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I think most Bounty Managers are paid Ethereum or Bitcoins to handle a certain projects, or if not atleast half of the payments are in fiats and the other half is in token of the project they are campaigning. The ones that would mostly suffers are the hunters, as there are mo assurance of the project would be successful or at least achieve their target cap(softcap, hardcap).

They are paid for their work so actually both bounty manager and bounty hunters can be a victim of scam. Though mostly affected on this is the bounty hunters they got not paid nothing at all for their hard work when they join the campaign. That's the problem when we join no assurance that the project will be successful that is why we should create an investigation before we join.

Bounty managers usually will put a demand because managing a bounty campaign is a pain in the head. You're not only reviewing post in the forum but also with different kinds of social media platform advertising and you get to monitor them everyday. Any bounty manager would demand a 50-50 deal like 50% of payment will be btc and the other 50% is the company token.

A sad reality but it is true. BM suffers the huge complaint once the project fails and even not been paid for its service. I'm not really good putting blame towards BM cause in the first place, they don't want to make it happen also (unless a true scammer) and they don't want to ruin their reputation but sadly bounty participants never realize.

I pity them actually, especially that most of the time they have 5k+ participants in social media, imagine how much they are spending their time just to check our output, then we will blame them for something that we should blame too, for sure they did their job to check the project if feasible or not, but it's not their fault if it is failed, so let's not blame them.

Asking for 50% fiat payment and 50% of their tokens is a good idea. But unfortunately every project cannot do that, most projects remain with their token allocation for the bounty program. And here I do not want to blame, but want something even better for BM and other participants. A good thing to do one BM is to ask for tokens in advance and use escrow as collateral.

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Quote from: Hypnosis00 on January 23, 2020, 12:00:47 PM

Quote from: Fatunad on January 23, 2020, 11:53:20 AM

Quote from: carriebee on January 23, 2020, 10:43:15 AM

Quote from: totoy4741 on January 23, 2020, 08:49:17 AM

I think most Bounty Managers are paid Ethereum or Bitcoins to handle a certain projects, or if not atleast half of the payments are in fiats and the other half is in token of the project they are campaigning. The ones that would mostly suffers are the hunters, as there are mo assurance of the project would be successful or at least achieve their target cap(softcap, hardcap).

They are paid for their work so actually both bounty manager and bounty hunters can be a victim of scam. Though mostly affected on this is the bounty hunters they got not paid nothing at all for their hard work when they join the campaign. That's the problem when we join no assurance that the project will be successful that is why we should create an investigation before we join.

Bounty managers usually will put a demand because managing a bounty campaign is a pain in the head. You're not only reviewing post in the forum but also with different kinds of social media platform advertising and you get to monitor them everyday. Any bounty manager would demand a 50-50 deal like 50% of payment will be btc and the other 50% is the company token.

A sad reality but it is true. BM suffers the huge complaint once the project fails and even not been paid for its service. I'm not really good putting blame towards BM cause in the first place, they don't want to make it happen also (unless a true scammer) and they don't want to ruin their reputation but sadly bounty participants never realize.

I pity them actually, especially that most of the time they have 5k+ participants in social media, imagine how much they are spending their time just to check our output, then we will blame them for something that we should blame too, for sure they did their job to check the project if feasible or not, but it's not their fault if it is failed, so let's not blame them.

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Quote from: Hypnosis00 on January 23, 2020, 12:00:47 PM

A sad reality but it is true. BM suffers the huge complaint once the project fails and even not been paid for its service. I'm not really good putting blame towards BM cause in the first place, they don't want to make it happen also (unless a true scammer) and they don't want to ruin their reputation but sadly bounty participants never realize.

even when the bounty hunter already gets their payment token but the project fails and the token is not registered in the exchange, the bounty manager becomes one of the first people to be even blamed by the bounty hunter.

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Quote from: Fatunad on January 23, 2020, 11:53:20 AM

Quote from: carriebee on January 23, 2020, 10:43:15 AM

Quote from: totoy4741 on January 23, 2020, 08:49:17 AM

I think most Bounty Managers are paid Ethereum or Bitcoins to handle a certain projects, or if not atleast half of the payments are in fiats and the other half is in token of the project they are campaigning. The ones that would mostly suffers are the hunters, as there are mo assurance of the project would be successful or at least achieve their target cap(softcap, hardcap).

They are paid for their work so actually both bounty manager and bounty hunters can be a victim of scam. Though mostly affected on this is the bounty hunters they got not paid nothing at all for their hard work when they join the campaign. That's the problem when we join no assurance that the project will be successful that is why we should create an investigation before we join.

Bounty managers usually will put a demand because managing a bounty campaign is a pain in the head. You're not only reviewing post in the forum but also with different kinds of social media platform advertising and you get to monitor them everyday. Any bounty manager would demand a 50-50 deal like 50% of payment will be btc and the other 50% is the company token.

A sad reality but it is true. BM suffers the huge complaint once the project fails and even not been paid for its service. I'm not really good putting blame towards BM cause in the first place, they don't want to make it happen also (unless a true scammer) and they don't want to ruin their reputation but sadly bounty participants never realize.

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Quote from: carriebee on January 23, 2020, 10:43:15 AM

Quote from: totoy4741 on January 23, 2020, 08:49:17 AM

I think most Bounty Managers are paid Ethereum or Bitcoins to handle a certain projects, or if not atleast half of the payments are in fiats and the other half is in token of the project they are campaigning. The ones that would mostly suffers are the hunters, as there are mo assurance of the project would be successful or at least achieve their target cap(softcap, hardcap).

They are paid for their work so actually both bounty manager and bounty hunters can be a victim of scam. Though mostly affected on this is the bounty hunters they got not paid nothing at all for their hard work when they join the campaign. That's the problem when we join no assurance that the project will be successful that is why we should create an investigation before we join.

Bounty managers usually will put a demand because managing a bounty campaign is a pain in the head. You're not only reviewing post in the forum but also with different kinds of social media platform advertising and you get to monitor them everyday. Any bounty manager would demand a 50-50 deal like 50% of payment will be btc and the other 50% is the company token.

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Quote from: carriebee on January 23, 2020, 10:43:15 AM

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I think most Bounty Managers are paid Ethereum or Bitcoins to handle a certain projects, or if not atleast half of the payments are in fiats and the other half is in token of the project they are campaigning. The ones that would mostly suffers are the hunters, as there are mo assurance of the project would be successful or at least achieve their target cap(softcap, hardcap).

They are paid for their work so actually both bounty manager and bounty hunters can be a victim of scam. Though mostly affected on this is the bounty hunters they got not paid nothing at all for their hard work when they join the campaign. That's the problem when we join no assurance that the project will be successful that is why we should create an investigation before we join.

indeed both accept the risk it seems. but the bounty manager gets paid in the beginning but their reputation gets worse and I don't think it's comparable to those who have built a very good reputation. and for bounty hunters, we have to accept it if we have made sure to join a campaign.

For both bounty managers and hunters, decent research is enough to prevent the scam teams to hire them. Without considering the alternative projects, joining the bounty campaigns as a manager will have such consequences. Obviously, the scammers don't care about the middleman and they only look for their gain in all aspects of IEO-ICO.

Although, bounty managers should not be blame in having a scam project, but still they have to protect their dignity and their reputation and of course their time, that's why they should find a project that they can already rely on, that they can be proud of, so that whether it is failed or success at least it is legit unlike being success but turned out to be scam.

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Quote from: wajik-tempe on January 23, 2020, 10:58:25 AM

Quote from: carriebee on January 23, 2020, 10:43:15 AM

They are paid for their work so actually both bounty manager and bounty hunters can be a victim of scam. Though mostly affected on this is the bounty hunters they got not paid nothing at all for their hard work when they join the campaign. That's the problem when we join no assurance that the project will be successful that is why we should create an investigation before we join.

But i think most of bounty managers (especially who already got big names in bounty) won't receive salary with the project's token instead of with fixed coins like USDT or Bitcoins because they won't their effort managing the bounty will have zero result because the price of the tokens could be not valuable when enters the market

It depends, because I have a friend who becomes bounty manager, during the peak season or good market, they are paid in USDT, but, after the bull run, most of the time they are paid in less USDT and the rest in tokens, so it really depends on what has been agreed before doing campaign.

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Quote from: carriebee on January 23, 2020, 10:43:15 AM

They are paid for their work so actually both bounty manager and bounty hunters can be a victim of scam. Though mostly affected on this is the bounty hunters they got not paid nothing at all for their hard work when they join the campaign. That's the problem when we join no assurance that the project will be successful that is why we should create an investigation before we join.

But i think most of bounty managers (especially who already got big names in bounty) won't receive salary with the project's token instead of with fixed coins like USDT or Bitcoins because they won't their effort managing the bounty will have zero result because the price of the tokens could be not valuable when enters the market

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Quote from: carriebee on January 23, 2020, 10:43:15 AM

Quote from: totoy4741 on January 23, 2020, 08:49:17 AM

I think most Bounty Managers are paid Ethereum or Bitcoins to handle a certain projects, or if not atleast half of the payments are in fiats and the other half is in token of the project they are campaigning. The ones that would mostly suffers are the hunters, as there are mo assurance of the project would be successful or at least achieve their target cap(softcap, hardcap).

They are paid for their work so actually both bounty manager and bounty hunters can be a victim of scam. Though mostly affected on this is the bounty hunters they got not paid nothing at all for their hard work when they join the campaign. That's the problem when we join no assurance that the project will be successful that is why we should create an investigation before we join.

indeed both accept the risk it seems. but the bounty manager gets paid in the beginning but their reputation gets worse and I don't think it's comparable to those who have built a very good reputation. and for bounty hunters, we have to accept it if we have made sure to join a campaign.

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Quote from: totoy4741 on January 23, 2020, 08:49:17 AM

I think most Bounty Managers are paid Ethereum or Bitcoins to handle a certain projects, or if not atleast half of the payments are in fiats and the other half is in token of the project they are campaigning. The ones that would mostly suffers are the hunters, as there are mo assurance of the project would be successful or at least achieve their target cap(softcap, hardcap).

They are paid for their work so actually both bounty manager and bounty hunters can be a victim of scam. Though mostly affected on this is the bounty hunters they got not paid nothing at all for their hard work when they join the campaign. That's the problem when we join no assurance that the project will be successful that is why we should create an investigation before we join.

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I think most Bounty Managers are paid Ethereum or Bitcoins to handle a certain projects, or if not atleast half of the payments are in fiats and the other half is in token of the project they are campaigning. The ones that would mostly suffers are the hunters, as there are mo assurance of the project would be successful or at least achieve their target cap(softcap, hardcap).

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Quote from: maxreish on January 22, 2020, 04:01:39 AM

A couple of times bounty manager is the one who was being blamed for the unsuccess projects. Not realizing that bounty managers are just doing their job whatever the owner wants him to do. And it is true that bounty participants are juat joining any ICO or any signature campaigns without further realizing that it is not worth to join for.

Being a bounty manager isn't an easy job. Reputations, good image, efforts and time are needed and I understand where OP is coming from all of his sentiments.

Bounty managers capability is of different types, few bounty managers on this forum cares about their reputations and they do research before approving a bounty project but some bounty managers are know for always introducing bad projects, I'm not going to mention names but this is true

But the central capability from the managers must be to make sure if the participant was getting safe too. There was a lot of differences between bitcoin campaign and altcoin campaign manager. The majority of managers who are introducing so many scam projects are coming from the altcoin bounty as they wanna look like they are reputable enough to manage the campaign. Still, they don't care about the quality of the campaign. Those altcoin campaign managers should have been putting more responsibility to make sure the quality of their projects.

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I am still confused about how the bounty manager got the job for the project and why they did not select it either, that they were real and paying projects,

Well, apparently even they want to manage a good one when the team itself is totally scammer then they wouldn't know. Some projects looks legit in the beginning then after a while, things turned out the other away around. Bounty managers are someway victims since some doesn't been paid in fiat or bitcoin or the worse their salary is just a shitcoin.

yes I know they seem to be pursuing reputation in this forum of course so they don't choose which one is the best to be shared here, actually this should also be prevented so that no bounty managers don't get paid because there are many scam projects, they can ask for half a down payment for payment as a bounty manager so as not to be harmed when they scammers leave the project, including bounty hunters, my hope is that in the future, bounty managers must be selective on the projects they hold at least help prevent fraud that often occurs like this, because they are the leaders of bounty hunters in This forum, whatever it is good for everyone, let's fix it now that must be fixed

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Actually, I understand this. I was the one who used to run the bounty campaign and I myself get paid with their tokens. We are like bounty hunters, every action needs to wait for a notice from our superiors and from there we will dare to distribute the tokens or give exact dates. So when a bad project ends, don't swear at us because we're one of the victims. We should better understand each other's problems and create the best quality community.

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I don't know much about what settings and payment arrangement was use between the project team and the bounty manager, But i'm sure the bounty manager was directly paid in BTC or other liquid coins/tokens, in that sense i think the bounty manager has more advantage comparing to the ordinary bounty hunters, But still the burden of bounty campaign performance in terms of results stays on the bounty manager side including on how to run the bounty campaign efficiently.

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Quote from: Novatech8 on January 22, 2020, 09:24:17 AM

Quote from: maxreish on January 22, 2020, 04:01:39 AM

A couple of times bounty manager is the one who was being blamed for the unsuccess projects. Not realizing that bounty managers are just doing their job whatever the owner wants him to do. And it is true that bounty participants are juat joining any ICO or any signature campaigns without further realizing that it is not worth to join for.

Being a bounty manager isn't an easy job. Reputations, good image, efforts and time are needed and I understand where OP is coming from all of his sentiments.

Bounty managers capability is of different types, few bounty managers on this forum cares about their reputations and they do research before approving a bounty project but some bounty managers are know for always introducing bad projects, I'm not going to mention names but this is true

although in good research, sometimes not all projects promoted by bounty managers can be successful. this also depends on market conditions and other factors. we cannot force and know the wishes of the bounty manager. we have to research the projects that we will support. and the decision is whether we want to join the campaign or not.

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Quote from: maxreish on January 22, 2020, 04:01:39 AM

A couple of times bounty manager is the one who was being blamed for the unsuccess projects. Not realizing that bounty managers are just doing their job whatever the owner wants him to do. And it is true that bounty participants are juat joining any ICO or any signature campaigns without further realizing that it is not worth to join for.

Being a bounty manager isn't an easy job. Reputations, good image, efforts and time are needed and I understand where OP is coming from all of his sentiments.

Bounty managers capability is of different types, few bounty managers on this forum cares about their reputations and they do research before approving a bounty project but some bounty managers are know for always introducing bad projects, I'm not going to mention names but this is true

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All your listed difficulties are ordinary work for a good manager. To be honest, a good manager organizes everything in such a way that later he can easily cut off fake accounts from honest ones.
For a good manager, this is not a problem. Moreover, he can specially create a trap for such accounts so that they do not complicate the process of their mimicry.
In the end I will say that good managers are one, and that is why there are so many problems at the distribution and calculation stage.

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Quote from: maxreish on January 22, 2020, 04:01:39 AM

A couple of times bounty manager is the one who was being blamed for the unsuccess projects. Not realizing that bounty managers are just doing their job whatever the owner wants him to do. And it is true that bounty participants are juat joining any ICO or any signature campaigns without further realizing that it is not worth to join for.

Being a bounty manager isn't an easy job. Reputations, good image, efforts and time are needed and I understand where OP is coming from all of his sentiments.

Indeed, bounty managers are just hired employees with a pretty good salary because of their management skills and experience, they are not an official member of the project but a lot of people often blame them for the failures of a project, the impatience and agitation are understandable from the participants but maybe they attacked the wrong object. In addition, the bounty manager has only a few contacts with the project, they do not have the right to decide or ask anything but many participants still ask very difficult questions to answer, and asked many times while there was an answer ahead

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Bounty hunters think that bounty manager will be a part of the project team but in most of the cases it'll not be true as bounty manager will be hired just to do a job and get paid, he won't be having the power to do any decisions rather just do as the team says. It's really hard to do these days and even the icos are not even getting any investments.

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