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Topic: PhoenixMiner 6.2c: fastest Ethereum/Ethash miner with lowest devfee (Win/Linux) - page 47. (Read 784950 times)

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Where is Mr Phoenix? He is not posting since May. Should we concerned?
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While I agree it's not the right time to build a new rig, the drop off of mining earnings from today shouldn't be 40%.

If I'm wrong here, please let me know, but the block rewards would be a base minimum of 2 ETH (like today) plus any tips.  So even if there are no tips, a block reward will still be 2 ETH.

For ethermine, the most recent block rewards are in the 2.1 to 2.4 range.  That would be about a 4% to 15% drop to 2 ETH.  Even the higher rewards of 2.6 would only be a ~23% drop.  You have to get into block rewards of 3.3+ Eth to see a 40% reduction.

So it will have an effect, but it's not going to be nearly as bad as some people think.  Plus there's the probability that the value of Eth rises.

With all that said, right now, $2k USD would be better spent on Eth directly instead of a GPU to mine it.

I say is better in GPU-s as for the long term you can always switch algorithm if the Eth profitability falls that much by 40% which I highly doubt it will.There is Ethereum Classic,Ravencoin and Ergo coins which are still very profitable to mine.If the profitability goes down like 5-15% will not be a big deal if we have a price increase of Ethereum then we are still in profit and this indicates that in the long run can be a good choice to buy GPU-s if you can find them cheap enough which unfortunately is not the case as of yet.Personally I was being pushed by a friend to just buy Ethereum in February 2021 but I insisted on creating a mining rig and I am glad we did because until now we have accumulated 1.3 Ethereum in total which is not bad and we continue to generate near 0.01 Eth daily with almost 300 Mhsh of processing power.

If anyone thinks that Eth won't move to POS within a year, then go for the GPU.  A 3090 should take almost a year to mine one Eth.  (MSRP matters there.)

I started in February too and I knew the short timeline.

I plan on mining other coins too, but right now, if Eth goes away and miners all move to the other coins, that profitability will drop significantly.  Hopefully something else pops up but there's definitely a "green" push in the crypto space.

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While I agree it's not the right time to build a new rig, the drop off of mining earnings from today shouldn't be 40%.

If I'm wrong here, please let me know, but the block rewards would be a base minimum of 2 ETH (like today) plus any tips.  So even if there are no tips, a block reward will still be 2 ETH.

For ethermine, the most recent block rewards are in the 2.1 to 2.4 range.  That would be about a 4% to 15% drop to 2 ETH.  Even the higher rewards of 2.6 would only be a ~23% drop.  You have to get into block rewards of 3.3+ Eth to see a 40% reduction.

So it will have an effect, but it's not going to be nearly as bad as some people think.  Plus there's the probability that the value of Eth rises.

With all that said, right now, $2k USD would be better spent on Eth directly instead of a GPU to mine it.

I say is better in GPU-s as for the long term you can always switch algorithm if the Eth profitability falls that much by 40% which I highly doubt it will.There is Ethereum Classic,Ravencoin and Ergo coins which are still very profitable to mine.If the profitability goes down like 5-15% will not be a big deal if we have a price increase of Ethereum then we are still in profit and this indicates that in the long run can be a good choice to buy GPU-s if you can find them cheap enough which unfortunately is not the case as of yet.Personally I was being pushed by a friend to just buy Ethereum in February 2021 but I insisted on creating a mining rig and I am glad we did because until now we have accumulated 1.3 Ethereum in total which is not bad and we continue to generate near 0.01 Eth daily with almost 300 Mhsh of processing power.
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While I agree it's not the right time to build a new rig, the drop off of mining earnings from today shouldn't be 40%.

If I'm wrong here, please let me know, but the block rewards would be a base minimum of 2 ETH (like today) plus any tips.  So even if there are no tips, a block reward will still be 2 ETH.

For ethermine, the most recent block rewards are in the 2.1 to 2.4 range.  That would be about a 4% to 15% drop to 2 ETH.  Even the higher rewards of 2.6 would only be a ~23% drop.  You have to get into block rewards of 3.3+ Eth to see a 40% reduction.

So it will have an effect, but it's not going to be nearly as bad as some people think.  Plus there's the probability that the value of Eth rises.

With all that said, right now, $2k USD would be better spent on Eth directly instead of a GPU to mine it.
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Please add the option to disable SSL certificate validation for encrypted connections. Currently, you cannot use PhoenixMiner using an encrypted ssl connection with a valid certificate, however, to the target server I direct traffic from my own domain without ssl ... Just to shorten the address.
Ethminer made it possible in his time.
Maybe you can build a solution on this: https://github.com/ethereum-mining/ethminer/blob/master/libpoolprotocols/stratum/EthStratumClient.cpp#L571

Moreover, maybe it would be worth updating the CUDA version of the final compiled version? 8.0 is almost prehistory :-)
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On 4-5 Aug there will be an eth fork, which will burn gas fees which so far were going to the miners. How much it will affect mining profitability can't be predicted. May be 40%, may be more. And POS is scheduled for December this year. The remaining POW coins can't handle even 1% of the eth hash power, so the profit will be only for those having very cheap or free electricity. The big mining farms are preparing to shut down and soon there will be a flood of thousands cheap gpu's. The prices are already falling, and I guess around December the gpus will be > 10x cheaper. Not a good time to start building rigs, I guess. Still, I see quite a few newbies doing so, apparently not having a clue what will happen soon.

that's interesting. I tend to agree generally. last time I was adding gpus it was 5700 about the time it got released (and maybe it was good time to add more).
now its all unclear yet again (as it always been - no guarantees) and pos is coming for real. but what % of pow would be used for eth and for how long... and if eth would be above 10K... also there other chains that may use POW (and who knows how it will works and how much need for "POW enabled trust" will be required ), there many ifs...
also profits are good, better than the most of the last 5 years in fact(in fiat terms) or what?
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All good things to those who wait
On 4-5 Aug there will be an eth fork, which will burn gas fees which so far were going to the miners. How much it will affect mining profitability can't be predicted. May be 40%, may be more. And POS is scheduled for December this year. The remaining POW coins can't handle even 1% of the eth hash power, so the profit will be only for those having very cheap or free electricity. The big mining farms are preparing to shut down and soon there will be a flood of thousands cheap gpu's. The prices are already falling, and I guess around December the gpus will be > 10x cheaper. Not a good time to start building rigs, I guess. Still, I see quite a few newbies doing so, apparently not having a clue what will happen soon.
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Colleagues hello. PhoenixMiner has been in use for a few years. Co time on 1060 (6 gb) cards hashrate began to fall. Dropped to about 19 mh / s. I almost didn’t react to the memory (it was not enough, the hash even increased if I spent the memory in minutes on Afterburner). Dummy that the hashrate fell in connection with the improvement of the difficulty. But yesterday, it was launched from another miner GMiner and the hash rate became normal. Hashrate 24 mh / s. The memory acceleration is adequate. Ho, I want to come back to PhoenixMiner (I like it) but I don’t know what needs to be done to make it work. Guess ...

Кoллeги пpивeт. Hecкoлькo лeт пoльзoвaлcя PhoenixMiner. Co вpeмeнeм нa кapтax 1060 (6 gb) cтaл пaдaть xэшpeйт. Упaл пpимepнo дo 19 mh/s. Paзгoн пaмяти пoчти нe peaгиpoвaл (мaлo тoгo, xэш дaжe yвeличивaлcя ecли я yгoнял paзгoн пaмяти в минyc нa Afterburner). Дyмaл, чтo xэшpeйт yпaл в cвязи c yвeличeниeм cлoжнocти. Ho вчepa, зaпycтилcя c GMiner и вce вepнyлacь нa кpyги cвoя. Xэшpeйт 24 mh/s. Ha paзгoн пaмяти peaгиpyeт aдeквaтнo. Ho, xoчy вepнyтьcя PhoenixMiner (oн мнe нpaвитcя) нo нe знaю, чтo нaдo cдeлaть чтoб oн  paбoтaл. Пocoвeтyйтe...
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Hey all,

I am facing an issue with my rig running 5.6d on Win 10.

My cards are 2xRX580, a 1660, a 3060 and finally an RX5700 GT.

I am using afterburner to set voltages, clocks etc. as setting through AMD catalyst had been causing voltages for the RX580 cards to reset and them to run very hot.

However, the RX5700 keeps crashing the amd driver. I have first tried running the rig with that card disabled for hours on different configurations (I will describe them bellow) and everything was fine so the issue has been isolated and seems to lie with that card. My assumption was that catalyst/afterburner are conficting again, causing the card to change clock/voltage settings which in return causes it to crash.

I have tried with 21.5.1, 21.4.1, 21.3.2 which are supported on 5.6d and an older drive (do not recall version) which I was using with 5.6c. The driver uninstalls are done with DDU and I have tried installing driver only (no catalyst suit) when that option was available or deleting catalyst folder when it was not (could not find an way to uninstall catalyst only). I should note that with the previous way of running things, i.e. configure AMD cards from Catalyst and Nvidia cards from afterburner was rather stable.

Any ideas what is going on here or of a way to firmly lock power/clock settings for the cards? If you believe this is not the issue, could you please suggest any other things to troubleshoot and/or a known stable driver for RX5700 GT? I should note the card itself is fine, tried working with it (connect to it with DP) and it was working without issues.

Hi,
From what you said, it looks to me you have 1 or more cards overclocked too much, causing Wattman to reset the driver to default settings.
For me running Afterburner all the time for mining leads to more instability of the system. I do set the overclocking settings for my rigs in a config file directly in the miner. See the example below but change the settings for your configuration:

Code:
# -powlim 0,0,75,0,0,0,0,0

 -tt 65
 -ttj 80
 -ttmem 83


 -mt 0,1,2,2,0,0,1,1,1
 -vmr 25,25,70,70,0,15,25,35,25

 -straps 1,1,3,3,1,1,1,1,1

# -vmt1 25
# -vmt2 20
# -vmt3 0

# -rxboost 1

 -cclock 1100,1100,1100,1100,1100,1100,1100,1300,1100
 -cvddc 850,800,900,850,850,850,800,1000,850
 -mclock 2100,2050,2150,2150,2025,2025,2050,1950,2075
 -mvddc 750,800,750,750,0,750,800,800,750

You can read the Readme file in the miner's directory to how to set these parameters.

To find which card is overclocked too much look for invalid shares or look in the log file which card is not mining before the drivers get reset to default.

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It looks good to me but here are the best settings in HiveOS for that XFX RX 6700 XT.Give them a try and see how it goes

Core clock-1300 Mhz
Core voltage 950 mv
Memory clock 1075 Mhz
Memory voltage 950 mv
Fan speed:Whatever works best for you.



Thank you so much again for working on this issue.

I've tried the setting you mentioned but the card I set with them didn't start mining until I changed the Memory voltage back to 1250mV. The HIVEOS help guide said this parameter should be kept in a range of 1250-1350 mV.



Also, the power consumption went few watts up. It's no big deal, but with lowering the profit is better to have lower watts in long run.



So in conclusion, I will stick with the setting I had before since they worked with just a few issues until I find time to reinstall Windows, or we get to release PM5.7.

Fans, I just leave them on automatic control by the miner with set target temperatures on core and memory.
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Hey all,

I am facing an issue with my rig running 5.6d on Win 10.

My cards are 2xRX580, a 1660, a 3060 and finally an RX5700 GT.

I am using afterburner to set voltages, clocks etc. as setting through AMD catalyst had been causing voltages for the RX580 cards to reset and them to run very hot.

However, the RX5700 keeps crashing the amd driver. I have first tried running the rig with that card disabled for hours on different configurations (I will describe them bellow) and everything was fine so the issue has been isolated and seems to lie with that card. My assumption was that catalyst/afterburner are conficting again, causing the card to change clock/voltage settings which in return causes it to crash.

I have tried with 21.5.1, 21.4.1, 21.3.2 which are supported on 5.6d and an older drive (do not recall version) which I was using with 5.6c. The driver uninstalls are done with DDU and I have tried installing driver only (no catalyst suit) when that option was available or deleting catalyst folder when it was not (could not find an way to uninstall catalyst only). I should note that with the previous way of running things, i.e. configure AMD cards from Catalyst and Nvidia cards from afterburner was rather stable.

Any ideas what is going on here or of a way to firmly lock power/clock settings for the cards? If you believe this is not the issue, could you please suggest any other things to troubleshoot and/or a known stable driver for RX5700 GT? I should note the card itself is fine, tried working with it (connect to it with DP) and it was working without issues.
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It looks good to me but here are the best settings in HiveOS for that XFX RX 6700 XT.Give them a try and see how it goes

Core clock-1300 Mhz
Core voltage 950 mv
Memory clock 1075 Mhz
Memory voltage 950 mv
Fan speed:Whatever works best for you.

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Hi, I have a mixed rig with RTX 3070, RX 5700xt, RX6700xt, and RX470 running it under HIVEOS. For few days it was running stable with no invalid shares with Phoenixminer 5.6d until last night. When woke up this morning I found it keeps restarting for a couple of hours and the RX 6700s didn't start mining. Then I had to downgrade the miner to v PM5.5c to get the rig running with the same overclocking settings. Now the rig is still running with 5.5c but the hashrate for the RX6700s varies by 2-3 Mh/s up and down and these cards produced some invalid shares over time.
What is the reason to get V 5.6d crashing with the RX6700s under HIVEOS?

What were your overclocking settings before the crash?
It helps us identify if there is any problem with DAG recreation as sometimes AMD cards the 6000 series have problems with DAG recreation or it maybe simply a driver update needed.Make sure to use these settings for the RX 6700 XT.

Core clock 1050
Memory clock 1075 on Linux since you are running Hive OS

This would also narrow down the power consumption to 120-130 watt and run at 47 Mhsh for the RX 6700 XT.However without seeing your overclock settings we cannot identify the problem.
The restart every couple of hours points me to directly narrowing down the problem to DAG recreation and bad overclock settings.Also does the rig restarts with 5.5c,the version 5.5c is old and not stable enough for the big navi GPU-s so eventually you will run into problems with that too,it would be better to try and solve the RX 6700 XT problem.




Thank you very much for looking at the problem.
Here is a picture of my settings:



Basically, I mine on Windows but switched this rig because my drivers crashed a couple of weeks after I added the RX 6700s to the rig.
 First I used PM5.6d in HIVEOS but I got the same crash and the RX 6700s stopped working causing the rig to restart every few minutes.
Then someone from HIVE told me that PM 5.6d does not work with RX 6700s in HIVE and I need to use PM 5.5c or a different miner.
A week ago after I updated HIVEOS with a version that they said to have new kernels I give it a try to PM5.6d again and it worked few days good until the RX6700s stopped work again and the rig started restarting every few minutes again.
When PM5.6d worked I had the same settings as I have now with the PM5.5c but the hashrate on the RX 6700s was 47.07 Mh/s stable with no invalid shares.
P.s. Since the last restart yesterday I did not get any invalid shares but before that, I were had about 2% invalid shares with PM5.5c on the RX 6700s. Also with PM5.5c the hashrate for the RX 6700s vary between low 45 Mh/s to high 47 Mh/s.
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Hi, I have a mixed rig with RTX 3070, RX 5700xt, RX6700xt, and RX470 running it under HIVEOS. For few days it was running stable with no invalid shares with Phoenixminer 5.6d until last night. When woke up this morning I found it keeps restarting for a couple of hours and the RX 6700s didn't start mining. Then I had to downgrade the miner to v PM5.5c to get the rig running with the same overclocking settings. Now the rig is still running with 5.5c but the hashrate for the RX6700s varies by 2-3 Mh/s up and down and these cards produced some invalid shares over time.
What is the reason to get V 5.6d crashing with the RX6700s under HIVEOS?

What were your overclocking settings before the crash?
It helps us identify if there is any problem with DAG recreation as sometimes AMD cards the 6000 series have problems with DAG recreation or it maybe simply a driver update needed.Make sure to use these settings for the RX 6700 XT.

Core clock 1050
Memory clock 1075 on Linux since you are running Hive OS

This would also narrow down the power consumption to 120-130 watt and run at 47 Mhsh for the RX 6700 XT.However without seeing your overclock settings we cannot identify the problem.
The restart every couple of hours points me to directly narrowing down the problem to DAG recreation and bad overclock settings.Also does the rig restarts with 5.5c,the version 5.5c is old and not stable enough for the big navi GPU-s so eventually you will run into problems with that too,it would be better to try and solve the RX 6700 XT problem.


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Hi, I have a mixed rig with RTX 3070, RX 5700xt, RX6700xt, and RX470 running it under HIVEOS. For few days it was running stable with no invalid shares with Phoenixminer 5.6d until last night. When woke up this morning I found it keeps restarting for a couple of hours and the RX 6700s didn't start mining. Then I had to downgrade the miner to v PM5.5c to get the rig running with the same overclocking settings. Now the rig is still running with 5.5c but the hashrate for the RX6700s varies by 2-3 Mh/s up and down and these cards produced some invalid shares over time.
What is the reason to get V 5.6d crashing with the RX6700s under HIVEOS?
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I was wondering. Is there a way to let the miner mine for wallet A for 23hours a day and mine the remaining hour to wallet B? Some sort of devfee trick.

You could set up 2 different bat files or config files and create a bat file with a timer that would run for 23 hours and then close the first instance and open a new one with a different --config command
I think that it could be pretty simple if he would be use some task scheduler. Standard scheduler from Windows (Control Panel -> System and Security -> Administrative Tools -> Schedule tasks) or cron on any Linux distro would be enough. Simply run the scripts for the miners on schedule and set in them the search and finish of the previously running script. I hope it help.
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The new beta version is finally ready. You can download PhoenixMiner 5.7a from here:

Remember guys this is a FAKE post.
Reported to moderator.

I don't think anyone cares anymore. Even the dev's don't show up here to take care of anything except on an
extremely rare day. Dev's are worthless now that they're all multi millionaires. Just get prepared to be
left hanging in the near future.


Wow..arent we an ingrate.  

Feel free to build a competitive miner…im sure it will be great (not).


Everything I said is true and the proof is right here in the posts.
They have all but disappeared.

Let me clarify.

I was not referring to the fake links that many of us here report regularly.  But you sure are good at calling out devs with your ingratius comments.  Maybe look into your attitude on that.   PM has provided an excellent miner and all you can do is complain the devs dont care or do anything.  Until you can provde a better piece of code you write yourself, you are best off not complaining about those who do.  Its very small of you .  The scammers are always here but they are not PM.  You have poor respect for devs who have done way more for mining than you will EVER.


You can bite me.
You don't even have enough intelligence to fully understand a simple post, so your comments to me are just ignorant trash.
Never I said the miner wasn't good or that I could or even wanted to write one you dummy.
I stand by what I said again. They are NOW worthless. They haven't made a decent improvement in a year or more.
They have only managed to barely keep up with driver changes. They never attempt to answer anyone's issues or make the miner better.
Hey, we made them all millionaires so now they just set back and suck in the money. Soon they will completely disappear and they will
continue to get paid as long as people just keep supplying the dev fee. That could last for years, but they won't be around except to
sell the coins they are accumulating.
Wise up dummy and just look at what they do.

 


You agree then you have never contributed anything except a toxic attitude.  Great.
Now move along go find your better miner as others have suggested.  As for the Devs they have upheld thier part of the bargain yet you complain.  In the end you have managed to post 143 times and havent even managed a single merit post.  You need to spend time reflecting on that…apparently if you never post again…nothing of value will be lost in this community.  

That is the cold hard fact.
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You can bite me.
You don't even have enough intelligence to fully understand a simple post, so your comments to me are just ignorant trash.
Never I said the miner wasn't good or that I could or even wanted to write one you dummy.
I stand by what I said again. They are NOW worthless. They haven't made a decent improvement in a year or more.
They have only managed to barely keep up with driver changes. They never attempt to answer anyone's issues or make the miner better.
Hey, we made them all millionaires so now they just set back and suck in the money. Soon they will completely disappear and they will
continue to get paid as long as people just keep supplying the dev fee. That could last for years, but they won't be around except to
sell the coins they are accumulating.
Wise up dummy and just look at what they do.

LoL, so why do you waste your and our time if all you said is true and proven!? Just get off and find a better and more updated miner and leave as dummys alone....
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The new beta version is finally ready. You can download FakeMiner 5.7a from here:

Just another malicious fakeware, of course
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You can bite me.
You don't even have enough intelligence to fully understand a simple post, so your comments to me are just ignorant trash.
Never I said the miner wasn't good or that I could or even wanted to write one you dummy.
I stand by what I said again. They are NOW worthless. They haven't made a decent improvement in a year or more.
They have only managed to barely keep up with driver changes. They never attempt to answer anyone's issues or make the miner better.
Hey, we made them all millionaires so now they just set back and suck in the money. Soon they will completely disappear and they will
continue to get paid as long as people just keep supplying the dev fee. That could last for years, but they won't be around except to
sell the coins they are accumulating.
Wise up dummy and just look at what they do.

You think that the devs have any moderator power in this thread? They don't. The best we can do is report those constant scam posts which is a fairly easy thing to do.
They are fairly active when they make releases, even replies to other users questions.
Most questions posted here doesn't need answers because they were already answered somewhere in the thread or people don't give enough information to solve the issue.
And when there is a legit questions the users themselves tries to help.
Phoenix Miner is as good as it can get. Devs don't owe us a thing.
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