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January 21, 2020, 08:38:04 AM
#31
I know the feeling that is felt by bounty managers that is being blamed by bounty hunters on thier telegram group. Bounty hunters will blame the managers for not giving the reward even the manager already said the spreadsheet is sent to distribution team.
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January 21, 2020, 08:32:45 AM
#30
I have actually felt for bounty managers because I sometimes see the trouble that bounty hunters put them through. Actually, I do vex for some bounty hunters. Especially the ones that cheat and flood the whole telegram group with unecessarry messages.
i didn't know the bounty managers also face a different challenge from the project's team side. I can't imagine how they feel.
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January 21, 2020, 08:23:58 AM
#29
You are absolutely right! The pain of a bounty manager is insane! They have to go through lots of obstacles! Most of the time new hunter causes huge problems! Some hunters keep asking the same question, again and again, that's too much irritating, I experienced it! After doing all of your mentioned stuff, still, people start blaming if a single task goes a miss! No one talks about bounty managers, everyone just sees the result not the hard work behind it!
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January 21, 2020, 08:21:12 AM
#28
To all bounty hunters by now I expect you guys to have learned about rushing to promote any projects you see fit, most times not getting paid is not the bounty managers fault but from the team themselves, there is nothing bounty manager can do if team refused to pay bounty rewards, BM job is to conduct the bounty program, we bounty hunters are the ones who have the ball in our courts, think very well, do better research before you promote any project
It is true that bounty managers cannot be blamed when there are no token distributions or bounty hunters do not pay after completing their work promoting the project. For me, maybe payment using ETH or BTC is a good solution for the project itself and also the bounty hunters. Of course the project is a good or serious project to develop the project and by making payments using eth or btc I think it is a good first step for projects that really have big goals.
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January 21, 2020, 08:13:15 AM
#27
Yes we are talking about the hassle which the bounty manager goes through and bounties of good projects which fails and the development team ends up with huge loss, as a result, they could not focus on further developments and just don't bother to distribute the bounty tokens to the bounty hunters until the investors trade the tokens or else just shuts down the project.

Management's fault:
They tend to be greedy at one point of time and starts thinking that if they distribute the bounty to the hunters they will dump it anyway nad the value of token will crash down and they dealy the distribution meanwhile the bounty hunters start writing bad about the project and there were instances that the genuine bounty projects were termed as scam for this issue.

Bounty hunter's fault:
Bounty hunter just join any random campaign without investigating and then they are the greediest bunch(not everyone) I have seen while managing the campaigns as one user registers with hundreds of fake accounts and that too their account has followers who have nothing to do with crpto as most of them as desperate who just follows the twitter account by looking at fake DP of some hot girls which are often used by the hunters to gain more followers, moreover, the bounty users enter their ETH address on some other person's profile as well and if the bounty manager does not check that then the cheater will get paid twice and the person who works hard will not be paid, submitting false report is one of the main concern wherein the bounty manager has to check thousands of report and some of them just copy-paste old reports to get reward without working.

Then comes those users who keeps spamming the telegram group by sharing some scam projects and irrelevant stuff from numerous fake profiles.

I think the whole bounty process has become a shithole and the worst part is that the signature campaigns are not entertained by bounties as they want to reach wider audience without knowing that most of the social media campaigns do not reach any real audience as it reaches some fake profiles who follow the bounty hunters just by looking at their picture.

Regardless of the issue, the bounty managers are cursed as if they are paying out of their pocket. Users needs to understand that even bounty managers are paid for their job just like bounty hunters and most of the time even they are not paid for their hardwork. Even a slightest negligence from bounty hunters gets them a negative trust thanks to those merit thirsty users who tries to blame it all on bounty hunters to get a merit.

this is just a brief of not even 5% of pain which bounty managers go through.


Great power comes great responsibility and that's the burden of most bounty managers. Yes, they are getting paid higher than bounty hunters but they are also facing a big risk because they are the ones to blame by bounty hunters if ever the project fails. They should perform every single duty for most participants because that's a part of their task. It's not easy to be a bounty manager because you'll only get paid accordingly for what you have worked for.
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January 21, 2020, 08:08:25 AM
#26
Yes we are talking about the hassle which the bounty manager goes through and bounties of good projects which fails and the development team ends up with huge loss, as a result, they could not focus on further developments and just don't bother to distribute the bounty tokens to the bounty hunters until the investors trade the tokens or else just shuts down the project.

Management's fault:
They tend to be greedy at one point of time and starts thinking that if they distribute the bounty to the hunters they will dump it anyway nad the value of token will crash down and they dealy the distribution meanwhile the bounty hunters start writing bad about the project and there were instances that the genuine bounty projects were termed as scam for this issue.

Bounty hunter's fault:
Bounty hunter just join any random campaign without investigating and then they are the greediest bunch(not everyone) I have seen while managing the campaigns as one user registers with hundreds of fake accounts and that too their account has followers who have nothing to do with crpto as most of them as desperate who just follows the twitter account by looking at fake DP of some hot girls which are often used by the hunters to gain more followers, moreover, the bounty users enter their ETH address on some other person's profile as well and if the bounty manager does not check that then the cheater will get paid twice and the person who works hard will not be paid, submitting false report is one of the main concern wherein the bounty manager has to check thousands of report and some of them just copy-paste old reports to get reward without working.

Then comes those users who keeps spamming the telegram group by sharing some scam projects and irrelevant stuff from numerous fake profiles.

I think the whole bounty process has become a shithole and the worst part is that the signature campaigns are not entertained by bounties as they want to reach wider audience without knowing that most of the social media campaigns do not reach any real audience as it reaches some fake profiles who follow the bounty hunters just by looking at their picture.

Regardless of the issue, the bounty managers are cursed as if they are paying out of their pocket. Users needs to understand that even bounty managers are paid for their job just like bounty hunters and most of the time even they are not paid for their hardwork. Even a slightest negligence from bounty hunters gets them a negative trust thanks to those merit thirsty users who tries to blame it all on bounty hunters to get a merit.

this is just a brief of not even 5% of pain which bounty managers go through.
In reality this kind of thing can happen, there are some people who want to get more profit by using fake accounts or other methods. Of course this is detrimental for those of us who participate in a campaign honestly, I think the unsettling thing in a bounty campaign has been going on for quite a long time, I don't want to blame anyone here, because I know both the manager or project organizer is doing the best thing for the participants and also the products.
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January 21, 2020, 08:06:29 AM
#25
Hurts to be a and manager who is billed about the campaign reward as it was because he had all that in his handle he owned him but he was only 3rd party to promote the campaign of one of the projects but it is unfortunate like that. Indeed, many are annoyed by the projects that they hold a lot of problems and feel inappropriate to do their campaign so yes maybe it's already reasonable among the bounty hunters.
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January 21, 2020, 07:55:23 AM
#24
Bounty managers are not responsible for the token distribution and most of the managers will mention this in their bounty thread itself but if they are willingly promote after knowing a project is scam or part of that project then that manager is going to get bad reputation from DT members.

Campaign manager also have to pick the right project to promote,if they are choosing random project just to get some bucks then they will not last long here as bounty campaign manager.
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January 21, 2020, 07:43:15 AM
#23
Unfortunately bounties nowadays have a really bad rep, and their usefulness to the projects is questionable more often than not.
This is because of the scams that happened in the past years especially in 2018 where the scam projects are everywhere and it also affected the reputation of the bounty campaign as a whole. I know how bounty managers are feeling right now but I still believe that you bounty managers still get your fee in managing their campaigns even though some of them are becoming scam in the end.

The truth is, 50% or more bounty hunters have no clue what they're applying for, they just heard from someone "go apply, its free money". Sad part is, around 30% of them don't even speak English (which i think many would agree, is a must in this community).
Bounty campaign = free money for most of the users here and we can't blame them to be honest. They are the bodies of the bounty campaign and a campaign will be useless without them so even though they don't have a clue in the campaign they joined, they will just join for the sake of "FREE MONEY".

And no matter how you run your campaign, lenient or very strict, there's at least 10% of them that will call you scammer/bad.
People will always search for loopholes in everything including in bounty campaigns.

To conclude it, I must give a salute to those bounty campaigns who are working hard just to do their job as a bounty managers. Some of them have their own staffs that can help them in counting. If there are no bounty managers right now, there are no new projects and there are no free money for those stupid users who are just here for the sake of bounty campaigns Cheesy. Yes scam projects are always there are we can't remove it right now but still respect for the bounty managers out there and I hope that you will not stop in managing campaigns Smiley.
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January 21, 2020, 07:39:34 AM
#22
Of course, there's a lot of pain that a bounty manager go when handling bounty projects. And most of the time they got the grunt of bounty participants if payments are delayed and all the manager can do is apologise on behalf of the project itself.

There are a lot of good bounty managers that I think disappear because of many accusations against them. I will not name names here, but way back 2018 there was one who truly lost the trust of the community because the project he is managing turns out to be a scam.
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January 21, 2020, 07:34:57 AM
#21
I think this problem could be solved with a simple BTC payment for the campaign. No more participants must wait for the stupid distribution after working for several months. Managers must not be greedy and they should not accept random unknown campaigns. Then after proper due diligence, the team must use escrow to deal with payments.

Payment with tokens created from thin air is the problem!
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January 21, 2020, 07:17:05 AM
#20
Those Managers deserved to be awarded with hard-working awards. They are one of the reasons why we have this kind of community. If they managed a few scam project, I think it's not a good idea to put all blame to them rather we need to reflect and ask ourself why are we participating in their campaigns. some of these guys are also victims of some scam projects. We need to respect them and think as if we were on their shoes to avoid hurting their feelings.
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January 21, 2020, 06:52:41 AM
#19

At one point, i even had an idea to create a fake bounty, and clearly call it "FAKE BOUNTY, NO REWARDS GIVEN" and explain in the details that it's a social project with no rewards, just to see how many people will blindly join without reading details.
Lol, that's a clever one but really some don't read hence couldn't comprehend what they're reading.
Some jump on the boat even without water. Sad.

I am still confused about how the bounty manager got the job for the project and why they did not select it either, that they were real and paying projects,
Well, apparently even they want to manage a good one when the team itself is totally scammer then they wouldn't know. Some projects looks legit in the beginning then after a while, things turned out the other away around. Bounty managers are someway victims since some doesn't been paid in fiat or bitcoin or the worse their salary is just a shitcoin.
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January 21, 2020, 06:48:28 AM
#18
Bounty managers cannot be blamed because they only manage campaigns and the rest is only the team that can do that, the project team must be responsible for all this because if the project fails or the bounty is not paid because they themselves are not the bounty manager.
There must be an escrow in every bounty so that bounty hunters can get rewards if there is already an escrow.
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January 21, 2020, 06:34:20 AM
#17
I know exactly the complaint as a bounty manager, because one of them is the project they hold turns out to be a scam project (and not getting any of it) and then the negative trust is in the account. Not all managers know which projects are legitimate and which are scams, but some of them are reliable managers who will surely earn according to the work. being a bounty manager is actually a risk, unless they have been paid in advance (BTC, ETH, USDT). of course it is very different if payment is in coins or project tokens, of course a manager will complain because he only receives junk coins / tokens. for now being a bounty manager or bounty hunter, is a very tiring and time-consuming work. I really miss 2017, where only 3 months I can buy a car.
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January 21, 2020, 06:26:06 AM
#16
To all bounty hunters by now I expect you guys to have learned about rushing to promote any projects you see fit, most times not getting paid is not the bounty managers fault but from the team themselves, there is nothing bounty manager can do if team refused to pay bounty rewards, BM job is to conduct the bounty program, we bounty hunters are the ones who have the ball in our courts, think very well, do better research before you promote any project
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January 21, 2020, 06:15:28 AM
#15
Project teams are to be blame here, before introducing or laughing your project you have to consider some facts like, how to make the token or coin more demanding, to be honest new project with rare features will be unstoppable, only projects that are introducing something that's already available will be in trouble because there will be competitions
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January 21, 2020, 06:12:11 AM
#14
You can't blame bounty managers, they just do their jobs and they are not members of a project. They are hired to manage the campaign and do the best they can, after the bounty ends, the bounty manager will send the spreadsheet to the project and from then on they will end the responsibility. The token distribution time will depend on each project and the bounty manager will never manage it
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January 21, 2020, 06:08:56 AM
#13
the accuracy of being a manager is indeed necessary so that the quality of his work becomes professional when checking the job of a gift seeker whether it is a report or posting their tweets it has to be even more thorough, I know why being a manager is sick? they work to correct the job of a prize seeker but the manager is far less allocated than the participant signature or articel participant because in their manager consists of groups of course if the manager gets their share they will share their payment equally
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January 21, 2020, 05:46:35 AM
#12
Yes we are talking about the hassle which the bounty manager goes through and bounties of good projects which fails and the development team ends up with huge loss, as a result, they could not focus on further developments and just don't bother to distribute the bounty tokens to the bounty hunters until the investors trade the tokens or else just shuts down the project.

Management's fault:
They tend to be greedy at one point of time and starts thinking that if they distribute the bounty to the hunters they will dump it anyway nad the value of token will crash down and they dealy the distribution meanwhile the bounty hunters start writing bad about the project and there were instances that the genuine bounty projects were termed as scam for this issue.

Bounty hunter's fault:
Bounty hunter just join any random campaign without investigating and then they are the greediest bunch(not everyone) I have seen while managing the campaigns as one user registers with hundreds of fake accounts and that too their account has followers who have nothing to do with crpto as most of them as desperate who just follows the twitter account by looking at fake DP of some hot girls which are often used by the hunters to gain more followers, moreover, the bounty users enter their ETH address on some other person's profile as well and if the bounty manager does not check that then the cheater will get paid twice and the person who works hard will not be paid, submitting false report is one of the main concern wherein the bounty manager has to check thousands of report and some of them just copy-paste old reports to get reward without working.

Then comes those users who keeps spamming the telegram group by sharing some scam projects and irrelevant stuff from numerous fake profiles.

I think the whole bounty process has become a shithole and the worst part is that the signature campaigns are not entertained by bounties as they want to reach wider audience without knowing that most of the social media campaigns do not reach any real audience as it reaches some fake profiles who follow the bounty hunters just by looking at their picture.

Regardless of the issue, the bounty managers are cursed as if they are paying out of their pocket. Users needs to understand that even bounty managers are paid for their job just like bounty hunters and most of the time even they are not paid for their hardwork. Even a slightest negligence from bounty hunters gets them a negative trust thanks to those merit thirsty users who tries to blame it all on bounty hunters to get a merit.

this is just a brief of not even 5% of pain which bounty managers go through.

Reading this, my smile was getting bigger and bigger, but i couldn't agree more.
Unfortunately bounties nowadays have a really bad rep, and their usefulness to the projects is questionable more often than not.

The truth is, 50% or more bounty hunters have no clue what they're applying for, they just heard from someone "go apply, its free money". Sad part is, around 30% of them don't even speak English (which i think many would agree, is a must in this community).

And no matter how you run your campaign, lenient or very strict, there's at least 10% of them that will call you scammer/bad.

I'm sure many of bounty managers heard the phrase "bounty hunters work very hard". While some really do, and kudos to them, most of them have automated retweeting/liking scripts and usually use a spin-bot on articles.
And then, when i do reward a genuinely good article with bonus stakes, i'm accused of favoritism and am subjected to scrutiny and name calling.

It's a cursed road to walk on, being a bounty manager, but it has it's rewards.

At one point, i even had an idea to create a fake bounty, and clearly call it "FAKE BOUNTY, NO REWARDS GIVEN" and explain in the details that it's a social project with no rewards, just to see how many people will blindly join without reading details.
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