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Quote from: FontSeli on July 22, 2020, 09:16:59 AM

Quote from: bitcoinst on July 21, 2020, 08:50:40 AM

If you look globally, casinos can be attributed to bad things, because as you said, it ruins the lives of some people, and as we know most people are not successful in casino games. In addition, here you can add the fact that people who lose in a casino become temporarily unable to provide for themselves, their family, as well as pay for services and taxes, of course, everything depends on the degree of wealth of the individual. All this leads us to an even greater degree of deterioration of affairs locally around each individual, and globally between all of them within the framework of a separate state and, if you look above, the world. Add money laundering and other delights with which it is connected here, we will get a far from unambiguous result.

There are many things that destroy people's lives and do it very quickly. For example, if you become addicted to alcohol, you can stop being a normal person. Everything is good in moderation. You need to know this and strive for it. Many people have lost their property and families due to their addiction to casinos. However, this does not mean that the casinos should be closed and denied access to all people.

That is right. Usually people would just ask why not just close casinos when there are a lot of people addicted to gambling. There are a lot of reasons for that but the main one is that it gives huge taxes to the government that they can use to improve or develop a country. Another thing is that they are always warned to do things moderately, to be responsible so they should not blame it on casinos.

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Quote from: Ucy on July 10, 2020, 03:48:43 AM

Would have been ok if those they get to stay longer are benefitting positively while spending their time on games. The benefit should be mutual, and not one way thing or just for the casinos. This is one of the reasons I think most games should be redesign in such a way that the players benefit positively while spending longer time than is necessary on them

Well said, but it seems impossible to me. The casino must make a profit, it comes from the loss of players. If players win, the casino will not make a profit, which means that it will not be able to pay taxes, rent, staff, and so on. In this case, the entire casino system should be redesigned, say, into food delivery. In that case, everything wins, but then it will no longer be a casino.

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Quote from: bitcoinst on July 21, 2020, 08:50:40 AM

If you look globally, casinos can be attributed to bad things, because as you said, it ruins the lives of some people, and as we know most people are not successful in casino games. In addition, here you can add the fact that people who lose in a casino become temporarily unable to provide for themselves, their family, as well as pay for services and taxes, of course, everything depends on the degree of wealth of the individual. All this leads us to an even greater degree of deterioration of affairs locally around each individual, and globally between all of them within the framework of a separate state and, if you look above, the world. Add money laundering and other delights with which it is connected here, we will get a far from unambiguous result.

There are many things that destroy people's lives and do it very quickly. For example, if you become addicted to alcohol, you can stop being a normal person. Everything is good in moderation. You need to know this and strive for it. Many people have lost their property and families due to their addiction to casinos. However, this does not mean that the casinos should be closed and denied access to all people.

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Not really because the clone site can look like the original site that can make them confusing to play gambling.
I think online gambling is already booming because I see in some advertisement which promoting the gambling website, but I think that the gambling website is accepting fiat.
But I think the crypto gambling website already appears in some advertisement, so that can make people curious, and they can join because crypto is a new thing for them.
When there is more advertisement about crypto gambling or fiat gambling, people will be excited to join because that will be entertainment for them in the lockdown or the new normal.

I don't really find any crypto gambling related ads on social media or Youtube like platforms from the official ads only I had seen poker sites and apps on various youtube ads that is why I said people already moved to online casinos with fiat so physical casnios will take time to establish their online community and get advertise them.

I don't say that the crypto gambling site is shown on social media or Youtube because I am sure that any gambling material will be banned in that site, and there is no chance for the gambling site to appear.
But if you browse on the other website, you will find some crypto gambling will show as the advertisement, so there is a chance for people to visit on the crypto gambling site.
There will be more crypto gambling sites that will appear because the site can promote on many websites, there is a chance for them to get more members.

Google is now approving crypto related ads for sure even they approve crypto giveaway scam ads. Angry

SO the gambling sites are not yet decided to promote them on Google I guess.And random banner ads on websites is really not secure, it might end up into a scam/clone site of legit ones so if someone wants to try gambling crypto site then they have to enter from search engine directly to the official website.

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Quote from: deisik on July 21, 2020, 06:36:12 AM

Quote from: Ucy on July 21, 2020, 04:36:03 AM

I think it depends on whether what makes you happy is good or bad. That's why it's important we derived our happiness from good things alone. There are certain fruits and vegetables that lighten ones mood and create a happy feeling. Fruits/vegs are generally good for our bodies especially when consumed the right way. They do other good things to our bodies beside creating that happy mood. Or they have more advantages than disadvantages/side-effects. The disadvantages are normally very little or very negligible

Becoming a vegetarian was a big missed steak

I think we can make it even easier to see the difference between the good and the bad. The good is everything that makes you happy or at least happier in the long term (preferably, for lifetime). On the other hand, the bad is anything which undermines your long-term wellbeing (and happiness). In this way, drugs are bad even if they can make you happy for a while. Casinos (since we are talking about them here) can be both depending on our personal inclinations and attitudes. They can ruin one's life, but they can also make one happier for offering enjoyment and fun (with a bit of adrenaline)

If you look globally, casinos can be attributed to bad things, because as you said, it ruins the lives of some people, and as we know most people are not successful in casino games. In addition, here you can add the fact that people who lose in a casino become temporarily unable to provide for themselves, their family, as well as pay for services and taxes, of course, everything depends on the degree of wealth of the individual. All this leads us to an even greater degree of deterioration of affairs locally around each individual, and globally between all of them within the framework of a separate state and, if you look above, the world. Add money laundering and other delights with which it is connected here, we will get a far from unambiguous result.

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Quote from: Pamadar on July 21, 2020, 07:05:38 AM

Quote from: South Park on July 20, 2020, 12:40:53 PM

Quote from: FontSeli on July 14, 2020, 05:51:43 PM

It's simple. When you go to a bar you know that you will spend money there. In return, you will get good emotions from socializing with friends and drinking. I go to the casino the same way. However, in the casino, I still have a chance that the "bartender" will return my money and in a larger amount than I gave him)

This is about perspective, if you play a game with low house edge and you play the basic strategy then you can play there for a long time without losing too much money and yet get some perks like free drinks,.

Experienced and wise offshores gamblers really enjoy this perks with freebies while playing inside their favorite land based casinos.

If you look carefully, the game is not so free. You will not drink a lot of free drinks, and to play normally you will need to bet often. And no matter how much you save money, you will spend at least a few hundred. Only with experience can a person learn to reduce their spending on the game.

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Quote from: South Park on July 20, 2020, 12:40:53 PM

Quote from: FontSeli on July 14, 2020, 05:51:43 PM

It's simple. When you go to a bar you know that you will spend money there. In return, you will get good emotions from socializing with friends and drinking. I go to the casino the same way. However, in the casino, I still have a chance that the "bartender" will return my money and in a larger amount than I gave him)

This is about perspective, if you play a game with low house edge and you play the basic strategy then you can play there for a long time without losing too much money and yet get some perks like free drinks,.

Experienced and wise offshores gamblers really enjoy this perks with freebies while playing inside their favorite land based casinos.

Quote from: South Park on July 20, 2020, 12:40:53 PM

as such the fun you get out of the casino is way higher than what you are paying for, however this makes several assumptions, you can play a gambling game with high enough skill and you can control your emotions when a bad streak happens and for the most part this is not true for most players and that is when the fun goes away very rapidly.

If you do know how to control yourself then you are good to go enjoying your stay, but when something bad happened and you
are not good handling it, that will add risk to your bankroll. It's always best to keep in mind
that enjoyment will be filled up if you honestly can control yourself while inside the house.

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Quote from: Ucy on July 21, 2020, 04:36:03 AM

I think it depends on whether what makes you happy is good or bad. That's why it's important we derived our happiness from good things alone. There are certain fruits and vegetables that lighten ones mood and create a happy feeling. Fruits/vegs are generally good for our bodies especially when consumed the right way. They do other good things to our bodies beside creating that happy mood. Or they have more advantages than disadvantages/side-effects. The disadvantages are normally very little or very negligible

Becoming a vegetarian was a big missed steak

I think we can make it even easier to see the difference between the good and the bad. The good is everything that makes you happy or at least happier in the long term (preferably, for lifetime). On the other hand, the bad is anything which undermines your long-term wellbeing (and happiness). In this way, drugs are bad even if they can make you happy for a while. Casinos (since we are talking about them here) can be both depending on our personal inclinations and attitudes. They can ruin one's life, but they can also make one happier for offering enjoyment and fun (with a bit of adrenaline)

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Quote from: deisik on July 17, 2020, 08:36:21 AM

Quote from: Ucy on July 17, 2020, 03:58:31 AM

Quote from: deisik on July 16, 2020, 12:45:01 PM

Rather, it looks more like a rush (as in getting high from drugs or weed). When you are losing money and start to chase losses, this can hardly be construed as fun anymore. And that should be used as a fine line to distinguish between real entertainment and when it turns into an obsession (read, you mustn't cross it)

Well I guess something that makes one happy, or gives enjoyment can be considered fun

Drugs can also make one happy

Even though the effect wouldn't be lasting, and in the end you will have to continually use them just to feel more or less normal again. Would you call it fun? I guess, no. In this fashion, we can't consider being high as being happy or offering true enjoyment. Yes, casinos can offer fun and enjoyment but that depends on you and your attitudes. Put shortly, when you get hooked, it is no longer fun

Ofcourse.
I think it depends on whether what makes you happy is good or bad. That's why it's important we derived our happiness from good things alone. There are certain fruits and vegetables that lighten ones mood and create a happy feeling. Fruits/vegs are generally good for our bodies especially when consumed the right way. They do other good things to our bodies beside creating that happy mood. Or they have more advantages than disadvantages/side-effects. The disadvantages are normally very little or very negligible

This is unlike lots of synthetic drugs and other bad things that create the happy feeling. They typically have more disadvantages than advantages, and most likely killing their users gradually. They are bad.

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Quote from: South Park on July 20, 2020, 12:40:53 PM

Quote from: FontSeli on July 14, 2020, 05:51:43 PM

It's simple. When you go to a bar you know that you will spend money there. In return, you will get good emotions from socializing with friends and drinking. I go to the casino the same way. However, in the casino, I still have a chance that the "bartender" will return my money and in a larger amount than I gave him)

This is about perspective, if you play a game with low house edge and you play the basic strategy then you can play there for a long time without losing too much money and yet get some perks like free drinks, as such the fun you get out of the casino is way higher than what you are paying for, however this makes several assumptions, you can play a gambling game with high enough skill and you can control your emotions when a bad streak happens and for the most part this is not true for most players and that is when the fun goes away very rapidly.

Casino regulars do exactly as you say. They are in no hurry to spend all their money. They make small bets, often move between tables, and drink free alcohol. In a word, they have fun spending their time.

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I guess there could be nothing there in physical casino to decode because when you're seeing all their activities from their business point of view then you can understand their business model and we cannot do anything about them unless they are not breaching any of legal thing.

Probably the term "decode" is being used here with different sense like we can go for studying what a physical casino is doing to make their customers to be playing with them rather than just assuming like they are trying to deceive gambler for the sake of profit making. When a physical casino is being operated as per government law and then I guess we do not have anything to decode with them, right?

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Quote from: South Park on July 20, 2020, 12:40:53 PM

Quote from: FontSeli on July 14, 2020, 05:51:43 PM

It's simple. When you go to a bar you know that you will spend money there. In return, you will get good emotions from socializing with friends and drinking. I go to the casino the same way. However, in the casino, I still have a chance that the "bartender" will return my money and in a larger amount than I gave him)

This is about perspective, if you play a game with low house edge and you play the basic strategy then you can play there for a long time without losing too much money and yet get some perks like free drinks, as such the fun you get out of the casino is way higher than what you are paying for, however this makes several assumptions, you can play a gambling game with high enough skill and you can control your emotions when a bad streak happens and for the most part this is not true for most players and that is when the fun goes away very rapidly.

The chance that you will become more aggressive than you think, at first it's true that you can handle risk and you can continue enjoying your game.

But in some instances, there's still situations that losing streak will comes up and hit you much deeper, those who are really good in controlling emotion

can skip this but those who are not, expect to lose more than you think that you can let go.

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Quote from: FontSeli on July 14, 2020, 05:51:43 PM

It's simple. When you go to a bar you know that you will spend money there. In return, you will get good emotions from socializing with friends and drinking. I go to the casino the same way. However, in the casino, I still have a chance that the "bartender" will return my money and in a larger amount than I gave him)

This is about perspective, if you play a game with low house edge and you play the basic strategy then you can play there for a long time without losing too much money and yet get some perks like free drinks, as such the fun you get out of the casino is way higher than what you are paying for, however this makes several assumptions, you can play a gambling game with high enough skill and you can control your emotions when a bad streak happens and for the most part this is not true for most players and that is when the fun goes away very rapidly.

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Quote from: jrrsparkles on July 18, 2020, 01:15:10 PM

Quote from: traderethereum on July 18, 2020, 05:37:50 AM

Not really because the clone site can look like the original site that can make them confusing to play gambling.
I think online gambling is already booming because I see in some advertisement which promoting the gambling website, but I think that the gambling website is accepting fiat.
But I think the crypto gambling website already appears in some advertisement, so that can make people curious, and they can join because crypto is a new thing for them.
When there is more advertisement about crypto gambling or fiat gambling, people will be excited to join because that will be entertainment for them in the lockdown or the new normal.

I don't really find any crypto gambling related ads on social media or Youtube like platforms from the official ads only I had seen poker sites and apps on various youtube ads that is why I said people already moved to online casinos with fiat so physical casnios will take time to establish their online community and get advertise them.

I don't say that the crypto gambling site is shown on social media or Youtube because I am sure that any gambling material will be banned in that site, and there is no chance for the gambling site to appear.
But if you browse on the other website, you will find some crypto gambling will show as the advertisement, so there is a chance for people to visit on the crypto gambling site.
There will be more crypto gambling sites that will appear because the site can promote on many websites, there is a chance for them to get more members.

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I ask myself, don't antivirus protect us from these malicious websites?

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Quote from: jrrsparkles on July 18, 2020, 04:25:59 AM

Quote from: bitcoinst on July 18, 2020, 04:14:19 AM

Quote from: Twinkledoe on July 17, 2020, 05:57:59 PM

That may actually be the next project of these physical casinos, create their own online sites and setting up/managing it would not be hard on their end. So yes, online gambling will boom in no time. They can get their players easily as they already have their own patrons so they will just send a message to these loyal patrons that they have online site and they are on the way.

However, this is a rather laborious process. Just as when moving from one place to another, we risk losing some things, so when moving customers offline to online there is a risk that they will be lost. When a large casino announces the creation of an online cell, a lot of scam clones appear that will disorient and lure some customers to themselves. And given that the level of preparation for working with web applications is different for everyone, the percentage of trapped clients can be quite high.

I don't think most people will be trapped into clone sites if the casinos create their official online site and invite everyone from their physical casino itself but it is not going to happen in near future so there people might already moved to fiat or crypto online gambling sites to tackle lockdown boredom.

I disagree, if you don't bookmark your favorite online casinos, and just used Google to search or type it, chances are you might end on a clone site that looks like exactly the same as the legit one. There are people who fall for this one and hackers or criminals are really that good creating this fake site with attacks like typo squatting and puny code attacks.

So everyone should be very careful as online gaming is booming and so is the criminals targeting us. And gamblers should know how to protect our account as well and practice safe security.

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Quote from: jrrsparkles on July 18, 2020, 01:15:10 PM

Quote from: traderethereum on July 18, 2020, 05:37:50 AM

Quote from: jrrsparkles on July 18, 2020, 04:25:59 AM

Quote from: bitcoinst on July 18, 2020, 04:14:19 AM

Quote from: Twinkledoe on July 17, 2020, 05:57:59 PM

That may actually be the next project of these physical casinos, create their own online sites and setting up/managing it would not be hard on their end. So yes, online gambling will boom in no time. They can get their players easily as they already have their own patrons so they will just send a message to these loyal patrons that they have online site and they are on the way.

However, this is a rather laborious process. Just as when moving from one place to another, we risk losing some things, so when moving customers offline to online there is a risk that they will be lost. When a large casino announces the creation of an online cell, a lot of scam clones appear that will disorient and lure some customers to themselves. And given that the level of preparation for working with web applications is different for everyone, the percentage of trapped clients can be quite high.

I don't think most people will be trapped into clone sites if the casinos create their official online site and invite everyone from their physical casino itself but it is not going to happen in near future so there people might already moved to fiat or crypto online gambling sites to tackle lockdown boredom.

Not really because the clone site can look like the original site that can make them confusing to play gambling.
I think online gambling is already booming because I see in some advertisement which promoting the gambling website, but I think that the gambling website is accepting fiat.
But I think the crypto gambling website already appears in some advertisement, so that can make people curious, and they can join because crypto is a new thing for them.
When there is more advertisement about crypto gambling or fiat gambling, people will be excited to join because that will be entertainment for them in the lockdown or the new normal.

I don't really find any crypto gambling related ads on social media or Youtube like platforms from the official ads only I had seen poker sites and apps on various youtube ads that is why I said people already moved to online casinos with fiat so physical casnios will take time to establish their online community and get advertise them.

There's no problem for establishing there casino online if they have existing users on physical world since everything will follow once their past user settled and knows them very well it just they need to promote them self to gather new players but I don't think it will take look especially if they offer good bonuses and promotions to their gamblers.

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Quote from: traderethereum on July 18, 2020, 05:37:50 AM

Quote from: jrrsparkles on July 18, 2020, 04:25:59 AM

Quote from: bitcoinst on July 18, 2020, 04:14:19 AM

Quote from: Twinkledoe on July 17, 2020, 05:57:59 PM

That may actually be the next project of these physical casinos, create their own online sites and setting up/managing it would not be hard on their end. So yes, online gambling will boom in no time. They can get their players easily as they already have their own patrons so they will just send a message to these loyal patrons that they have online site and they are on the way.

However, this is a rather laborious process. Just as when moving from one place to another, we risk losing some things, so when moving customers offline to online there is a risk that they will be lost. When a large casino announces the creation of an online cell, a lot of scam clones appear that will disorient and lure some customers to themselves. And given that the level of preparation for working with web applications is different for everyone, the percentage of trapped clients can be quite high.

I don't think most people will be trapped into clone sites if the casinos create their official online site and invite everyone from their physical casino itself but it is not going to happen in near future so there people might already moved to fiat or crypto online gambling sites to tackle lockdown boredom.

Not really because the clone site can look like the original site that can make them confusing to play gambling.
I think online gambling is already booming because I see in some advertisement which promoting the gambling website, but I think that the gambling website is accepting fiat.
But I think the crypto gambling website already appears in some advertisement, so that can make people curious, and they can join because crypto is a new thing for them.
When there is more advertisement about crypto gambling or fiat gambling, people will be excited to join because that will be entertainment for them in the lockdown or the new normal.

I don't really find any crypto gambling related ads on social media or Youtube like platforms from the official ads only I had seen poker sites and apps on various youtube ads that is why I said people already moved to online casinos with fiat so physical casnios will take time to establish their online community and get advertise them.

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Quote from: jrrsparkles on July 18, 2020, 04:25:59 AM

I don't think most people will be trapped into clone sites if the casinos create their official online site and invite everyone from their physical casino itself

If the owner will announce it as official gaming site online, those regular offshore gamblers will surely follow it and begin to play inside.

Quote from: jrrsparkles on July 18, 2020, 04:25:59 AM

but it is not going to happen in near future so there people might already moved to fiat or crypto online gambling sites to tackle lockdown boredom.

Some of those gamers might already doing this to kill boresome, people who really loves playing will find it ways to continue to gamble.

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