Pig Farm Investment. 5 % Monthly. Has been running for 6 months. - page 10.

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Quote from: Vod on April 19, 2016, 11:32:56 PM

Quote from: iSimantri on April 19, 2016, 11:07:03 PM

well, thank you for the negatif trust,
but you can see, i never offer 180 % annualy
for monthly there is only 160 % plus principal or for weekly 165 % plus principal annualy.

You can't even do your own math correctly. Undecided

5% monthly is 1.05 to the power of 12 months

1.05 ^ 12 = 179.59% interest.

What? You just took 1.05 and multiplied by 12? You don't even understand how compound interest works... yet you offer it...

Please read at post #1, at Additional information, there is No Compounding.
Compounding is dangerous for me to run long term project. I already explain too when replying this thread.

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Quote from: Vod on April 19, 2016, 11:32:56 PM

Quote from: iSimantri on April 19, 2016, 11:07:03 PM

well, thank you for the negatif trust,
but you can see, i never offer 180 % annualy
for monthly there is only 160 % plus principal or for weekly 165 % plus principal annualy.

You can't even do your own math correctly. Undecided

5% monthly is 1.05 to the power of 12 months

1.05 ^ 12 = 179.59% interest.

What? You just took 1.05 and multiplied by 12? You don't even understand how compound interest works... yet you offer it...

Hold on Vod. He said he was paying the interest monthly so in this case there is no compounding involved.

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Quote from: iSimantri on April 19, 2016, 11:07:03 PM

well, thank you for the negatif trust,
but you can see, i never offer 180 % annualy
for monthly there is only 160 % plus principal or for weekly 165 % plus principal annualy.

You can't even do your own math correctly. Undecided

5% monthly is 1.05 to the power of 12 months

1.05 ^ 12 = 179.59% interest.

What? You just took 1.05 and multiplied by 12? You don't even understand how compound interest works... yet you offer it...

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Quote from: Vod on April 19, 2016, 10:46:38 PM

Crosspost. This is a ponzi.

https://bitcointalksearch.org/topic/m.14600833

well, thank you for the negatif trust,
but you can see, i never offer 180 % annualy
for monthly there is only 160 % plus principal or for weekly 165 % plus principal annualy.

but I understand, your job is to remind investors, and my job is to do what I have to offer to investors.
i'm just try to build my own farm,i'm not being deceitful, only time will tell.

no problem i got negative trust from you, that's an honor for me

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thank you

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Crosspost. This is a ponzi.

https://bitcointalksearch.org/topic/m.14600833

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No offense against the OP but just chilling on your coins will give you a better ROI on your investment due to the halving both before and after. There it is.

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Quote from: mrcash02 on April 19, 2016, 09:41:15 PM

It's a nice business idea. Many people can see your example and try soemething like that. But for invest i think it's very risk. You can be a master animal-breeder, but there is always a chance to bankruptcy and i think this chance doesn't worth the income monthly rate...

Anyway good luck for you, i hope you create your pigs farm and make profit with it.

thank you for replying this thread.
every business have a chance of bankruptcy. that's like 99 % effort and 1 % lucky.
i'm just offering monthly income rate that i can cover for long term, but it all goes back to the type of investor whether he was a moderate or aggressive in investing.

good luck too to you buddy

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It's a nice business idea. Many people can see your example and try soemething like that. But for invest i think it's very risk. You can be a master animal-breeder, but there is always a chance to bankruptcy and i think this chance doesn't worth the income monthly rate...

Anyway good luck for you, i hope you create your pigs farm and make profit with it.

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Quote from: 9akshs9 on April 19, 2016, 10:09:19 AM

I think that "force" a pig to get weight is too hard... there is an high risk of infective disease (than you need antibiotics) .... Pig meat is one of the most economy meat.... I don't know if this could be a nice work... (then wash and work there is really hard....) mmmm

i think every work have his own risk. disease control is part of maintenance cost.
i'm focusing in breeding, not fattening. Fattening need more cost, because they need more feed.
well, whatever the job, if you like it, that will be a nice work Wink

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I think that "force" a pig to get weight is too hard... there is an high risk of infective disease (than you need antibiotics) .... Pig meat is one of the most economy meat.... I don't know if this could be a nice work... (then wash and work there is really hard....) mmmm

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Quote from: Phildo on April 19, 2016, 10:06:10 AM

Where will the money that you use to pay the first week's interest payment come from?

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How i will pay you ?

Because I have to pay monthly, while breeding pigs need time 155 days, so I'll use half the investment to buy and sell piglets.
I will buy piglets from local farmers and sell to piglets collectors. This will give a profit to pay your interest, untill sow began to produce.

buy and sell piglets is a fastest way to get fast profit, profit margin is 5% - 10 % each, this usually take 3 - 7 days process.
but this depend on luck, more can buy, the more profit.
the process like this :
i'm buying piglets from local people who only have 1 or 2 sow, collect piglets and sell them to bigger colector.

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Where will the money that you use to pay the first week's interest payment come from?

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Quote from: netmonk on April 19, 2016, 09:52:50 AM

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Quote from: netmonk on April 19, 2016, 09:42:04 AM

a separated one ?
or it's the initial one being resetted on time frame ?

I mean i invest 1btc (400usd)
after one month
which situation :
2 investments one of 400 11months remaining and one 20 12 months remaining
or one investment of 420 with 12 months remaining ?

investment #1 = $ 400 for 12 month = $ 20 interest every month

at first month you receive $ 20 interest and you decide to re invest.

so we count as new investment and will be like this :

investment #1 = $ 400 and 11 month remaining.
investment #2 = $ 20 and 12 month remaining.

so, you have 2 investment with the payment date is the same every month

Too bad, compound interest on weekly basis give better benefit ~368$

for 400$ invested

yeah

but compound interest too dangerous for long term.

thank you, added to post #1

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Quote from: iSimantri on April 19, 2016, 09:50:58 AM

Quote from: netmonk on April 19, 2016, 09:42:04 AM

a separated one ?
or it's the initial one being resetted on time frame ?

I mean i invest 1btc (400usd)
after one month
which situation :
2 investments one of 400 11months remaining and one 20 12 months remaining
or one investment of 420 with 12 months remaining ?

investment #1 = $ 400 for 12 month = $ 20 interest every month

at first month you receive $ 20 interest and you decide to re invest.

so we count as new investment and will be like this :

investment #1 = $ 400 and 11 month remaining.
investment #2 = $ 20 and 12 month remaining.

so, you have 2 investment with the payment date is the same every month

Too bad, compound interest on weekly basis give better benefit ~368$

for 400$ invested

You should add all those information in the #1 post

I think im not the only curious around !

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Quote from: netmonk on April 19, 2016, 09:42:04 AM

a separated one ?
or it's the initial one being resetted on time frame ?

I mean i invest 1btc (400usd)
after one month
which situation :
2 investments one of 400 11months remaining and one 20 12 months remaining
or one investment of 420 with 12 months remaining ?

investment #1 = $ 400 for 12 month = $ 20 interest every month

at first month you receive $ 20 interest and you decide to re invest.

so we count as new investment and will be like this :

investment #1 = $ 400 and 11 month remaining.
investment #2 = $ 20 and 12 month remaining.

so, you have 2 investment with the payment date is the same every month

the interest will be paid at the same date you make the investment every month.

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a separated one ?
or it's the initial one being resetted on time frame ?

I mean i invest 1btc (400usd)
after one month
which situation :
2 investments one of 400 11months remaining and one 20 12 months remaining
or one investment of 420 with 12 months remaining ?

because without reinvesting, the benefit will be 240$ for 400$ invested 12 months
with reinvesting 5% every month at the end of year the profit is ~318$ [400*(1+0.05)^12-400]

And another question : when the interest payment occur :
- at begining of each month ?
- at anniversary of day of entrance (for exemple i send you today 1btc, you will pay me every 19th of each months)?

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Quote from: netmonk on April 19, 2016, 09:10:21 AM

How and what condition to exit the business?

Let's say i invest 1btc today,

If i want to get it back in 6 months, how do we proceed ?

12 months investment period is for stability, because i use the fund to farming in real world.
pull back the investment plan in the middle of the period would be destabilizing.

so for our common stability, the investment period is 12 months, and can not be withdrawn before maturity.

i'm sorry i forget to write this on the thread.

and for re invest

if you want to invest your interest,that's will count as new investment.

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How and what condition to exit the business?

Let's say i invest 1btc today,

If i want to get it back in 6 months, how do we proceed ?

Also, is it possible to reinvest, instead of receiving monthly/weekly payment ?

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Quote from: xhomerx10 on April 18, 2016, 09:34:25 PM

Well it sounds like you know what you're doing but my fear would be that bitcoin value increases due to the halving and you would be unable to pay unless the pigs similarly increase in value. Now if bitcoin value stays constant or goes down, you'll be fine but I am not expecting this to happen. Perhaps it would be better for you to value it in your local currency but convert to bitcoin as a means of transfer. In this way, fluctuations in bitcoin value wont kill the investment.

yes, you right about this, we will not know what the price of bitcoin next year.

I received your advice. but because we here come from world wide, I prefer to value bitcoin in USD. So this will make it safer than bitcoin fluctuation.

Thank you for your advise.

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Well it sounds like you know what you're doing but my fear would be that bitcoin value increases due to the halving and you would be unable to pay unless the pigs similarly increase in value. Now if bitcoin value stays constant or goes down, you'll be fine but I am not expecting this to happen. Perhaps it would be better for you to value it in your local currency but convert to bitcoin as a means of transfer. In this way, fluctuations in bitcoin value wont kill the investment.

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