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Topic: Particl•PART|Confidential Transactions|Atomic Swaps|Cold Staking|P2P Marketplace - page 29. (Read 85744 times)

legendary
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What is the next major release for a particl project to expect in close future? I am a little bit lost around. Grin

Marketplace Alpha and Beta release in Q1 2018 is the critical path item we're working towards and the last item identified when we layed out the milestones for the Marketplace MVP.

http://particl.io/roadmap/
sr. member
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As you bring up atomic swaps, how close are you to make atomic swaps seamlessly possible? Is that very close or a long term goal? Would that then be possible for any digital currency?
newbie
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what platforms do you use on your token?
newbie
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ledger s integration, marketplace, chat, RingCT on btc codebase, DEX

this in the next weeks/months (q1 2018)
hero member
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What is the next major release for a particl project to expect in close future? I am a little bit lost around. Grin
legendary
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There are some tutorials.

check partfaq.info or particl.wiki

Thank you, you're the man.

Hi guys,

Tell me please how to staking? Should I just open the wallet and keep it open?
There's the answer here - https://particl.wiki/staking
newbie
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There are some tutorials.

check partfaq.info or particl.wiki

legendary
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Hi guys,

Tell me please how to staking? Should I just open the wallet and keep it open?
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After the marketplace (or ideally before) I hope some time will be spent courting retailers, particularly electronics retailers.

Most of the things you can buy online with crypto are still Chinese tat. I'd love to see a good electronics retailer selling in Particl.

https://www.scan.co.uk/ accept BTC but through Bitpay, so really they are accepting fiat. I wonder if someone like that could be convinced to go full-crypto and post some of their goods for sale in Particl?
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Altcom : AZwV4Zh2MdYhvyni4QbR5c2CfsAWkcCXAC
I like the idea of an all-in-one platform, decentralised social media, marketplace, dex etc.
This is what I dream Particl to become! I think the team is currently building strong tools to make that possible (decentralized voting & governance, staking reward management, a modular and flexible GUI wallet, etc). We just need a strong community to use those tools I think we'd have a very strong platform.

However, if the team decide to go down this route they must be careful to prioritise, better to do a few things well than a lot badly.

Agreed, though let's not forget the team is probably gonna raise more millions with the second funding round and are going to be able to hire many more devs so we can do more at the same time! Smiley

IMHO i think a DEX is the next step after the marketplace
Found this lately https://altcoinexchange.featureupvote.com/ and voted for Particl
With the Atomic Swap activated, Particl need to be on all DEX available.
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I like the idea of an all-in-one platform, decentralised social media, marketplace, dex etc.
This is what I dream Particl to become! I think the team is currently building strong tools to make that possible (decentralized voting & governance, staking reward management, a modular and flexible GUI wallet, etc). We just need a strong community to use those tools I think we'd have a very strong platform.

However, if the team decide to go down this route they must be careful to prioritise, better to do a few things well than a lot badly.

Agreed, though let's not forget the team is probably gonna raise more millions with the second funding round and are going to be able to hire many more devs so we can do more at the same time! Smiley
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Man this is really cool! I didn't know the team would be open to listening to our ideas. I'm gonna have to think on this for a bit lol. The team gets more and more impressive everyday!



Yes, let's just say the team didn't create a decentralized voting mechanism for nothing  Smiley It's already working but currently only on CLI, but when they finally implement it on the GUI wallet then this is going to become much more interesting. We'll be able to vote on proposals, ideas and such and really get the feel of what the community want. I'm currently exploring Kialo to see how it would be a good fit for community discussions like this one. You can look at it here: www.kialo.com/tour  , from my point of view, it is the perfect fit and exactly what we need to facilitate community debates. We could discuss on Kialo, and then vote on Particl. To me that is a very good combination of governance tools.

It would even be better if we could integrate Kialo into the wallet but unfortunately they don't seem to have any APIs that we can use. A solution could be to create a similar solution of our own, whether it is a decentralized version or (hopefully temporary) centralized version with the Particl Foundation running servers (they already do run servers for the Particl Copay wallet). A decentralized version would be another thing I would like to see eventually, but not really a priority, just a really cool feature if we ever get this.
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I like the idea of an all-in-one platform, decentralised social media, marketplace, dex etc.

Obviously the marketplace should take priority but if the team are willing and able to add more there's no reason why Particl can't do these things.

A one-stop-shop for all things crypto could give PART the advantage BTC has. BTC is the currency we do most of our trading in, if the PART platform is capable of many things and it's used as the default currency to exchange BTC and alts on the platform it could be huge.

However, if the team decide to go down this route they must be careful to prioritise, better to do a few things well than a lot badly.
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Man this is really cool! I didn't know the team would be open to listening to our ideas. I'm gonna have to think on this for a bit lol. The team gets more and more impressive everyday!

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Hey mitbf welcome on BCT ehe  Cheesy

From reddit.com/r/particl: https://www.reddit.com/r/Particl/comments/7aqpa8/monthly_discussion_thread_november_2017/dpvo8wc/

Quote from: CryptoBeans (from reddit.com/r/particl)
Have the Particl team discussed at all what other modules they are thinking of building after the marketplace app? The Roadmap on their site doesn't go past the beta marketplace and I am curious what other ways they're thinking of using this network.

Quote from: Litebit (from reddit.com/r/particl)
The focus is on the Marketplace app, but any number of apps, privacy focused or not can be put on the privacy framework. I know some of the community have floated other ideas like games and auctions or decentralized exchange. I think gathering ideas here could lead to some being developed, either by the team or other project teams.

Here's a good plug for governance on Particl. With decentralized voting cooked in, I think the community could lead the charge on planning what lies ahead for the Particl ecosystem after Q1 of 2018.
Proposals to vote on, maybe new community development teams being created. Possibly even a Particl Foundation Privacy Grant to help kickstart worthy startup teams as they begin building apps on top of Particl's Privacy Framework.

So Litebit has opened the door for community discussion of what happens post-marketplace and thought I'd port this discussion here as well as Reddit/Slack/etc. It is due for release during Q1 2018, which isn't too far away, so in my opinion, it would be better to start discussing the way forward post-mp right now so that once it is released we can move on without wasting time debating such topics. It's all about efficiency. So far, two posts were posted on Reddit, here they are:

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Quote from: BrownianRatchet from (reddit.com/r/particl)
I think a Kickstarter-type dApp would complement the marketplace well. I think many of Particl's initial users will be in niche markets that rely on seed funding for the initial product and that are not adequately served by sites like Amazon and eBay. Allowing users to anonymously fund the development of products they want to buy will also result in better synchrony between the buyers and sellers, especially early on. Investors can also set their stake rewards to automatically be sent to projects they want to support long-term.

A friend told me that Kickstarter charges 10% fees for sellers, so simply on fees alone, Particl would be a strong competitor.

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Quote from: Cryptoguard (from reddit.com/r/particl)
I agree this fits nicely with Particl and its marketplace. I also don't think it should be too hard to make as it is not so exotic in terms of feature.

One feature that could be interesting and similar to Kickstarter is goals/milestones. If the project doesn't reach a set miletstone, investors are refunded at no charge. Then we can get more crazy and maybe even put the option to give funders a share of your sales revenues made on Particl, though that would be more easy to game (you can just sell from another address and since Particl is anonymous people wouldn't know or couldn't enforce their share to be paid, but this assumes a dishonest seller).

One thing that Kickstarter does good is that it enforces goals. So if you reach your milestone, you have no choice to send your promised goods to customers. On Particl, this would be harder (maybe impossible) to enforce, so funders would need to do their own due diligence to decide whether a project is honest or not.

Also, I really hope we can get a tool to manage staking rewards soon because that will allow people to do all sorts of things with their stakes, be it fund a kickstarter-like project on Particl, passively donate to crypto Youtubers until we get coverage, donate to privacy and security-related organisations such as Tor, TAILS, EFF, Qubes, Purism, etc...and hopefully get on their official repos and such. I really think this would be a killer feature.

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Quote from: Cryptoguard (from reddit.com/r/particl)
I'd personally be very interested in a decentralized Twitter-style platform. I've always dreamt of having such a feature on Particl and it seems like we already have the infrastructure for it with the new paid messages feature

Twitter is used a lot in political discussions and it has gotten a bad reputation for heavily censoring various accounts, topics and political positions. I'm sure a lot of people know what I'm talking about. Same goes for Youtube/Facebook, but Twitter seems easier to emulate in a decentralized fashion + it would be another great reason to SPEND TIME ON THE WALLET. Once we get a web portal that'd be even better, you could post just like posting on www.twitter.com
but instead you go on www.partweet.com
or something like that

The other "dream Dapp" for my personal taste would be a Blackjack game where users can either play the game or "fund" the House and be the casino. That'd give another passive income to people and you wouldn't need to leave the wallet open. I remember back in SDC oldies there was a community member who started working on a Shadow dice game within the wallet (but that was dropped), so it's not so far fetched in terms of an idea that could be built on Particl.

Note that both these examples generate additional passive income. One through paid messages and the other by taking a risk a be the House.

Curious to see what others would like to see!

Overall I think BCT is a good platform to discuss this, so if anyone got some idea, argument or point to make on the subject, please do. Let's start planning this platform's future the way we want it to be!
newbie
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Never thought I'd actually join the cesspool that is bitcointalk, but here I am.  PART's dev team has been kicking ass, as one can see from all the github activity... https://github.com/particl/dapp-shell/commits/develop   The passive income channels that flow into the PoS make this coin very undervalued, in my opinion.  It will be interesting to see the price when the market is delivered soon.
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Ok that allows me to relax a little bit more Wink Shooting that article from the hip in response to a question would have been impressive! Tongue
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On another note, since setting up cold staking, I've yet to receive any stakes ( 5 days now). Prior to cold staking, I was getting stake every day or two. The cold staking percentage is still showing 0% in my wallet. partyman status on my staking node says "particld staking currently - NO - low_balance"
Also, my "particld staking weight" on my staking node shows as 0/427995286249408 so it almost seems as thought the cold staking node is not talking to my local Particl Wallet. I followed the cold staking guide posted by Paul and didn't get any errors during the setup process...

I don't need to "unlock for staking" on my local Particl Wallet for the cold staking to activate do I? That would defeat the purpose of cold staking feature...

I unlocked my Particl Wallet for staking and now received a stake, but the cold staking % is still 0%. I don't think I am doing this correctly.

Just to follow up, after unlocking my Particl Wallet for staking only whilst having cold staking enabled, I am now seeing the cold staking percentage increase to ~20% and my staking node is now reporting as staking. I'm not sure if this is just a coincidence that this began happening after unlocking my Particl Wallet for staking, but I didn't see anything in the guide mentioning that the Particl Wallet has to be unlocked for staking in order for the cold staking to activate.

Yes, you need to keep your wallet unlocked for staking until it shows 100%, at which point you can let your staking node do the work. You can also make that process instantaneous by sending all your coins back to you. Just generate a new address (or use one that you already have) and send your coin to yourself, it should insta 100%. You will however lose a bit of staking efficiency for a while since that will mess with the outputs.

Ok thanks for confirming that the Particl Wallet needs to be unlocked for staking until it shows 100%. I must have missed this in the cold staking guide.

Once the cold staking is activated, do the coins generated from staking flow back to the Particl Wallet (the cold wallet) or do they stay on the staking node wallet?

Coins never leave your normal wallet and neve reach your staking wallet. What happens is that everytime some of your outputs get staked, they are sent over to a new type of address (still within the same wallet). That new address type can be staked from your cold staking node while being kept offline, but that only works once the bar reaches 100%. There was some more technical explanation on the Slack channel by Particl's dev Dasource but I can't seem to find it for now. Will post when I do.
sr. member
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On another note, since setting up cold staking, I've yet to receive any stakes ( 5 days now). Prior to cold staking, I was getting stake every day or two. The cold staking percentage is still showing 0% in my wallet. partyman status on my staking node says "particld staking currently - NO - low_balance"
Also, my "particld staking weight" on my staking node shows as 0/427995286249408 so it almost seems as thought the cold staking node is not talking to my local Particl Wallet. I followed the cold staking guide posted by Paul and didn't get any errors during the setup process...

I don't need to "unlock for staking" on my local Particl Wallet for the cold staking to activate do I? That would defeat the purpose of cold staking feature...

I unlocked my Particl Wallet for staking and now received a stake, but the cold staking % is still 0%. I don't think I am doing this correctly.

Just to follow up, after unlocking my Particl Wallet for staking only whilst having cold staking enabled, I am now seeing the cold staking percentage increase to ~20% and my staking node is now reporting as staking. I'm not sure if this is just a coincidence that this began happening after unlocking my Particl Wallet for staking, but I didn't see anything in the guide mentioning that the Particl Wallet has to be unlocked for staking in order for the cold staking to activate.

Yes, you need to keep your wallet unlocked for staking until it shows 100%, at which point you can let your staking node do the work. You can also make that process instantaneous by sending all your coins back to you. Just generate a new address (or use one that you already have) and send your coin to yourself, it should insta 100%. You will however lose a bit of staking efficiency for a while since that will mess with the outputs.

Ok thanks for confirming that the Particl Wallet needs to be unlocked for staking until it shows 100%. I must have missed this in the cold staking guide.

Once the cold staking is activated, do the coins generated from staking flow back to the Particl Wallet (the cold wallet) or do they stay on the staking node wallet?
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