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Quote from: Ucy on July 16, 2020, 02:54:09 AM

Quote from: FontSeli on July 14, 2020, 03:29:09 PM

I have long noticed that everything is better done with a good mood. It works much better this way.
I don't understand why I should go to a casino and feel sad about losing money. After all, you lose money, roughly speaking, pay for the game, drink and atmosphere, and you still lose a good mood.

The problem with spending money to have fun in casinos (rather than being profitable) is that it can become habitual if you don't have any place to have thesame level of fun. It becomes a disaster spending alot of money and time in casino just to have fun... this is basically what betting/gaming addiction is... you keep losing money and refuse to quit due to the fun. Now imagine you're having the fun while being consistently profitable in your bets/games, that will be tolerable

Dude, I don't go to the casino every weekend. I do it well if once every few months. Thank you for worrying about me. But I assure you, I am in control of the process and do not suffer from a casino addiction.

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That may actually be the next project of these physical casinos, create their own online sites and setting up/managing it would not be hard on their end. So yes, online gambling will boom in no time. They can get their players easily as they already have their own patrons so they will just send a message to these loyal patrons that they have online site and they are on the way.

However, this is a rather laborious process. Just as when moving from one place to another, we risk losing some things, so when moving customers offline to online there is a risk that they will be lost. When a large casino announces the creation of an online cell, a lot of scam clones appear that will disorient and lure some customers to themselves. And given that the level of preparation for working with web applications is different for everyone, the percentage of trapped clients can be quite high.

I don't think most people will be trapped into clone sites if the casinos create their official online site and invite everyone from their physical casino itself but it is not going to happen in near future so there people might already moved to fiat or crypto online gambling sites to tackle lockdown boredom.

Not really because the clone site can look like the original site that can make them confusing to play gambling.
I think online gambling is already booming because I see in some advertisement which promoting the gambling website, but I think that the gambling website is accepting fiat.
But I think the crypto gambling website already appears in some advertisement, so that can make people curious, and they can join because crypto is a new thing for them.
When there is more advertisement about crypto gambling or fiat gambling, people will be excited to join because that will be entertainment for them in the lockdown or the new normal.

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Quote from: Twinkledoe on July 17, 2020, 05:57:59 PM

That may actually be the next project of these physical casinos, create their own online sites and setting up/managing it would not be hard on their end. So yes, online gambling will boom in no time. They can get their players easily as they already have their own patrons so they will just send a message to these loyal patrons that they have online site and they are on the way.

However, this is a rather laborious process. Just as when moving from one place to another, we risk losing some things, so when moving customers offline to online there is a risk that they will be lost. When a large casino announces the creation of an online cell, a lot of scam clones appear that will disorient and lure some customers to themselves. And given that the level of preparation for working with web applications is different for everyone, the percentage of trapped clients can be quite high.

I don't think most people will be trapped into clone sites if the casinos create their official online site and invite everyone from their physical casino itself but it is not going to happen in near future so there people might already moved to fiat or crypto online gambling sites to tackle lockdown boredom.

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Quote from: Twinkledoe on July 17, 2020, 05:57:59 PM

That may actually be the next project of these physical casinos, create their own online sites and setting up/managing it would not be hard on their end. So yes, online gambling will boom in no time. They can get their players easily as they already have their own patrons so they will just send a message to these loyal patrons that they have online site and they are on the way.

However, this is a rather laborious process. Just as when moving from one place to another, we risk losing some things, so when moving customers offline to online there is a risk that they will be lost. When a large casino announces the creation of an online cell, a lot of scam clones appear that will disorient and lure some customers to themselves. And given that the level of preparation for working with web applications is different for everyone, the percentage of trapped clients can be quite high.

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Quote from: triqs02 on July 15, 2020, 11:46:40 AM

i've read about most of these tricks. however, i prefer online casinos mostly because of convenience

This year I think it would continue to be online itself, as the cases have not stopped and still continue to rise leading to fear among people to just go out and gamble in the casinos.

What more likely to happen is most physical casino will get web developers to design their own online casino, money would not be a problem for them as they don't pay electricity that much these past months. So I think there will be more of competition among these casino to attract players, more bonuses and more promotions to expect. Gambling won't stop.

Quote from: bitcoinisbest on July 16, 2020, 03:48:30 AM

Though you can wear mask, maintain physical distance but when it can be done online at your ease people may prefer that for the time being before everything gets normal and casinos would work the full fledge.

New normal may do but that does not avoid them from the virus, virus can easily attach to surfaces, they are playing cards or slots there are still a high chance of them getting the virus from any thing in physical casino.

That may actually be the next project of these physical casinos, create their own online sites and setting up/managing it would not be hard on their end. So yes, online gambling will boom in no time. They can get their players easily as they already have their own patrons so they will just send a message to these loyal patrons that they have online site and they are on the way.

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We can read huge wins from slot machine but its rate to find high consecutive wins so the probability of people keep winning on slot machine is rare so we can't find those gamblers were kicked from casinos. Wink

Getting kicked in a casino would only happen if a gambler are caught cheating, it's very clear, you can cheat but don't get caught so you'll not pay the prize.

We all know that casinos are into profit, but there are also gamblers who are winning most of the time but I don't think casinos would not mind that as long as they'll be profitable in overall. When there are winners that means casinos are legit, they only win because of their advantage and that would attract gamblers as well.

Casinos will start noticing if you are winning in a streak on luck-based game and if you are cheating then it won't take too long to identify it from their side.But chances of cheating in luck based game is less to none that is why gambling sites are in profits for their lifetime.

I agree with you. You can be kicked out of the casino even if you play fair but you are lucky to win. Just like reinsurance. After all, it is not known how you manage to do this, maybe you are cheating, and maybe you are just lucky, but there are no guarantees. If at least something is suspicious, they can easily expel you, and even deprive them of money. Often, you’ll be allowed to withdraw money anyway, but they won’t let you in at the casino.

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Quote from: bitcoinisbest on July 16, 2020, 03:48:30 AM

Quote from: triqs02 on July 15, 2020, 11:46:40 AM

i've read about most of these tricks. however, i prefer online casinos mostly because of convenience

This year I think it would continue to be online itself, as the cases have not stopped and still continue to rise leading to fear among people to just go out and gamble in the casinos.

What more likely to happen is most physical casino will get web developers to design their own online casino, money would not be a problem for them as they don't pay electricity that much these past months. So I think there will be more of competition among these casino to attract players, more bonuses and more promotions to expect. Gambling won't stop.

Quote from: bitcoinisbest on July 16, 2020, 03:48:30 AM

Though you can wear mask, maintain physical distance but when it can be done online at your ease people may prefer that for the time being before everything gets normal and casinos would work the full fledge.

New normal may do but that does not avoid them from the virus, virus can easily attach to surfaces, they are playing cards or slots there are still a high chance of them getting the virus from any thing in physical casino.

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Quote from: Ucy on July 17, 2020, 03:58:31 AM

Well I guess something that makes one happy, or gives enjoyment can be considered fun. That's basically what alot of games or casinos give their customers. This is why some or many get hooked for a long time to keep enjoying the games even though they may not be profitable. The problem with this is that if those kinds of games aren't developing people the right way, or making them to be profitable/productive, they become problems...one of the problems this casuses is addiction.

If the casino can make their customers happy and satisfy, that means, the casino succeeds to bring pleasure to their customers, and they will come again and again.
Yes, many people become hooked because of the services from the casino, and sooner or later, that person will become addicted to gambling, and he will always gamble in that casino.
Gambling will not make them productive or profitable, but maybe that will work for a few people who got luck from playing gambling.
And when that person becomes addicted, it will be too late for them to leave the casino unless they have somebody else who can help them to get out of the casino.

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Quote from: Ucy on July 17, 2020, 03:58:31 AM

Quote from: deisik on July 16, 2020, 12:45:01 PM

Rather, it looks more like a rush (as in getting high from drugs or weed). When you are losing money and start to chase losses, this can hardly be construed as fun anymore. And that should be used as a fine line to distinguish between real entertainment and when it turns into an obsession (read, you mustn't cross it)

Well I guess something that makes one happy, or gives enjoyment can be considered fun

Drugs can also make one happy

Even though the effect wouldn't be lasting, and in the end you will have to continually use them just to feel more or less normal again. Would you call it fun? I guess, no. In this fashion, we can't consider being high as being happy or offering true enjoyment. Yes, casinos can offer fun and enjoyment but that depends on you and your attitudes. Put shortly, when you get hooked, it is no longer fun

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Quote from: Ucy on July 17, 2020, 03:58:31 AM

Quote from: deisik on July 16, 2020, 12:45:01 PM

Quote from: Ucy on July 16, 2020, 02:54:09 AM

The problem with spending money to have fun in casinos (rather than being profitable) is that it can become habitual if you don't have any place to have thesame level of fun. It becomes a disaster spending alot of money and time in casino just to have fun... this is basically what betting/gaming addiction is... you keep losing money and refuse to quit due to the fun. Now imagine you're having the fun while being consistently profitable in your bets/games, that will be tolerable

I wouldn't call that fun

Rather, it looks more like a rush (as in getting high from drugs or weed). When you are losing money and start to chase losses, this can hardly be construed as fun anymore. And that should be used as a fine line to distinguish between real entertainment and when it turns into an obsession (read, you mustn't cross it)

Well I guess something that makes one happy, or gives enjoyment can be considered fun.

actually they are Blinding players with more fun and freebies just to stay focus in gambling and soon become addicted.

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That's basically what alot of games or casinos give their customers. This is why some or many get hooked for a long time to keep enjoying the games even though they may not be profitable. The problem with this is that if those kinds of games aren't developing people the right way, or making them to be profitable/productive, they become problems...one of the problems this casuses is addiction.

Thats why we must always consider checking our self first before engaging in gambling because for sure?you will be addicted if not ready on what will be the outcome.

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Quote from: deisik on July 16, 2020, 12:45:01 PM

Quote from: Ucy on July 16, 2020, 02:54:09 AM

The problem with spending money to have fun in casinos (rather than being profitable) is that it can become habitual if you don't have any place to have thesame level of fun. It becomes a disaster spending alot of money and time in casino just to have fun... this is basically what betting/gaming addiction is... you keep losing money and refuse to quit due to the fun. Now imagine you're having the fun while being consistently profitable in your bets/games, that will be tolerable

I wouldn't call that fun

Rather, it looks more like a rush (as in getting high from drugs or weed). When you are losing money and start to chase losses, this can hardly be construed as fun anymore. And that should be used as a fine line to distinguish between real entertainment and when it turns into an obsession (read, you mustn't cross it)

Well I guess something that makes one happy, or gives enjoyment can be considered fun. That's basically what alot of games or casinos give their customers. This is why some or many get hooked for a long time to keep enjoying the games even though they may not be profitable. The problem with this is that if those kinds of games aren't developing people the right way, or making them to be profitable/productive, they become problems...one of the problems this casuses is addiction.

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Quote from: leea-1334 on July 10, 2020, 07:04:06 AM

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Pretty controversial moment. When you go to a physical casino you have a certain amount of money on hand, after losing that you will either have to go for a new amount or stop the game.

When you play in an online casino, all your money is with you, and in theory you can gamble until you spend it all. Being at home is too great a temptation to recoup, and making a deposit will take all a couple of minutes.

Not really,,, some offline casinos give a line of credit to their regular customers, either formally through electronic card which I have seen,,, or informally where the guy busts and asks if he can "borrow" a bit. Double owed or nothing. That is worse than crypto casinos which give you zero credit.

Not every casino will give you such a loan. Where are the guarantees that you will return them? Obviously, such services will be provided only to VIP customers who have been using casino services for a very long time.
The casino will make a loan only if it is sure that the client still has money, somewhere else. But this kind of customer rarely runs out of money.
People are often in a desperate state in a casino, which means borrowing money to such people is an extremely high risk, which would involve a very small number of casinos.
An “unofficial” loan from a security guard or casino employee is likely, but the question is how much is safe.

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Quote from: Ucy on July 16, 2020, 02:54:09 AM

The problem with spending money to have fun in casinos (rather than being profitable) is that it can become habitual if you don't have any place to have thesame level of fun. It becomes a disaster spending alot of money and time in casino just to have fun... this is basically what betting/gaming addiction is... you keep losing money and refuse to quit due to the fun. Now imagine you're having the fun while being consistently profitable in your bets/games, that will be tolerable

I wouldn't call that fun

Rather, it looks more like a rush (as in getting high from drugs or weed). When you are losing money and start to chase losses, this can hardly be construed as fun anymore. And that should be used as a fine line to distinguish between real entertainment and when it turns into an obsession (read, you mustn't cross it)

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Quote from: triqs02 on July 15, 2020, 11:46:40 AM

i've read about most of these tricks. however, i prefer online casinos mostly because of convenience

This year I think it would continue to be online itself, as the cases have not stopped and still continue to rise leading to fear among people to just go out and gamble in the casinos. Though you can wear mask, maintain physical distance but when it can be done online at your ease people may prefer that for the time being before everything gets normal and casinos would work the full fledge. Also, tricks this could be done in online as well in the casinos as well with the machines which we may not know about it.

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Quote from: FontSeli on July 14, 2020, 03:29:09 PM

I have long noticed that everything is better done with a good mood. It works much better this way.
I don't understand why I should go to a casino and feel sad about losing money. After all, you lose money, roughly speaking, pay for the game, drink and atmosphere, and you still lose a good mood.

The problem with spending money to have fun in casinos (rather than being profitable) is that it can become habitual if you don't have any place to have thesame level of fun. It becomes a disaster spending alot of money and time in casino just to have fun... this is basically what betting/gaming addiction is... you keep losing money and refuse to quit due to the fun. Now imagine you're having the fun while being consistently profitable in your bets/games, that will be tolerable

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Quote from: FontSeli on July 14, 2020, 05:51:43 PM

It's simple. When you go to a bar you know that you will spend money there. In return, you will get good emotions from socializing with friends and drinking. I go to the casino the same way. However, in the casino, I still have a chance that the "bartender" will return my money and in a larger amount than I gave him)

what kind of bar ? not all bars need money but some are free and not all times your the one that spend money but your friends too . a casino is different , you go on it for different purpose and why will you expect that a bartender will give you a return for your tip ? lol i find it funny sorry . they are poor too and wont likely gamble and they wont be allowed to gamble even if they wanted too because their only purpose is to work on that establishment . tip real gamblers instead because those were the one that will gave you a good return when they win

Dude, you don't understand humor. In my example, I compared a casino to a bar where you can have a drink with friends. Some casinos give out booze and you pay for it by placing bets. Therefore, a comparison with a bar in a joking form can be made)

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Quote from: FontSeli on July 14, 2020, 03:29:09 PM

I don't understand why I should go to a casino and feel sad about losing money. After all, you lose money, roughly speaking, pay for the game, drink and atmosphere, and you still lose a good mood.

That is how a professional gambler might think but frankly speaking no matter how many times you have lost and you know that you will end up in loss, there is always a feeling like today I am going to walk out as winner and that is what makes you enter a casino. It is right that one is basically paying the fees to casino to entertain them and have fun but at the same time it is not so easy to shrug off the loss you had.

Not everyone is well versed with casinos and players would always feel unhappy with they loose no matter if they already knew it. It is like you are addicted to drugs and you know that once you take them you will have fun for a little while but eventually you gonna loose (health in case of drugs) but you still do it.

You're wrong, I'm not a professional gambler. I just understand the essence of the casino and have no illusions about earning money from playing at the casino.

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Quote from: FontSeli on July 14, 2020, 05:51:43 PM

It's simple. When you go to a bar you know that you will spend money there. In return, you will get good emotions from socializing with friends and drinking. I go to the casino the same way. However, in the casino, I still have a chance that the "bartender" will return my money and in a larger amount than I gave him)

Very clever explanation, I think that's only good if you have the discipline, otherwise you are not going to enjoy if you get addicted or you were too emotional that led you to gamble all your money, this is the risk why some can't see it as a way to socialize with people, its just too risky.

I used to only take a certain amount of money at the casino. Now I have the nerve not to spend more than I planned, even with a full wallet.

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Quote from: imstillthebest on July 15, 2020, 09:57:25 AM

Quote from: FontSeli on July 14, 2020, 05:51:43 PM

It's simple. When you go to a bar you know that you will spend money there. In return, you will get good emotions from socializing with friends and drinking. I go to the casino the same way. However, in the casino, I still have a chance that the "bartender" will return my money and in a larger amount than I gave him)

what kind of bar ? not all bars need money but some are free and not all times your the one that spend money but your friends too . a casino is different , you go on it for different purpose and why will you expect that a bartender will give you a return for your tip ? lol i find it funny sorry . they are poor too and wont likely gamble and they wont be allowed to gamble even if they wanted too because their only purpose is to work on that establishment . tip real gamblers instead because those were the one that will gave you a good return when they win

There are no free bars, maybe you can enter for free but you will still have to pay for drinks one way or the other. Being a night out in a bar without spending any money doesn't seem very realistic. In a casino however the money is made through gambling, so offering free drinks is alright for the casino as they will earn their money back another way.

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Quote from: Kasabus on July 15, 2020, 05:42:33 AM

Quote from: FontSeli on July 14, 2020, 05:51:43 PM

It's simple. When you go to a bar you know that you will spend money there. In return, you will get good emotions from socializing with friends and drinking. I go to the casino the same way. However, in the casino, I still have a chance that the "bartender" will return my money and in a larger amount than I gave him)

Very clever explanation, I think that's only good if you have the discipline, otherwise you are not going to enjoy if you get addicted or you were too emotional that led you to gamble all your money, this is the risk why some can't see it as a way to socialize with people, its just too risky.

That's the point, if you have good mindsets and you are willing to take what it takes, accepting that the money that you are going to use
are already considered as gone before you even started the stress is much lesser, you can keep moving forward
as you are only aiming to enjoy while inside the casino.

The point that you are eager to win and worrying to lose is due to this emotions
it's stressing you especially when greed comes your way and start moving you
from how it wanted you to proceed. End point, losing without enjoying.

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