Topic: Operation Shitcoin Cleanout and Clean Up Has Begun- Join the Revolution- Re-open - page 44. (Read 176878 times)

add utc to the shitcoins copy of others.. premine dev already bought his scrypt miners with the startup funds, modderated forums same idea as the better drk

If it goes that way - it might - the licensed bureaucrats are going to have an interesting time...

Just consider what "do your own due diligence" and "investigate before you invest" means here. I'm used to DYODD in the stock market, which means plowing through financial statements at a minimum. But here, it means plowing through this forum and - if you're serious - figuring out the nuts and bolts of the crypto coin you've plopped your money into. Consequently, I find myself plowing through bitcoinj and dogecoinj, and comparing the two. I'm doin' my own due diligence, all right.

Also, consider what an "investment" in an alt entails. If you're in this game over and above a nice momentum-trade punt, you're hoping that your cyber will rise in price because of added demand for it. Other than a pump, which is strictly the turf of the momentum-trade pumpers, how does the demand increase?

That's right: through people buying it for use, or at least buying it in the hope that others will adopt it. Which leads to the inevitable question: why should they? And, question #2 - especially relevant for a cyber like Quark - why aren't they?

The crapcoins are an inevitable product of an open-source world. But so is pitching in, in any way you can. Open source = zero barriers to entry. Yes, many kick-ins are minor and clonecoins are all over the place, but the very nature of open-source means that someone can come along with a real technical innovation that'll spread like a proverbial wildfire. Or a marketing innovation, or an end-user innovation, or...

In order to be effective, bureaucracies need a stable industry structure and a stable infrastructure: their rules have to have a half-life of decades. That's workable for the stock market because the investment industry's a lot like a car, a washing machine or an oven. There've been lots of innovations within the form, but someone from 1930 could figure out how to use the 2014 versions of those machines with only a little tutoring. Just as an investor from 1930 could puzzle his way through the stock market of today with only a few formal tutorials on what's changed. He could still pick up his phone and call a broker to buy and sell - just like he could in 1930. He could also look through annual reports and news releases to decide what to buy - just as he could in 1930. Heck, the Wall Street Journal's still around.

Could you say the same about a Bitcoiner from 2009? Or anyone from 2005?

Yep: if the SEC decides to make cybers a part of their turf, they'll have a very interesting time - once they stop using surface analogies to scratch the surface of this world.... 

on topic much ?

I simply posted that people in the ann subforum tend to troll coins, rather than educate. Whether you feel it's true or not, that's up to you. It's hardly a startling revelation. The point I was making, originally (in a post that didn't even involve you, or bring you up at all) was that I am all for educating people against scams/shitcoins, but rather than troll people, it'd be more effective to state arguments rationally.

I repeated this, because you evidently did not take away that same message (and you asked for an example, so it's on-topic). For some odd reason you act like it was an attack on you -- only way it would be, is if you troll in that subforum under a different name. Beats me if you do or not.

And, again, I meant the comments about your posting style as constructive criticism. I am hardly the first person to comment on your grammar or posting style. Nobody is perfect, but maybe write in paragraphs? Maybe try not to insult people in every other post? One guy above simply asked for an update, and you went into troll mode on him.

no and repeating yourself doesn't make it any more true either..
this topic is not about me so i don't see how your getting anywhere harping on my grammar and picking apart HOW i said what i have said..
the only trolling going on is those of you that are attacking me personally over my views.. like the comment right above mine.

i'm a 14 year old retard on meth with emotional problems ?

ya uhhhhh that is a terribly brilliant and mature retort to what i said previously.

anyway sure i am on meth and i am 14 and i live alone in mom's basement with emotional issues fine it's ALL true you caught me.
BUT does that make what i said invalid ?

Thanks for bumping the topic and attacking me personally again (and avoiding any on-topic reply in the slightest)

and hey if your having that hard of a time with my grammar feel free to ask me to clarify anything i have said.
i can spell it Reeeeaaal slow for the short bus kids
i get the feeling you gets understand what i say though and are just playing dumb and using the grammar attack angle because it's all you can come up with..
you can't seem to invalidate any assertion i have made and you guys refuse too answer any question i have posed etc

Every topic i comment on is not about me guys.. grow up.

I think you misread or misunderstood what I wrote. I said people writing in the ann subforum, speaking out against coins quite often post in a trolling manner. There are plenty of samples there. I didn't say you posted there, as I have no idea if you have.

As for examples:
Pick a random nation coin in the ann subforum  and you'll find someone just screaming scam over and over... it just produces noise. A more rational argument would work a lot better, in my opinion.

I do find it peculiar that anytime someone posts something negative against this group, you say they are scamming someone. I never made a coin, don't particularly think most nation/meme coins are a good idea (and have so), don't go around recommending coins to anyone... so it is a bit difficult for me to scam or cheat anyone.

As for what you have posted, in general, you will probably take this as an insult, although no insult meant --

If you are on amphetamines, you may wish to cut down/stop while posting. A great deal of your posts read like someone who is on something. Many of your posts are sort of a rambling, semi-coherent freeform type of trolling, not bound to any rules of grammar or logic. Yes, you can make coherent points, but they get buried beneath insults. So even though I half expect you to follow up with with one of your trolling types of responses, I hope you reconsider how you write. My first thought when I read one of your posts is that you must be around 14-15 years old, on drugs, and/or have an emotional problem.

Wow this thread has really took off.

answer even one of the questions i asked you.. i am still waiting scammer coward chicken shit
grow some balls lippy little pussy

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@poornamelessme
show me one crazy argument..
any of the ones i posted against scam coins have been very rational and thoughtful i think.
your game and your diversion is not working.. feel free to counter and address any assertion i have made ..if you have the balls that is

the only crazy replies i see is from people like you and memescamscoin who think you have the right to scam people and rip them off.

PS: You don't.

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And i wasn't going to say anything but every time i come back here i see the same dipshit idiots posting...
BUMPING our topic for us and making sure everyone hears what i want them too ..thank you ..i mean your helping spread my message for me
and making yourselves look worse and worse as each page goes by.. a double win lol
ooooooh yeah your sooooooo smart lol
thanks for holding up my soap box for me geniuses  LOLOLOLOL @ YOU

Japan + Gox = Police.. yeah they care about fraud.. nice try though scam coin defender.
and yeah when a coin had no intention of being a currency from day 1 i'd have to say it's classic flash mine pump and dump scam just like Doge coin was planned for..

This is the way people should go.

But there seems to be two problems. First off, the point to this group has little to do with cleaning out shitcoins. Otherwise, the threadstarter wouldn't have made his own shitcoins, supporters wouldn't have made shitcoins, and they would use a rational way of defining what a shitcoin/scam is.

But if we ignore that little fact, there is another problem.

While some people do go to the ann subforum and alert people,  that instead of rationality describing why a coin is scam or bad investment, they go into insane troll mode. They just yell out SCAM over and over. They attack any supporters with crazy arguments, when regular discussion would suffice. Their noise overwhelms real concerns, so I think in many cases people just ignore them.  Rather than educate, they mostly just annoy people.

You are delusional.

No one in law enforcement is going to give a shit about what you call a "scam."  (Creating a coin based on a meme is a scam in your book, right?) 

I can just see it:  "Officer, arrest this man.  He created a coin that didn't add sufficient value to the community!"  LOL.

However, they understand extortion VERY well.

If they come, they will be coming for you and your extortionist buddies.

how would the death pool work?

@dexternax:
Ok, it's rubbish that newbies are to be disregarded, I'm sorry. I don't care about the way software forum qualifies people or when you decided to register,  every opinion is valid. But someone with an opinion to be listened to, is different from sock puppet accounts that are created to make pretend that some views have more support than others. I'm fed up of spam, sock puppets, manipulation. It's hard to know which is which sometimes, specially when their first posts are made in this thread.

However my point still stands; it is abusive to associate legitimate concerns about people being scammed in many ways, to attempts of extorsion just because someone made the post. If you want to bring such serious accusations (by picking one post and generalize it to everyone) which derail the remaining merit this thread still had, I challenge you to back them up.

Edit: if someone is here really concerned about other people, I suggest posting in the [ANN] subforum and alert/educate the ones that invest into IPO's/premine/scams, instead of fueling this flamefest.

@Spoetnik

What say you to my last post?

@Everyone

Please raise your hand if you have ever made BTC from a 'scam' coin, be it blatantly a scam or a coin created for the sole purpose of being dumped on an exchange. I expect to see most of your hands raised, including you Spoetnik. Let me guess, is it different this time around because it isn't Shake or Hazard the Internet Celebrity running the show?

buckle up.. it's coming

http://www.washingtonpost.com/news/morning-mix/wp/2014/03/20/sec-gets-on-the-bitcoin-investigation-bandwagon/?tid=hpModule_a2e19bf4-86a3-11e2-9d71-f0feafdd1394

further more had you scam defenders been smart you could avoided the wrath of the community..
now you pissed us all off and the US gov so you have two enemies now plus all banks and payment processors like Paypal on earth pissed off at you lol
good job.. ya your smart lol ..turning allies and your own users into enemies is brilliant strategy smart guys lol

actually BCX posted the idea i think many pages back so credits to him

if a Free Market is what you want then a free market is what your going to get everyone.
if it's ok for you to post any clone coin pyramid scam no matter how scammy and no matter how obvious the premine and pump and dump intentions
then why shouldn't we have the FREE MARKET option / right of taking down some of these clones that are masked and paraded around as a so called "currency"
It's like hypocrites with Mt. Gox saying they want NO regulation etc but when their coins get taken they cried for the cops asap ..hypocrite morons caught in their bs.

This is what the SEC is for, if you want regulation then go cry to Uncle Sam to do it to save Grandma. I personally don't want any form of regulation but if we're going to have it, better an army of licensed bureaucrats than a bunch of neckbeard monkeys sitting in front of their computer wearing a Guy Fawkes mask.

that does not solve anything there is still a wide range of negative effects..

scam coins make us all look bad and it makes bitcoin itself look bad and worth less too i think.

would you say that about elderly people being scammed ? they are vulnerable.. do you just say well fuck em who cares about em ?
as long as I MAKE MONEY i don't give a fuck who gets scammer or ripped off
and people who scam the elderly often get caught and face criminal punishment so why shouldn't coin scammers ?

try having a shred of decency maybe and think of others and not just your own selfish greed .

If this went through then im sure it will turn a lot of people off from crypto currency seeing as a group of basement dwellers can take down a coin making everyone lose money. This whole "project" will do more harm then good.

I honestly dont understand why yall hate altcoins so much. No one is forcing you to use them so why bother? Let others lose money,its their money so they can spend it however they like. I only see you guys doing this just for the lulz which is pretty shitty. Stay out of the altcoin section if you hate them so much.