Topic: ᴥᵜᴥ Oshi.io .ᴥᵜᴥ. A different online casino! .ᴥᵜᴥ. Choose your own bonus ᴥᵜᴥ - page 6. (Read 14401 times)

Where do I deny receiving affiliate commissions from customer losses?

No idea what whitewash about commodity trading means, but it is your brain wash theory that affiliate commissions are trading and not mine!


Yes, because the Curacao usage rights agreements have no legal basis and players will not receive any help if they will have an issue, I feel the necessity to offer FortuneJack with consumer protection service inclusive.

Only a dumbass would play at your casino without any help whatsoever while he can play with consumer protection service inclusive!

If receiving affiliate commissions from losses is shameful, what is it to receive the losses from players as a casino operator?

Are you able to quote my lies?

Nick original comment: You deny you make money from customer losses and you hang onto this whitewash about commodity trading?!!
Gameprotect reply : Where do I deny receiving affiliate commissions from customer losses?
Nick reply : Until I pointed this out, you did not make any mention of being an affiliate. You were prepared to conceal by omission.


Game protect reply :  No idea what whitewash about commodity trading means, but it is your brain wash theory that affiliate commissions are trading and not mine!
Nick reply: stop trying obfuscate and if you don't know what that means, consult a dictionary.  In respect to the definition of a trading company, I use this: https://www.gov.uk/guidance/corporation-tax-trading-and-non-trading

Nick original comment: You claim that the Curaçao licence is a scam and yet you have an affiliate relationship with FortuneJack, a Curaçao licensed operator! 
This is your affiliate link https://tracker-pm2.fortunejackpartners.com/link?btag=1671221_52382
So you're lying on these forums purely to generate profit from customer losses. That is shameful.

Game protect reply :  Yes, because the Curacao usage rights agreements have no legal basis and players will not receive any help if they will have an issue, I feel the necessity to offer FortuneJack with consumer protection service inclusive.

Nick reply: You're saying that your online gaming consumer protection service somehow protects consumers. Where is your proof that you actually help consumers?
And on your website, you say there is no cost to an operator to register for this consumer protection service, so what are the qualifiers for an operator to register here?


Game protect reply :  Only a dumbass would play at your casino without any help whatsoever while he can play with consumer protection service inclusive!
If receiving affiliate commissions from losses is shameful, what is it to receive the losses from players as a casino operator?
Are you able to quote my lies?

Nick reply: as a casino operator trade as a business because we have a 2.5% house edge. And yes, we make profit from consumer losses. But on a similar vein, we are a successful niche operator because we care about our reputation, we pay promptly and do our best to offer a good service. However game protect, I don't see any evidence of you genuinely offering a good service to consumers. All I see is you trolling casino operators on these forums to drum up new business.

and does the word 'inclusive' mean in this context? And am I able to quote your lies, which lies are you specifically talking about? Because as far as I can see you whitewash and lie constantly by making vague unfounded accusations which mislead readers and misrepresent the true facts.

Nick final comment: Once again, this is another nonsense/badly written attempt at obfuscation from you Gameprotect. But then, that's what you do... https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=1535816.695 (post slamming Fortune Jack) You liberally use the word scam and in my view that's what you actually are.

Finally, I'm disappointed that you keep hijacking this thread. And to any reader looking at this, once again, please report this person to the moderators so he can be banned from these forums. These sorts of conversations do not help uncover the truth. The only beneficiary is this person and his affiliate website.

Stop trying to deceive readers. You are an affiliate and you make your money through customer losses.

You deny you make money from customer losses and you hang onto this whitewash about commodity trading?!!
You claim that the Curaçao licence is a scam and yet you have an affiliate relationship with FortuneJack, a Curaçao licensed operator! 

This is your affiliate link https://tracker-pm2.fortunejackpartners.com/link?btag=1671221_52382

So you're lying on these forums purely to generate profit from customer losses. That is shameful.

Anyhow, saddens me me that you have hijacked this forum thread for your own self-promotion. Sadly, your logic and English is so poor that you discredit yourself every time you post here.
I feel very sorry for you, because clearly you've exposed your hypocrisy and discredited yourself.

Once again, if you're a reader please report this person so they can be banned from these forums.

This is surely one of the biggest brain wash shit you have stated so far!

Definition trading: The act or process of buying, selling, or exchanging commodities

The bitcointalk forum has a Trading Discussion thread to disprove your brain wash nonsense!

As everyone can see, they discuss about buying low and selling high to make a trade profit and do not speak about receiving affiliate commissions as a type of trading!

How do you know that Game Protect is not regularly flooded with scam reports?

Are you too stupid to read in the comment sections here https://game-protect.com/curacao-license-scam/ and here https://game-protect.com/curacao-licensing-scam/ ?

Did you hack our email and web server and secretly installed an api that delivers the number of support tickets opened and emails received?

Who tries to act like a lawyer? Game Protect surely not!

Game Protect is a platform that offers to Qualify free or for a donation for consumer protection service, collects info and proof of scams and organizes legal action and inform about Online gaming scams.

Nice brain wash story again, but the only thing Game Protect does not is to act like a lawyer!

Game protect comment : Too much nonsense at once, so I will reply step by step:

Nick reply: if anyone reads my responses, they'll know I put time and effort into being concise and understandable. My responses are not nonsense.

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Nick original comment : I notice that game protect has: Trust: -16: -4 / +0 Warning: Trade with extreme caution!

Game Protect questions: What does it mean trust -16? Why does it say trade with extreme caution? What will happen if you trade with Game Protect? Whatever this means, because Game Protect does not trade!

Nick reply: by definition any business that has revenues is trading. Game protect is an affiliate. It uses affiliate tracking links like this one: https://record.bettingpartners.com/_N8fI1aTNMPCX6ocCAyheuWNd7ZgqdRLk/1/
anyone who registers via this person's website and loses money will generate revenue for this person. Game protect trades and makes money from customer losses.

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Nick reply: this sentence once again doesn't make any sense. Game protect does trade through his affiliate website where he promotes various crypto operators.[/quote]
Definition trading: The act or process of buying, selling, or exchanging commodities

Game protect reply: As everyone can read on the Game Protect website, we neither buy nor sell nor exchange commodities.

Nick reply: talking about commodities is misinformation and misdirection for the reader. You are an affiliate and you have a trading affiliate business.

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Game protect comment: But let us assume some members of the bitcointalk forum follow your brain wash theory, I still do not get why they should "trade" with extreme caution?
Nick reply: once again you do not use English correctly. You talk about a brain wash theory. By definition brainwashing is "to make someone believe something by repeatedly telling them that it is true and preventing any other information from reaching them" AND definition of theory is "a formal statement of the rules on which a subject of study is based or of ideas that are suggested to explain a fact or event or, more generally, an opinion or explanation"
So what you're asserting is that I forcibly and repeatedly tell readers what I'm saying is true in a way that is theoretical...?

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Game protect comment: Because if they sign up with any game-protect.com/qualify-free/  operator, they are not at risk at all compared to signing up directly?
Nick comment: you are an affiliate is in your interests to drive traffic and signups through your website so you can get revenue from customers that lose money. Based on my observations of your website, your information is so poorly put together, it is untrustworthy. In my view, trustworthy recommendations come forums like this where players have experienced certain brands and recommend them, or there are enough genuine reviews from players for the reader to feel confident about joining a particular brand. Your website does not have any of this.

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Game protect comment: Can you please explain the risk part when signing up through Game Protect, while this includes consumer protection service?
Nick comment: based on my review of your website, you don't have a structured arbitration service. Nor have you produced any evidence of any legal action against an operator. Until you demonstrate your legitimacy, you are no more than an untrustworthy affiliate hustling for business.

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Nick reply: I'm happy to say he doesn't rank very well on Google, but is doing his best by running stories about 'scam' operators. If you know about SEO, you'll know that content that's controversial gets higher click through rates and therefore is more likely to rank[/quote]

game protect comment: I can not follow what you are saying here, but our scam articles are usually on the first page and within the first entries. So if everyone would simply put "casino + scam" into google prior to signing up, then a lot of damage could have been already avoided! Examples: duckdice scam , pornhub casino scam , betcoin scam  

Nick reply: your affiliate marketing strategy is to put out misleading information about operators, so readers mistakenly trust you to join operators you suggest, generating revenue on their losses through your affiliate revenue share commission. When people read through your reviews, obvious they are unfounded and badly thought out.

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Once again, as a reader, you may find this amusing but remember this person trolls misdirects and misinforms for profit. If you are a good citizen of Bitcointalk and you want to protect others from this predator, please report 'game protect'.

thanks
Nick

Too much nonsense at once, so I will reply step by step:

Definition trading: The act or process of buying, selling, or exchanging commodities

As everyone can read on the Game Protect website, we neither buy nor sell nor exchange commodities.

But let us assume some members of the bitcointalk forum follow your brain wash theory, I still do not get why they should "trade" with extreme caution?

Because if they sign up with any Qualify free operator, they are not at risk at all compared to signing up directly?

Can you please explain the risk part when signing up through Game Protect, while this includes consumer protection service?


I can not follow what you are saying here, but our scam articles are usually on the first page and within the first entries. So if everyone would simply put "casino + scam" into google prior to signing up, then a lot of damage could have been already avoided!

Examples: duckdice scam , pornhub casino scam , betcoin scam  

I don't particularly want to spend an hour replying to this misleading post. But, I will add some comments.

Most importantly, this person propagates misinformation in order to attract attention and draw users to his website. He claims to be some kind of arbitration/truth giver, but time and time again when you analyse what this person is saying, it turns out to be a mixture of trolling and misguidance. For any reader who agrees with me, please report this person to the moderator.

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Game protect reply: Brain washer Oshi on the road again?

Nick: once again this person makes a misleading comment. Definition of a brain washer is "to make someone believe something by repeatedly telling them that it is true and preventing any other information from reaching them" which ironically is more suitable for Mr game protect.

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Nick original comment: As ever game protect does is best to be provocative without actually using concise language. The definition for a scam is "an illegal plan for making money, especially one that involves tricking people" So where is the 'scam' part of a Curaçao licence? The reality is there is none.

Game protect reply: False and misleading claiming to operate under the license issued to a foreign company is the scam part! Yes, to Antillephone N.V., but neither to Direx N.V. nor to Oshi.io! Wait, the anonymous website curacao-egaming state nonsense is very transparent?

Nick: this sentence doesn't make any sense. There's nothing false about offshore businesses. If you are aware of cross-border taxation, you'll know Google, Amazon, many other large businesses do the same thing where they use holding companies in order to optimise tax exposure. For example Google's main European offices are in Dublin occurs Ireland has 10% corporation tax, rather than the 19% the UK charge.

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Nick original comment : I notice that game protect has: Trust: -16: -4 / +0 Warning: Trade with extreme caution![/quote] What does it mean trust -16?

Game protect reply: Why does it say trade with extreme caution? What will happen if you trade with Game Protect? Whatever this means, because Game Protect does not trade!

Nick reply: this sentence once again doesn't make any sense. Game protect does trade through his affiliate website where he promotes various crypto operators. I'm happy to say he doesn't rank very well on Google, but is doing his best by running stories about 'scam' operators. If you know about SEO, you'll know that content that's controversial gets higher click through rates and therefore is more likely to rank

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Nick original comment For what it's worth I've reported this person to the moderators several times and disappointingly the moderators haven't removed this unhelpful person from these forums.[/quote]Do you think your brain wash theories are more helpful for this forum than consumer protection service?

Game protect reply: What did you report about Game Protect?

Nick reply: you are a Troll who makes vague and misleading accusations in order to get attention and thus traffic to your affiliate website. I've also said that you damage the reputation and trust in these forums because you are patiently misleading people. This forum would be better without you.

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Nick original comment:  For anyone reading, Curaçao licences are relatively ineffective when it comes to customer arbitration. However, it's forums like this and sites with arbitration services like latest casino bonuses or AskGamblers that do a great job of guiding customers away from rogue casinos.

Game protect reply: If casino bonuses and gamblers do such a great job, why is Game Protect habitually flooded with scam reports about Curacao based casinos?

Nick reply: I've read through your website and you're not 'habitually flooded' with scam reports. And I just want pause for a second and say that your use of English is inappropriate here. If something is habitual, it's because people make a habit of doing something. If something is flooded, it means it's overrun by something. You are not flooded by habit. And once again, you must use the term scam.
My main point: if you're trying to act like a lawyer, use English concisely.

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Nick original comment There's one other thing to bear in mind with rogue casinos... It costs a lot of money to acquire customers. Since the cost of acquiring a customer so high, operators have to factor in good retention i.e. customers sticking around over a long period of time.[/quote]The license fees are high and the customer acquiring costs are also high and these circumstances force many casinos to scam its customers either hidden or obviously!
 A rogue casino will work in a very short-term way, withholding funds and pressing customers into gambling more than they might want. Upshot: customers become unhappy, they leave and they put out bad reviews about that brand. The rogue casino gets put on 'rogue lists' , has bad reviews and players avoid that brand, pushing up the cost of acquisition and ultimately making the operator bankrupt because it can't get customers in for the right money

Game protect reply: Do you want to say a 'rogue list' is all we need to prevent scams?

Nick reply: once again this is a misleading reply that suggests I agree with the idea of a 'rogue list'. What I agree with are arbitration services managed by knowledgeable people who can make fair judgements. On looking at this persons website, I don't see any real evidence of a proper arbitration service. I just see a lot of self-promotion and misdirection.

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Nick original comment: So yes, it would be better if Curaçao had a more invasive policy around player welfare, but the Internet does a good job of steering customers to legitimate operators who do care about their customers.


Game protect reply:  Can not follow you here as there are still countless of scam reports!

Nick reply: once again, the sentence doesn't make any sense.

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Nick original comment: Ultimately all of this leads back to a simple thing: do your research on forums like this.

Game protect reply:  Totally agree and several casinos operating under Direx N.V. already scammed its customers!

Nick reply: I despair... This person is relentless and should not be allowed in these forums. This is a misleading comment that is poorly structured and intended to be misinformation. This person makes an accusation about
Direx N.V. Intentionally defrauding customers (the definition of a scam is intentional fraud) but as ever there are no specifics.

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Game protect reply:   And finally, if you decide to play at a Curacao based casino, simply register your accounts with Game Protect. Because in such cases legal action to enforce your claim is cost free inclusive. But when you register directly, you have to spend your money and time if you want to enforce your claim!

Nick reply: I challenge you to prove you actually take legal action against operators. I genuinely believe you are a scam, because nothing you say is validated. You're just trying to misinform and misdirect users to build trust in this brand of yours, so you can accrue affiliate revenue share/commissions. I'm very disappointed that the moderators have not barred you yet.

For anyone reading, you may think this back-and-forth is entertaining. But there will be readers who genuinely believe this person and will either make bad decisions because of it or end up disappointed.

Like I say, if people fall for this 'snake oil', Bitcointalk loses credibility. This is not 4chan.

If you are a good citizen of this forum please report 'game protect' to the moderator.

Thanks
Nick

Brain washer Oshi on the road again?

False and misleading claiming to operate under the license issued to a foreign company is the scam part!


Yes, to Antillephone N.V., but neither to Direx N.V. nor to Oshi.io!


Wait, the anonymous website curacao-egaming state nonsense is very transparent?


What does it mean trust -16?

Why does it say trade with extreme caution? What will happen if you trade with Game Protect? Whatever this means, because Game Protect does not trade!


Please post the a lot here, because I can not follow it?


Do you think your brain wash theories are more helpful for this forum than consumer protection service?

What did you report about Game Protect?


If casino bonuses and gamblers do such a great job, why is Game Protect habitually flooded with scam reports about Curacao based casinos?


The license fees are high and the customer acquiring costs are also high and these circumstances force many casinos to scam its customers either hidden or obviously!
 

Do you want to say a 'rogue list' is all we need to prevent scams?


Can not follow you here as there are still countless of scam reports!


Totally agree and several casinos operating under Direx N.V. already scammed its customers!

And finally, if you decide to play at a Curacao based casino, simply register your accounts with Game Protect. Because in such cases legal action to enforce your claim is cost free inclusive. But when you register directly, you have to spend your money and time if you want to enforce your claim!

thanks for weighing in on this Easternbloc and thank you for your well thought out and constructive comments.

As ever game protect does is best to be provocative without actually using concise language.
The definition for a scam is "an illegal plan for making money, especially one that involves tricking people"

So where is the 'scam' part of a Curaçao licence? The reality is there is none. A government has issued a gambling licence. They are very transparent about the scope of the license:
- https://www.curacao-egaming.com/#page_id-5
- https://calvinayre.com/regulators/curacao/

It's ironic that Easterm block says "I assume I will be on your stalker list" , because I feel like I've been on that stalker list for a while.

I notice that game protect has:
Trust: -16: -4 / +0
Warning: Trade with extreme caution!

Which says a lot. For what it's worth I've reported this person to the moderators several times and disappointingly the moderators haven't removed this unhelpful person from these forums.

For anyone reading, Curaçao licences are relatively ineffective when it comes to customer arbitration. However, it's forums like this and sites with arbitration services like latest casino bonuses or AskGamblers that do a great job of guiding customers away from rogue casinos.

There's one other thing to bear in mind with rogue casinos... It costs a lot of money to acquire customers. Since the cost of acquiring a customer so high, operators have to factor in good retention i.e. customers sticking around over a long period of time.

A rogue casino will work in a very short-term way, withholding funds and pressing customers into gambling more than they might want. Upshot: customers become unhappy, they leave and they put out bad reviews about that brand. The rogue casino gets put on 'rogue lists' , has bad reviews and players avoid that brand, pushing up the cost of acquisition and ultimately making the operator bankrupt because it can't get customers in for the right money.

So yes, it would be better if Curaçao had a more invasive policy around player welfare, but the Internet does a good job of steering customers to legitimate operators who do care about their customers.

Ultimately all of this leads back to a simple thing: do your research on forums like this.

Game Protect informs about Curacao licensing scam operators. Licensing scam means that there is no licensing or gaming authority and that the sub-license has no legal basis! In case of a dispute, the victim has to enforce his claim through legal channels and can not expect any help from the licensor.

Game Protect does not say that Curacao licensing scam operators are also automatically customer scam operators. For the publicly proven scams and risky operators we have a separate Warnings list! Rizk.com and bet365 is not on it.

I assume I will be on your stalker list for piping up but I think you are very black and white with your blanket assumption that holding an X or Y Curacao sub-license immediately touts that company as a “scam”. You have named HUGE and reputable brands on your site with little actual research going on. You’ve just lumped everyone together. For example Rizk.com is about as reputable as gaming sites could get. It is a brand under the Maltese licensed GIG company which is on the Swedish stock exchange. I think it’s right to have a devils advocate sitting on the fence, as I agree, there are scams and shoddiness galore regarding crypto but I would suggest you need to analyse each brand on a case by case basis. Curacao is necessity for getting licensed for certain casino providers. Curacao it’s self should do MUCH more to ensure brands are adhering to their regulations but sometimes to operate in grey markets Curacao is the only choice for many brands. You’ve even named bet365 in you’re list so how can people take it seriously?

I was wondering when you would resurface.

Whatever you do, you are still on the Curacao licensing scam operators list!

Here I am! And I'm looking forward to re-engaging in whatever way I can.

As far as new stuff on Oshi goes, it's all been incremental i.e. in the last six months we've had five or six new game providers, along with a few hundred new games. The other big improvements have been on the backend. Being a crypto casino, we've had this ongoing issue with denial of service attacks and so on. We've strengthened our systems on that front and were doing another code re-factoring project so we can Max out on our game library.

To give you some context on the scale of our game library... For every game, there is a unique game instance per currency. So if there is a game i.e. 'fruit Zen' , they will be eight instances of that game i.e. one per currency. And sometimes there will also be a mobile only instance of a game (something that Netent do occasionally) . Upshot: we have 25776 unique game instances on our system.

At the moment were holding back a few new game providers, just because we don't want to overload the system too much and keep page speed high. Anyhow that should be done fairly shortly.

Some of the critical categorisation got a bit messy, so we did a big project to tidy that up i.e. re-categorising 25,000 games. We still have to update some video thumbnails (mouse over a game and a six second video plays) and some of the more granular categorisation needs updating.

Overall, if I were to describe Oshi's story over the last six months I would say it was good, then bad, then good. The bad patch was when Bitcoin transaction costs were way too high and it affected a lot of the smaller players. Now that transaction costs are sensible again, we've seen a huge influx of smaller players, so it's reassuring the people like Oshi.

Welcome back after long inactivity which is not really good for your site if you ask me. Good to know that there are some improvements although I do not really sure what improvements are they? Will check it later to see what is new at oshi.
Looking at the number of the games in BTC, seems that it is one of the improvements (adding more new games) as I did not see some of them last time I visited your site.
One important thing, will you keep being active here or you will go for long time again as what you did?

It's been a while...

Last time I posted here, I said that I would do an investigation into inconsistent cash out times. In general I'm happy to say we've had a large number of process improvements, along with team reorganisation which is meant that those people working with Oshi know what they're doing.

Upshot is that number of support issues around cash at times have drop massively. Of course, support issues around cash at times will never go away, but it's much better than before. I'm also seeing a big uplift in new players and with players sticking around... I guess that's also a good sign.

Just some other updates on Oshi. The 'build your bonus' feature is working well and we did some research on the number of games we've now got...

For Bitcoin, we have 904 games
Approximate number of games by provider in BTC:
Endorphina: 46
Amatic: 60
Softswiss: 41
Quickfire: 0
Ezugi: 15
Netent: 0
iSoftbet: 159
BSG: 211
Habanero: 122
MrSlotty: 43
Pragmatic: 59
Booming: 46
Belatra: 18
EGT: 0
Thunderkick: 0
Nextgen: 0
Amaya: 0
Ainsworth: 0
ELK: 0
Spinomenal: 85
Yggdrasil: 0

Anyhow, if you got any questions or are interested in Oshi, let me know and I will see if I can set up a unique bonus just for Bitcoin talk...

As you operate illegal without a valid license, all your customers have 100% cashback, because illegal gambling sites are not allowed to take deposits! 

Just to let you all know,

We've launched a VIP program which is based on deposit size and turnover. Depending on which VIP tier you are on, that will determine how much cashback you get.

For more check here :-)

https://oshi.io/vip

I doubt you even have an account at oshi!