense.  I guess we're done here.


Tick Tock the clock don't stop...

Sure doesn't!  And seems Jaly's are flying out faster and faster...  OOOhhh, we're almost to my order date!!!

Can't wait to (finally) start mining big(ger)-time.  Patience truly is a virtue, that I am very proud to possess.

Good job BFL following in the very footsteps of Satoshi -- delivering something to humanity that has not been delivered before.


Have fun with it for a few months, they will be useless by winter

OH tHX for teh newz; I surely won't have done a damn thing to expand my operation with all the coin i'll have mined in that timespan!!   Cheesy Roll Eyes

Geez, i have an idea, expand your operation with the measly amount of bitcoins you mine the jala's in a couple months to buy MORE JALAS, if you don;t mind waiting another year PAHAHAHA
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Shame on everything; regret nothing.
Awesome. You've been so thoroughly shown to be a liar that, quite literally, you are only able to come back with the timing of my post.  That is your only defense.  I guess we're done here.


Tick Tock the clock don't stop...

Sure doesn't!  And seems Jaly's are flying out faster and faster...  OOOhhh, we're almost to my order date!!!

Can't wait to (finally) start mining big(ger)-time.  Patience truly is a virtue, that I am very proud to possess.

Good job BFL following in the very footsteps of Satoshi -- delivering something to humanity that has not been delivered before.


Have fun with it for a few months, they will be useless by winter

OH tHX for teh newz; I surely won't have done a damn thing to expand my operation with all the coin i'll have mined in that timespan!!   Cheesy Roll Eyes
legendary
Activity: 910
Merit: 1000
Awesome. You've been so thoroughly shown to be a liar that, quite literally, you are only able to come back with the timing of my post.  That is your only defense.  I guess we're done here.


Tick Tock the clock don't stop...

Sure doesn't!  And seems Jaly's are flying out faster and faster...  OOOhhh, we're almost to my order date!!!

Can't wait to (finally) start mining big(ger)-time.  Patience truly is a virtue, that I am very proud to possess.

Good job BFL following in the very footsteps of Satoshi -- delivering something to humanity that has not been delivered before.


Have fun with it for a few months, they will be useless by winter
hero member
Activity: 686
Merit: 500
Shame on everything; regret nothing.
Awesome. You've been so thoroughly shown to be a liar that, quite literally, you are only able to come back with the timing of my post.  That is your only defense.  I guess we're done here.


Tick Tock the clock don't stop...

Sure doesn't!  And seems Jaly's are flying out faster and faster...  OOOhhh, we're almost to my order date!!!

Can't wait to (finally) start mining big(ger)-time.  Patience truly is a virtue, that I am very proud to possess.

Good job BFL following in the very footsteps of Satoshi -- delivering something to humanity that has not been delivered before.
hero member
Activity: 644
Merit: 500
Awesome. You've been so thoroughly shown to be a liar that, quite literally, you are only able to come back with the timing of my post.  That is your only defense.  I guess we're done here.


Tick Tock the clock don't stop...
legendary
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Awesome. You've been so thoroughly shown to be a liar that, quite literally, you are only able to come back with the timing of my post.  That is your only defense.  I guess we're done here.

hero member
Activity: 644
Merit: 500
Sorry, not a lie.  We did not have any plans to raise the prices at that time.  However, in light of our increased costs due to the power usage, we were forced to raise the price.  But you already knew that... or are you saying that you're unable to understand cause and effect, so you're just posting randomly?  It honestly wouldn't surprise me if you're unable to understand a simple concept like that, but I thought I'd check.

So go on, lets see you find a lie.  You've yet to produce a single shred of proof for your assertions.  I look forward to seeing you flail about further.

Nice a whole 8 minutes. lol You liar!!! I think I'll add it as my signature
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Eloncoin.org - Mars, here we come!
I think I posted this before, but can you imagine in this super connected social media world if a prospect employer searches for Josh' name and find hundreds of people trolling at the guy for his ineptitude?
He better pray BFL does well because the only job he'll get besides BFL will be recycling electronic waste in a third world country!

Don't worry there are many more scammers around the world besides the convicted Sonny Vleisides that would need his services Smiley

What "services" are you talking about? LOL He doesn't provide much of anything...
legendary
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Sorry, not a lie.  We did not have any plans to raise the prices at that time.  However, in light of our increased costs due to the power usage, we were forced to raise the price.  But you already knew that... or are you saying that you're unable to understand cause and effect, so you're just posting randomly?  It honestly wouldn't surprise me if you're unable to understand a simple concept like that, but I thought I'd check.

So go on, lets see you find a lie.  You've yet to produce a single shred of proof for your assertions.  I look forward to seeing you flail about further.
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Although I enjoy these little chats we have I really do wish you well as even though I hate what you have done (being untruthful or deceitful) and are doing I still feel for you as a person. I'm sure you will remember this for the rest of your life as it will carry with you in this field of work. Unless you take a different route of employment or you're a sociopath.

Please, by all means, demonstrate where I've been untruthful or deceitful.  No?  Why not?  Because it never happened.  You troll crew like to trot this out, but to date not a single one of you have been able to demonstrate any lies or deceit. 
lol thanks for asking this I have had a bit of help from the trolls you love.

https://bitcointalksearch.org/topic/m.1205251

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We have absolutely no plans to raise the price after the pre-order phase.  I'm having trouble envisioning a scenario where we would do that.

Thats one lie.  Look at the date.
copper member
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Eloncoin.org - Mars, here we come!
I think I posted this before, but can you imagine in this super connected social media world if a prospect employer searches for Josh' name and find hundreds of people trolling at the guy for his ineptitude?
He better pray BFL does well because the only job he'll get besides BFL will be recycling electronic waste in a third world country!
legendary
Activity: 1904
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I think I posted this before, but can you imagine in this super connected social media world if a prospect employer searches for Josh' name and find hundreds of people trolling at the guy for his ineptitude?
He better pray BFL does well because the only job he'll get besides BFL will be recycling electronic waste in a third world country!

Don't worry there are many more scammers around the world besides the convicted Sonny Vleisides that would need his services Smiley
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I have asked you to demonstrate where I have lied and you have yet to produce any proof.

Here's just the most recent one.

https://forums.butterflylabs.com/pre-sales-questions/3026-forced-refunds.html#post37336
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BFL is not doing forced refunds on anyone.

BFL forced a refund on Xian01.

You know well that comment was made to someone who participated in a group buy, which claimed the guy actually handling the financials for that group buy said BFL did, and was never heard of again, ....
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Has anyone experienced this situation? That BFL forced them to take a refund on their pre-order? I am part of a group that made a decent amount of pre-orders from the the start of pre-order time through to March 2013. The person in charge of the orders informed us at the beginning of May that they had received BFL's ultimatum email that said agree to the current unit specs or get a refund. We were given the impression that this needed within 10 days. We then never heard from the person in charge for about three weeks.

When he did reappear he assured us that BFL had been answered and everything was good, we would be getting our units. Now, as of this morning we are being told that BFL has written us and told us that BFL is forcing us to take a refund on some of our units (all Singles) and that they will not reinstate the orders unless we pay the new higher pricing.

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BFL is not doing forced refunds on anyone.

Whoever you purchased through is lying to you.

Weak, Syke.


SLok you really lick ass well. I shall call you lickabatti from here on.

Weak, as ever.

Frizz23 posting the diagnose his shrink gave after he had nothing left to defend his lies and rigged poll (as an excuse??), Mooc_tals making things up, he has a jalapeno on order that won't make him money, oh no, he cancelled it already, and don't know what to come up with now other than attacks and more lies, that's it?

All that was asked;



 where's the: had to accept updated delivery costs and many chose not to accept the up in fees.?

Ok I was wrong there. I admit that! The confirmation was to power specs that needed to be acknowledged.
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Weak, as ever.

Frizz23 posting the diagnose his shrink gave after he had nothing left to defend his lies and rigged poll (as an excuse??), Mooc_tals making things up, he has a jalapeno on order that won't make him money, oh no, he cancelled it already, and don't know what to come up with now other than attacks and more lies, that's it?

All that was asked;



 where's the: had to accept updated delivery costs and many chose not to accept the up in fees.?

I would like to see your quote here verifying with no doubt that BFL have not coerced existing clients to confirm their orders(1) and the price for the delivery of the orders have not increased(2).

1) Customers that refused to confirm would be delivered to.
2) No additional shipping costs were added

Can you verify that has not happened. After you answer that I will waste my time looking for the information for you.
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