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Quote from: XCANA on January 22, 2020, 04:35:59 AM

Quote from: julius caesar on January 22, 2020, 03:18:50 AM

It is hard to become a bounty manager since all of the blame is going to be your burden because you are the one talking to the bounty participants. But, as a bounty hunter, lets understand the situation of the bounty manager. They just relay the information to us and have nothing to do with the scam that will happen sooner or later.

What? I have seen and work with many campaigns managers and haven't seen the difficulties in being a bounty manager. Although, many incompetent managers may found things difficult as a result causing them pays; who cares. Any competent bounty manager will always find things easy to administer over a campaign.

Campaign managers should be held responsible for their inability to double check the campaign they chose to administer to know if they are legit or scams, not the responsibility of the hunters who are just here doing what can earn them few SATs.

Of course, it is their duty to cross-check about the company because we have seen many managers failed to deliver from the projects. Bounty hunter's duty is to cross-check the companies whether they are legit or not, we already lost faith in bounties because we worked many months without any payments. We cannot judge the bounty managers or company.

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I guess this will give us a life lesson. If we don't really know what we are doing then don't accept the job as Bounty Manager. I think it will just give you a heartache when you accepted the job and whine about it because you have difficulty on delivering the tasks well. I think that is why we need to be good at something we do. Besides, we are paid doing it. The difference between them and the participants is the upfront payment.

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Quote from: julius caesar on January 22, 2020, 03:18:50 AM

It is hard to become a bounty manager since all of the blame is going to be your burden because you are the one talking to the bounty participants. But, as a bounty hunter, lets understand the situation of the bounty manager. They just relay the information to us and have nothing to do with the scam that will happen sooner or later.

Only few bounty managers now whotu really studied the project it's unfortunate that-those who research it will be involved too when project fails . No bounty manager , professionals will risk their reputation so we must not blame them when projects failed . Only at times they forgot to check or add our stakes in campaigns spreadsheet . The rest depend on the market itself .

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Quote from: XCANA on January 22, 2020, 04:35:59 AM

Quote from: julius caesar on January 22, 2020, 03:18:50 AM

It is hard to become a bounty manager since all of the blame is going to be your burden because you are the one talking to the bounty participants. But, as a bounty hunter, lets understand the situation of the bounty manager. They just relay the information to us and have nothing to do with the scam that will happen sooner or later.

What? I have seen and work with many campaigns managers and haven't seen the difficulties in being a bounty manager. Although, many incompetent managers may found things difficult as a result causing them pays; who cares. Any competent bounty manager will always find things easy to administer over a campaign.

Campaign managers should be held responsible for their inability to double check the campaign they chose to administer to know if they are legit or scams, not the responsibility of the hunters who are just here doing what can earn them few SATs.

I agree, they are the one who brought the project bounty here in the forum because they are paid to do so. Even a volunteer person should beheld accountable to whatever damage done by his promotion. Bounty hunters task is easy, anyone can do it as long as you have the tool. Participants will join whatever these bounty manager posted here without any hard effort. And the checking and verifying participants is one of the taks they are paid with so they should not whine about it. Aside from that, it is a personal responsibility of a Bounty manager to verify if his project is a scam or not.

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Quote from: julius caesar on January 22, 2020, 03:18:50 AM

It is hard to become a bounty manager since all of the blame is going to be your burden because you are the one talking to the bounty participants. But, as a bounty hunter, lets understand the situation of the bounty manager. They just relay the information to us and have nothing to do with the scam that will happen sooner or later.

What? I have seen and work with many campaigns managers and haven't seen the difficulties in being a bounty manager. Although, many incompetent managers may found things difficult as a result causing them pays; who cares. Any competent bounty manager will always find things easy to administer over a campaign.

Campaign managers should be held responsible for their inability to double check the campaign they chose to administer to know if they are legit or scams, not the responsibility of the hunters who are just here doing what can earn them few SATs.

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Quote from: julius caesar on January 22, 2020, 03:18:50 AM

It is hard to become a bounty manager since all of the blame is going to be your burden because you are the one talking to the bounty participants. But, as a bounty hunter, lets understand the situation of the bounty manager. They just relay the information to us and have nothing to do with the scam that will happen sooner or later.

Yes, although they have made vigilant on the project, still they can't make excuse and their trust will be vanished here in the forum, people will accused them that they were scammers too, so they should make sure too that they are only dealing with legit project so that their reputation won't be at risk.

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It is hard to become a bounty manager since all of the blame is going to be your burden because you are the one talking to the bounty participants. But, as a bounty hunter, lets understand the situation of the bounty manager. They just relay the information to us and have nothing to do with the scam that will happen sooner or later.

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I think personally from now on unless the coins are already on exchanges, bounty managers and also bounty hunters should be paid part in Eth or BTC and part in the token at the end of the ICO/IEO as a bonus. This would be far less risky for bounty hunters and managers alike because then even if the projects turn to scam, we have already had a part payment in a real digital currency that we can exchange or hodl with less risk. I also managed a bounty once and the most annoying part was sifting through all those fake accounts and even worse still, we had members pretending to be real legitimate BTCTALK members. I have had my profile faked many times and my content was stolen even as a bounty hunter. I am thinking even in bounty hunting there are scammers and thieves? There was a whole Vietnamese ring of scammers faking accounts for the video campaigns, they tried to steal every single video of my Husband's lol from his channel to get stakes in video bounties. It's a huge task to be bounty manager and one cannot run a bounty by oneself, you need at least one assistant minimum to help check and double-check spreadsheets, as well sift through tons of PMS coming in daily from bounty hunters. Don't think it's an easy job, because it isn't.

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A couple of times bounty manager is the one who was being blamed for the unsuccess projects. Not realizing that bounty managers are just doing their job whatever the owner wants him to do. And it is true that bounty participants are juat joining any ICO or any signature campaigns without further realizing that it is not worth to join for.

Being a bounty manager isn't an easy job. Reputations, good image, efforts and time are needed and I understand where OP is coming from all of his sentiments.

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Quote from: Chainsmokers on January 22, 2020, 01:26:07 AM

Quote from: bison on January 21, 2020, 11:54:33 PM

Quote from: princehandsome on January 21, 2020, 09:44:44 PM

Quote from: letyouearn on January 21, 2020, 06:31:26 PM

Bounty manager should take the risks and pay with his reputation if something goes wrong. If he is famous and well known, with good reputaion, people are following him and taking part in all his campaigns. If he fails constantly, he is to blame and nobody likes him

A professional bounty manager is willing to stake his reputation and not only expect to get pay big of the bounties he manages. of course if the project he manages continues to fail then no one people wants to follow the bounty he manages. but now many bounty managers don't care if the project they manage will end up being fraudulent or not because they just expect to be paid with the lure of a big salary.

which became a problem two years ago when many new projects came to the crypto market and not all of them succeeded in making many bounty managers tempted to get more money to promote the project. it is not the responsibility of the bounty manager to make the project a success or not. but some bounty managers who care about their reputation must choose the best project. not just the payment they will receive.

The bounty manager is not responsible for the success or failure of the project and for me personally it might be difficult for a bounty manager to judge whether a project is good or not because we know that the scammer always has a way to find loopholes and can get into it and sometimes the bounty manager only do its work by updating the spreadsheet, determining whether participants are in accordance with the requirements and reporting the results that have been done by all participants.

But as a campaign manager who has extensive experience in managing a project, of course, can assess a project that smells of fraud and even very often it happens, and the most serious problem is the rise of Copy links on Spreadsheets, where the campaign manager often misses in terms of assessing and correcting the work of all campaign participants, and that as a drawback of a campaign manager who spelled out too much of their duties as campaign manager, at least there was a change to prevent all of this from happening to be more accurate in terms of assessing and correcting the work of bounty campaign participants. ..

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Quote from: bison on January 21, 2020, 11:54:33 PM

Quote from: princehandsome on January 21, 2020, 09:44:44 PM

Quote from: letyouearn on January 21, 2020, 06:31:26 PM

Bounty manager should take the risks and pay with his reputation if something goes wrong. If he is famous and well known, with good reputaion, people are following him and taking part in all his campaigns. If he fails constantly, he is to blame and nobody likes him

A professional bounty manager is willing to stake his reputation and not only expect to get pay big of the bounties he manages. of course if the project he manages continues to fail then no one people wants to follow the bounty he manages. but now many bounty managers don't care if the project they manage will end up being fraudulent or not because they just expect to be paid with the lure of a big salary.

which became a problem two years ago when many new projects came to the crypto market and not all of them succeeded in making many bounty managers tempted to get more money to promote the project. it is not the responsibility of the bounty manager to make the project a success or not. but some bounty managers who care about their reputation must choose the best project. not just the payment they will receive.

The bounty manager is not responsible for the success or failure of the project and for me personally it might be difficult for a bounty manager to judge whether a project is good or not because we know that the scammer always has a way to find loopholes and can get into it and sometimes the bounty manager only do its work by updating the spreadsheet, determining whether participants are in accordance with the requirements and reporting the results that have been done by all participants.

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Quote from: princehandsome on January 21, 2020, 09:44:44 PM

Quote from: letyouearn on January 21, 2020, 06:31:26 PM

Bounty manager should take the risks and pay with his reputation if something goes wrong. If he is famous and well known, with good reputaion, people are following him and taking part in all his campaigns. If he fails constantly, he is to blame and nobody likes him

A professional bounty manager is willing to stake his reputation and not only expect to get pay big of the bounties he manages. of course if the project he manages continues to fail then no one people wants to follow the bounty he manages. but now many bounty managers don't care if the project they manage will end up being fraudulent or not because they just expect to be paid with the lure of a big salary.

which became a problem two years ago when many new projects came to the crypto market and not all of them succeeded in making many bounty managers tempted to get more money to promote the project. it is not the responsibility of the bounty manager to make the project a success or not. but some bounty managers who care about their reputation must choose the best project. not just the payment they will receive.

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Quote from: DDante on January 21, 2020, 10:18:37 AM

what about new projects? Honestly these new projects haven't raised a penny so where are they going to get bitcoin to pay hunters from? The easiest way is to pay hunters in their very own tokens or coins

Then they should understand that marketing is costly, even if they use spam bot, it still cost them a real dollar. If we talk about a new legit project, we start with a business plan, including how to fund the project. Usually, the team uses the bootstrap strategy (their own pocket) until they can produce a proper prototype or MVP. Only then, it's okay to raise external funds.

It depends on the startup stage. The marketing fund could come from their own pocket or seed investors.

Paying hunters with tokens is equal to expecting the hunters to work for free.

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Sometimes we tend to blame the bounty manager if something went wrong or the project fail and turn to scam. We are not thinking that the manager is like bounty hunters, doing their job to get paid and they are are not really part of the team. The manager is just a representative to manage the campaign and relay the dev's condition for those who want to participate.

Before we start blaming other people think first if you did your part as a bounty hunter, researching and careful choosing what project to participate in.

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Quote from: letyouearn on January 21, 2020, 06:31:26 PM

Bounty manager should take the risks and pay with his reputation if something goes wrong. If he is famous and well known, with good reputaion, people are following him and taking part in all his campaigns. If he fails constantly, he is to blame and nobody likes him

A professional bounty manager is willing to stake his reputation and not only expect to get pay big of the bounties he manages. of course if the project he manages continues to fail then no one people wants to follow the bounty he manages. but now many bounty managers don't care if the project they manage will end up being fraudulent or not because they just expect to be paid with the lure of a big salary.

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Quote from: letyouearn on January 21, 2020, 06:31:26 PM

Bounty manager should take the risks and pay with his reputation if something goes wrong. If he is famous and well known, with good reputaion, people are following him and taking part in all his campaigns. If he fails constantly, he is to blame and nobody likes him

We all know that bounty hunting involves risk to both of the parties including bountyhunters with manager, and the entire projwct itself, but the risk should not entirely shoulder by the bounty managers because he's somehow with the side of the b
hunters and a victim there as well. Though, the initial step to be successful relies on the decision and capability of the manager to choose the right project. Because if not, it is merely the bounty hunters who will suffer, since the manager turns out to be in the shady side of the entire team.

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Bounty manager should take the risks and pay with his reputation if something goes wrong. If he is famous and well known, with good reputaion, people are following him and taking part in all his campaigns. If he fails constantly, he is to blame and nobody likes him

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Project failure is no longer the responsibility of the bounty manager because it has entered the public offering stage, the manager only manages the campaign and ensures that the project does not scam before and during the campaign based on their thoughts. not infrequently the distribution process is only carried out by the developer so that the manager is only entitled to manage the campaign. in fact managers are not entirely wrong, except from the start they did receive work from a particular project without doing research which ultimately affected all participants.

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As a bounty publisher, a bounty manager must first inspect the authenticity of a project, make an advance inspection for the bounty participants, and provide guarantee for the authenticity of the bounty activity. This should be the responsibility of the bounty manager. Otherwise, when the bounty is completed, the bounty payment is not completed, and by that time. Participants must come to discuss with the bounty manager.

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That's right, bounty managers are not always to blame for project failures and for the fact that the team does not pay bounty hunters a reward. Everyone forgets that in most cases, bounty managers are also trapped and don't get anything for their work.

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