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How many sow's do you currently have?

currently i only have 1 sow, i'm in rebuild process

How many sow's did already give birth?
And if so how many piglets did they give birth to?

not yet, my sow in pregnant. aged pregnant 69 days, approximate date of birth august 24th to 26th, 2016

If you buy a new Sow ready to mate, how long does after do they give birth? (average, because it's possible they need to mate more than once?).

At least need 14 - 30 days for the adaptation of the place and the food, they will ready to mate.
there is a possibility, but they rarely mate more than once.
In best case,average adaptation 15 days +one time mate + pregnancy 114 days = 129 days since buy.

If 6 piglets cover the cost of all food/medicine for 1 cycle it means every extra piglet will give 'profit' of $40-$50 each.

Yes, price of each piglets in low season average $30 - $40 and in high season average $40 - $50

An investor will buy you 1 Sow for $275
You will let the sow give birth to new piglets. You break even on costs with 6 piglets.
If the Sow gives birth to more than 6 piglets the extra revenue will go to the investor.

The investor has the right on the revenue of 3 full cycles.
The investor will break even once the Sow has given birth to 24 healty piglets. (6 each cycle to cover food and such, and 2 extra each cycle to get the initial investment back).
In best case this would be 3x 4 'profit' piglets of $45 each = $540 total return.

After these 3 cycles the Sow is fully yours and next cycles is full profit for you.
If for some reason the Sow doesn't give birth to 6 healthy piglets in one of the three cycles this won't be rolled over to the new cycle, in this case it's your 'risk' because you paid for the food. The investor on the other hand has less chance to break even because there is atleast 1 cycle with no extra piglets.


Just an idea, what do you think?

That's a good idea, but maybe investors will less interested, because they will get payment in more than 5 month each payment, but if goes well, in best case, they will get 100% profit in 17 month ( 70 % yearly )

In best case, 3 full cycle will need time 160 days x 3 + 15 days adaptation = 495 days ( around 17 month )

If an investor buy me Sow cost $275, that's mean i will cover food +medicine cost for 1st cycle, and next cycle will recover from birht of piglets.

The summarize :

I can accept and implement this idea. But investors should also consider, that they will wait long enough to receive payment.
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How many sow's do you currently have?
How many sow's did already give birth?
And if so how many piglets did they give birth to?

If you buy a new Sow ready to mate, how long does after do they give birth? (average, because it's possible they need to mate more than once?).

If 6 piglets cover the cost of all food/medicine for 1 cycle it means every extra piglet will give 'profit' of $40-$50 each.


I got an idea with which you can probably grow your farm even quicker with less risk on your side.

An investor will buy you 1 Sow for $275
You will let the sow give birth to new piglets. You break even on costs with 6 piglets.
If the Sow gives birth to more than 6 piglets the extra revenue will go to the investor.

The investor has the right on the revenue of 3 full cycles.
The investor will break even once the Sow has given birth to 24 healty piglets. (6 each cycle to cover food and such, and 2 extra each cycle to get the initial investment back).
In best case this would be 3x 4 'profit' piglets of $45 each = $540 total return.

After these 3 cycles the Sow is fully yours and next cycles is full profit for you.
If for some reason the Sow doesn't give birth to 6 healthy piglets in one of the three cycles this won't be rolled over to the new cycle, in this case it's your 'risk' because you paid for the food. The investor on the other hand has less chance to break even because there is atleast 1 cycle with no extra piglets.


Just an idea, what do you think?
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I will donate 0.03 btc if you will name one of the pigs Miss Crypto and post pictures of her adventures Grin

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Nice idea, but I think it's a little bit difficult, because they are naughty and wild.
If i worn name tags "Miss Crypto" around their necks, they will eat the nametag in second  Grin


Cut the text out in paper, than use bio- and animal friendly paint to put it on their back (each side). Should stay on it.

I would also be interested to have my name on a pig for a year or so, and get pictures now and than.
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Can we sponsor a pig to live a full and healthy natural life?

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I think my neighbor would be upset if i let the pig live natural and free outside the cage. They will destroy my neighbor plants.


I will donate 0.03 btc if you will name one of the pigs Miss Crypto and post pictures of her adventures Grin

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Nice idea, but I think it's a little bit difficult, because they are naughty and wild.
If i worn name tags "Miss Crypto" around their necks, they will eat the nametag in second  Grin
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I will donate 0.03 btc if you will name one of the pigs Miss Crypto and post pictures of her adventures Grin
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Can we sponsor a pig to live a full and healthy natural life?
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How are the piggys doing? Can we see more pictures?

hi, the pigs is good and healthy
update with pict

http://imgur.com/llH4ARc

http://imgur.com/wOvtDFk

http://imgur.com/wAX6SJ4

i'm buy again 6 piglets

http://imgur.com/eBEU01f
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How are the piggys doing? Can we see more pictures?
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I hate to ask, but can you post a timestamp with those photos with your username and maybe get all the piglets together?

here are picture with timestamp.

http://imgur.com/KZojEyR

http://imgur.com/uB0rnM1

http://imgur.com/FjMP3zl
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Tomorrow my second payement Smiley
Run run my little piglets
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;)eheh I registered here because of your post.

I love to farm animals Wink


Do you own a boar or you have to rent it or buy semen? I can't see it in your plan
Which race is your sow?
With 1btc from netmonk you bought 2 sow ? Do you have some updated picture?
Actually, to buy 1 sow I have to borrow 0.4btc right?


no, i have no boar, inefficient maintain a boar if have sow leass than 15 sows.
i don't buy semen, i use boar, using semen is not familiar in my area.

about the race, i think already mix from Landrace and Chester.
FYI, my farm is traditional farm, not a company farm, so the race is not so important.

Before i open this thread, i already buy sow and piglets from bank loan as i write in OP.
because so far i only have 1 investor, so the fund i use to food maintain and also buy and sell piglets to cover monthly interest.

you can see video and some pictures in OP, but i also update new picture here

bag of rest procesing tofu  :  http://imgur.com/4thyKiK

pregnant sow : http://imgur.com/G4PlY92

piglets :

http://imgur.com/FLlHLja

http://imgur.com/1Nzns9n

http://imgur.com/RKhuSdz



I hate to ask, but can you post a timestamp with those photos with your username and maybe get all the piglets together?
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;)eheh I registered here because of your post.

I love to farm animals Wink


Do you own a boar or you have to rent it or buy semen? I can't see it in your plan
Which race is your sow?
With 1btc from netmonk you bought 2 sow ? Do you have some updated picture?
Actually, to buy 1 sow I have to borrow 0.4btc right?


no, i have no boar, inefficient maintain a boar if have sow leass than 15 sows.
i don't buy semen, i use boar, using semen is not familiar in my area.

about the race, i think already mix from Landrace and Chester.
FYI, my farm is traditional farm, not a company farm, so the race is not so important.

Before i open this thread, i already buy sow and piglets from bank loan as i write in OP.
because so far i only have 1 investor, so the fund i use to food maintain and also buy and sell piglets to cover monthly interest.

you can see video and some pictures in OP, but i also update new picture here

bag of rest procesing tofu  :  http://imgur.com/4thyKiK

pregnant sow : http://imgur.com/G4PlY92

piglets :

http://imgur.com/FLlHLja

http://imgur.com/1Nzns9n

http://imgur.com/RKhuSdz

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;)eheh I registered here because of your post.

I love to farm animals Wink


Do you own a boar or you have to rent it or buy semen? I can't see it in your plan
Which race is your sow?
With 1btc from netmonk you bought 2 sow ? Do you have some updated picture?
Actually, to buy 1 sow I have to borrow 0.4btc right?
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Nice loan Smiley I lost more than 60kusd in 3 years  farming pigs. Maiz and soya price raised a lot in the last 3 years.Self produced food can be a solution but more than 5 pigs is very hard to mantain. Food production to feed humans is becoming to be a big issue and pigs are in competitions with humans for food.

Building a stable is very expensive if you make reproduction(you will need 20years to recover the costs)
If you only do growing and fattening, you need very good genetic to be profitable, but the good genetic costs will kill your profit too.

Buying pigs from little farmers is even a worst idea as
If they are cheap, you end up with bad(thin, ill, bad genetic) pigs they will not put on weight and  slaughterhouse will not buy them.
If, they are good pigs, they are too expensive to make reselling profitable.

Sorry for my bad english, I will improve it asap

thank you for write your 1st BCT post here in my thread  Smiley

I'm sorry for your lost in farming pig. 2 years ago i'm also facing the same problem, pig feed too expensive and i close my farm.
and currently i'm trying to rebuild again with a small capital.

I agree with you, pig feed is the main key. That's why i use another way to get good feed without decrease the nutrition. If i use maiz and soya, i will not get any profit and will end in loss.

I'm using the rest of the processing tofu and bread skin peeled as a main pig food. These two ingredients are rich in protein and carbohydrates.
And i can buy it cheap. A bag of the rest processing tofu cost around USD 0.5 and enough to feed 1 sow in 1 days ( 2 times feed ). Bread skin peeled cost around USD 0.15 each kg, and each sow i feed them 2 kg each day. Averaging cost for 1 sow in a day is USD 0.8. So in 1 cycle 1 sow cost 155 x USD 0.8 = USD 124. That savings are quite a lot in food cost.

I choose in reproduction for long project, because typical of resident in my area. Usually every household will maintaining at least 2 piglets for fattening. When a great Hindu ceremony comes every 7 month, they sell adult pig, and buy again 2 piglets and always cycle like this. And thanks to our goverment on a policy that prohibits pigs from outside the island went into our island. This make price more stable.

Buying piglets from local farmer is a good choice in my area. Even though we in traditional farming, but the quality of piglets good enough, because the piglets also obtain health care from a veterinarian.

FYI, the farm that i'm running is still small, and i will build it slowly depending on my capital. Thanks to my single investor, netmonk, for the support.

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Nice loan Smiley I lost more than 60kusd in 3 years  farming pigs. Maiz and soya price raised a lot in the last 3 years.Self produced food can be a solution but more than 5 pigs is very hard to mantain. Food production to feed humans is becoming to be a big issue and pigs are in competitions with humans for food.

Building a stable is very expensive if you make reproduction(you will need 20years to recover the costs)
If you only do growing and fattening, you need very good genetic to be profitable, but the good genetic costs will kill your profit too.

Buying pigs from little farmers is even a worst idea as
If they are cheap, you end up with bad(thin, ill, bad genetic) pigs they will not put on weight and  slaughterhouse will not buy them.
If, they are good pigs, they are too expensive to make reselling profitable.

Sorry for my bad english, I will improve it asap
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Your reason for red trust is terrible and doesn't make me feel better at all. You not explaining my his anywhere nearly well enough. Do you think if you walked into a room of serious investors they would take you seriously? I doubt it.

i already explain as clear as i can, and until now, the reason for red trust is not proven.
but this is a free world, everyone is free to talk here.
np if you doubt it.
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Your reason for red trust is terrible and doesn't make me feel better at all. You not explaining my his anywhere nearly well enough. Do you think if you walked into a room of serious investors they would take you seriously? I doubt it.
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Don't be sorry,

the most important is that the adventure continues ! Smiley and everything goes well so far.

One question you can easily answer because this make my friends and coworkers laugh when i explained my little investment:
- what is the market of pork meat in Indonesia, while the country is mostly muslim ?

you right, in Indonesia is mostly muslim, but i live in Bali, island with 90% non muslim and pork meat is the main meat.

todays in bali, the price of adult live pig for meat prices is around IDR 24k  / kg ( USD 1.8 / kg ) and pork meat price around IDR 55k / kg ( USD 4.16 )
this price usually go up around 10 % when there is a Hindu religious ceremony.
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Don't be sorry,

the most important is that the adventure continues ! Smiley and everything goes well so far.

One question you can easily answer because this make my friends and coworkers laugh when i explained my little investment:
- what is the market of pork meat in Indonesia, while the country is mostly muslim ?
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