Inaba is a pathological liar as well as a terrible human being, there is no winning here...
Topic: Open letter to Theymos regarding Butterfly Labs (BFL) - page 3. (Read 15323 times)
Inaba is a pathological liar as well as a terrible human being, there is no winning here...
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Although I enjoy these little chats we have I really do wish you well as even though I hate what you have done (being untruthful or deceitful) and are doing I still feel for you as a person. I'm sure you will remember this for the rest of your life as it will carry with you in this field of work. Unless you take a different route of employment or you're a sociopath.
Please, by all means, demonstrate where I've been untruthful or deceitful. No? Why not? Because it never happened. You troll crew like to trot this out, but to date not a single one of you have been able to demonstrate any lies or deceit.
You stupid mother fuckin' liar! Do I really need to quote your "in two weeks" FCC statement for the umpteenth time?
Now dispute this, you cocksucker!
I'm glad that i got another prompt reply from you SLok 
Or is it another retard Inaba's account?
Or is it another retard Inaba's account?I think I gave him quite a bit to think of when I posted that graph earlier. Actually I have updated info.
SLok and all those that are waiting for their pre-orders the difficulty has been revised and were about 75% accurate now!!!.
73.81% accuracy
15605633.00 Difficulty now
19367339.56 Difficulty estimate in 2d 22hr 54m 28s
24.10% JUMP in the past 2 week
I'm glad that i got another prompt reply from you SLok Or is it another retard Inaba's account?
Or is it another retard Inaba's account? Yeah, 300 minus the missing ones from batch one, slowly some batch 2 dripping in. Batch 3, the $8800 ones, hahahaha. Say it again, how a $2499 single won't have a roi, but the $8800 avalon you will get someday, will?
How many jally's did BFL shipped?
I don't even want to start with the chip amounts that each company has sold...
Chip amounts don't mean shit, sold GH does, so 300+600+600(?) x 66GH/unit = 99TH for Avalon,
For Bfl it is easier to count the chips and multiply by 4(GH) or 3, because sold units are unknown, so 70k chips x 4GH/chip = 280TH or 70k x 3GH/chip = 210TH,
Fill in what you expect in GH or TH for the loose chips on top of that for Avalon. BFL will probably sell the same TH on top as those 70k chips, as more units and loose chips. If you think Avalon will do better, whoopee, big deal. I think even my next units will be in my hands before Avalon's or BFL's loose sold chips will be build on boards.
So far everybody seems to be waiting, whether it is for their Avalons or their BFL units, same boat, different directions, I choose BFL.
Have a nice evening.
Are you really that stupid? Let me compare that again:
- UNITS: Avalon sold ~1200 units each having at least 66Ghash. They shipped around 400-450 (+- 100) vs BFL sold <70k units (variable hash rate from 5Ghash up). They shipped less than 100 and only the smallest units. Avalon wins here.
- CHIPS: Avalon sold ~490000+ (that's 490 thousand) chips. They started to ship sample chips and soon will ship the actual chips vs BFL sold ~1000 chips(i may be wrong here). We will see when and IF will they ship them. Avalon wins again.
THashes doesn't matter. I'm talking about actual delivering stuff to people no matter the hash rate (ASIC only)
You may or may not get your units before Avalon's chips get soldered on the boards, but you are the only idiot who is still advertising a non-existing product.
Say it again, how a $2499 single won't have a roi, ...
You can advertise this mystical device in your signature as long as you want - it won't be available for a long, long time.
A Single SC available today would make you some decent money.
A Single SC available sometime in 2014 (or god knows when BFL starts shipping something other than Jalapenos) will actually cost you money.
That graph is unbelievable. The glory days of GPU mining are over that's for sure. 
Yeah, 300 minus the missing ones from batch one, slowly some batch 2 dripping in. Batch 3, the $8800 ones, hahahaha. Say it again, how a $2499 single won't have a roi, but the $8800 avalon you will get someday, will?
How many jally's did BFL shipped?
I don't even want to start with the chip amounts that each company has sold...
Chip amounts don't mean shit, sold GH does, so 300+600+600(?) x 66GH/unit = 99TH for Avalon,
For Bfl it is easier to count the chips and multiply by 4(GH) or 3, because sold units are unknown, so 70k chips x 4GH/chip = 280TH or 70k x 3GH/chip = 210TH,
Fill in what you expect in GH or TH for the loose chips on top of that for Avalon. BFL will probably sell the same TH on top as those 70k chips, as more units and loose chips. If you think Avalon will do better, whoopee, big deal. I think even my next units will be in my hands before Avalon's or BFL's loose sold chips will be build on boards.
So far everybody seems to be waiting, whether it is for their Avalons or their BFL units, same boat, different directions, I choose BFL.
Have a nice evening.
Are you afraid yet? No? You should be...
Look at that difficulty jump in red. Now look at the hash rate, The hash rate has jumped 2 times more quicker than the previous 2 months. Not only is it going higher it's climbing 3X the rate with no stalling. Bitcoin prices are giving a brite green light for mining. Litecoin is atleast being stalled out by the price.
It will be very interesting to see the next 2 weeks estimate jump.
Just look at the stepping of the difficulty and there are not many asics out and were seeing these numbers. This is exponential growth and there is no stopping until the money stops. Just look at that last step. Aft we going to see a 6X jump for the next estimated difficulty?
Remember this is exponential
Avalon and BFL and all Asic miners are fucking up bitcoin. Prices will drop I estimate or diff will shoot so fast that asics will be like GPU's and it won't take as long as it did with GPU's. This will be exponential even as it relates to time.
I can see asics will be the only thing on here and it will be the same profit as with GPU's but think of it as ever dumb fuck with a easy to run GPU farm. Like I said I'll sit this one out.
If you don't have your asic by now I am afraid you have missed the bus!!!!
That was 9 months back dumbass.
Yeah. Minirigs and Singles orders are 9 months old, too... Guess they're buried with the ancient truth, now, poor things. 
Sorry, not a lie. We did not have any plans to raise the prices at that time. However, in light of our increased costs due to the power usage, we were forced to raise the price.
Is that for real ?Next you're going to tell people who ordered minirigs that the power usage increase makes it impossible, after all?
So you can tell anything today, and tomorrow...
"Ooooh, look, the context have changed, so yesterday's truth is over, sorry. But I did not lie, since it was true yesterday."
You're very good, Josh, very, very good.
The Avalon maybe? Oh yeah, that stayed unchanged, I mean, it was ripped of it's power supply, and went up 5 times it's original pricing wasn't it?
But Avalon is DELIVERING 66+Ghash while BFL still has PRE-ORDER for their 50Ghash unit after 1 year of development
Avalon's epeen>>>> BFL's epeen
Tick tock
Boooooooringgggg...Na I'll sit this one out and watch. To risky
It's quite sad to watch how hard you defend BFL, It's almost like you are basically saying your'e too far in to turn back. You have convinced you're self that this fairytale is true and no one, absolutely no one is going to convince you other wise.
Like I said before I'm out and BFL is just to risky.
Like come on here are my choices
1) Give my money to a liar or criminal, depending on who we are talking about.
2) Give my money to a company that can't get their act together. Fails in FPGA and worse in Asics
3) If they do get their act together and they are not scammers and get the unit quick enough maybe just maybe I can get 2, maybe 3 months of ROI possibly 4 months.
Na I see a long shot and I'll let others go ahead. I still have all my money and my dignity. Besides there are more opportunities in the market with better odds then BFL.
Poor is not what I am.
Yeah, 300 minus the missing ones from batch one, slowly some batch 2 dripping in. Batch 3, the $8800 ones, hahahaha. Say it again, how a $2499 single won't have a roi, but the $8800 avalon you will get someday, will?
How many jally's did BFL shipped?
I don't even want to start with the chip amounts that each company has sold...
Chip amounts don't mean shit, sold GH does, so 300+600+600(?) x 66GH/unit = 99TH for Avalon,
For Bfl it is easier to count the chips and multiply by 4(GH) or 3, because sold units are unknown, so 70k chips x 4GH/chip = 280TH or 70k x 3GH/chip = 210TH,
Fill in what you expect in GH or TH for the loose chips on top of that for Avalon. BFL will probably sell the same TH on top as those 70k chips, as more units and loose chips. If you think Avalon will do better, whoopee, big deal. I think even my next units will be in my hands before Avalon's or BFL's loose sold chips will be build on boards.
So far everybody seems to be waiting, whether it is for their Avalons or their BFL units, same boat, different directions, I choose BFL.
Have a nice evening.
Yeah, 300 minus the missing ones from batch one, slowly some batch 2 dripping in. Batch 3, the $8800 ones, hahahaha. Say it again, how a $2499 single won't have a roi, but the $8800 avalon you will get someday, will?
How many jally's did BFL shipped?
I don't even want to start with the chip amounts that each company has sold...
That was 9 months back dumbass.
Yeah. Minirigs and Singles orders are 9 months old, too... Guess they're buried with the ancient truth, now, poor things. Sorry, not a lie. We did not have any plans to raise the prices at that time. However, in light of our increased costs due to the power usage, we were forced to raise the price.
Is that for real ?Next you're going to tell people who ordered minirigs that the power usage increase makes it impossible, after all?
So you can tell anything today, and tomorrow...
"Ooooh, look, the context have changed, so yesterday's truth is over, sorry. But I did not lie, since it was true yesterday."
You're very good, Josh, very, very good.
The Avalon maybe? Oh yeah, that stayed unchanged, I mean, it was ripped of it's power supply, and went up 5 times it's original pricing wasn't it?
But Avalon is DELIVERING 66+Ghash while BFL still has PRE-ORDER for their 50Ghash unit after 1 year of development
Avalon's epeen>>>> BFL's epeen
Tick tock
Boooooooringgggg... Sorry, not a lie. We did not have any plans to raise the prices at that time. However, in light of our increased costs due to the power usage, we were forced to raise the price.
Is that for real ?
Next you're going to tell people who ordered minirigs that the power usage increase makes it impossible, after all?
So you can tell anything today, and tomorrow...
"Ooooh, look, the context have changed, so yesterday's truth is over, sorry. But I did not lie, since it was true yesterday."
You're very good, Josh, very, very good.
The Avalon maybe? Oh yeah, that stayed unchanged, I mean, it was ripped of it's power supply, and went up 5 times it's original pricing wasn't it?
Sorry, not a lie. We did not have any plans to raise the prices at that time. However, in light of our increased costs due to the power usage, we were forced to raise the price.
Is that for real ?
Next you're going to tell people who ordered minirigs that the power usage increase makes it impossible, after all?
So you can tell anything today, and tomorrow...
"Ooooh, look, the context have changed, so yesterday's truth is over, sorry. But I did not lie, since it was true yesterday."
You're very good, Josh, very, very good.
The Avalon maybe? Oh yeah, that stayed unchanged, I mean, it was ripped of it's power supply, and went up 5 times it's original pricing wasn't it?
But Avalon is DELIVERING 66+Ghash while BFL still has PRE-ORDER for their 50Ghash unit after 1 year of development
Avalon's epeen>>>> BFL's epeen
That was 9 months back dumbass.
Yeah. Minirigs and Singles orders are 9 months old, too... Guess they're buried with the ancient truth, now, poor things. Sorry, not a lie. We did not have any plans to raise the prices at that time. However, in light of our increased costs due to the power usage, we were forced to raise the price.
Is that for real ?
Next you're going to tell people who ordered minirigs that the power usage increase makes it impossible, after all?
So you can tell anything today, and tomorrow...
"Ooooh, look, the context have changed, so yesterday's truth is over, sorry. But I did not lie, since it was true yesterday."
You're very good, Josh, very, very good.
The Avalon maybe? Oh yeah, that stayed unchanged, I mean, it was ripped of it's power supply, and went up 5 times it's original pricing wasn't it?
Always amazes me the energy and time people have rip on others. Especially those that don't have any skin in the game.
Great use of time to better ourselves.
Great use of time to better ourselves.
Sorry, not a lie. We did not have any plans to raise the prices at that time. However, in light of our increased costs due to the power usage, we were forced to raise the price.
Is that for real ?
Next you're going to tell people who ordered minirigs that the power usage increase makes it impossible, after all?
So you can tell anything today, and tomorrow...
"Ooooh, look, the context have changed, so yesterday's truth is over, sorry. But I did not lie, since it was true yesterday."
You're very good, Josh, very, very good.
Awesome. You've been so thoroughly shown to be a liar that, quite literally, you are only able to come back with the timing of my post. That is your only defense. I guess we're done here.
Tick Tock the clock don't stop...Sure doesn't! And seems Jaly's are flying out faster and faster... OOOhhh, we're almost to my order date!!!
Can't wait to (finally) start mining big(ger)-time. Patience truly is a virtue, that I am very proud to possess.
Good job BFL following in the very footsteps of Satoshi -- delivering something to humanity that has not been delivered before.
Have fun with it for a few months, they will be useless by winter
OH tHX for teh newz; I surely won't have done a damn thing to expand my operation with all the coin i'll have mined in that timespan!!
Geez, i have an idea, expand your operation with the measly amount of bitcoins you mine the jala's in a couple months to buy MORE JALAS, if you don;t mind waiting another year PAHAHAHA
I actually did mind waiting a year -- but I also completely expected it. I'll probably expand with mostly Erupters. Depending on how awesome BFL's product turns out to be, I'll likely order from them again. The wait time the second time around will likely not be nearly as long, since most of that wait time was them actually figuring out how to implement the device / engineer it to reach power spec and so forth. The hard part is done.
Judging by BFL ethics they would deliver to you before the enormous back log that have been waiting for almost a year. Good luck.
or
Did I misunderstood that you're buying from a competitor instead. Not sure
Awesome. You've been so thoroughly shown to be a liar that, quite literally, you are only able to come back with the timing of my post. That is your only defense. I guess we're done here.
Tick Tock the clock don't stop...Sure doesn't! And seems Jaly's are flying out faster and faster... OOOhhh, we're almost to my order date!!!
Can't wait to (finally) start mining big(ger)-time. Patience truly is a virtue, that I am very proud to possess.
Good job BFL following in the very footsteps of Satoshi -- delivering something to humanity that has not been delivered before.
Have fun with it for a few months, they will be useless by winter
OH tHX for teh newz; I surely won't have done a damn thing to expand my operation with all the coin i'll have mined in that timespan!!
Geez, i have an idea, expand your operation with the measly amount of bitcoins you mine the jala's in a couple months to buy MORE JALAS, if you don;t mind waiting another year PAHAHAHA
I actually did mind waiting a year -- but I also completely expected it. I'll probably expand with mostly Erupters. Depending on how awesome BFL's product turns out to be, I'll likely order from them again. The wait time the second time around will likely not be nearly as long, since most of that wait time was them actually figuring out how to implement the device / engineer it to reach power spec and so forth. The hard part is done.
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