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legendary
Activity: 1106
Merit: 1006
Lead Blockchain Developer
Heh, there's an original, completely irrelevant analogy.  Never heard that one before.  Remind me next time you get mugged to ask how you didn't see the cliff coming.

Right, because pirate held a gun to your head and forced you to give him your coins. Whose analogy is irrelevant?

Ehhh... the irony.  I think you missed the point?

You had a point?

Did you, by chance, run a PPT?  Is that the hidden land mine I stepped in?
hero member
Activity: 532
Merit: 500
FIAT LIBERTAS RVAT CAELVM
Heh, there's an original, completely irrelevant analogy.  Never heard that one before.  Remind me next time you get mugged to ask how you didn't see the cliff coming.

Right, because pirate held a gun to your head and forced you to give him your coins. Whose analogy is irrelevant?

Ehhh... the irony.  I think you missed the point?

You had a point?
legendary
Activity: 1106
Merit: 1006
Lead Blockchain Developer
Heh, there's an original, completely irrelevant analogy.  Never heard that one before.  Remind me next time you get mugged to ask how you didn't see the cliff coming.

Right, because pirate held a gun to your head and forced you to give him your coins. Whose analogy is irrelevant?

Ehhh... the irony.  I think you missed the point?   Wink
hero member
Activity: 532
Merit: 500
FIAT LIBERTAS RVAT CAELVM
Heh, there's an original, completely irrelevant analogy.  Never heard that one before.  Remind me next time you get mugged to ask how you didn't see the cliff coming.

Right, because pirate held a gun to your head and forced you to give him your coins. Whose analogy is irrelevant?
legendary
Activity: 1106
Merit: 1006
Lead Blockchain Developer
Read what he wrote.

"Meat grinders, get yer meat grinders here! Guaranteed to shred your dick if you put it in there, come and get your meat grinders!"

"Your meat grinder shredded my dick!"

"Yes, sir, that's exactly what I told you it would do."

"Well, then, why would you sell it to me?"

"Why would you buy it?"

"Because several reputable sources (with lots and lots of pussy) told me it was the... best. pussy. evar."

At this point, I will switch from Theymos' carnival barker to my mother:

"If reputable people told you that jumping off a cliff would allow you to fly, would you do it, especially when other people are telling you 'I don't know, man, those rocks down there look pretty sharp.' and 'Hey, dumbass, you can't fly, magic cliff or no.'?"

Furthermore, would you jump off the cliff of the dude who was standing there saying "Yeah, that magic cliff thing is a load of bull. But if you want to, go right ahead."?

Caveat Emptor, people. Shit.

Heh, there's an original, completely irrelevant analogy.  Never heard that one before.  Remind me next time you get mugged to ask how you didn't see the cliff coming.

hero member
Activity: 532
Merit: 500
FIAT LIBERTAS RVAT CAELVM
Read what he wrote.

"Meat grinders, get yer meat grinders here! Guaranteed to shred your dick if you put it in there, come and get your meat grinders!"

"Your meat grinder shredded my dick!"

"Yes, sir, that's exactly what I told you it would do."

"Well, then, why would you sell it to me?"

"Why would you buy it?"

"Because several reputable sources (with lots and lots of pussy) told me it was the... best. pussy. evar."

At this point, I will switch from Theymos' carnival barker to my mother:

"If reputable people told you that jumping off a cliff would allow you to fly, would you do it, especially when other people are telling you 'I don't know, man, those rocks down there look pretty sharp.' and 'Hey, dumbass, you can't fly, magic cliff or no.'?"

Furthermore, would you jump off the cliff of the dude who was standing there saying "Yeah, that magic cliff thing is a load of bull. But if you want to, go right ahead."?

Caveat Emptor, people. Shit.
legendary
Activity: 1106
Merit: 1006
Lead Blockchain Developer
Read what he wrote.

"Meat grinders, get yer meat grinders here! Guaranteed to shred your dick if you put it in there, come and get your meat grinders!"

"Your meat grinder shredded my dick!"

"Yes, sir, that's exactly what I told you it would do."

"Well, then, why would you sell it to me?"

"Why would you buy it?"

"Because several reputable sources (with lots and lots of pussy) told me it was the... best. pussy. evar."
hero member
Activity: 532
Merit: 500
FIAT LIBERTAS RVAT CAELVM
Read what he wrote.

"Meat grinders, get yer meat grinders here! Guaranteed to shred your dick if you put it in there, come and get your meat grinders!"

"Your meat grinder shredded my dick!"

"Yes, sir, that's exactly what I told you it would do."

"Well, then, why would you sell it to me?"

"Why would you buy it?"
hero member
Activity: 812
Merit: 1000
Why is everyone so goddamned happy about pointing out that they "told you so"....  I don't mean to 'pick on you' gene, you are one of many many many people that are saying "if you read my posts....." and I just don't get it?  What is the point?
It's a way to reduce the chances that we have to do this again, and again, and again. The goal is to learn the maximum from this incident that it is possible to learn. And the key thing to learn is that if something looks exactly like a Ponzi, it's almost certainly a Ponzi.


the problem is, even if the size of this community remains constant, the participants are constantly changing.

the people who are on this forum now may have learned their lesson, but this will be a different group of people to those who make up the forum a month / a year from now.
legendary
Activity: 1596
Merit: 1012
Democracy is vulnerable to a 51% attack.
Why is everyone so goddamned happy about pointing out that they "told you so"....  I don't mean to 'pick on you' gene, you are one of many many many people that are saying "if you read my posts....." and I just don't get it?  What is the point?
It's a way to reduce the chances that we have to do this again, and again, and again. The goal is to learn the maximum from this incident that it is possible to learn. And the key thing to learn is that if something looks exactly like a Ponzi, it's almost certainly a Ponzi.
newbie
Activity: 28
Merit: 0
If you bother reading some of my posts, you'll see that I was one of several others who recognized pirate's scam and the pass-throughs for what they obviously were.
Why is everyone so goddamned happy about pointing out that they "told you so"....  I don't mean to 'pick on you' gene, you are one of many many many people that are saying "if you read my posts....." and I just don't get it?  What is the point?
legendary
Activity: 2072
Merit: 1001
On the subject of complicity, I think this bears cross-posting:

Is this why you took part in pirate's ponzi scheme? Because you thought it would be fun? Did you "earn" any "interest" from it?

It was fun, and still is! I have several bets and other deals related to the final outcome, which I'm excited to see resolved (hopefully in my favor). Ponzi schemes are a much more fun way of gambling than Satoshi's Dice, that's for sure.

I did win some BTC, which is rightfully mine. Pirateat40 is guilty of lying about the rules of the game, but the players are innocent. If a casino rigs a game, you wouldn't blame those players who made a profit (even if they may have guessed that the game was rigged) -- you blame the casino.

I never promoted BS&T, and I posted several times that I thought it was a Ponzi.

You see, your honor, I am just the landlord of the crackhouse. Yes, I fully knew what went on there, but my property served only as a "platform."

If I was only worried about morality instead of legality, that's exactly what I'd say. Nothing wrong with a crackhouse as long as there's no violence. I don't advocate doing drugs (I personally don't consume alcohol, nicotine, caffeine, or illegal drugs), but if people want to buy potentially dangerous drugs, that's their business.

This argument is equivalent to whether I should:
- Ban crackhouses entirely on my property. As a proponent of freedom, I would prefer not to do this.
- Determine which crackhouses may add poisons to drugs and ban them or put signs in front of them. This takes extra work and expertise that I'm not willing to deal with.
- Categorize the crackhouses based on how close to market levels their prices are, which may indicate the safety of the drugs sold there.

Wink


There's a lot to answer for around here. It is especially true for some "respected" members.

I see no problem with anything Theymos said there.

Again, Ponzis have been run before on this forum, openly. People then knew what the hell they were getting into and they all ended the same way. You guys are just pissed off because this time Pirate didn't tell you, and even though many others did, you ignored them and stuck your dick in a meatgrinder anyway. Don't get mad at Theymos or any of the PPT ops, because they told you where to find the meatgrinder.

Christ...

Read what he wrote. He admits to profiting from what he knew was a deceptively presented ponzi scheme. And he's rather proud of himself.

If you bother reading some of my posts, you'll see that I was one of several others who recognized pirate's scam and the pass-throughs for what they obviously were. By way of his knowledge and high-profile here, theymos is more responsible than most, aside from pirate himself and the more obvious shills and enablers.

+1

after reading what he posted I got the same exact feeling from it. but i never expected much from the admins here. this is bitcoin after
all.
sr. member
Activity: 252
Merit: 250
On the subject of complicity, I think this bears cross-posting:

Is this why you took part in pirate's ponzi scheme? Because you thought it would be fun? Did you "earn" any "interest" from it?

It was fun, and still is! I have several bets and other deals related to the final outcome, which I'm excited to see resolved (hopefully in my favor). Ponzi schemes are a much more fun way of gambling than Satoshi's Dice, that's for sure.

I did win some BTC, which is rightfully mine. Pirateat40 is guilty of lying about the rules of the game, but the players are innocent. If a casino rigs a game, you wouldn't blame those players who made a profit (even if they may have guessed that the game was rigged) -- you blame the casino.

I never promoted BS&T, and I posted several times that I thought it was a Ponzi.

You see, your honor, I am just the landlord of the crackhouse. Yes, I fully knew what went on there, but my property served only as a "platform."

If I was only worried about morality instead of legality, that's exactly what I'd say. Nothing wrong with a crackhouse as long as there's no violence. I don't advocate doing drugs (I personally don't consume alcohol, nicotine, caffeine, or illegal drugs), but if people want to buy potentially dangerous drugs, that's their business.

This argument is equivalent to whether I should:
- Ban crackhouses entirely on my property. As a proponent of freedom, I would prefer not to do this.
- Determine which crackhouses may add poisons to drugs and ban them or put signs in front of them. This takes extra work and expertise that I'm not willing to deal with.
- Categorize the crackhouses based on how close to market levels their prices are, which may indicate the safety of the drugs sold there.

Wink


There's a lot to answer for around here. It is especially true for some "respected" members.

I see no problem with anything Theymos said there.

Again, Ponzis have been run before on this forum, openly. People then knew what the hell they were getting into and they all ended the same way. You guys are just pissed off because this time Pirate didn't tell you, and even though many others did, you ignored them and stuck your dick in a meatgrinder anyway. Don't get mad at Theymos or any of the PPT ops, because they told you where to find the meatgrinder.

Christ...

Read what he wrote. He admits to profiting from what he knew was a deceptively presented ponzi scheme. And he's rather proud of himself.

If you bother reading some of my posts, you'll see that I was one of several others who recognized pirate's scam and the pass-throughs for what they obviously were. By way of his knowledge and high-profile here, theymos is more responsible than most, aside from pirate himself and the more obvious shills and enablers.
hero member
Activity: 532
Merit: 500
FIAT LIBERTAS RVAT CAELVM
On the subject of complicity, I think this bears cross-posting:

Is this why you took part in pirate's ponzi scheme? Because you thought it would be fun? Did you "earn" any "interest" from it?

It was fun, and still is! I have several bets and other deals related to the final outcome, which I'm excited to see resolved (hopefully in my favor). Ponzi schemes are a much more fun way of gambling than Satoshi's Dice, that's for sure.

I did win some BTC, which is rightfully mine. Pirateat40 is guilty of lying about the rules of the game, but the players are innocent. If a casino rigs a game, you wouldn't blame those players who made a profit (even if they may have guessed that the game was rigged) -- you blame the casino.

I never promoted BS&T, and I posted several times that I thought it was a Ponzi.

You see, your honor, I am just the landlord of the crackhouse. Yes, I fully knew what went on there, but my property served only as a "platform."

If I was only worried about morality instead of legality, that's exactly what I'd say. Nothing wrong with a crackhouse as long as there's no violence. I don't advocate doing drugs (I personally don't consume alcohol, nicotine, caffeine, or illegal drugs), but if people want to buy potentially dangerous drugs, that's their business.

This argument is equivalent to whether I should:
- Ban crackhouses entirely on my property. As a proponent of freedom, I would prefer not to do this.
- Determine which crackhouses may add poisons to drugs and ban them or put signs in front of them. This takes extra work and expertise that I'm not willing to deal with.
- Categorize the crackhouses based on how close to market levels their prices are, which may indicate the safety of the drugs sold there.

Wink


There's a lot to answer for around here. It is especially true for some "respected" members.

I see no problem with anything Theymos said there.

Again, Ponzis have been run before on this forum, openly. People then knew what the hell they were getting into and they all ended the same way. You guys are just pissed off because this time Pirate didn't tell you, and even though many others did, you ignored them and stuck your dick in a meatgrinder anyway. Don't get mad at Theymos or any of the PPT ops, because they told you where to find the meatgrinder.
full member
Activity: 169
Merit: 100
Green Mining 85% Cheaper
I knew any money I invested could get taken away at any point in time. I will say however, that what finally made me decide to do it was Hashking opening up that pass through. I was already depositing with hashking prior and figured hey why not.

Its my fault my coins are gone. But a couple highly trusted people opening it up and making it easier to invest certainly swayed my decision.
sr. member
Activity: 252
Merit: 250
On the subject of complicity, I think this bears cross-posting:

Is this why you took part in pirate's ponzi scheme? Because you thought it would be fun? Did you "earn" any "interest" from it?

It was fun, and still is! I have several bets and other deals related to the final outcome, which I'm excited to see resolved (hopefully in my favor). Ponzi schemes are a much more fun way of gambling than Satoshi's Dice, that's for sure.

I did win some BTC, which is rightfully mine. Pirateat40 is guilty of lying about the rules of the game, but the players are innocent. If a casino rigs a game, you wouldn't blame those players who made a profit (even if they may have guessed that the game was rigged) -- you blame the casino.

I never promoted BS&T, and I posted several times that I thought it was a Ponzi.

You see, your honor, I am just the landlord of the crackhouse. Yes, I fully knew what went on there, but my property served only as a "platform."

If I was only worried about morality instead of legality, that's exactly what I'd say. Nothing wrong with a crackhouse as long as there's no violence. I don't advocate doing drugs (I personally don't consume alcohol, nicotine, caffeine, or illegal drugs), but if people want to buy potentially dangerous drugs, that's their business.

This argument is equivalent to whether I should:
- Ban crackhouses entirely on my property. As a proponent of freedom, I would prefer not to do this.
- Determine which crackhouses may add poisons to drugs and ban them or put signs in front of them. This takes extra work and expertise that I'm not willing to deal with.
- Categorize the crackhouses based on how close to market levels their prices are, which may indicate the safety of the drugs sold there.

Wink


There's a lot to answer for around here. It is especially true for some "respected" members.
sr. member
Activity: 252
Merit: 250

Yeah in august when the shit hit the fan, you made a remarkably intelligent comment that Pirate's dress code proved a scam. Nothing about 7% per week though.

If I were you, Id stop trying to take credit for things you never said.

Hey lets ignore the early July posts and that because I barely post here about 80% of my post were made since then. Meanwhile you have admitted to both depositing and profiting off pirates scam. Why attack people that mostly agree with you over stupid shit?  I did read the link and the convo was completely about gpumax which is still running and still laundering coins. I'll admit the Silk Road stuff (which you agreed with at the time) was dumb of me. I later learned pirate wasn't nearly smart enough to have any thing to do with SR. If you knew the whole time pirate was a scam but still profited off it what does that make you?

BTW my  "remarkably intelligent remark" was exactly right. Because the way people dress is very telling of how much they make. Turns out I was right. Post a pic and I'll tell you your income. I'll do the same if it inspires confidence.
legendary
Activity: 2072
Merit: 1001
This is a good point... that is a major reason I invested.  PH, BurtW, etc.... all long time members gave me ease.

Which is why I think its so important there is at least some accountability for their fierce support for pirate. Its not revenge or to start a witch hunt or whatever, its to make sure everyone knows there are consequences to giving undue credibility. Labelling them as scammer would likely be considered too harsh by many, but if I where Theymos I would give them all a signature that says "Im either incredibly gullible or a crook. Dont ever take investment advice from me" or something along those lines.
I very much disagree with this, unless of course it can be proven they *knew* it was a fraud up front, besides you can't discriminate.

I think what needs to happen is some form of actual knowledge (not sure how to implement that) transfer rather than bantering back and forth.  Just facts, here is what happened etc.

So they profited from a scam by backing it and there not scammers  Huh

If those satoshi dice shares become worthless overnight is the middleman on gblse also a thief?

No because those shares are not on GLBSE are they and that exchange wouldn't promote and praise them as a good investments ever.  Plus GLBSE has lots of disclaimers about not getting involved unless you know what your doing.  These senior voices on the forum said they understood Pirates business and it was a sound investment.  GLBSE would never do that.  Senior forum voices who supported and praised Pirate and definitely those that did that to profit should go down with Pirate if he doesn't pay.  They all flew out to meet him and claimed they understood the secrete sauce and it was legit "So give me your money while I burn it to profit".

Middleman has them on gblse. Fyi.
hero member
Activity: 560
Merit: 500
I am the one who knocks
Tho people like HashKing I never saw him once promote it as a sound investment he just offered a PPT and made the risk obvious from his other deposits.
I never really remember payb.tc promoting it either... just here it is.  In fact he made it very clear that it was a risk on pirate and never (to my knowledge) promoted it.
legendary
Activity: 1554
Merit: 1222
brb keeping up with the Kardashians
Pirate didn't need to give them a cut.  The entire PPT system was the cut.  None of them passed through 100% of the interest from Pirate.  Take a PPT which paid out 4.85% on 40,000 shares.  Pirate pays 7% on 40K BTC the PPT pays out 4.85%.  The difference is 860 BTC per week.  They had a direct profit motive to bring in as many suckers as possible.

That 4.85% rate was after the weekly rate was cut to 5% for top tier.  Besides, BTCST folded before the first payment was ever made. When the top tier was 7% that PPT was paying 6.8%, so the difference was 80 BTC/wk.
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