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Quote from: FontSeli on July 26, 2020, 09:01:44 AM

Quote from: FlightyPouch on July 25, 2020, 07:31:35 PM

They will really go beyond laws so that they could just gamble. I think this is the reason why other people are taking advantage of it and making places they could meet. I guess that is the reason why the government are just allowing casinos to function so that they could also get taxes from their vices.

Smart governments understand that banning something is bad for people, because people will do it illegally

That's not always the case

Drugs are strictly illegal and for the right reasons, even if some people are using them anyway. Moreover, if they were not made illegal while their sale wasn't a severe criminal offence, the majority of people would be using them with devastating consequences. In this way, banning something is not always bad for people. Casinos are borderline in this regard, and that's also the reason why they are banned in some countries and only allowed in special zones in other countries

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Quote from: Rikafip on July 26, 2020, 07:52:34 AM

I experienced that many times when working in casinos, gamblers explicitly asking for more drinks, and even getting violent if you refuse.

When they are drunk, they can use violence to force the bartender to give them more drinks. They said that they need more drinks to make them focus on getting the win. But that is what happens in the physical casino, but we will not get that experience on online gambling because we never meet with the drunk gamblers.

Most of the casinos have high security system where you can find guards everywhere, its not a bar or club so people who seems misbehaving will be kicked out or even will be completely banned from playing in that casinos.So the people who get violent with any workers unless they wagered huge amount in that casino have high chance of getting kicked out.

I guess so. The owner will prevent people who want to mess up the casino by hiring security. Usually, the security will warn people who want to try, but if they don't want to follow the rule, that will be the time for them to be kicked out. No matter how much they wagered on that casino, if they don't follow the rule, they will not allow coming to that place again.

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When they are drunk, they can use violence to force the bartender to give them more drinks. They said that they need more drinks to make them focus on getting the win. But that is what happens in the physical casino, but we will not get that experience on online gambling because we never meet with the drunk gamblers.

That is one of the reason why most of the gamblers are still preferring physical casinos, that is to have physical interaction with their friends, and the vibes that they could feel when playing is boosted if they also have drinks to enjoy. I just want to highlight that not all gamblers are violent when they are asking for drinks, maybe there are some that is frustrated because of their losses. If that is the case, maybe these gamblers who turns out to be violent could enjoy gambling at home, they can also buy drinks to enjoy playing without even hurting bartenders and creating chaos inside the casino.

Maybe that is what they feel when they still come to the physical casinos. They can get that experience with their friends, and they can playing the games together while they can also drink and eat something. Yes, I agree that not all gamblers are violent because they know that they come to the casino to playing gambling games and enjoy the games. The casino itself will always watch the gamblers and trying to secure the place from the violent.

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When they are drunk, they can use violence to force the bartender to give them more drinks. They said that they need more drinks to make them focus on getting the win. But that is what happens in the physical casino, but we will not get that experience on online gambling because we never meet with the drunk gamblers.

That is one of the reason why most of the gamblers are still preferring physical casinos, that is to have physical interaction with their friends, and the vibes that they could feel when playing is boosted if they also have drinks to enjoy. I just want to highlight that not all gamblers are violent when they are asking for drinks, maybe there are some that is frustrated because of their losses. If that is the case, maybe these gamblers who turns out to be violent could enjoy gambling at home, they can also buy drinks to enjoy playing without even hurting bartenders and creating chaos inside the casino.

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Casinos are created to earn money, to take money from their customers.

Given that all games in the casino have a negative expectation, all that is necessary for the successful operation of the casino is to keep the client in the building for as long as possible, and then the math will do its job.

Some casinos act ingeniously and treat their customers with alcohol for free, which leads to even more relaxation and greater losses, respectively.

That's how good the casino owners plan everything, giving the luxuries to each gamblers who visited the place and let them to feel good.

If gamblers get the comforts they'll bring more gamblers with them and the house will again benefits with this gamblers money, the design
of each gambling house is to generate money. Only few lucky gamblers can go out with huge winnings.

They would really invest on that since they do know that in the end of the day they do really have that smiling face and a full pocket. They would set out all of the possible

factors that would give out the extreme comfort and convenience for those people who do play into the place which do really makes them feel welcome and cozy but

they didnt know that its just part of the plan to extract on every penny that they do had. Grin

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Quote from: Rikafip on July 26, 2020, 07:52:34 AM

I experienced that many times when working in casinos, gamblers explicitly asking for more drinks, and even getting violent if you refuse.

When they are drunk, they can use violence to force the bartender to give them more drinks. They said that they need more drinks to make them focus on getting the win. But that is what happens in the physical casino, but we will not get that experience on online gambling because we never meet with the drunk gamblers.

Most of the casinos have high security system where you can find guards everywhere, its not a bar or club so people who seems misbehaving will be kicked out or even will be completely banned from playing in that casinos.So the people who get violent with any workers unless they wagered huge amount in that casino have high chance of getting kicked out.

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Quote from: FlightyPouch on July 25, 2020, 07:31:35 PM

They will really go beyond laws so that they could just gamble. I think this is the reason why other people are taking advantage of it and making places they could meet. I guess that is the reason why the government are just allowing casinos to function so that they could also get taxes from their vices.

Smart governments understand that banning something is bad for people, because people will do it illegally. It is much easier to resolve this and establish strict controls. Of course, it is bad when dependent people appear because of casinos, but let them play in regular casinos rather than play in illegal ones.

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Quote from: Shasha80 on July 25, 2020, 06:41:13 PM

Indeed the scary fact of physical casinos is that they will do all kinds of ways so that we spend the money we have there.
And go home without bringing anything, then makes us more addicted and want to continue playing in the physical casinos

It's not just casinos giving free drinks, snacks and various other stuff to their high rollers to keep them playing, but high rollers themselves expect those kind of things, and if not given, they will see that a mistreating and might not wanna come back and move their "business" elsewhere.

I experienced that many times when working in casinos, gamblers explicitly asking for more drinks, and even getting violent if you refuse.

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Quote from: Shasha80 on July 25, 2020, 06:41:13 PM

Indeed the scary fact of physical casinos is that they will do all kinds of ways so that we spend the money we have there.
And go home without bringing anything, then makes us more addicted and want to continue playing in the physical casinos
without us knowing.Unfortunately I realize this after losing all the money I have, for that reason I think online casinos are better.

This depends on how much you've won really.

You can still go home with your winnings but if they knew you've won a lot, they would offer you lounges or rooms sometimes drinks to stall you in the casino or to get back some of it. This is just their tactics since at the end of the day, it is still business.

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Quote from: FontSeli on July 25, 2020, 06:37:47 PM

Quote from: FlightyPouch on July 25, 2020, 08:43:57 AM

Well, if they really wanted to gamble I guess they will really find a way to do so. People should really manage the money they are spending especially if that is in gambling since casinos will be happier spending their money there. Some of the people here are even doing cockfighting outside arenas which is illegal here and since it is pandemic but people are srill doing it.

You have spoken well about the human need for gambling. If a person likes it and is used to this feeling, then even during the ban of games, as now due to the pandemic, they will look for a place to play. So it is very good that there is an online casino otherwise such people would have to play in underground casinos.

They will really go beyond laws so that they could just gamble. I think this is the reason why other people are taking advantage of it and making places they could meet. I guess that is the reason why the government are just allowing casinos to function so that they could also get taxes from their vices.

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Indeed the scary fact of physical casinos is that they will do all kinds of ways so that we spend the money we have there.
And go home without bringing anything, then makes us more addicted and want to continue playing in the physical casinos
without us knowing.Unfortunately I realize this after losing all the money I have, for that reason I think online casinos are better.

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Quote from: FlightyPouch on July 25, 2020, 08:43:57 AM

Well, if they really wanted to gamble I guess they will really find a way to do so. People should really manage the money they are spending especially if that is in gambling since casinos will be happier spending their money there. Some of the people here are even doing cockfighting outside arenas which is illegal here and since it is pandemic but people are srill doing it.

You have spoken well about the human need for gambling. If a person likes it and is used to this feeling, then even during the ban of games, as now due to the pandemic, they will look for a place to play. So it is very good that there is an online casino otherwise such people would have to play in underground casinos.

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Quote from: radjie on July 24, 2020, 09:55:22 PM

all the rules, security strategies, player movements can certainly be watched closely in physical casinos so there is no cheating in gambling and also requires us to continue playing until our money is drained. In my opinion, if someone who is not accustomed to entering a gambling house or physical casino mentioned by Op to play, is the same as being trapped into the red zone must come into play and must have the courage to spend the money he has. except for newcomers who are looking for fun and entertainment with the situation and facilities available in it without hoping to go home with a victory

It’s not really about courage. When you come to a casino, you are not operating with money, but with chips that you receive in exchange for money.
This is done solely to make it easier for you to part with the chips. When you hold cash in your hands, you understand its value, when a chip is on the table, you treat it more leniently.

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If you look globally, casinos can be attributed to bad things, because as you said, it ruins the lives of some people, and as we know most people are not successful in casino games. In addition, here you can add the fact that people who lose in a casino become temporarily unable to provide for themselves, their family, as well as pay for services and taxes, of course, everything depends on the degree of wealth of the individual. All this leads us to an even greater degree of deterioration of affairs locally around each individual, and globally between all of them within the framework of a separate state and, if you look above, the world. Add money laundering and other delights with which it is connected here, we will get a far from unambiguous result.

There are many things that destroy people's lives and do it very quickly. For example, if you become addicted to alcohol, you can stop being a normal person. Everything is good in moderation. You need to know this and strive for it. Many people have lost their property and families due to their addiction to casinos. However, this does not mean that the casinos should be closed and denied access to all people.

That is right. Usually people would just ask why not just close casinos when there are a lot of people addicted to gambling. There are a lot of reasons for that but the main one is that it gives huge taxes to the government that they can use to improve or develop a country. Another thing is that they are always warned to do things moderately, to be responsible so they should not blame it on casinos.

It's easy to make a decision and ban something. However, you should keep in mind that if you ban official casinos, underground illegal casinos may soon start appearing.
An excellent example is the time of prohibition in the United States. Then, too, they tried to ban alcohol and we all know what it led to.

Well, if they really wanted to gamble I guess they will really find a way to do so. People should really manage the money they are spending especially if that is in gambling since casinos will be happier spending their money there. Some of the people here are even doing cockfighting outside arenas which is illegal here and since it is pandemic but people are srill doing it.

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Quote from: FontSeli on July 14, 2020, 05:51:43 PM

It's simple. When you go to a bar you know that you will spend money there. In return, you will get good emotions from socializing with friends and drinking. I go to the casino the same way. However, in the casino, I still have a chance that the "bartender" will return my money and in a larger amount than I gave him)

This is about perspective, if you play a game with low house edge and you play the basic strategy then you can play there for a long time without losing too much money and yet get some perks like free drinks, as such the fun you get out of the casino is way higher than what you are paying for, however this makes several assumptions, you can play a gambling game with high enough skill and you can control your emotions when a bad streak happens and for the most part this is not true for most players and that is when the fun goes away very rapidly.

Casino regulars do exactly as you say. They are in no hurry to spend all their money. They make small bets, often move between tables, and drink free alcohol. In a word, they have fun spending their time.

In fact this is a way to distinguish an experimented gambler from someone that is not used to play at the casino, when I frequented physical casinos I noticed that those that were regulars there took a very slow approach to betting and were very methodical, why? Because they had no rush, they wanted to get the most out of their experience at the casino, but when you saw someone making big bets and moving from game to game at a fast speed more often than not it was someone inexperienced that thought that losing a lot of money at the casino in the fastest way possible was the way to get the most out of their casino experience.

There are casino regulars who make big bets often and many times. They just have a lot of money and they can afford it. They also have a lot of alcohol in their veins and they decided to show that they are rich. I've seen people like that, too. They can easily lose a good new car in one night. However, most casino players do not bet much and try to stretch their bets for a longer period of time.

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Quote from: fiulpro on June 16, 2020, 02:04:06 AM

This video actually showed me why online ones are better.
Tricks that casinos use :

https://youtu.be/MZ1yhmhbucc

To be honest, this video is nothing special, and most of things mentioned are common sense, and not stuff that "casinos doesn't want you to know". Like it is obvious that there are bunch of camera in casinos, they don't hide that at all, and bunch of stuff are just generalizations, like high ATM fees or releasing lavander smell to relax the gamblers (honestly never experienced that and I visited quite a few casinos).

While I do like online casinos too and they do have some advantages (they usually have higher RTP), I still prefer brick&mortar ones, simply due the atmosphere there, it's more fun, especially if you are there with a couple of friends.

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all the rules, security strategies, player movements can certainly be watched closely in physical casinos so there is no cheating in gambling and also requires us to continue playing until our money is drained. In my opinion, if someone who is not accustomed to entering a gambling house or physical casino mentioned by Op to play, is the same as being trapped into the red zone must come into play and must have the courage to spend the money he has. except for newcomers who are looking for fun and entertainment with the situation and facilities available in it without hoping to go home with a victory

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Quote from: FontSeli on July 20, 2020, 02:01:05 PM

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Quote from: FontSeli on July 14, 2020, 05:51:43 PM

It's simple. When you go to a bar you know that you will spend money there. In return, you will get good emotions from socializing with friends and drinking. I go to the casino the same way. However, in the casino, I still have a chance that the "bartender" will return my money and in a larger amount than I gave him)

This is about perspective, if you play a game with low house edge and you play the basic strategy then you can play there for a long time without losing too much money and yet get some perks like free drinks, as such the fun you get out of the casino is way higher than what you are paying for, however this makes several assumptions, you can play a gambling game with high enough skill and you can control your emotions when a bad streak happens and for the most part this is not true for most players and that is when the fun goes away very rapidly.

Casino regulars do exactly as you say. They are in no hurry to spend all their money. They make small bets, often move between tables, and drink free alcohol. In a word, they have fun spending their time.

In fact this is a way to distinguish an experimented gambler from someone that is not used to play at the casino, when I frequented physical casinos I noticed that those that were regulars there took a very slow approach to betting and were very methodical, why? Because they had no rush, they wanted to get the most out of their experience at the casino, but when you saw someone making big bets and moving from game to game at a fast speed more often than not it was someone inexperienced that thought that losing a lot of money at the casino in the fastest way possible was the way to get the most out of their casino experience.

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Quote from: FlightyPouch on July 23, 2020, 04:34:46 PM

Quote from: FontSeli on July 22, 2020, 09:16:59 AM

Quote from: bitcoinst on July 21, 2020, 08:50:40 AM

If you look globally, casinos can be attributed to bad things, because as you said, it ruins the lives of some people, and as we know most people are not successful in casino games. In addition, here you can add the fact that people who lose in a casino become temporarily unable to provide for themselves, their family, as well as pay for services and taxes, of course, everything depends on the degree of wealth of the individual. All this leads us to an even greater degree of deterioration of affairs locally around each individual, and globally between all of them within the framework of a separate state and, if you look above, the world. Add money laundering and other delights with which it is connected here, we will get a far from unambiguous result.

There are many things that destroy people's lives and do it very quickly. For example, if you become addicted to alcohol, you can stop being a normal person. Everything is good in moderation. You need to know this and strive for it. Many people have lost their property and families due to their addiction to casinos. However, this does not mean that the casinos should be closed and denied access to all people.

That is right. Usually people would just ask why not just close casinos when there are a lot of people addicted to gambling. There are a lot of reasons for that but the main one is that it gives huge taxes to the government that they can use to improve or develop a country. Another thing is that they are always warned to do things moderately, to be responsible so they should not blame it on casinos.

Taxes play a big role in such cases due to which government would not like to stop earning from it by not allowing the casinos to operate. It is upto every person to know their limits and contain themselves because there are many other things as well from which we can get addicted to it. But gambling is quite easy to get addicted because people look at it as an easy money-making machine.

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Quote from: FlightyPouch on July 23, 2020, 04:34:46 PM

Quote from: FontSeli on July 22, 2020, 09:16:59 AM

Quote from: bitcoinst on July 21, 2020, 08:50:40 AM

If you look globally, casinos can be attributed to bad things, because as you said, it ruins the lives of some people, and as we know most people are not successful in casino games. In addition, here you can add the fact that people who lose in a casino become temporarily unable to provide for themselves, their family, as well as pay for services and taxes, of course, everything depends on the degree of wealth of the individual. All this leads us to an even greater degree of deterioration of affairs locally around each individual, and globally between all of them within the framework of a separate state and, if you look above, the world. Add money laundering and other delights with which it is connected here, we will get a far from unambiguous result.

There are many things that destroy people's lives and do it very quickly. For example, if you become addicted to alcohol, you can stop being a normal person. Everything is good in moderation. You need to know this and strive for it. Many people have lost their property and families due to their addiction to casinos. However, this does not mean that the casinos should be closed and denied access to all people.

That is right. Usually people would just ask why not just close casinos when there are a lot of people addicted to gambling. There are a lot of reasons for that but the main one is that it gives huge taxes to the government that they can use to improve or develop a country. Another thing is that they are always warned to do things moderately, to be responsible so they should not blame it on casinos.

It's easy to make a decision and ban something. However, you should keep in mind that if you ban official casinos, underground illegal casinos may soon start appearing.
An excellent example is the time of prohibition in the United States. Then, too, they tried to ban alcohol and we all know what it led to.

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Quote from: Ucy on July 10, 2020, 03:48:43 AM

Would have been ok if those they get to stay longer are benefitting positively while spending their time on games. The benefit should be mutual, and not one way thing or just for the casinos. This is one of the reasons I think most games should be redesign in such a way that the players benefit positively while spending longer time than is necessary on them

Well said, but it seems impossible to me. The casino must make a profit, it comes from the loss of players. If players win, the casino will not make a profit, which means that it will not be able to pay taxes, rent, staff, and so on. In this case, the entire casino system should be redesigned, say, into food delivery. In that case, everything wins, but then it will no longer be a casino.

The casino ^ Includes online casinos.
I think it's possible. Games like dice could be resigned alittle to include very educational/beneficial/good materials. Maybe build the dice in an educational way and use it as a reward/incentive system to get players to learn and win random gifts while learning. This is one of few examples

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