Sorry but it seems like you are not seeing the revenue the government will earn from opening the casino, instead you only look at the risk.
The government will prioritize revenue over health that's only an opinion and how can they be so sure if they open they get gamblers flocking the casino, I don't think it will be that imminent. With the daily cases ramping to 600 - 700 and 200 of it are mostly in NCR and that's a gamble to them if they open and new more cases will be added and even if they are strict to it they may not know if these players are. 
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Sorry but it seems like you are not seeing the revenue the government will earn from opening the casino, instead you only look at the risk.
As you can see, that 132,000 employees are depending on casino, with that number of employees, it's also easy to determine how much PAGCOR is contributing to the economy, remember this is our own casino, the profit goes directly to the government which they can use to help people affected by the pandemic, especially those who are very poor or the poorest among the poor.
I know the government's revenue from gambling is big, but that doesn't mean they can use it as a reason to reopen the casino. Maybe the government can think of another solution for the employees because I don't think that all employees can still go back to their old jobs. Besides that, it needs more concern from the government to help people affected COVID-19, but if there is no other way to get the revenue than to reopen the casino, then maybe that is the only way solution. If opening the casino is the solution, the government must manage everything before it's reopened, including protecting the gamblers who visit on every gambling places. As you can see, that 132,000 employees are depending on casino, with that number of employees, it's also easy to determine how much PAGCOR is contributing to the economy, remember this is our own casino, the profit goes directly to the government which they can use to help people affected by the pandemic, especially those who are very poor or the poorest among the poor.
Fortunately for me, I have all membership cards in the big three (RW, COD, Solaire), however, I'm not interested to gamble because of health risk.
See. Here is one example that even people do have resources or any forms of access, they will not just go to the casino once it opened.
Surely, this mindset is also on other people as well.
That's why casinos are doing a dry run to have an insight on what should they expect once they adopt the new normal system.
I'm in favor of the casino opening. If only others see the situation in the Metro, especially those who hardly hit by the lockdown, they will able to understand how difficult for IATF to approve something.
This will be a gradual process, I don't think all casino's will be open in a day. I think it will be the big one first in Manila for a test and then in other parts of the Philippines. And for the record, according to the protocols they have set, it will be no card/no entry policy. So it's not just everyone could enter and play pre-pandemic. In order of average gamblers, you have to show that you have this so called membership card before you can play. And I'm sure that they will stop accepting new membership during this pandemic to control the crowd. Fortunately for me, I have all membership cards in the big three (RW, COD, Solaire), however, I'm not interested to gamble because of health risk.
What are their measures?
Alcohol and mask and dividers made via acrylic? This is already part of the new normal and even we do see that motorcycle
backriding do even have some divide shields between the rider and the passenger.
Virus spread is unstoppable specially if its airborne and can be transmitted thru objects.
Alcohol and mask and dividers made via acrylic? This is already part of the new normal and even we do see that motorcycle
backriding do even have some divide shields between the rider and the passenger.
Virus spread is unstoppable specially if its airborne and can be transmitted thru objects.
More asymptomatic persons are surely on those essential establishments, not in the casinos. I don't see why should physical casinos be looked at as another reason for spread. It's not that once it was opened, there will be lots of gamblers that will play here, and again even it does, just follow the strict protocol. How it can become useless?
Since we are talking about new normal then facing the risks is part of it. Casinos might not be an essential and necessary establishment to be opened but we are talking about PAGCOR casinos here and it's no secret that PAGCOR plays a big role in the government. Let them squeezed money from those rich ones who aren't totally affected at all during the lockdown.
People will never understand the situation until they experienced being one of those who become unemployed because of the pandemic virus. Once casinos open, thousands of their employees will also come back to work, might be in a skeletal workforce. It's no different at all at those other establishments.
Stay optimistic. It's easy to say that these casinos shouldn't be opened but we must also look at the reasons why should they opened.
I would say that this kind of protocol would be useless. Why? if a certain asymptomatic person able to go inside the venue then
imagine on how they do transmit the virus via chips or even in cards or everything it touches? Its really hard to think
that this situation would really be just resolved out with those kind of protocol but at least we are trying our best but getting
rid of it is almost impossible.
Don't take the image by what you see. imagine on how they do transmit the virus via chips or even in cards or everything it touches? Its really hard to think
that this situation would really be just resolved out with those kind of protocol but at least we are trying our best but getting
rid of it is almost impossible.
Of course, there's still another layer of precautionary measures to be implemented before you can enter the casino.
However, preventing the covid-19 spreading is impossible in some cases thus the risks involve is high making possible the impossible.
Alcohol and mask and dividers made via acrylic? This is already part of the new normal and even we do see that motorcycle
backriding do even have some divide shields between the rider and the passenger.
Virus spread is unstoppable specially if its airborne and can be transmitted thru objects.
I would say that this kind of protocol would be useless. Why? if a certain asymptomatic person able to go inside the venue then
imagine on how they do transmit the virus via chips or even in cards or everything it touches? Its really hard to think
that this situation would really be just resolved out with those kind of protocol but at least we are trying our best but getting
rid of it is almost impossible.
Don't take the image by what you see. imagine on how they do transmit the virus via chips or even in cards or everything it touches? Its really hard to think
that this situation would really be just resolved out with those kind of protocol but at least we are trying our best but getting
rid of it is almost impossible.
Of course, there's still another layer of precautionary measures to be implemented before you can enter the casino.
However, preventing the covid-19 spreading is impossible in some cases thus the risks involve is high making possible the impossible.
A quick update on reopening, PAGCOR chief says landbased casinos are now allowed to conduct dry-runs.
There's probably 99% chance now that they'll reopen by next month.
For those who are still concerned on how health protocols would be observed, take a look at this image:
^ That's from another country but that will most likely be the case here also (with face mask and shield).
I would say that this kind of protocol would be useless. Why? if a certain asymptomatic person able to go inside the venue thenSome casinos outside Manila have been allowed to open. In an interview with Andrea Domingo, Head of PAGCOR. She said that casinos can start holding dry-runs which is a positive sign for the re-opening of the Casino.
Some Poker houses have begun to conduct the rapid tests for the coronavirus.
Some Poker houses have begun to conduct the rapid tests for the coronavirus.
There's probably 99% chance now that they'll reopen by next month.
For those who are still concerned on how health protocols would be observed, take a look at this image:
^ That's from another country but that will most likely be the case here also (with face mask and shield).
imagine on how they do transmit the virus via chips or even in cards or everything it touches? Its really hard to think
that this situation would really be just resolved out with those kind of protocol but at least we are trying our best but getting
rid of it is almost impossible.
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Ahh, yes. NCR is now averaging 200 positive covid-19 cases per day. Source: t.me/phcoronavirus
Philippines still on 700-1000 average cases per day, but the good thing is recoveries average more than 200 per day as well. Even if I highly doubt Metro Manila would be still extended, but still remain as GCQ. I guess Government can reconsider the PAGCOR approval of land-based casinos on some areas in Metro Manila.
Yup. As I've been saying before, our health facilities are way better now compared to two months ago and that can be seen with the increasing no. of recoveries. I'm guessing that the Government already accepted the fact that COVID-19 won't be eliminated anytime soon but they are probably more confident in our healthcare now in handling patients. Ahh, yes. NCR is now averaging 200 positive covid-19 cases per day. Source: t.me/phcoronavirus
Philippines still on 700-1000 average cases per day, but the good thing is recoveries average more than 200 per day as well. Even if I highly doubt Metro Manila would be still extended, but still remain as GCQ. I guess Government can reconsider the PAGCOR approval of land-based casinos on some areas in Metro Manila.
The Government has been very clear from the start that our economy cannot sustain a prolonged lockdown. Slowly opening businesses like land-based casinos is a good start for a slow economic recovery.
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It wont really sustain for too long thats why they do came up into this kind of decision.Its hard but wont have any choice or else it would completely shutdown its economy.
We have seen on how thing goes when other re-open these kind of business and somehow it do works.
There's probably 99% chance now that they'll reopen by next month.
Pretty much, that's it then. We'll about to see some other things going back to "new normal" by the end of the month. For those who are still concerned on how health protocols would be observed, take a look at this image:
^ That's from another country but that will most likely be the case here also (with face mask and shield).
Yup, there is no face glass. ^ That's from another country but that will most likely be the case here also (with face mask and shield).
Either way, it just looks ridiculous and ain't classy for casino.
A quick update on reopening, PAGCOR chief says landbased casinos are now allowed to conduct dry-runs.
The Government has been very clear from the start that our economy cannot sustain a prolonged lockdown. Slowly opening businesses like land-based casinos is a good start for a slow economic recovery.
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Ahh, yes. NCR is now averaging 200 positive covid-19 cases per day. Source: t.me/phcoronavirus
Philippines still on 700-1000 average cases per day, but the good thing is recoveries average more than 200 per day as well. Even if I highly doubt Metro Manila would be still extended, but still remain as GCQ. I guess Government can reconsider the PAGCOR approval of land-based casinos on some areas in Metro Manila.
Yup. As I've been saying before, our health facilities are way better now compared to two months ago and that can be seen with the increasing no. of recoveries. I'm guessing that the Government already accepted the fact that COVID-19 won't be eliminated anytime soon but they are probably more confident in our healthcare now in handling patients. Ahh, yes. NCR is now averaging 200 positive covid-19 cases per day. Source: t.me/phcoronavirus
Philippines still on 700-1000 average cases per day, but the good thing is recoveries average more than 200 per day as well. Even if I highly doubt Metro Manila would be still extended, but still remain as GCQ. I guess Government can reconsider the PAGCOR approval of land-based casinos on some areas in Metro Manila.
The Government has been very clear from the start that our economy cannot sustain a prolonged lockdown. Slowly opening businesses like land-based casinos is a good start for a slow economic recovery.
It might be soon, but for now the number of infected are still increasing here in the Philippines. I know Philippine government still working on that. Hoping for there best response if they allow to reopen the gambling industry or they have to remain it close for the safety of there people.
It was already decided that the opening of casinos will happen. Many countries have already opened back their economies as they're about to see the drought which will affect their countries heavily. Some sporting events were already about to open soon. There's basis why they'll be doing this and let's just hope that most of these establishments that will comeback will adopt the new norm. And they won't be the reason for the addition of infected.
But I hope that I'm wrong with that part and each safety net will be applied by these opening establishments not just for one country but most of the countries that will go back in business together with their gambling sector.
Observing strict protocol and social distancing in all manner. And for sure they will use disinfectant for their machines everyday.
Some land-based casinos outside Manila were already allowed to resume operation.
GCQ in Metro Manila and other areas are expected to end by June 30, 2020. If that won't be extended again, all land-based casinos could be opened by next month.
There are Casinos in Pampanga that have been allowed to operate. Manila might open sooner as PAGCOR is only waiting for IATF.
GCQ in Metro Manila and other areas are expected to end by June 30, 2020. If that won't be extended again, all land-based casinos could be opened by next month.
Ahh, yes. NCR is now averaging 200 positive covid-19 cases per day. Source: t.me/phcoronavirus
Philippines still on 700-1000 average cases per day, but the good thing is recoveries average more than 200 per day as well. Even if I highly doubt Metro Manila would be still extended, but still remain as GCQ. I guess Government can reconsider the PAGCOR approval of land-based casinos on some areas in Metro Manila.
In my opinion as long as running safety protocols properly there is no harm in reopening land-based casinos, anyway if we continue
quarantine the economy will continue to fall.
You have a very good point, I've stated that in my posts above that we need this casino to resume so it will gain revenue. quarantine the economy will continue to fall.
We are talking of a billion pesos industry here, if we won't allow it to operate then we should not complain if the government won't be able to help its citizen in their needs. The issue here is the poor needs support, especially those who were unemployed because of the pandemic, do you think the government are just creating money from thin air to support these sectors?
Our agency like the SSS and DSWD, they provide funds to support those who are in need, that's billions of pesos of expenses from the government side.
As we know the vaccine has not been found, then do not know when this corona virus ends.
Rather than waiting continuously without certainty, it's better to face the corona virus.
Rather than waiting continuously without certainty, it's better to face the corona virus.
It will not be available this year, there's no way we can wait for that.
In my opinion as long as running safety protocols properly there is no harm in reopening land-based casinos, anyway if we continue
quarantine the economy will continue to fall. As we know the vaccine has not been found, then do not know when this corona virus ends.
Rather than waiting continuously without certainty, it's better to face the corona virus.
quarantine the economy will continue to fall. As we know the vaccine has not been found, then do not know when this corona virus ends.
Rather than waiting continuously without certainty, it's better to face the corona virus.
Some land-based casinos outside Manila were already allowed to resume operation.
GCQ in Metro Manila and other areas are expected to end by June 30, 2020. If that won't be extended again, all land-based casinos could be opened by next month.
There are Casinos in Pampanga that have been allowed to operate. Manila might open sooner as PAGCOR is only waiting for IATF.
GCQ in Metro Manila and other areas are expected to end by June 30, 2020. If that won't be extended again, all land-based casinos could be opened by next month.
That's a good news, slowly the economy and I guess instead of limiting businesses to operate, the government has to hire more enforcers of the law to monitor and to ensure that every covid-19 protocol are well observed and followed.
That's for updating us with the latest news.
specially if infected people do increase day by day but at least we are seeing small numbers of deaths gradually.I dont know if this would be effective but
government should always prioritize on crowd-control because these things will surely mess up.
But i am sure that this will be allowed sooner because of the on going GCQ and starting to let life back top normal so more or less it won't take month before this will be awarded to the gambling operators.
It might be soon, but for now the number of infected are still increasing here in the Philippines. I know Philippine government still working on that. Hoping for there best response if they allow to reopen the gambling industry or they have to remain it close for the safety of there people.
It was already decided that the opening of casinos will happen. Many countries have already opened back their economies as they're about to see the drought which will affect their countries heavily. Some sporting events were already about to open soon. There's basis why they'll be doing this and let's just hope that most of these establishments that will comeback will adopt the new norm. And they won't be the reason for the addition of infected.
It might be soon, but for now the number of infected are still increasing here in the Philippines. I know Philippine government still working on that. Hoping for there best response if they allow to reopen the gambling industry or they have to remain it close for the safety of there people.
It was already decided that the opening of casinos will happen. Many countries have already opened back their economies as they're about to see the drought which will affect their countries heavily. Some sporting events were already about to open soon. There's basis why they'll be doing this and let's just hope that most of these establishments that will comeback will adopt the new norm. And they won't be the reason for the addition of infected.
It might be soon, but for now the number of infected are still increasing here in the Philippines. I know Philippine government still working on that. Hoping for there best response if they allow to reopen the gambling industry or they have to remain it close for the safety of there people.
I believe it will be reopen soon, they are just waiting for the right time, there's no government that would survive in this crisis if they will not fully open the economy and give way for big businesses to continue their operation, PAGCOR is making billions and we need that money to fund this very expensive war that we are at now. We will see next month, if the GCQ in Metro Manila will not be extended, then there's a good chance that operation will resume after months of being halted.
If the government can be wise, they will not force the casino to reopen their business, but they will ask the other business to start, especially with the business that related to people's life. That will be better if the other business can contribute to this pandemic because they can also help many people live, and they can start the economy in that country. But if the government still insists on reopening the gambling industry, they need to use the strict protocol to protect people.Sorry but it seems like you are not seeing the revenue the government will earn from opening the casino, instead you only look at the risk.
As you can see, that 132,000 employees are depending on casino, with that number of employees, it's also easy to determine how much PAGCOR is contributing to the economy, remember this is our own casino, the profit goes directly to the government which they can use to help people affected by the pandemic, especially those who are very poor or the poorest among the poor.
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“We’re going to get on with it in June or at the very latest in July,” Domingo said, noting that the reopening of gambling centers in the country would benefit the industry’s 132,000 employees.
source : https://business.mb.com.ph/2020/06/08/casinos-to-reopen-soon-pagcor/
I read the article about this also, it's dated June 8, 2020, don't know if it's the latest news but here's some important information I guess we should know.
source : https://business.mb.com.ph/2020/06/08/casinos-to-reopen-soon-pagcor/
Therefore, if it's not possible to open this month, we can expect them by next month, probably in the 1st week or 2nd week.
I'm really concern about the huge number of employees who lost their job.
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“We’re going to get on with it in June or at the very latest in July,” Domingo said, noting that the reopening of gambling centers in the country would benefit the industry’s 132,000 employees.
source : https://business.mb.com.ph/2020/06/08/casinos-to-reopen-soon-pagcor/
Therefore, if it's not possible to open this month, we can expect them by next month, probably in the 1st week or 2nd week.
I'm really concern about the huge number of employees who lost their job.
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