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Topic: Pig Farm Investment. 5 % Monthly. Has been running for 6 months. - page 2. (Read 21958 times)

legendary
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So I was googling Simantri to find out what it means - it's some sort of government program that finished up in 2009.  I have a feeling that "pig farm" was dilapidated because the program didn't work and it wasn't actually owned by our friend.  Seems that he really doesn't know how to raise pigs in a frugal manner either.  I think he wasted all the investors money on frivolousness!


 
 Seriously, a simple number tattooed on the pigs lip to establish ownership would have sufficed.  I wonder how much those tats are worth?

 Okay, I realize that satire doesn't transfer well between cultures so... I'm joking about the tattoos and those are not his pigs (to the best of my knowledge).


 Elsartorio.com - was previously owned by iSimantri using the e-mail address temansuteman.gmail.com who also goes by AlitFX on social media.

 [email protected]: is also the email address that is associated with the google account owner (Mani Ta) where iSimantri posted his pig video

 Looks like Vod called another scam before it became apparent.

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My lastest payment is from 21 of october :
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I just love the way people became suddenly ponzy expert, saying afterward "look i was right"

Anyway for a ponzy it's a long one, as far as it runs since april to october (7 months).

I just wish it is not, and that everything has a reason.



Well, everything always have a reason... But I wouldn't like to see this becoming a scam investment also, like all the investors, unfortunelly that is what everyone is seeing now. OP disappeared without trails, that is very strange, it's very normal people start accusing him to be a scammer.

Ponzies usually don't survive for so long time, you are right, but a very famous one survived for about 8 months, HashOcean.
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My lastest payment is from 21 of october :
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I just love the way people became suddenly ponzy expert, saying afterward "look i was right"

Anyway for a ponzy it's a long one, as far as it runs since april to october (7 months).

I just wish it is not, and that everything has a reason.



This is how a ponzi works. The first few investors always get paid. The owner runs off after building some trust and gaining additional investors.
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My lastest payment is from 21 of october :
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I just love the way people became suddenly ponzy expert, saying afterward "look i was right"

Anyway for a ponzy it's a long one, as far as it runs since april to october (7 months).

I just wish it is not, and that everything has a reason.

hero member
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still no reply from OP Huh
You've been scammed, learn from this, and hopefully you will not be scammed again.


This is lesson must be learned by anyone scam incident has been scattered everywhere and we must don't believe on online investment since for me there's totally no real among them and i don't see any site can nor people can give that profit for just waiting, so lets wake up from reality that theres no easy money in this world all need hardwork and efforts, and those offering to good to be true profits and monthly with no basis and proofs of legitemacy is scam.
When i see this thread on the past i could say that its a legitimate one because of the payout that he has given to its investors with proofs and also have videos. If its a ponzi then its really hard to detect it from the very start since the return on monthly basis is not just that high compare to those ponzi sites out there but as ive read OP is not already responding seems it turns to scam or any other reason why OP cant able to reply. Lets wait before we fully decide regarding on this matter.


Those payouts has been used to attract more investors to invest in his false pig farm business and i really think at very first that all he was stated here is only a lie and wants only to run a scam ponzi one,  and how could you afford to wait for more while its quitely long days for not responding to the allegation here? And thats totally the breaking point that he is scam and nothing else added color, thats why we should be carefull since surely another modus  will be made again by scammers.
Its already a scam since he didnt come back to explain such accusation upon him and also some DT already tagged negative trust so this means we could all conclude that hes a scammer and i feel sorry for those investors who fell on his ponzi scheme tactics. Running a pig farm investments seems new to me and i could say all scammer would really find a way to scam people no matter which way as long they could able to victimized people.


And why such people believes on him while its to shaddy to give some profits to their investors while theres no totally strong proof that he own a farm, and maybe those fake proof he shown are just stolen to anothet pig farm Smiley thats why at very first he's totally a scam and just want to run the ponzi game and look at now he'd fleed already and surely 100% that he will not comeback again.
legendary
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still no reply from OP Huh
You've been scammed, learn from this, and hopefully you will not be scammed again.


This is lesson must be learned by anyone scam incident has been scattered everywhere and we must don't believe on online investment since for me there's totally no real among them and i don't see any site can nor people can give that profit for just waiting, so lets wake up from reality that theres no easy money in this world all need hardwork and efforts, and those offering to good to be true profits and monthly with no basis and proofs of legitemacy is scam.
When i see this thread on the past i could say that its a legitimate one because of the payout that he has given to its investors with proofs and also have videos. If its a ponzi then its really hard to detect it from the very start since the return on monthly basis is not just that high compare to those ponzi sites out there but as ive read OP is not already responding seems it turns to scam or any other reason why OP cant able to reply. Lets wait before we fully decide regarding on this matter.


Those payouts has been used to attract more investors to invest in his false pig farm business and i really think at very first that all he was stated here is only a lie and wants only to run a scam ponzi one,  and how could you afford to wait for more while its quitely long days for not responding to the allegation here? And thats totally the breaking point that he is scam and nothing else added color, thats why we should be carefull since surely another modus  will be made again by scammers.
Its already a scam since he didnt come back to explain such accusation upon him and also some DT already tagged negative trust so this means we could all conclude that hes a scammer and i feel sorry for those investors who fell on his ponzi scheme tactics. Running a pig farm investments seems new to me and i could say all scammer would really find a way to scam people no matter which way as long they could able to victimized people.
hero member
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Jack of all trades 💯
still no reply from OP Huh
You've been scammed, learn from this, and hopefully you will not be scammed again.


This is lesson must be learned by anyone scam incident has been scattered everywhere and we must don't believe on online investment since for me there's totally no real among them and i don't see any site can nor people can give that profit for just waiting, so lets wake up from reality that theres no easy money in this world all need hardwork and efforts, and those offering to good to be true profits and monthly with no basis and proofs of legitemacy is scam.
When i see this thread on the past i could say that its a legitimate one because of the payout that he has given to its investors with proofs and also have videos. If its a ponzi then its really hard to detect it from the very start since the return on monthly basis is not just that high compare to those ponzi sites out there but as ive read OP is not already responding seems it turns to scam or any other reason why OP cant able to reply. Lets wait before we fully decide regarding on this matter.


Those payouts has been used to attract more investors to invest in his false pig farm business and i really think at very first that all he was stated here is only a lie and wants only to run a scam ponzi one,  and how could you afford to wait for more while its quitely long days for not responding to the allegation here? And thats totally the breaking point that he is scam and nothing else added color, thats why we should be carefull since surely another modus  will be made again by scammers.
hero member
Activity: 2856
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still no reply from OP Huh
You've been scammed, learn from this, and hopefully you will not be scammed again.


This is lesson must be learned by anyone scam incident has been scattered everywhere and we must don't believe on online investment since for me there's totally no real among them and i don't see any site can nor people can give that profit for just waiting, so lets wake up from reality that theres no easy money in this world all need hardwork and efforts, and those offering to good to be true profits and monthly with no basis and proofs of legitemacy is scam.
When i see this thread on the past i could say that its a legitimate one because of the payout that he has given to its investors with proofs and also have videos. If its a ponzi then its really hard to detect it from the very start since the return on monthly basis is not just that high compare to those ponzi sites out there but as ive read OP is not already responding seems it turns to scam or any other reason why OP cant able to reply. Lets wait before we fully decide regarding on this matter.
hero member
Activity: 2632
Merit: 787
Jack of all trades 💯
still no reply from OP Huh
You've been scammed, learn from this, and hopefully you will not be scammed again.


This is lesson must be learned by anyone scam incident has been scattered everywhere and we must don't believe on online investment since for me there's totally no real among them and i don't see any site can nor people can give that profit for just waiting, so lets wake up from reality that theres no easy money in this world all need hardwork and efforts, and those offering to good to be true profits and monthly with no basis and proofs of legitemacy is scam.
sr. member
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Don't you believe someone can offer 5% interest monthly? It's not impossible. 60% YEARLY isn't an absurd amount.

So you 2.5% interest weekly is an absurd too, because on month it will be 10%! And I see some people offering this amount of interest weekly. OP could work the first year just to build his farm and to pay the investors (if he were a honest person), in the second year he could start manking profit for himself, because the investments were already paid.

Sorry, I think naivy is who thinks too small that can't believe 5% monthly interest is very possible and I would say reasonable...

Well thats the point why you deserve to lose money but yet you still need to lose more cause instead of thinking logical, you are being a stubborn donkey lmao!
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still no reply from OP Huh
You've been scammed, learn from this, and hopefully you will not be scammed again.
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You guys deserved to lose your money if you have been an intelligent investors a pig farm is not possible to give you a monthly payment.   Grin
Glad this turned into scam already.

Lol ok let's not exactly go that far. I wouldn't blame the victim per se, but yes it was pretty obvious. The problem is people thought be cause he actually owned pigs that somehow the high rate of return was achievable. If I start a potato farm and tell you I'll give you 200% ROI in a month you'd be asking me how do you could start your own potato farm lol.

If it's too good to be true it most likely is. This is exactly that situation. The early investors got s few payments and then all of them got screwed. Don't incest if there's no way to get your money back. He can't give you a pig if you live on the other side of the world (not that you'd want one rofl).

That is not the only reason why people invested. He showed a video with a farm pig structure, some pictures also of the farm progress. It wasn't like any other Ponzi scheme with unreal promises and no proofs. 5% monthly can be real and he promised to pay the income relative to the investment cost in dollar. Example: if someone invested 1 Bitcoin when the BTC was in $600, he would pay $30 monthly until the end, doesn't matter the BTC price variations.

Offering 5% monthly (assuming simple interest) is the same as offering a 60% return on investment. If you think that's realistic then you're very naive. If I was running a legitimate business I would offer maybe 5%, 10%, or 15% interest and negotiate from there. I would never give someone 60% interest because I'm not a fool with my money.

Obviously the @op isn't either as he just made payments until he had enough 'invested' to run. Sure he has a pig farm. I have no doubt in my mind. But offering 60% return from the beggining is obviously too good to be true. Why not just go to a loan shark? Oh that's right, because when you don't pay back the loan shark you'll have your kneecaps broken.

Let this be a lesson to anyone reading. Even if it's a legitimate business that doesn't mean high returns are still possible. Who's to say he couldn't get a loan from a bank because he's 100k in debt already? Or he has terrible credit because he doesn't pay people back?

Don't you believe someone can offer 5% interest monthly? It's not impossible. 60% YEARLY isn't an absurd amount.

So you 2.5% interest weekly is an absurd too, because on month it will be 10%! And I see some people offering this amount of interest weekly. OP could work the first year just to build his farm and to pay the investors (if he were a honest person), in the second year he could start manking profit for himself, because the investments were already paid.

Sorry, I think naivy is who thinks too small that can't believe 5% monthly interest is very possible and I would say reasonable...
newbie
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still no reply from OP Huh
legendary
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Still no words from OP so no doubt this have been turned into scam because he is not interested anymore to get more funds as he already had nice amount to do it for himself, that could be very possible reason why he is still out from the scene and people are still waiting to get their investment back.
legendary
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You guys deserved to lose your money if you have been an intelligent investors a pig farm is not possible to give you a monthly payment.   Grin
Glad this turned into scam already.

Lol ok let's not exactly go that far. I wouldn't blame the victim per se, but yes it was pretty obvious. The problem is people thought be cause he actually owned pigs that somehow the high rate of return was achievable. If I start a potato farm and tell you I'll give you 200% ROI in a month you'd be asking me how do you could start your own potato farm lol.

If it's too good to be true it most likely is. This is exactly that situation. The early investors got s few payments and then all of them got screwed. Don't incest if there's no way to get your money back. He can't give you a pig if you live on the other side of the world (not that you'd want one rofl).

That is not the only reason why people invested. He showed a video with a farm pig structure, some pictures also of the farm progress. It wasn't like any other Ponzi scheme with unreal promises and no proofs. 5% monthly can be real and he promised to pay the income relative to the investment cost in dollar. Example: if someone invested 1 Bitcoin when the BTC was in $600, he would pay $30 monthly until the end, doesn't matter the BTC price variations.

Offering 5% monthly (assuming simple interest) is the same as offering a 60% return on investment. If you think that's realistic then you're very naive. If I was running a legitimate business I would offer maybe 5%, 10%, or 15% interest and negotiate from there. I would never give someone 60% interest because I'm not a fool with my money.

Obviously the @op isn't either as he just made payments until he had enough 'invested' to run. Sure he has a pig farm. I have no doubt in my mind. But offering 60% return from the beggining is obviously too good to be true. Why not just go to a loan shark? Oh that's right, because when you don't pay back the loan shark you'll have your kneecaps broken.

Let this be a lesson to anyone reading. Even if it's a legitimate business that doesn't mean high returns are still possible. Who's to say he couldn't get a loan from a bank because he's 100k in debt already? Or he has terrible credit because he doesn't pay people back?
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You guys deserved to lose your money if you have been an intelligent investors a pig farm is not possible to give you a monthly payment.   Grin
Glad this turned into scam already.

Lol ok let's not exactly go that far. I wouldn't blame the victim per se, but yes it was pretty obvious. The problem is people thought be cause he actually owned pigs that somehow the high rate of return was achievable. If I start a potato farm and tell you I'll give you 200% ROI in a month you'd be asking me how do you could start your own potato farm lol.

If it's too good to be true it most likely is. This is exactly that situation. The early investors got s few payments and then all of them got screwed. Don't incest if there's no way to get your money back. He can't give you a pig if you live on the other side of the world (not that you'd want one rofl).

That is not the only reason why people invested. He showed a video with a farm pig structure, some pictures also of the farm progress. It wasn't like any other Ponzi scheme with unreal promises and no proofs. 5% monthly can be real and he promised to pay the income relative to the investment cost in dollar. Example: if someone invested 1 Bitcoin when the BTC was in $600, he would pay $30 monthly until the end, doesn't matter the BTC price variations.
legendary
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You guys deserved to lose your money if you have been an intelligent investors a pig farm is not possible to give you a monthly payment.   Grin
Glad this turned into scam already.

Lol ok let's not exactly go that far. I wouldn't blame the victim per se, but yes it was pretty obvious. The problem is people thought be cause he actually owned pigs that somehow the high rate of return was achievable. If I start a potato farm and tell you I'll give you 200% ROI in a month you'd be asking me how do you could start your own potato farm lol.

If it's too good to be true it most likely is. This is exactly that situation. The early investors got s few payments and then all of them got screwed. Don't incest if there's no way to get your money back. He can't give you a pig if you live on the other side of the world (not that you'd want one rofl).
sr. member
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You guys deserved to lose your money if you have been an intelligent investors a pig farm is not possible to give you a monthly payment.   Grin
Glad this turned into scam already.
legendary
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no replies Shocked Huh

I think this pig has now oinked its last oink. My investment was very small compared to yours, unfortunately it don't look good for any investors.

So am I right to conclude that this is a Ponzi scheme? Is it a right time for me to make a police report? Roll Eyes

You go right ahead. I wish you nothing but luck with that. Everyone knew this was a scam from the start. Just look at the interest rates he promised. Anyways you're all screwed. Next time don't be so greedy.
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If this guy was unable to pay the income for investors, make his farm grow and make profit at same time, he could at least come here to say it and give money back to investors. But his bahavior is unacceptable, until now, our conclusion is that he stolen all the money!

At least you have his face here on this video (caution, he can delete this video any moment!): https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Nni-_V_0_qY

Call the indonesian law forces and denounce him.
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